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zxcire
11-02-2007, 02:11 PM
Still sounds like an embryo. You may have miscarried and not been producing enough pregnancy hormone to pass the test since it wasn't a viable pregnancy, and an embryo does not look anything like a baby. Here's a 4-week-old embryo:

http://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/on-line/lifecycle/images/1-2-3-1-5-0-0-0-0-0-0.jpg

No, no, not even close. I really don't think so. I have medical training, and I know what an embryo looks like. This was not. It was long and rectangular shaped. There was no texture, it was long and flat.

Zinaida
11-02-2007, 04:31 PM
My period comes whenever the hell it wants every 1-3 months and lasts 2-6 days, usually in the 3-4 day range. Once in a while I get a terrible nausea for at least a few hours but it's pretty rare. PMS sometimes, usually only expresses itself when I'm getting anxious about time/being in a hurry/stuck somewhere waiting... Once in a while I get sharp pains in my vagina, sometimes very intense, sometimes barely even noticeable. They don't always coincide with my period but I guess they're cramps.

Pamela
11-02-2007, 04:33 PM
Damn Eric enough is enough!


I have to delete almost all threads because you pissed off alot of people. Locked one you started, same topic...
Easier to lock....yet again, but i would like you to back out of this thread please so the ladies can keep talking.

This thread has gone against you Eric.

Pamela
11-02-2007, 04:53 PM
Mods..can this thread be cleaned up because it is seriously pissing me off.

Cleaning it up. Any other problems let me know.

the_dfb
11-02-2007, 09:05 PM
hey is major bloating normal? I know, i sound like a teenager, but keep in mind that I rarely get it, so it's like a new experience for me everytime I do.

like, it looks like I gained about 10-20 pounds in my hips.

Yekhefah
11-02-2007, 09:31 PM
Yeah, it happens. Drink more water and cut out salt and that should help. That includes canned food - it's salty as hell whether you taste it or not, so throw out your can opener for awhile and the bloating should get better.

My period is nowhere near as bad as the PMS that precedes it. I'm usually happy to start bleeding because then I know the worst is over. I actually enjoy the days I bleed, on a weird emotional womanly level... but the few days beforehand are murderous, and that's what I'm in the worst of now. I get depressed and puffy all over and I can't think about anything except what a fat miserable loser I am, and I get gut-wrenching cramps and headaches. And at some point right before my period, there's always the one night that I can't sleep no matter what so I'm awake all night, but the rest of my PMS time I am exhausted and can't wake up. And then of course there's the bursting into tears at every random thought... I think I might need a different pill.

flickad
11-02-2007, 11:55 PM
hey is major bloating normal? I know, i sound like a teenager, but keep in mind that I rarely get it, so it's like a new experience for me everytime I do.

like, it looks like I gained about 10-20 pounds in my hips.

Sure is. I tend to gain an inch or two in bloat in all the major places right before I menstruate. It all comes off when Lady Flo turns up.

flickad
11-03-2007, 12:03 AM
Yeah, it happens. Drink more water and cut out salt and that should help. That includes canned food - it's salty as hell whether you taste it or not, so throw out your can opener for awhile and the bloating should get better.

My period is nowhere near as bad as the PMS that precedes it. I'm usually happy to start bleeding because then I know the worst is over. I actually enjoy the days I bleed, on a weird emotional womanly level... but the few days beforehand are murderous, and that's what I'm in the worst of now. I get depressed and puffy all over and I can't think about anything except what a fat miserable loser I am, and I get gut-wrenching cramps and headaches. And at some point right before my period, there's always the one night that I can't sleep no matter what so I'm awake all night, but the rest of my PMS time I am exhausted and can't wake up. And then of course there's the bursting into tears at every random thought... I think I might need a different pill.

I also really love the bleeding experience. It's partly related to the fact that I had anorexia a couple of times and didn't menstruate for years. I wound up with osteopenia as a result. Now, when I get my period, it's a celebration in a way- it's monthly proof that I'm producing enough oestrogen to protect my bones and that my body is now in a state of good health. It's also always great to get the PMS over with- I enjoy the de-bloating experience and, yeah, there is also something primal and womanly about menstruating.

I also enjoy the fact that I bleed for a full seven days mostly, for all the above reasons.

mollyzmoon
11-03-2007, 08:00 AM
Ok guys, I have a question. I have PCOS, as I've mentioned many times, and thus I don't menstruate very often. I think it ends up being about three times a year or so. But to treat my hormone issues, I got put on BCP and spironolactone...so I get my 'period' every month.

But I've been told that birth control periods are not real periods, because you're not really ovulating. So what are they, exactly? This was never clear to me.

I don't really care about PCOS. I had this nurse the other day go on and on all shocked that I had it, since I "don't fit the profile"...by which she meant "oh, you're not obese". I don't really think about it until I start thinking about periods and stuff, and then I feel like a hermaphrodite or something. Why won't my lady bits just do their job? / end of pointless self-pitying rant

Yekhefah
11-03-2007, 09:10 AM
Of course you get a real period when you're on birth control. It doesn't have an ovum in it, but that's the only difference. You still have a normal menstrual cycle of building up uterine lining and then flushing it out; all the pill does is suppress the release of an ovum (and make your uterine lining a bit more slippery so it's harder for an ovum to implant if it does get released).

cameron_keys
11-03-2007, 11:46 AM
Cleaning it up. Any other problems let me know.

Thank you SO much!

smartcookie
11-03-2007, 12:59 PM
For the first two days, it's manageable. Then, on day three, it turns into geyser, Old Faithful-style bleeding. I literally gush blood and soak jumbo-size tampons in 30 minutes for twenty four hours. I sometimes think I'm going to bleed to death. Then, after that, about four more days of light bleeding and that's it.

The gynecologist says I have some sort of problem with the hormone that dilates the cervix, where it dilates suddenly instead of gradually. The only solution is birth control pills, but I can't take them because they make me a moody eunuch.

Eric Stoner
11-05-2007, 09:45 AM
I humbly apologize to any and all who were offended by anything I posted.

I have a little more to say in the related thread that I started.

Yekhefah
11-05-2007, 10:25 AM
Of course you do.

Eric Stoner
11-05-2007, 10:40 AM
I humbly apologize to any and all who were offended by anything I posted.

I have a little more to say in the related thread that I started.

I'm sorry. I thought Pamela re-opened both threads so I'll have to post here.

I repeat my apology to anyone offended by anything I posted.

I don't mind skeptics and certainly don't mind people disagreeing with me or anything I post. What I think is unfair is questioning MY MOTIVES ! ? ! ?

Apparently this was a more delicate area than I gave it credit for and it has been brought to my attention that some of what I posted was interpreted as some sort of "criticism" on my part ????? That I was somehow saying that some of you are "not having your periods CORRECTLY" ????

First of all, I never said any such thing. As I posted before I was always hesitant to post on this particular topic not because the skeptics bothered me or because
some of what I'm saying is contrary to conventional medical opinion but because
it invites questions about my motives and obviously I am male and don't menstruate.

Conventional doctors KNOW too much estrogen is not good.Their solution is to prescribe a drug to suppress estrogen production like Damazol or to perform unecessary surgery. Imho it's "unecessary" surgery when a New York study labeled almost 1/2 of hysterectomies "unecessary"; when British and Canadian doctors perform hysterectomies at 1/3 the rate of their American counterparts; when cancerous tissue is found in only 4% of hysterectomies and oophorectomies Yes.I would argue that a lot oif unecessary surgery is taking place.

And to whoever thought it was nice to drag MY MOTHER into this- she underwent
what proved to be an unecessary radical hysterectomy and oophorectomy because her gynecologist was ignorant in this area or was just in need of the surgical fee. That is ONE reason I familiarized myself with the science and the medicine.
Length of a menstrual period is an INDICATION of overproduction or inadequate
breakdown of estrogen by the liver. It's a SYMPTOM. There are studies going back to the 1930's and 1940's of the role of the liver in estrogen breakdown. More recently Carlton Fredericks PhD. followed by Dr. Robert Atkins , Dr Loretta
Lanphier and others worked out nutritional protocols to promote estrogen breakdown by promoting optimal liver function. It's in thier books. And also in
Dr. Penny Wise Budoff's book "No More Menstrual Cramps & Other Good News".

A number of you don't like that I've posted that the average menstrual period for
AMERICAN women is five days. That is the AVERAGE. If you total up the total number of days reported by the women surveyed and divide by how many responded that is the number they came up with at Harvard; UCLA and the like.
To me, it's like coming up with what's supposed to be an "optimal" "desirable" or "healthy" blood sugar reading by counting in diabetics and hypoglycemics instead of limiting the sample to healthy asymptomatic people and measuring their blood sugar. I have argued the same thing with regard to menstruation.
The AVERAGE of five days was arrived at by INCLUDING obese women; women with cystic breasts; uterine fibroids ; ovarian cysts and a host of other estrogen driven diseases and conditions. BUT when asymptomatic women without such reported conditions (and others like serious cramping and bloating) are surveyed
( i.e. limiting the sample to "healthy' women) the average drops to THREE days
which is in line with Japanese women; Sardinian women and women on Crete
ALL of whom have low incidences of breast cancer and other estrogen driven conditions. In the 1930's and 1940's various so-called "primitive" tribeswomen were studied and their average was TWO days. And their incidence of reproductive cancers and other estrogen driven disease was also very low.

Those who wish to read up for themselves are free to do so or they can join with
the 7 ladies who have PM'd me seeking further information. I'll be happy to pass along what I have. Before being attacked further ; would some of you at least read; actually READ what I've posted. If you disagree with the science or the medicine behind it then please share YOUR sources. To date, exactly one (1) person has bothered to do so. Instead it's all been about ME. My motives. My posts on unrelated topics.

zxcire
11-05-2007, 10:42 AM
Oh, Eric, WHY couldnt you have left it at JUST an apology? I don't want to see this thread get locked.

PLEASE, just go away from this thread. Just leave it alone!

Pamela
11-05-2007, 10:49 AM
Eric. C'mon you and i have been going through this almost all morning. I wont lock this thread on the ladies. Those you have who are interested will keep sending you pm's. I want to be fair here. ok?

Thanks.

Eric Stoner
11-05-2007, 11:07 AM
Eric. C'mon you and i have been going through this almost all morning. I wont lock this thread on the ladies. Those you have who are interested will keep sending you pm's. I want to be fair here. ok?

Thanks.

Fine.
Everyone have a great day.
Anyone interested just PM me.

Pamela
11-05-2007, 11:13 AM
That was kind of you Eric.

Thank you.