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Jenny
11-04-2007, 10:12 AM
I dont know what it is like in Canada but it isnt that hard to adopt here. And it is supply and demand. If people stop buying from pet stores, puppy mills will go out of business...THAT is the goal.
It can be hard to adopt - as in people don't just hand over a puppy in exchange for money. They scrutinize you, ask you questions, insist you have some awareness of how expensive it is to keep an animal, and usually want you to have similar ideas on animal parenting as they do (I was always reluctant to adopt cats out to people who were going to keep them as outdoor cats, for example).

cameron_keys
11-04-2007, 10:14 AM
It can be hard to adopt - as in people don't just hand over a puppy in exchange for money. They scrutinize you, ask you questions, insist you have some awareness of how expensive it is to keep an animal, and usually want you to have similar ideas on animal parenting as they do (I was always reluctant to adopt cats out to people who were going to keep them as outdoor cats, for example).

Well..thats true, but thats GOOD. Anyone who is afraid to go through that kind of questioning shouldnt have a pet IMO.

I dont see that as HARD though. I see that as nessessary and best for the animal. And as long as you are a good pet owner, you'll pass so no big deal unless you are in some huge hurry.

Jenny
11-04-2007, 10:23 AM
I agree - not arguing.

Although sometimes the requirements can be a little unreasonable. Like the Humane Society here used to refuse to adopt puppies to people who live in apartment on the rationale that you couldn't housebreak a puppy in an apartment. They refused to adopt pitbulls, staff or pitbull crosses to anyone with another pet or kids.

cameron_keys
11-04-2007, 10:28 AM
I agree - not arguing.

Although sometimes the requirements can be a little unreasonable. Like the Humane Society here used to refuse to adopt puppies to people who live in apartment on the rationale that you couldn't housebreak a puppy in an apartment. They refused to adopt pitbulls, staff or pitbull crosses to anyone with another pet or kids.

Yeah i've head of some that make unreasonable demands. But usually they arent the only game in town so just keep trying!! Same for rescues.

But as a last resort...a reputable breeder will like I said at least not be cruel. But you have to research your breeder VERY carefully. I'm not a fan of breeding while millions are being killed every day for overpopulation...BUT I am REALLY not a fan of backyard breeders. I've seen WAY too many horrors come from there.

Pamela
11-04-2007, 10:45 AM
What Cameron says around Florida is so true. The pups gets discounted, some will be bred out etc. They don't kill them, they will make some $$ on them. I as well used to work for a couple petstores way back and a zoo.

Anyway...I see the point of all the questions on adopting. Sure many dogs are not suited for apt. living. We MUST have a fenced in yard to adopt a large breed dog. If you say you don't have a fenced yard they will deny you a large dog!

Also they ask (Humane Society near me) many tough questions. One that is very very good is "who is your Vet"? Yep gott a have a Vet. If you're a first time owner they help you find one by way of a list near you. BUT, you must take the animal to the Vet. shortly....and they do follow up.

Mine is a kill shelter, if a dog returns chances are very high it gets put down. So this is a process of fitting the right animal with the right family. They even ask you to bring you children and go to the play area and a person watches how you all interact. It's tough yes. Should be.

I went the other day to give blankets...we have dogs in the halls now. Many on an Urgent List!

I adopted a snake years ago. I know my snakes, and they made me feel like i was an idiot. But for only 1 second. You must know what animal fits with your life.

Is tough indeed. Raising a pup is like raising a child, and taken seriously in Florida.

I'm sure many of you know this....just thought i would share.

Pamela
11-04-2007, 10:48 AM
Also to get involved with a fostor program...there are Poodle, and many others that need temp. homes. You then get first choice if you decide you want to adopt the animal! I like that. Many states need fostor parents for many animals, mainly cats & dogs.

whirlerz
11-04-2007, 10:51 AM
Dont buy from a pet store anyway. They are all horribly bred puppy mill dogs. Dont support the cruelty of the puppy mills OR the bitch(who prob gets commission)

Yes, my thoughts exactly. There's so many shelters, & if you want a specfic type/breed there are shelters that deal w/specifics. Good luck. Sorry about the bad experience, unfortuanately there are jerks everywhere, even where there should be customer service priorities.

BrunetteGoddess
11-04-2007, 01:34 PM
Pet Store puppies get a lot more time to live before euthanization than human society animals. A lot longer.

Dottie Rebel
11-04-2007, 02:33 PM
Pet Store puppies get a lot more time to live before euthanization than human society animals. A lot longer.

What they get is more time to languish in tiny cages in a stressful retail environment and develop sterotypic behaviors such as pacing, cage chewing and other signs of craziness.

BrunetteGoddess
11-04-2007, 02:49 PM
Ok...and? I still stand by my statement. Human Society/shelter animals live under just as much stress as pet shop animals, although they do not get so much time. If they aren't adopted in about 3 months (sometimes less, especially in the summer), they are euthanized. Their cages are just as tiny in many cases, and are just as susceptible to mania as pet shop animals.

I know from experience. Working for the HS is the single most sad thing I have ever witnessed.

Dottie Rebel
11-04-2007, 04:51 PM
Ok...and? I still stand by my statement. Human Society/shelter animals live under just as much stress as pet shop animals, although they do not get so much time. If they aren't adopted in about 3 months (sometimes less, especially in the summer), they are euthanized. Their cages are just as tiny in many cases, and are just as susceptible to mania as pet shop animals.

I know from experience. Working for the HS is the single most sad thing I have ever witnessed.

Yeah, I do too--I worked at the Indianapolis Humane Society as a kennel attendant (as a paid employee day in and day out--not as a volunteer.) We just have a different opinion, that's all.

BrunetteGoddess
11-04-2007, 04:51 PM
K :)

Oh, and I was also a kennel attendant too. Loved the animals, the atmosphere broke my heart :(

cherryripeboy
11-04-2007, 04:56 PM
Well the local pet store in Australia hated us.... I mean dam we did not even ask to hold or touch, and even bought stuff for our pets there.... gave us dirty looks every time we went in. I'm fairly certain at one point before we left I told them to get stuffed... if not I certainly meant to.

Hey I have a 2 year old (well now 4) that loves animals. They'd even give us dirty looks outside the shop.... grrrr

Lexi
11-04-2007, 05:21 PM
Umm all you girls say 'dont buy from a pet store'

You do know what a lot of these stores do to their dogs who are left there too long right?

In a way if you buy from a pet store you're saving the dog.

Also its fuckin hard to adopt a dog... like really really hard.

I've both adopted and bought from a pet store... my dog I got(well my Mom got) from the pet store was a pure bred poodle and lived 16 years almost...


I was going to say this. Cause I got my mini pin at a pet store a few years back, and thankfully *I* got her. I couldnt imagine someone else having her, or her staying in the pet store any longer.



Ok...and? I still stand by my statement. Human Society/shelter animals live under just as much stress as pet shop animals, although they do not get so much time. If they aren't adopted in about 3 months (sometimes less, especially in the summer), they are euthanized. Their cages are just as tiny in many cases, and are just as susceptible to mania as pet shop animals.



I know from experience. Working for the HS is the single most sad thing I have ever witnessed.

:( I went to the HS a few years ago and left hysterical crying. The smell of piss and shit, some of the animals had ciggarette burns, punched eyes... I just could not keep myself from throwing up. I was so sick to my stomach. Then they had the little signs "Please take me home". ANd the WORST part was when we got to the back/outside... there was a fucking incinerator.

Oh man... I just cant even think about it, or I will start crying. It kills me. :(

Dottie Rebel
11-04-2007, 06:11 PM
K :)

Oh, and I was also a kennel attendant too. Loved the animals, the atmosphere broke my heart :(

Yeah. It was NOT the most fun experience of my life. :'(

AlexxaHex
11-04-2007, 09:29 PM
:( I went to the HS a few years ago and left hysterical crying. The smell of piss and shit, some of the animals had ciggarette burns, punched eyes... I just could not keep myself from throwing up. I was so sick to my stomach. Then they had the little signs "Please take me home". ANd the WORST part was when we got to the back/outside... there was a fucking incinerator.

Oh man... I just cant even think about it, or I will start crying. It kills me. :(

Oh how fucking SAD!!!! I would last all of two seconds there.

Jenny
11-05-2007, 07:36 AM
Lexi, can I just say that is not really the best shelter? I mean animals that have suffered that kind of abuse shouldn't be in the general adoption population. They should be in foster case until they are adequately assessed and healthy. You can't just hand over an animal that has suffered that kind of abuse to anyone who walks off the street without knowing its termperament. And the smell - well, a bunch of dogs in a large room. It's going to smell. But on the upside, that doesn't really bother them as much as it bothers you.

Some dogs are simply unadoptable and have to be euthanized. It is sad but necessary. After abuse or just a great deal of negligence a dog can become unpredictable and it can't always be rehabilitated - for example, I had a foster dog and nobody (including us) could figure out what was triggering his violent outbursts, so we couldn't retrain him, and you can't adopt out a dog that might hurt someone (I mean "might" as in greater than the general probability that exists in the universe). Euthanizing unadoptable animals is not, in and of itself, indicative of cruelty.

BrunetteGoddess
11-05-2007, 01:34 PM
Oh how fucking SAD!!!! I would last all of two seconds there.

I only lasted 2 weeks.

badpixie
11-10-2007, 02:43 PM
Umm all you girls say 'dont buy from a pet store'

You do know what a lot of these stores do to their dogs who are left there too long right?

In a way if you buy from a pet store you're saving the dog.

Also its fuckin hard to adopt a dog... like really really hard.

Wrong. SO SO SO wrong.

If you went into the store and bought all the twinkies off the shelves, could you say "There! No more twinkies. I've saved a child from getting fat." No, the store will buy more twinkies.

It's all supply and demand. If you buy a puppy from a pet store, the pet store will order another (probably unhealthy) puppy from a mill to replace it. You will NOT be saving a pet, you will be condemning a pom or another dog in a shelter to death.

And even if it were true that unwanted puppies at stores were euthanized, WHY ON EARTH would you give your money to such a business?

Pets are products like any other in a pet store. Why do you think every mall has one?

And you don't have to go to the humane society to adopt. There's petfinder:
http://search.petfinder.com/search/search.cgi?pet.Animal=&pet.Breed=pomeranian&pet.Age=&pet.Size=&pet.Sex=&location=scottsdale%2C+az

And rescues in your area: http://www.azanimalassistance.com/id17.html