View Full Version : If Blue had a "Men Only" section...
Jenny
11-21-2007, 06:52 PM
I noticed that Kat has nearly 12000 posts - she must be a real posting whore...Dude - I would appreciate it if you would stop objectifying her... I mean you're getting your patriarchy all over her.
Sorry. I couldn't help it.
xdamage
11-21-2007, 07:07 PM
For example, lets assume I posted this:
I noticed that Kat has nearly 12000 posts - she must be a real posting whore...
;D
Wow, you really couldn't come up with a worse example of sexual stereotyping. You are not impressing me here with this. It doesn't show a great deal of insight into what sexism is, or even stereotyping, like none at all. In fact, this is truly about the worst example possible.
Dude! Have you like, seen Jenny?! Seriously, did you get any pictures? PM me with a description if you don't want to share with the board. C'mon, help a brother out. You know what it's like to be obsessed with a Canadian stripper...
;D
Christ and AND off the cross, X! Relax already. Here, have some turkey and a glass of wine. All that tryptophan is good for the nerves!
;D
Please, leave me out of the mutual self-stroking society you two have created.
I think Yoda could use another bone, like a couple of days ago when he wrote "Well, I don't know about the rest of you guys but my day is going just great!"
Neither of you addressed the points of interest, and so this is just self-reinforced BS. Enjoy it but do it between the two of you.
p.s. Yoda, if you forgot all of Cally/GenWar's posts having met Jenny, then I'm sorry your memory is failing. Also most people, of average intelligence, reasonably assume that most dancers are reasonably attractive. This is called logic. It is not necessarily what will get you fed another doggy bone for being a good boy, but it's kind of a cool thing once you get use to it.
Lapaholic
11-21-2007, 07:18 PM
Wow, you really couldn't come up with a worse example of sexual stereotyping. You are not impressing me here with this. It doesn't show a great deal of insight into what sexism is, or even stereotyping, like none at all. In fact, this is truly about the worst example possible.
So ... its an example, overly simple or stupid - sure but its still an example.... Jeeez... Just respond to my questions? It was to illustrate my point which u r ignoring.
Most Swers are average at best. The top tier stripper hotties don't spend time on forums like this. Personality wise, SWers are better than average, I will say that. My favorite female personality of all-time is a SWer, and I think maybe the #3.
The average female stripperwebber is a girl who was the fat chick in HS, slimmed down due to being poor in college(forced to eat ramen), retained her good fat-girl personality, became a stripper because of the above mentioned poverty, realized that now she is a "hottie", revels in the newfound sexual power, goes to normal clubs and realizes she's just a 7 in general population, is a big computer nerd, etc.
I should charge for my psycho-analysis.
So basically stripperwebbers are average looking girls who know how to use makeup very well and have the personalities of fat-chicks(humor, computing, sisterly, but socially ackward).
Strippers in generally aren't really all that hot. Real super hotties don't need to strip, guys offer to buy them shit in the street. Each club has maybe ONE dime among them, until she realizes she can make more money as a sugarbaby.
Jenny
11-21-2007, 07:45 PM
There you go - Sh0t backs me up. The only place I have any currency is in a stripclub.
xdamage
11-21-2007, 07:47 PM
So ... its an example, overly simple or stupid - sure but its still an example.... Jeeez... Just respond to my questions? It was to illustrate my point which u r ignoring.
An example would be:
If I went over to the pink side and wrote, in response to a post with, (said emotionally of course), why don't you women all go back to your knitting, talking about your fucking kids, and your book clubs.
(analogous to suggesting men only sports, scratch oneself like a monkey, and plot the future patriarch).
Or other examples:
"I really don't care what you think, frankly you are just a dancer"
(analogous to you are only a customer)
"You're just a dancer/woman"
(analogous to you are only a customer/man)
"You girls are so irrational"
(analogous to variations of you (fill in man stereotype))
"You are not going to convince me that dancers or women are intelligent"
(a duh)
"You work at a stripclub because you can't hold down a real job"
(analogous to you go to a SC because you can't get a woman)
An avatar or siggy that includes (out of a billion possible concepts) something sure to be offensive to the opposite sex.
The list goes on and on.
It's not one thing. Sexists/Racists reveal themselves by a pattern of on-going behavior. Any one joke is funny. A few maybe. When it is part of an going pattern, at some point ... you get called on it.
And actually nobody would care so much, except James flips out when the analogous versions occur.
Of interest, there was a recent post in the lounge comparing the behaviors of girls to women. You know, like girls control their man's behavior, women don't have time. Girls need constant assurance, women are self-assured. Some points of wisdom. Most people got it and enjoyed it. James of course found it to be offensive because it "stereotyped" women in a negative light. So apparently James knows what stereotyping is. What makes it offensive then is James cannot claim ignorance.
Should you care? Up to you. Like I said, we ALL contribute to society, in our own small ways, including through our action and inaction, society changes, and new social problems grow or improve due to the sum behavior of all individuals. Me, I'd say you should care. In part because you should be proud to be male. In part because it will make you a better man when you realize there are much worse things in life then rocking the boat. Like much worse is to be apathetic or apologetic to no matter how bad the behavior is. It doesn't help you, and it really doesn't help the other party.
yoda57us
11-21-2007, 08:30 PM
Please, leave me out of the mutual self-stroking society you two have created.
X, I can't help it if it bugs the shit out of you that I have met and become friendly with another SW member who happens to be female and a retired dancer...BTW, she was retired when I met her as well so there has never been a point where my sucking up was gonna get me any extra mileage or fuel whatever other paranoid conspiracy theory you think may be going on here. Whatever you may think we are not plotting to overthrow SCJ, we are just having a little fun. Believe it or not I come here to be entertained!
That being said, My post quoted you and had absolutely no reference to Kat. Paranoid much?
I think Yoda could use another bone, like a couple of days ago when he wrote "Well, I don't know about the rest of you guys but my day is going just great!"
This has absolutely no bearing what so ever on the topic at hand...I realize it does have everything to do with your own personal continuing agenda here but it has nothing to do with anything else we are talking about...
Neither of you addressed the points of interest, and so this is just self-reinforced BS. Enjoy it but do it between the two of you.
Sorry X, it's still OUR SCJ board and not YOURS. You didn't even start the freekin' thread so don't try to tell me when I can post and when I can't.
If you are appointing yourself the official SCJ traffic cop and citing us for going off topic you are years too late. Chill out with the self-righteous "off topic" crap. It goes on all over here and you are just a guilty as the rest of us. I'm sure it has never occurred to you but every time you interrupt a thread to babel about your perceived mindset of another poster you are going off topic.
p.s. Yoda, if you forgot all of Cally/GenWar's posts having met Jenny, then I'm sorry your memory is failing. Also most people, of average intelligence, reasonably assume that most dancers are reasonably attractive. This is called logic. It is not necessarily what will get you fed another doggy bone for being a good boy, but it's kind of a cool thing once you get use to it.
I never saw the thread or at least not the posts, if it was a TR I almost never read them.
I know you are desperate at this point to find anything at all to try and bust my chops with but insinuating that my memory is failing is a bit weak don't you think?
Now, I mean this in no way as any sort of hunch about what our Jenny may look like but, if you spent a couple of hours in the clubs that I frequent, I can promise that even you would find a number of dancers who were not even reasonably attractive much less "hot".
Pssst! I knew you never actually met Jenny when you said she was hot...Come on X, you can't handle a little ball busting? You seem to be so good at handing it out.
Lapaholic
11-21-2007, 09:34 PM
#1
By Jenny->Well, it seems clear to me upon reading this thread that all ya'all definitely need a men's only forum to discuss me in private. Seriously - doesn't that seem really weird to anyone else? Can't you talk about sports, or scratching yourselves or your efforts to maintain the patriarchy? I mean, I'm not all that interesting.
#2
by xdamage->
If I went over to the pink side and wrote, in response to a post with, (said emotionally of course), why don't you women all go back to your knitting, talking about your fucking kids, and your book clubs.
Jenny's post is not emotional - its sarcastic!!. SHe said "all ya'all", not a very emotional phrase ( what the hell is "all ya'all"? )
Post # 2 is kinda mean - the "talking about your fucking kids" part in is no way on par with "scratching yourselves"...
Oh well ....U must be right and I must be wrong which is fine.
I dont know about all ya'all but this horse is dead...
doc-catfish
11-21-2007, 09:45 PM
Damn guys. I don't know how this all started, but if I didn't know better I'd swear the screen was pink and a couple of the gals upstairs were having a good ol' fashioned SW cat fight.
So who amongst you is in the "less filling" camp? :cutie: :beer: :flirt:
lestat1
11-21-2007, 10:23 PM
Doc, I like Amstel Light. Plenty of flavor (for a lager, anyway), and at 90 Calories, one of the lowest-Calorie beers around. Not really "light" beer. Saying "Amstel Light" is like saying "Guiness Light." :P :beer2:
Bob_Loblaw
11-21-2007, 11:54 PM
Dude! Have you like, seen Jenny?! Seriously, did you get any pictures? PM me with a description if you don't want to share with the board. C'mon, help a brother out. You know what it's like to be obsessed with a Canadian stripper...
I am more than due to make a trek out to T.O. If I happen to come across any stripper carrying a cow purse, I'll let ya know.
xdamage
11-22-2007, 12:25 AM
X, I can't help it if it bugs the shit out of you that I have met and become friendly with another SW member who happens to be female and a retired dancer...
Now, I mean this in no way as any sort of hunch about what our Jenny may look like but, if you spent a couple of hours in the clubs that I frequent, I can promise that even you would find a number of dancers who were not even reasonably attractive much less "hot".
No body cares. Nothing you wrote is new. It's just more self ego stroking about how you are friends with an (ex)-dancer. You've told us this. We know.
It still doesn't change my argument that men (not just you, but men in general) will tend to cut hot women slack they don't cut others. Nor it does it change my argument that when you've be-friended someone that it puts you in a position of having to choose between the friendship, and opinions that may go against a friends beliefs.
The topic I was writing about was sexism against males, and (misplaced) male tolerance of it as discussed in a Wiki article. And the frequency of sexism against males here in post after post after post.
The topic was not about is someone in particular hot. It was not about the hotness of the dancers you are paying for at your club.
As far as I can tell you really didn't understand much of it, and have again turned this into an opportunity to show that you are dancer friendly. And I've read you're "I am a tolerant guy" speech before. Yes, everyone is entitled to their opinion, so don't lose it when you throw stones, and they get thrown back.
Jenny's post is not emotional - its sarcastic!!. SHe said "all ya'all", not a very emotional phrase ( what the hell is "all ya'all"? )
Post # 2 is kinda mean - the "talking about your fucking kids" part in is no way on par with "scratching yourselves"...
Take the word "fucking" out it then; same thing. If that's all your brain locked on to then you really missed the point. I just used that because many of the women over on pink use similar phrases in regards to women talking about their kids. It's a stereotype women often apply to other women. (yes many women loathe other women talking about their kids).
However, if the word's ya'all really can mask over three insulting stereotypes in your mind, then I mean what can I tell you. A dancer can also smile pretty while behind the smile think you are complete and utter slime. It is what they practice doing every day. But hey, it's up to you how far you want to look past that to see the true loathing behind it.
Anyway, James being James will insult us frequently in the future because James is not capable of doing otherwise. If you find that charming, more power to James.
yoda57us
11-22-2007, 05:22 AM
No body cares. Nothing you wrote is new. It's just more self ego stroking about how you are friends with an (ex)-dancer. You've told us this. We know.
X, you are the one who keeps bringing it up. I am not trying to impress anyone, no, not even myself, I'm merely engaging in on-line conversation. It's what we do here. The fact is I know about a dozen current and ex strippers quite well. I know this flies in the face of your adversarial approach to strippers but I make no apologies for my friendships with dancers or the fact that I sometimes discuss them here-a site about strippers and strip clubs.
I'm not really sure why you have such a hair across your ass about something that really does not effect you in any way. Does it bug you that much that some of us, OK, most of us, are actually having some fun here?
As for saying "nothing new". Well, sorry but, as long as you keep posting all of the same old tired BS I will keep responding to it.
Are any of those friendships based on you spending large amounts of money on them? I hope not.
Also, anything short of sex isn't worth mentioning, IMO. There is certainly nothing brag-worthy in being FRIENDS with WOMEN(of any job).
I recommend men treat all women like fat chicks. I had that in my yahoo personal's profile headline and it got me a lot of interesting messages.
yoda57us
11-22-2007, 08:48 AM
Are any of those friendships based on you spending large amounts of money on them? I hope not.
Don't worry Shot, I'm all grown up, I know the difference between being "friendly" ITC or OTC for money and actually being friends with someone.
Also, anything short of sex isn't worth mentioning, IMO. There is certainly nothing brag-worthy in being FRIENDS with WOMEN(of any job).
Well, we are all entitled to our own definition of what we find worth mentioning here or not but again, this is a chat board. We chat. If someone isn't interested in what I have to say it seems like a relatively simple solution would be just not to respond to it. If they do, either in a positive or negative way, I assume the post was of some interest.
I recommend men treat all women like fat chicks. I had that in my yahoo personal's profile headline and it got me a lot of interesting messages.
I'm sure it did...I treat em' all like strippers...
You pay them 20 bucks to lightly rub against you? You tip them when they unhook their bras?
And I am chatting with you. I'm not saying don't post it, I'm using the idiom as it is always used.
yoda57us
11-22-2007, 09:04 AM
You pay them 20 bucks to lightly rub against you? You tip them when they unhook their bras?
OK, you got me on that one. I don't know if you really treat all women like fat chicks or if you just said it...in my case, I just said it...
And I am chatting with you. I'm not saying don't post it, I'm using the idiom as it is always used.
Exactly!
I wasn't joking at all. I treat all women like fat chicks. If I wouldn't do it for a fat chick, I don't do it for a hot one.
Hot chicks appreciate it because it means I am not objectifying them. In my opinion, giving hot chicks preferential treatment is objectifying them, and they often enjoy it because it degrades them
Jenny
11-22-2007, 09:15 AM
Well I also treat hot chicks like fat chicks - I think the question is how do you treat fat chicks.
yoda57us
11-22-2007, 09:21 AM
I wasn't joking at all. I treat all women like fat chicks. If I wouldn't do it for a fat chick, I don't do it for a hot one.
Hot chicks appreciate it because it means I am not objectifying them. In my opinion, giving hot chicks preferential treatment is objectifying them, and they often enjoy it because it degrades them
Um...What? How about if you just treat them all, fat, thin or otherwise with simple common courtesy and respect.
Whatever works for you I guess...
doc-catfish
11-22-2007, 09:22 AM
Well I also treat hot chicks like fat chicks - I think the question is how do you treat fat chicks.
You know, theoretically speaking, he could be banging fat chicks.
:D
JZ: in the context of "bragging" about women, being friends with them is really no-big-deal. If you read his posts at X, he was, to my eyes, "rubbing x's face in it", so to speak.
Yoda: I treat everybody with basic courtesey, that's so basic it doesn't even need to be mentioned. However, we all know that men treat women, and especially hot women, quite differently above the basics. Are you petending to be ignorant now?
I bang a fat chick every now and then, but I'm referring to the ideas of supplicating, etc towards hotter women.
yoda57us
11-22-2007, 11:02 AM
JZ: in the context of "bragging" about women, being friends with them is really no-big-deal. If you read his posts at X, he was, to my eyes, "rubbing x's face in it", so to speak.
Well, you can see it that way if that's the way you choose see it but again, X is the one continually bringing up the topic, not me. If he wants to jump on Kat or myself every time we post something that's his business but I will, as you say, use the board for what it is intended for.
Yoda: I treat everybody with basic courtesey, that's so basic it doesn't even need to be mentioned. However, we all know that men treat women, and especially hot women, quite differently above the basics. Are you petending to be ignorant now?
Not pretending to be ignorant at all Shot. I just don't need to attach any sort of "fat chick rule" imagery to every woman I run into in order to treat her well. I read posts here, not minds. If you hadn't posted about treating all women like fat chicks I wouldn't have posted about treating all women courteously just because one should. If you are going to make assumptions about how "men" treat women you are going to be wrong quite a bit of the time. You can't know how I treat a woman based on your experiences any more than I would assume to know how you do based on mine.
Since some folks here seem so utterly puzzled if not down right pissed-off that I have women friends (some of whom are current or ex strippers) and the nerve to talk about it here I'm going to go out on a limb and say that we DON'T all treat women the same way.
Lapaholic
11-22-2007, 11:14 AM
I try to treat fat people esp nice ( and I think I am one ) because there is a natural bias in our society against them ( Oh god!!! Im sounding like x!!!) But its true - u can google it...
Well Yoda, personally I think its great u have women friends including Kat and nobody should make u feel ashamed of it .. I also agree that posting here should be fun - even if we debate and disagree - we should be able to disagree and still be friendly.
Jenny
11-22-2007, 11:23 AM
JZ: in the context of "bragging" about women, being friends with them is really no-big-deal. If you read his posts at X, he was, to my eyes, "rubbing x's face in it", so to speak.
Well... technically... just technically mind you - the entire issue was engendered because two posts - one of Yoda's and one of Katrine's - were, without making any reference to each other, taking the piss out of the same member. I don't think that can be reasonably read as "rubbing someone's face" in something. I'm sure on a non-technical level there are many things to be unpacked - secret codes between Yoda and Katrine that only they, you and X are privy to.
Yoda: I treat everybody with basic courtesey, that's so basic it doesn't even need to be mentioned. However, we all know that men treat women, and especially hot women, quite differently above the basics. Are you petending to be ignorant now?
I'm kind of interested then, because I think you are pretending to be ignorant. Why wouldn't you construct the phrase as "I treat fat chicks like hot chicks" (and are we all assuming that fat chicks can't be hot? I'm not sure I'm on board with that) or as "I treat fat chicks and hot chicks the same" or "I treat all chicks the same"? See I assumed - and I think every one else did too - that you were constructing a hierarchy, and that fat chicks were at the bottom and you were subsequently shoving all women down there with them. So I didn't actually assume that basic courtesy was part of it - I assumed that if you were going to be NICE to all women that you wouldn't be dividing into camps like that in the first place.
Dude nobody cares you have female friends. You are acting like Jenny now, faking like you have some "opposition" here. We all have female friends, I would wager. I'm friends with dancers fro here, too. Nobody is attacking you for that.
And I said I was using the IDIOM normally, not the board. The idiom was "not worth mentioning."
You are also missing the point on the fat girl thing. The idea isn't to avoid or to encourage treating them decently, as people. The idea is to not start supplicating to the woman because she placed well in the genetic lottery.
Jenny:the phrase is constructed that way to be digested properly by the men who read it. I tell guys "treat hot chicks like fat chicks". They know how they treat fat chicks. My belief is, if they treat the hot chicks the same way, they will have more success with them.
Just google "no fat chicks" and you get all sorts of humor sites and t-shirt vendors; symbols that represent how men view fat chicks. On the flip side of things, the same guy who wears a "No Fat Chicks" t-shirt would offer a complete stranger a 100 dollar dinner because she is good looking.
yoda57us
11-22-2007, 11:44 AM
Well Yoda, personally I think its great u have women friends including Kat and nobody should make u feel ashamed of it .. I also agree that posting here should be fun - even if we debate and disagree - we should be able to disagree and still be friendly.
LOL, that's the funny part L, no one is trying to make me feel ashamed of it (unless of course they are just being so obtuse that I haven't figured that out yet). They appear to be just plain pissed-off about it...
Disagreement is what drives these boards. Disagreement and debate are fun. No two people see things exactly the same way and that is what makes all of these boards interesting. It becomes tedious when people start trying to turn the focus away from the topics and concentrate instead on trying to analyze other posters (read:total strangers) based solely on what they are reading here.
There are some folks here who, through years of postings and PM's, I think I have a pretty good handle on and actually like. Most of the time though I'm just responding to words on a computer screen. If some folks think they can save the world here, or save us from ourselves, that's their business. To me it's all just savage amusement that shouldn't be taken all that seriously.
yoda57us
11-22-2007, 11:47 AM
You are also missing the point on the fat girl thing. The idea isn't to avoid or to encourage treating them decently, as people. The idea is to not start supplicating to the woman because she placed well in the genetic lottery.
Shot, I'm not missing any point, I just don't buy into your logic. There is a difference.
No. Your post was countering something I didn't mean. That implies missing the point, not disagreeing.
Jenny
11-22-2007, 11:59 AM
Just google "no fat chicks" and you get all sorts of humor sites and t-shirt vendors; symbols that represent how men view fat chicks. On the flip side of things, the same guy who wears a "No Fat Chicks" t-shirt would offer a complete stranger a 100 dollar dinner because she is good looking.
Do you think that maliciously insulting people on T shirts is courteous and polite? Yes, I understood what you were saying, and I think everyone digested it in exactly the way it was intended - not everyone agrees that is the baseline for courteous and polite treatment of women. So, I'm thinking the misunderstanding is yours.
yoda57us
11-22-2007, 12:00 PM
No. Your post was countering something I didn't mean. That implies missing the point, not disagreeing.
Again I read posts, not minds. I interpreted your words the way I interpreted them based on the actual words that I saw on my screen, not in your head.
This all started because you didn't actually post something that you assumed I would assume you believed in.
If I was wrong well then, I guess you told me....
Katrine
11-22-2007, 06:07 PM
Because Warren would prolly so "no" - u r exposing a stereotype of women as whores - so dont say it at all, but I mean really - she has 12000 posts, an obvious posting whore ;D
Now I'm curled up in a little ball, crying.:'( Because of you. Yes, I'm a whore, a dirty, dirty whore. Please don't spank me, I promise I'll be good next time Lappie....:bullwhip:
Katrine
11-22-2007, 06:19 PM
I took yoda for a grand sum of......3 drinks? However, they were martinis, at a very nice place. In SC equivalency, he got a lapdance and tipped a bit over. But I've been friends with him before and since in hopes that one day I'll get another martini out of him.
Oh, and I car. I need a car. But only if the title is in my name because all men are stalkers.
Oh, and my utility bill is really high this month. Ya know, harsh central Texas winters. I didn't save my pennies and now they done gona shut off my heat! Its 46 degrees, I might die!!!!!
;)
What were we talking about?
rockie
11-22-2007, 06:23 PM
If Blue had a "Men only" section ... I'm hoping we could do better than this thread, but I'm beginning to believe we can't.
rockie
11-22-2007, 06:34 PM
Kat: Based on prior posts, your recent picture post, and the Yoda legend; it's become increasingly troubling to me that he recently found a 2 hour round trip to be insurmountable. Damn, what's up with our Boston Boy?
If Blue had a "Men only" section ... I'm hoping we could do better than this thread, but I'm beginning to believe we can't.
Our threads get derailed because of Jenny, so they can't get too good.
Katrine
11-22-2007, 07:31 PM
Kat: Based on prior posts, your recent picture post, and the Yoda legend; it's become increasingly troubling to me that he recently found a 2 hour round trip to be insurmountable. Damn, what's up with our Boston Boy?
Which recent picture? I don't post photos of myself here, unless its of body parts.
rockie
11-22-2007, 07:40 PM
Sorry, I thought a recent picture in a November show and tell exchange between you and yoda was a picture of the infamous Katrine. My Bad!
rockie
11-22-2007, 07:43 PM
Shot: This thread has only the men of blue to blame for its derailment.
lestat1
11-22-2007, 10:38 PM
//Satire Alert
Formula for debate around here:
[1] Take the worst possible interpretation of a post, that is, the interpretation that will cast the poster in the most negative light.
[2] Assume the worst possible intent and character of the poster as explanation for [1].
[3] Avoid any attempt to understand their point of view, or way of thinking. It's obviously wrong, given [1] and [2].
[4] Push one's own point of view, to "win" the debate. The merits of one's own point of view don't matter, the other poster is bad, therefore wrong, therefore "you" are correct.
[5] For added measure, sling as many subtle verbal barbs as possible. One can't "win" a debate unless they've insulted the other poster. Well one could, but what would be the point? One must make sure the barbs are subtle though, so they can deny it if called out.
//End Satire Alert
xdamage
11-22-2007, 11:08 PM
For all of the thousands of words, Sh0t's key point is very very very simple.
He is simply saying, men tend (not always, it is a trend in behavior that you find when taking a lot of samples) to treat attractive women with preference.
Now some will debate this, and I think if they do so they have a mental blind spot, and the preference is at least clear if not far more so then preferences given to people based on race, or sex, but putting that aside, and all he is saying is that men are much better off when they treat attractive women just as the same as they would treat a women they find unattractive.
Not only are the men better off for themselves, but I would add, I think women are better off as well, because men tend to basically bullshit attractive women. Not only do they tend (there is that word again) to tell them BS, but they also tend to be far less likely to disagree or speak up when attractive women believe BS or outright behave badly. Women are therefore reinforced for behavior that a man would not put up with from an unattractive woman, and the reality is, all women ultimately will grow old and age/youth fades leaving behind a personality that others may not really like at all.
p.s., And I would add, a lot of attractive women also don't want to hear that men do this for the same reasons people don't always want to hear that they have an advantage in society due to their sex or race. Because the implication is that they can't completely take credit for their "accomplishments" and if they have an advantage, there is an implication that their failures are also somewhat more their fault because they failed in spite of their advantages.
p.s.s. I am just wondering who (although I can already guess her name) will try to derail my comments with the complete and utter BS of but who decides what is attractive? Please save it for the academics who live in la-la land.
xdamage
11-22-2007, 11:24 PM
They appear to be just plain pissed-off about it...
Nobody is, and nobody cares. We all have female friends, and nobody cares about that either.
The "pissed-off" part is simply because some of your responses seem to be self-serving with intent to impress the women. But you obviously don't see the behavior, but as I said I do. One of us is wrong, but anyway...
Not specific to you Yoda, but just in general, I see it on more often then not. Men treat all women "nice" (again, this not really something to brag about because it's just normal behavior for both), but the fact is their behavior changes around hot/younger women. They are far more tolerant. They are far more interested in what a hot woman says, even if it's really no different then what any other woman says. They are far more willing to offer unusual help (e.g,, free tutoring, loan money, give them rides home, be there for them, and the list goes on). They are far more likely to defend them in a disagreement. As with all such things, there are exceptions, but those are the common trends. And those trends are not mutually exclusive with being "nice" to all women, but still men are often MUCH nicer to some.
yoda57us
11-23-2007, 08:57 AM
Nobody is, and nobody cares. We all have female friends, and nobody cares about that either.
So I can assume that you will stop commenting on any future exchanges, relevant or not, between (either purposefully or coincidently) Kat and myself?
'Cause, after all, nobody cares....
The "pissed-off" part is simply because some of your responses seem to be self-serving with intent to impress the women. But you obviously don't see the behavior, but as I said I do. One of us is wrong, but anyway...
Well, there you have it! The key words would be "seem to be". I can't help how you perceive my posts here X. Now, I may not agree with much of what you say but I don't question your sincerity in saying it. I talk about what goes on in my life as it relates to strip clubs. There is nothing self-serving about it, it's just me relating my experiences. If something about that bugs you well, what can I say? It is what it is. I'm not going to stop talking about what I like to talk about, agreeing with female posters most of the time and sucking up to Kat whenever I get the chance. Why? Because it's fun!
I'm not here trying to save men from strippers or to change the world. I'm just here to have a good time. Sometimes that involves semi-serious discussion and sometimes it involves just goofing around.
yoda57us
11-23-2007, 09:09 AM
If Blue had a "Men only" section ... I'm hoping we could do better than this thread, but I'm beginning to believe we can't.
It's not that we can't. We simply won't and don't really need to...
Kat: Based on prior posts, your recent picture post, and the Yoda legend; it's become increasingly troubling to me that he recently found a 2 hour round trip to be insurmountable. Damn, what's up with our Boston Boy?
Dude, Legend? That's it, you're doin' my PR from now on! But seriously, first off, Kat is way hotter than the woman in that picture. Secondly, trust me, if my work schedule would have allowed, I would have found a way to Austin since, after all, Kat needs another martini....;)
funny, you should mention that. at this very moment, i'm composing of list of posters who will drive a car over the proverbial cliff. i haven't quite figured out the rest of the passenger list, but i do know you'll be in the driver's seat. happy turkey day, everyone.
Actually your year end lists are pretty humorous :) I believe you missed last year so lay it on us!
FBR
I dunno FBR, I was watching "8mm" last night and it appears that some folks like a sharp stick in the eye...
Have fun on Saturday! WooHoo!
Thanks, I will :P I'm already having visuals of her lubed up body parts }:D
Her job offers so far are not that close so things may be winding down. But we shall see.
FBR
yoda57us
11-23-2007, 05:58 PM
Thanks, I will :P I'm already having visuals of her lubed up body parts }:D
Her job offers so far are not that close so things may be winding down. But we shall see.
FBR
I'll keep my fingers crossed for you FBR. I know what it's like when all the stars align and you find a good situation with a good lady. But just remember, when one door closes, another one opens...
Wow, did I really say that??? Must be a tryptophan high...
rockie
11-23-2007, 06:01 PM
Yoda: Kudos to Kat, because the pictures pretty hot!
Katrine
11-23-2007, 08:15 PM
Yoda: Kudos to Kat, because the pictures pretty hot!
Again, that isn't me. I googled "hot Ukrainian girl" and copied the first pic I really liked. Actually, I look like my avatar. Exactly like that. I am actually a cartoon.
yoda57us
11-23-2007, 08:24 PM
Again, that isn't me. I googled "hot Ukrainian girl" and copied the first pic I really liked. Actually, I look like my avatar. Exactly like that. I am actually a cartoon.
It's so true! If you put a tailored black suit and lime green blouse on that avatar photo it would be just as I remember you...kinda spooky huh....:O