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erotictonic
11-11-2007, 10:19 PM
Ahh, I can hang out with boring and talk about the sale at Bebe. And I can hang out with non-boring and talk about religion or politics. But I wouldn't want to do all of either. In other words, I like variety.

Yes, I am a participater. I have been in relationships where I wasn't, and I was bored to tears. No, I wasn't living much, and I think one can't assume all of those girls are happy there, that they know what they want, or know how to change their situations.

I like doing frivolous things, and I like doing more complicated things. Some of my more frivolous play-time friends don't ever see the more serious me. I guess what I am saying is, don't assume that what you see of a person is all there is. It's easy to judge just what you see. I do it sometimes.

Madcap
11-11-2007, 10:23 PM
Vagina = Exciting.

ArmySGT.
11-11-2007, 10:25 PM
While I agree that there is a large proportion of women who look to men for validation, there is an equally large proportion of men who crave this asskissing validation for a sense of security. They are equally spineless, and equally boring.

I believe those are called "Soulmates".

I get just as bored with a group of guys that want to talk Sports. Bores me to tears. I don't understand the idolization of Athletes and Movie Stars. I just don't.

No I don't think my passion for SciFi appeals to all. My choices in music isn't mainstream. With hobbies like firearms, camping, and DIY projects I have to fall back on Politics (which is bad in social settings) and travel (which is good). Personally I end up drifting from group to group trying to encourage others to talk.

Madcap
11-11-2007, 10:36 PM
I believe those are called "Soulmates".

No such thing.

Poets and songwriters love that shit, but it ain't real.

Bridgette
11-11-2007, 10:43 PM
I think, most of the time, if you find people boring it's because YOU are boring or just not interested in the same things.


I am so not boring! LOL ;D I can enjoy myself with most groups unless they are into something I am totally turned off by.

The women in bars and clubs thing: depends, I say. In regular bars I find most female groups incredibly boring and invariably wander off to find someone(s) else to have fun with. In dance clubs I think most women are not boring - they're there to dance and party, and are often more fun than the guys. Most guys can't dance and so are un-fun in dance clubs. In fact I always prefer to hang with a bunch of chics at a dance club ;)

mina loy
11-11-2007, 10:44 PM
i was kind of surprised that this question was even asked because i spent 4 years at a top women's college. given this background i hadn't considered that women were boring at all.

yet at the same time i've managed to find people to hang out with that talked about interesting things in their conversations: politics, humor, issues, sex, you name it. intellectuals who discussed their intellectual topics yet found balance in occasionally discussing clothes and celebrities.

as a whole, both sexes can be boring. yet they can be utterly fascinating. you just need to find the people who are on the same level that you are.

xdamage
11-11-2007, 10:58 PM
I think, most of the time, if you find people boring it's because YOU are boring or just not interested in the same things.;)

Sure. Take an example. Someone who wants to talk sports. Me, I've never cared. It is boring to me, but clearly it is not boring to others, and for some, they could literally talk about it for hours on end. There are also various popular topics like "cooking" that make me want to stab myself with a fork if conversed about too much. I can enjoy some of it, particularly so in the context of a seductive settings, but to just discuss cooking for cooking's sake... garrrrr.... no....

There is fortunately someone(s) for everyone out there, but finding them... and for those with eccentric interests, finding others of like mind can be harder still.

And even like interests are often not enough. The personalities often have to align well enough that they two people have a degree of comfort with each other independent of the topics. For example, I share some interests with many people at work, but the overly loud Type-A's among them drain me. I find the need for attention just literally exhausting. I can enjoy a few minutes of common topic talk, but not for long because my personality type doesn't align well with theirs.

jaizaine
11-11-2007, 11:14 PM
Men are just as boring as women. I tend to think that "I don't like girls. All my friends are guys" is code for "I am too insecure to be surrounded by other women so I prefer the almost-guaranteed admiration I get from men."



wow. This is so true. I have never thought of it like this before. I used to be one of those girls who said this and believed it was true. It was also when I had no self confidence.

Budai
11-12-2007, 01:51 AM
"All God does is watch us and kill us when we get boring. We must never, ever be boring."
- Chuck Palahniuk

Djoser
11-12-2007, 11:17 AM
"All God does is watch us and kill us when we get boring. We must never, ever be boring."
- Chuck Palahniuk

Then why the fuck are all these boring people around?

I like the quote, don't mind me.


I do think that if you have the patience to sit down and elicit anything of possible interest from most people, you will find something of interest, sure enough. But though I used to take relish in doing this, I no longer have the patience. It's more rewarding to sir down with people with obvious intelligence and culture, than it is to attempt to communicate with people willfully embracing ignorance.


...given this background i hadn't considered that women were boring at all.

There were a good many brilliant women where I went to school. I suppose a few of them were boring by dint of their retrogressive social skills--as were the dorks and nerds that comprised a large percentage of the student body. However, even the most boring, predictable laggards among them would have had a field day with the notion that men are more exciting than women, or that women need men for excitement any more than the converse.


...you just need to find the people who are on the same level that you are.

Maybe the best point made yet. Seek out the vacuous, inferior, and boring types, and ye shall find them.

Andygirl
11-12-2007, 01:15 PM
I'm still wondering why the people who find women boring don't have their own group of interesting girlfriends to hang out with.

britt244
11-12-2007, 01:20 PM
I'm still wondering why the people who find women boring don't have their own group of interesting girlfriends to hang out with.

i dont exactly think that's the issue. i have great friends, but when i tried to make new ones, they kind of sucked.

Ava Jadore
11-12-2007, 01:49 PM
I just despise the fact that a lot men think that all women get along with all other women and thus stick you in the group of other girlfriends and wives and then disapear....screw that. I am very selective when it comes to my female friends. I wanna be out playing and having fun...not sitting around being catty and talking about how cute shit is for hours on end haha! I don't think women are boring in general...it just can difficult to find women who think the way I do. Life is too short to spend with shallow people.

Katrine
11-12-2007, 01:54 PM
I just despise the fact that a lot men think that all women get along with all other women and thus stick you in the group of other girlfriends and wives and then disapear....screw that. I am very selective when it comes to my female friends. I wanna be out playing and having fun...not sitting around being catty and talking about how cute shit is for hours on end haha! I don't think women are boring in general...it just can difficult to find women who think the way I do. Life is too short to spend with shallow people.

This is what I meant by my original post. I'm going to stay positive and keep thinking that other posts are not specifically attacking me.

Ava Jadore
11-12-2007, 02:00 PM
This is what I meant by my original post. I'm going to stay positive and keep thinking that other posts are not specifically attacking me.

I think I got what you were saying. It makes sense to me. In general people should just spend time with people that make them happy and stimulate their intellect ;D !

evan_essence
11-12-2007, 02:05 PM
Obviously, if you're in a group in which your interests are far different than the majority of the group, you're going to be bored to tears. Unless you can find some common ground and that's tough if you're the one "outsider". A group of mommies talking about their kids isn't likely to be prompted to change the subject if I start asking what their weirdest sexual experience has been. Although ya never know. Either they're going to think I'm a dirty slut and should be shunned, or else the damn of peer resistance will burst and they'll spill their guts out.

Another factor contributing to the boring quotient is the fact that a lot of people don't have good interpersonal skills in a social setting. I, too, find it irritating when someone drones on and on about whatever topic without noticing whether anyone else is interested and without listening as much or more than they're talking.

-Ev

Dottie Rebel
11-12-2007, 03:08 PM
This is what I meant by my original post. I'm going to stay positive and keep thinking that other posts are not specifically attacking me.

I agree with Ava's statement as well. And my post was certainly not attacking you. I guess I was just using this thread as an opportunity to bring up something that has bothered me quite a bit because it seemed on topic. I wasn't trying to say anything about you. I don't know you!

teeth_of_the_hydra
11-12-2007, 03:34 PM
Chin up, Katrine. This is one of the most insightful threads in the recent history of SW. Seriously! I don't even have anything to add yet because my brain is still grappling with eloquence and persuasiveness after posting nothing but fluff for about a month (which I also mean seriously. My Smart Post track record isn't all that good of late).

madmaxine
11-12-2007, 03:41 PM
I'd rather ride a horse down a step mountain in interior Mexico, 10,000 ft. above sea level, and listen to a group of 60 year old vaqueros discuss their life experiences and share their insight on the world, than sitting around at the ranch with the ladies talking about recipes.

Yep, old Mexican dudes in groups are funny and informative. I miss hearing my Dad shoot the breeze with his buddies.

IMO the reason women are boring in groups is that women engage in "social warfare" as an end to their means and unfortunately what you say in front of "women in general" WILL be used against you, whether you be man, woman, animal, vegetable, mineral....You get my drift. Women also form pecking orders in groups and to try to step outside of that is an invitation to ostracization.

On a related note, this is why I only pick male animals as pets, they are way more entertaining than females...and more independent.

Bridgette
11-12-2007, 03:41 PM
Ehh Kat I doubt very seriously if anyone was attacking you personally in this thread. My statement certainly was not. Just saying that IMO usually one of two possible reasons explains why someone might find others boring: either that someone is the boring one, or s/he just doesn't share common interests with the group. Most likely the latter. It's easy to say others are boring. I'm sure if you're the one who thinks the rest of the group is boring, they probably think you're boring (or something else not positive) too.

I say no need to waste time with people you don't have fun or get along with. Who cares what anyone else thinks if you go off to have fun? Life is too short for such bullshit.

Djoser
11-13-2007, 05:44 AM
Kat, you are brilliant, and as far from boring as a woman can get--or a man, for that matter. I was not trying to attack or insult you in any way. Quite the contrary, actually.

You are a walking, talking, and occasionally dancing refutation to the question.

The post above describing the inevitable segregation of the sexes at certain social gatherings brings back horrible childhood memories of excruciatingly boring hours spent with men talking about the usual tiresome bullshit, sports, cars, their former glory as athletes, etc..

If you tried to escape and go hang out with the women, they (men and women both) would all look at you funny--so many guys and women alike wanted the segregation. Plus the women were usually as boring as the men. If you got lucky you'd find someone with a rebellious or creative streak, and something interesting might occur.

madmaxine
11-13-2007, 05:49 AM
Kat, you are brilliant, and as far from boring as a woman can get--or a man, for that matter.

I haven't had the pleasure of meeting Katrine in person yet, but I get this vibe off of her.

I also get the same kind of vibe off of other Russians and Eastern Europeans- I think your attitude & personality makes sense in context of your heritage.

//Just my 2 cents.

Farrah_Holiday
11-13-2007, 07:37 AM
Everyone bores me at some point.. That's just life, it isn't not going to be a riot every second of the day. As far as grouping boredom by sex, that doesn't fly with me. There are just as many boring men as there are women.

lestat1
11-13-2007, 09:47 AM
I censor myself much more around women than I do men. But in all fairness, I have to censor myself a lot in general. :D That can make things "tamer" in the begining with women, but over time it starts to even out.

Bridgette
11-14-2007, 08:32 PM
Ahaha. I find I have to censor myself around MEN more than women. Most men can't handle my attitude, aggressiveness, directness, whatever. They get too intimidated. So now what?

Toki
11-15-2007, 12:52 AM
Good point. I never realized before that the only people I get into those deep debate-discussions with about politics/religion/whatever are guys... that just never occured to me. BUT there are a lot of cool girls, too.

True. I think what bores me most is people (of either sex) who only have a few, shallow things to talk about. Like the only discussion they'd want to get into with you is about shopping or football. I mean, I like to talk about stupid stuff too, but people who can't stand talking about politics or anything important, or fun... No thanks! And kids! No! I do not want to hear everything your little angel has done. That's a one-way ticket to a coma for me.

Djoser
11-15-2007, 04:34 PM
Ahaha. I find I have to censor myself around MEN more than women. Most men can't handle my attitude, aggressiveness, directness, whatever. They get too intimidated. So now what?

They probably can't handle being around you because it contradicts the illusion they cherish--that they are somehow superior to women.

Bridgette
11-15-2007, 06:26 PM
^Seems most women get me better. At least with a little time. Most men just tuck tail and run. LOL

scarlett_vancouver
11-15-2007, 06:30 PM
I've been in the annoying 'you go hang out with the girlfriends/wives' situation, and yes, found it boring as hell. But. That situation is completely anomalous to my regular interactions with women...I pick my friends (and aquaintances) carefully, and as such am rarely around boring chicks.

I generally find men more boring, but that's not a judgement on the gender, just a reflction of how I interact with them (it's usually more limited/censored, unless we're fucking).

Overall, I definitely don't think there's a gender-boringness correlation.

;)