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RoseWhite
12-01-2007, 09:22 PM
OOh! Here is a recipe I learned while being broke:

1 pkg. ramen noodles
2 slices of american "cheese"
1 can tuna fish

cook ramen as directed on the package
when it's hot, add the tuna and put the cheese slices on top
put back in the microwave for 2 minutes

Voila! Casserole!

Oh dear gods Alexxa. You know I adore you. But in my current state . . . :yuck:

LOL at putting the quotes around cheese!

AlexxaHex
12-01-2007, 09:26 PM
Sorry! When I was pregs I couldn't even THINK about Del Taco...or any kind of fast food.

iambonbon05
12-01-2007, 09:38 PM
I was unemployed for about three or four months after my parents cut me off. I moved into a place with cheaper rent and applied fucking EVERWHERE. Banks, fast food, clothes stores, blockbuster, grocery stores, pet supply stores, everything. I live right across from a shopping plaza and applied to every single place there. I finally got a job at Fred Meyer in the electronics department and I get paid $7.95 which isn't really enough considering the debt I racked up during my unemployment.

Now I've caught up, I can actually afford rent this month thanks in part to living very frugally and stripping on the side on top of my full time job so now I'm going to start working on paying back my boyfriend (who paid for my rent one month and a good majority of groceries for a while) and my credit card. After that, SAVINGS!

I guess my point is that even a minimum wage job isn't always easy to find and even when you find one you can work endlessly and still not really make a decent living. I am perfectly employable- I graduated from high school, had some college, have excellent job experience as a national park ranger, I don't look like some serial killer or anything yet it took me three months of applying to jobs every day to find something.

As far as stripping goes that's already been beaten to death- some people can't or won't do it or it simply doesn't occur to them.

Lady Jade
12-01-2007, 09:45 PM
My daughter would rather drop dead than strip; EVER. And with the current climate of the industry, I'm glad. But she's struggling. She and her fiance have to live with family right now until she scores a chair (she's an asst. stylist for another two months).

Around here, you can't get a one bedroom for less than 800 if you want to live in a nice area so that gives you an idea of what the living expenses are like. But, those 800 a month places are in the boonies. Wanna live closer to the city? Add another 200 per month to that.

I bought her a car outright and I pay for her car insurance. Her monthly rent is 400 for the two of them and that includes rent, food and all utilities. I will be paying for her upcoming wedding and honeymoon.

She has a good head on her shoulders and saves a lot, which is what I want her to do. But, man is it rough out there for those with no education and no family support.

I'm also thankful because I was able to strip and I was able to work a reg job also. And I was able to give my kid a great head start in life. Not everyone has that advantage.

So be happy for what you have and have some sympathy, if not empathy, for those who don't.

Just want to add that I'm less than an hour away from Dylan (I'm closer to the City, but still kind of in the boonies) and my rent is $1405/month for 825 sq. ft. This does not include utilities, that's another $200/month. Groceries run me $100+ per week because I have to be careful with my diet, so I prepare almost all of my meals instead of eating out. Total that up and it's more than I take home every month (after taxes and insurance is taken out). Ok, I admit that groceries are for two... but even if you divide the food spending in half, that's STILL more than I make a month. This doesn't leave anything for gas, car insurance, cell phone, etc. - let alone any sort of accident or injury!

There are plenty of threads with people complaining that even stripping isn't bringing in the kind of money it used to. The economy is in the shitter right now, and who knows if and when it will get better. This will only lead to more and more people just getting by and even more people who can't even do that. Everyone who is lucky enough to not worry about money at all... well, fabulous. For everyone else, we may well be stuck that way!

PaigeDWinter
12-01-2007, 10:53 PM
As someone who has seen upper class and homeless and everything in between, I have nothing positive to say about this thread.

Optimist
12-01-2007, 11:10 PM
I don't understand how you can be broke either. The only somewhat excusable reason to be unemployed and in some sort of financial crisis is if you're:

a) badly addicted to drugs
b) injured and disabled in a way that makes you incompetent to work even very low level jobs (such as wal-mart greeter, envelope stuffer, etc).. this includes mental illness.

So really the only thing that needs to happen to prevent being "broke" is for there to be better (and free) drug rehabilitation centers as well as government help for people unable to work- whether it's sufficient welfare that includes healthcare, psychiatric care and aid that assists with food/clothing/shelter necessity, or some alternative kind of work these people can do that will help them earn a living. There's a place for everybody somewhere.



So yea... it's hard to comprehend being BROKE, but you should definitely feel compassison for people who have to struggle to get by.



erm....... that was my point. durrrr :O

No, the aforementioned quote was what you said. I disagreed with the last part and said you leave no room for sexism and racism and many other injustices in your utopian scenario where "there's a place for everyone". Again I disagree that's it's a stretch to comprehend being broke at least for me although it has been for you. Durrrrrrr:O

MirrorImage
12-01-2007, 11:10 PM
I became a dancer solely because it was taboo. Being naked in society is taboo, I dont like taboo's, People are beautiful and any woman (or man) is willing to get up on a stage to show they are proud of every "flaw" they have I consider them powerful. People are beautiful, inside and out, I dont like that society (and law) has given people the impression naked isnt beautiful, flaws are beautiful, if I can be naked and make money doing it, I am happy. I have alot of outward respect for anyone willing to do it or try it, it takes alot to do something youve been taught was "bad" or "disgraceful" but really showing off the fact woman are gorgeous at any size, color, shape. Sorry, a hippy moment, but thats why i went into dancing, and looking into doing some nude art/photography.
-K

MirrorImage
12-01-2007, 11:12 PM
Id be happy making minimum wage, I just think naked is beautiful, there is nothing that is more brave than to show "what your not supposed to"
Again, hippy moment

MirrorImage
12-01-2007, 11:14 PM
[Originally Posted by AlexxaHex
OOh! Here is a recipe I learned while being broke:

1 pkg. ramen noodles
2 slices of american "cheese"
1 can tuna fish

cook ramen as directed on the package
when it's hot, add the tuna and put the cheese slices on top
put back in the microwave for 2 minutes

Voila! Casserole! ]


Hahaha! I could live being broke, I LOVE TOP RAMEN! Add some butter....yummy.
I grew up in a family with 7 kids, and a single mom that raised them all, I ate ramen alot.

BrunetteGoddess
12-01-2007, 11:21 PM
Yup, Ramen is my best friend right now. I add seasoning to it.

Lady Jade
12-01-2007, 11:27 PM
I remember being so poor at one point that we couldn't even afford Ramen... :'(

FrustratedBunny
12-01-2007, 11:33 PM
Am I the only one who thinks it's not always exactly easy to make much money as a stripper?

stellaforstars
12-01-2007, 11:35 PM
^^You most definitely are not the only one.

miabella
12-01-2007, 11:55 PM
Id be happy making minimum wage, I just think naked is beautiful, there is nothing that is more brave than to show "what your not supposed to"
Again, hippy moment

do you disapprove of all taboos, or just the ones you personally feel like breaking?

as for the rest, you should give your spot to a stripper who is in the business to earn money, not 'break taboos' for minimum wage.

Mastridonicus
12-02-2007, 12:04 AM
When I was broke, bro and I would rummage through the coat closet to come up with money to make an awesome AWESOME sammich.

Bread (had to buy)
Head of lettuce
Miracle Whip.

Toast bread lightly on stove irons (toaster substitute works, if you have a gas stove!)
Miracle Whip goes on the bread. :D
And you stick huge pieces of the lettuce in between the bread!
WAH LA! Yum.

Lady Jade
12-02-2007, 12:06 AM
^^^ My sister used to eat bread sandwiches! Take a slice of bread. Put it between two slices of bread. Eat.

Yekhefah
12-02-2007, 01:12 AM
As someone who has seen upper class and homeless and everything in between, I have nothing positive to say about this thread.

:headache: Well said.

BrunetteGoddess
12-02-2007, 01:30 AM
Argh, I comprehend broke. As a constant state.

I am working my body into the ground, working 40 hours a week and not allowed to work anymore because my store would rather fall on a knife than give me overtime. At $7.50/hour, I am at California minimum wage. And I'm still broke. Thank goodness for MIL. But hey, after her bills, she's flat broke too. I feel like I'll never be stable.

Count your blessings every day B.

Corey
12-02-2007, 02:33 AM
Am I the only one who thinks it's not always exactly easy to make much money as a stripper?

I'm with you, FB. I have been lucky since mid-September as i set a goal for myself to acheive by the beginning of this month and I have done it.

However, making decent $$$ as a stripper in my area is hard as f(**(k!!! It consumes a lot of my energy and I have found that I can be quite the manipulator. (Not of my co-workers but the custies).

It is really hard on me and I think I prefer to just do it very part-time in conjunction w/ my other career, instead of working in what I call 'power stripper mode' like I have in the last couple of months.

Bottom line: It is very hard work. But I feel blessed to be healthy, energetic and attractive enough to have a choice.

MinahSky
12-02-2007, 02:35 AM
As Chris Rock said, if Bill Gates woke up with Oprah's money, he'd jump off the roof. All 3 famous people in that sentence would jump off the roof if they woke up with the OP's money. To them, SHE is the broke one. If she or her hubby got hurt, how many pay periods could they go comfortably? Is her house paid for? Forget a car. What is the OP's net worth? If you HAVE to work to be solvent you are in no position to be talking about anyone else being broke or your lack of understanding of it.

DylanAngel
12-02-2007, 06:07 AM
Am I the only one who thinks it's not always exactly easy to make much money as a stripper?


Absolutely not. It's not very easy around here. 250 is a good night according to my friends still in the biz.

If you factor in benefits, bonuses and perks (pension, 401K matching and stock options), even stripping 7 nights a week, I still make more at my regular job.

And this is assuming I could even hit that 250 per night!

Lysondra
12-02-2007, 06:47 AM
I comprehend being broke. I do not, however, comprehend being broke and doing nothing about it.

In the end, all I care about is that you try.

Casual Observer
12-02-2007, 07:37 AM
I respectfully submit that if the OP can't understand the concept, considerations, and circumstances surrounding economic insecurity and insolvency, to say nothing of those attempting to throw off the leaden shackles of systemic generational poverty, that she hasn't lived long or seen much in this world and is clearly not the better for it.

All wealth is relative, and ignorance is bliss.

oregonchick
12-02-2007, 08:53 AM
In the hustling world we have our highs and lows. We should not be expected to scrape by the all the 9 to 5 ers.

britt244
12-02-2007, 08:53 AM
I comprehend being broke. I do not, however, comprehend being broke and doing nothing about it.

In the end, all I care about is that you try.

honestly, i think thats what the op meant without saying it as well as you.

DylanAngel
12-02-2007, 09:09 AM
In the hustling world we have our highs and lows. We should not be expected to scrape by the all the 9 to 5 ers.

Not all of us "9 to 5ers" scrape by honey. I make more in an office than in the SC due to geographical limitations.

Way to generalize::)

hardkandee
12-02-2007, 09:12 AM
I comprehend being broke. I do not, however, comprehend being broke and doing nothing about it.

In the end, all I care about is that you try.

That's what I understood this to be about.

Mastridonicus
12-02-2007, 09:20 AM
Not all of us "9 to 5ers" scrape by honey. I make more in an office than in the SC due to geographical limitations.

Way to generalize::)

Well that's cause you got the brains to go with that body. Seriously, you're intelligence combined with your "get-what-you're-asking-for-on-the-first-try" attitude put you at a cut above the rest. Throw in your experience and you'd almost be a catch for ANY decision making position.

It's hard to get that mix in a GUY.


I don't comprehend. Really. You should try talking to me some time. Asking those who've had any serious conversation with me, you'll find that the experience is much like an etch-a-sketch on the road. All of a sudden the right square nipple is partially missing.

DylanAngel
12-02-2007, 09:25 AM
Well that's cause you got the brains to go with that body. Seriously, you're intelligence combined with your "get-what-you're-asking-for-on-the-first-try" attitude put you at a cut above the rest. Throw in your experience and you'd almost be a catch for ANY decision making position.

It's hard to get that mix in a GUY.


I don't comprehend. Really. You should try talking to me some time. Asking those who've had any serious conversation with me, you'll find that the experience is much like an etch-a-sketch on the road. All of a sudden the right square nipple is partially missing.

Mast, you flatterer. Haven't you learned that this will never distract me from hitting on the mother of your yet to be born child?

ANY decision making position? How 'bout President?;)

RoseWhite
12-02-2007, 09:32 AM
ANY decision making position? How 'bout President?;)

*prints up "Dylan '08: Hers are better than all the other boobs that are running!" bumper stickers*

Mastridonicus
12-02-2007, 09:46 AM
Mast, you flatterer. Haven't you learned that this will never distract me from hitting on the mother of your yet to be born child?

ANY decision making position? How 'bout President?;)

Who says I'm trying to distract you?

*finger wrap*

RoseWhite
12-02-2007, 10:23 AM
Okay. Since my only contributions to the thread so far have been commenting on Alexxa's culinary prowess and complimenting Dylan's fine, fine attributes, I'll throw in the thought that keeps coming to my mind ON the topic.

I don't know how many people were fortunate enough to catch the documentary series called "30 Days". (http://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/originals/30days/) It was created by Morgan Spurlock, the same guy who did the feature documentary "Super-Size Me" (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0390521/) about fast food, and the soon-to-be-released "What Would Jesus Buy", (http://www.wwjbmovie.com/) about the commercialization of Christmas.

Background: "30 Days" was inspired by Spurlock's experience in "Super-Size Me', in which he used himself as an experiment, doing something he normally would never experience for a period of 30 days, and seeing what he - and others, by observing - would learn from it. So he created this series, wherein subjects would put themselves in circumstances that were far beyond their own lives (a homophobic man living in the Castro with a gay roommate, a born-again Christian going to live with a devout Muslim family, and so on). The results were both very interesting and enlightening. Everyone was changed by the experiences, to varying and unpredictable degrees. The Christian wasn't about to convert and give up his own beliefs, of course, no one expected that, but he did come away from it with a deeper understanding and more tolerance.

Getting to my point: So to kick off the series, the guinea pigs of the series premiere were Spurlock himself and his girlfriend, who decided to see for themselves what it was REALLY like to try to live on minimum wage. They knew it wasn't going to be fun, but even they weren't prepared for just how miserable the experience would be, and for how rapidly their circumstances snowballed into more and more misfortune.

In order to really simulate a life on minimum wage, they didn't just take minimum wage jobs and continue enjoying the blessings they already had - they made themselves move out of their apartment, and had to find a new one based on their new income. They couldn't use money they already had in the bank from their previous lives. They gave up their cars and had to use public transportation, and so on. All this just set the stage. Once they found jobs (they soon found they had to take second jobs just to feed themselves), they were scraping by - just barely, but they were doing it - UNTIL one of them got sick. With no insurance to get medical help, they stayed sick, lost work and thus income (no salaries and paid sick days for wage slaves, after all), and the downward spiral REALLY began.

They were shocked at just how quickly their lives could take such a turn, and were deeply affected by how it affected them emotionally. Their relationship suffered, as both of them were tired and unhappy and stressed out all the time. There were all kinds of effects that they never, ever could have seen from the outside looking in.

Now, factor in that this was only THIRTY DAYS of this. Some critics (in general, the show was quite acclaimed despite being short-lived) have pointed out that this could never truly simulate the experience of being poor over a lifetime, and that's absolutely true, but at least they were willing to really try. Rather than scoffing at those who are less fortunate and just saying "Why don't those lazy bums just pull themselves up by their bootstraps?", they were willing to at least temporarily see for themselves what it was like, knowing that it was limited - even just being aware that there was a light at the end of the tunnel for them must have helped them get through it. people living it for real don't have that light. Factor in other things that Spurlock and his partner did not have any way to simulate (and yet they are so often part of the whole scenario), like addictions, family history, debt and abuse . . . and you can really begin to see the whole picture.

I'm not saying that it's not possible to pull yourself out of poverty Horatio Alger style - I mean, even though it's rare, it's still the "American Dream" and some have certainly managed - I'm just pointing out the old adage: "Never judge someone until you have walked a mile in their moccasins." And even 30 days in those moccasins might not give you the whole story - but at least some were willing to try, and share what they learned.

(Sorry so long, I just kept thinking of the show every time I saw this thread, and decided to finally share. I heart Morgan Spurlock.)

stellaforstars
12-02-2007, 10:29 AM
^^I adored that episode. I wish more people could have seen it. Having it on cable, of course, made it very limited.

Morgan_TX
12-02-2007, 11:08 AM
I re-read my other posts, and I apologize. I didn't realize how strongly I worded my post, and how poorly I came across. And at the risk of re-starting this, I want to make an attempt to explain myself...

I HAVE been poor... Like, evicted from the house because you can't pay rent, living in a minivan with three kids, walking on the side of the road to pick oranges on the city streets so that you'll at least have some free food, washing clothes in the park bathrooms, POOR. I've had pretty much all of my utilities shut off at one point or another. I've begged for food from churches and even panhandled on occassion.

BUT... (and this is the point I was trying to make...)

I've survived. And I've done whatever I've needed to do to make ends meet. AND I did it with three kids and an ex who doesn't pay child support. AND I have a plan for improving things. For me, that plan includes dancing, but it doesn't have to. The point is that I'm working to improve my financial security.

It's not easy, and I apologize if my previous posts implied that to be my opinion. But my whole point is that it CAN be done. We have a regular customer at my SC that is moderately mentally handicapped (I think moderately autistic... He seems to have primarily communication and social difficulties), and he's been working at Wal-Mart for about three years. Because of their payscale, he's now making $9/hr pushing carts in the parking lot (and $9/hr is really pretty good pay in this area... minimum wage is $5.25, I think, and even with my years as an admin assistant, most jobs for me are only in the $11-$13 range.)! Now he undoubtedly started off as a minimum wage employee, but he's been able to move up and increase his pay.

This is all I'm saying... There are job-training programs available in every state in the U.S. There are apprenticeships available for various trades. In fact, one company is advertising an electrician apprenticeship position starting at $8/hr, and after 2 years of apprenticeship (and subsequent licensing), electrician journeymen can start at $30+. We live in Texas (where if you're not IN prison, you WORK for the prisons), and prison guards are CONSTANTLY being hired (and that starts at about $2k/month with full benefits). You can join the military. You can find a sales job that's wage + commission and have the ability to boost your income substantially. You can work as a server in a sit-down restaurant and make pretty good money (depending on the restaurant) with the tips you get. You can use financial aid to go back to college or to go through a technical school. You can go work in a factory making fiberglass (starts at $11/hr in this area) or plastic injection molding (starts at about $11/hr). You can work in the meat-packing plants (line workers start at about $9-$10/hr, and overtime is often available).

These are all unskilled jobs (or jobs that provide training, or training options). These are jobs that any McDonald's burger-flipper could get, that would pay much better. These are also jobs that are ALWAYS hiring in our area, because they ARE shit-jobs, and nobody wants to do them.

I think my point is that there ARE options for those who wish to improve their financial standing. Maybe these options just aren't publicized enough, and not enough people know about them... I don't know. And in all fairness, some of these jobs are dangerous and most aren't very pleasant. (Fiberglass, for example, is HIGHLY dangerous, and even their protective gear doesn't protect them from all the shards of material. And meat-packing is one of the most dangerous industries in the country.)

So I guess my point is simply that I feel that there are so many options for people in poverty. But what *I* have heard from people like this is, "I'm not going to work at that job--that's too dangerous!" or "I don't want to be cleaning that shit all day!" or "I shouldn't have to do that!"

Yes, if you don't start with a silver spoon in your mouth, you have to work a lot harder to get ahead. You have to take more risks and do dangerous or unpleasant work. You have to do things you don't want to do to get where you want to be. But my whole point is that you CAN do it, by taking advantage of what's out there and being willing to do ANYTHING in order to create a better life for yourself.

AudreyLeigh
12-02-2007, 12:07 PM
I saw that episode Rose. Amazing. I remember when I was 18 years old and my daughter was about 18 months old. I was on welfare, working a 40 hr a week min wage job AND living in subsidized housing, subsidized childcare and was STILL broke. Im glad I had that experience and now that Im not bringing in the cash from dancing I realize I CAN make it when I 'start over' with my new career.

And I agree with whoever said they can comprehend being broke but cannot comprehend doing nothing to change it.

And Id like to point out the struggle of a fellow SWer to find a job, ANY job. Its NOT ALWAYS EASY. She wanted and needed a job and had a hard time finding one. BUT she did not just give up and say "oh well, its just not going to happen" its that DRIVE that people need. Some people do not have that drive and THATS where the line is drawn for me.

Alaska
12-02-2007, 12:10 PM
Have you guys read Nickel and Dimed by Barbara Eirenreich?

I know this is about why she can't understand why girls just don't strip, but wtf. All I went thru I STILL didn't comprehend stripping.

Yekhefah
12-02-2007, 12:12 PM
^^^ I thought about it, but I thought I would have to fuck the manager to get hired, and I thought the job consisted mostly of giving blowjobs and handjobs or grinding on guys until they came. And I couldn't bring myself to do that. I did think about it a lot though, and several times I wished I had the guts to engage in prostitution, but I never did.

TigersMilk
12-02-2007, 12:29 PM
30 days on minimum wage video (http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=21064080)

I comprehend people not comprehending about being broke. The stress of being broke not knowing when your next meal is going to come from rather than what next coach purse you're going to buy. If you've never been broke its hard to understand what struggles they go through and how every little thing ripples in its effects on others.

VegasPrincess
12-02-2007, 12:52 PM
Wow, what a fabulously ignorant first post this thread has... I don't "get" being broke? Umm, what exactly is there to "get..." Not everyone has the opportunity to dance, to find a well paying job, etc.... face it, that's life. Nobody wants to be poor.

This post is like saying, "That guys ugly. I don't get it.."

Alaska
12-02-2007, 12:56 PM
^True as hell, great analogy! Sure, he could get plastic surgery and DO something about it, one day!

beautiful.
12-02-2007, 01:06 PM
I comprehend being broke. I do not, however, comprehend being broke and doing nothing about it.

In the end, all I care about is that you try.


That is exactly what I was trying to say and the whole point of this thread. Thank you for saying it so well. Maybe now all of you who have been rude to me will chill out.

Yekhefah
12-02-2007, 01:13 PM
I didn't see anyone being rude to you, beautiful... just pointing out your insensitivity and blissful ignorance. It's a GOOD thing for you that you can't comprehend what millions of us have gone through, so count your blessings and be happy.

Susan Wayward
12-02-2007, 01:44 PM
I respectfully submit that if the OP can't understand the concept, considerations, and circumstances surrounding economic insecurity and insolvency, to say nothing of those attempting to throw off the leaden shackles of systemic generational poverty, that she hasn't lived long or seen much in this world and is clearly not the better for it.

Hear, hear! It is exactly this sort of worldview that allowed Americans to be shocked by images of Katrina evacuees, lacking, as they did, an understanding of how anyone could be unable to pick up and leave. It also is what allows corporate welfare, tax breaks for the rich, and an erosion of the estate tax as so many people mistakenly believe they, too, will one day be wealthy, when the truth is they are more likely to leave behind debt than assets.

Whether or not people "understand" it, poverty is real, and to say that it is an individual failing or character flaw shows a lack of understanding and compassion at the least, and outright cruelty at the worst.


Have you guys read Nickel and Dimed by Barbara Eirenreich?

I was just thinking this when I read your post! It does an excellent job of illustrating just how hard it is to even find a place to live when you work for minimum wage and don't have the (financial) support of family or friends.

And Lena, I would like to submit that you had the gift of imagination on your side, and that's what made you able to do what you did; you had the ability to see a non-broke, non-miserable future and to create that for yourself. In a lot of people that spark doesn't exist to begin with or gets soundly snuffed.

beautiful.
12-02-2007, 01:46 PM
When was I ever insensitive?

Yekhefah
12-02-2007, 01:48 PM
The original post in this thread came off as extremely insensitive and condescending. I don't think you're being insensitive anymore though, and I appreciate your open-mindedness.

Alaska
12-02-2007, 01:49 PM
All I know is it's easier to comprehend being broke than it is to comprehend stripping!

So most of us aren't like the OP. (how she sounded. )That's okay. That's what makes the world go round and etc.

stellaforstars
12-02-2007, 01:58 PM
I think this everyone's being a little hard on the OP.

You really can't fault someone for not understanding a situation they've never been in.

I can't comprehend being rich and blowing my money on pointless, expensive things, but I doubt I'll get reamed for saying that.

Beautiful, I know that you didn't mean to come off as arrogant in your first post. I don't know if I'm the only one who feels this way, but I wanted you to know that.

beautiful.
12-02-2007, 02:50 PM
Thanks Stella. To everybody else, I'm sorry if I came off arrogant in the first post, it really wasn't my intention. I hope that after explaining myself a little better throught this thread and some comments I made in the other thread everybody else will understand that. I'm really not a condescending, stuck up bitch like I've probably come off as.

DylanAngel
12-02-2007, 02:57 PM
Thanks Stella. To everybody else, I'm sorry if I came off arrogant in the first post, it really wasn't my intention. I hope that after explaining myself a little better throught this thread and some comments I made in the other thread everybody else will understand that. I'm really not a condescending, stuck up bitch like I've probably come off as.

Yeah, I see that now. Maybe I should have said that sooner.

You're very young, Beautiful, and I'm glad you haven't (and hopefully you never do) had a chance to see some of the harsher realities of life.

I hope you and your family experience nothing but good times. Maybe now that you've heard others' stories, it would be nice if you gave something back.

I remember those lean times all too well and always contribute money, if not my time, in honor of those who still fight that fight.

beautiful.
12-02-2007, 03:20 PM
I hope you and your family experience nothing but good times. Maybe now that you've heard others' stories, it would be nice if you gave something back.

I remember those lean times all too well and always contribute money, if not my time, in honor of those who still fight that fight.

Absolutely, A while ago I saw a little girl and her mother sitting on the sidewalk in the cold waiting for the soup kitchen to open up and I stopped at the gas station across the street and used all the money I had on me and bought them powdered donuts and milk and juice. I'm also in nursing school for the sole purpose of helping people and trying to make a difference. I always try to help out when I can, and it makes me really happy when others volunteer and help out. I'm glad people are starting to see that I really wasn't trying to be ugly when I started this thread. Thanks.