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kitty260
12-05-2007, 08:42 AM
One girl I talked to at the club let me have her yahoo im.So we cam back and forth.

Yes, that's called 'cultivating a regular.' Lots of dancers do that when they're trying to get someone to come into the club often and drop large amounts of money on them. It ain't really a friendly thing. It's business. Sorry to break it to you.


So maybe you could explain how your blog doesn't make you like a stalker, and it will help you out here. ;)


Yes, please do explain. We're dying to know.

xdamage
12-05-2007, 09:10 AM
Stalkers... hmmm... the stereotypical stalker loves the apple of his eye, and would never ever hurt them... aha.

Corry... it's simple.

Do we like strippers? Sure.

Do we like strip clubs? Absolutely. It is fun.

Do we all have websites devoted to stripping? Nope. Most of us have lives and don't have time or enough interest to build websites devoted to strippers or clubs.

Do we avoid women, dating, sex with women who we don't have to pay? Nope. Most of the guys have wives, GFs, both even. The SC is entertainment in addition to that, not a replacement for real life relationships.

Jenny
12-05-2007, 09:22 AM
That other Jeff guy is a stalker of strippers, and he is not anybody that a nice person would want to be compared to. So maybe you could explain how your blog doesn't make you like a stalker, and it will help you out here. ;)I'm obviously missing something. I don't see how a blog that says "I like strippers" makes him a stalker. Mockworthy, sure. I mean, nobody here is interested in strippers. You're all too cool for that. Well, you're too cool to dedicate a lot of surfing time to it. Okay, well, you're at least too cool to talk incessantly about it on the internet. Okay... well, at least everyone here is too cool to write out detailed accounts of their strip club visits and share them to elicit commentary on them. Hmm. Well. Gosh. Okay - so you're too cool to make your own banner to do it. Okay - now we've got the quantifiable difference. Except for one or two of you who do.

kitty260
12-05-2007, 10:04 AM
He made the website hoping a specific dancer will find it and contact him.

CORRY20
12-05-2007, 10:19 AM
Let me first clear some things up.My blog isn't about just one girl.It's devoted to all the special women of this industries. The girl I was trying to find She some how found out my yahoo im.We cam together.I had one post about her that's all.I tell my stories of the club.The girls tell me allot of person information which I will not post.We talk about our family's.I understand that in my wildest dreams I could never get a women that works in a club.I have giving up on that a long time ago.I like to talk to the lady's in the club.

http://lapdancejunkie.wordpress.com/

kitty260
12-05-2007, 10:31 AM
And we're trying to point out to you that having to pay for female attention can start to create unhealthy delusions, a la Jeff and Bianca. It might not be the worst idea to have some female contact outside of the club.

CORRY20
12-05-2007, 11:26 AM
I have tried that but I can't get lady friends.I have tried relationship experts.I have also gone to image consultants.None of them worked for me.Women say I am not very attractive they say im nice but I don't look good so they don't want to talk or hang out with me.I have given up on the whole friends with women thing.

minnow
12-05-2007, 11:51 AM
I still don't understand, after visiting SCs for nigh on 18 years, how exactly someone can jizz all over themselves from a mere lap dance. Maybe I'm just particularly insensitive, but I just don't get it.

Go to zbone.com, then click "pop poll". One ? dealt with how many customers had "come to completion" during a lapdance. Slightly over half(52%, I think) had. Of course, that was 5 yrs ago, results may be different now. Even then, may not represent ALL stripclub patrons. Still, next patrons experiences/perceptions don't mirror yours, or mine.8)

xdamage
12-05-2007, 04:36 PM
I have tried that but I can't get lady friends.

I call Shenanigans. When guys say this it's only true if they are totally losers, or because they are trying to date women who are hot and looking for an equally physically hot guy. There are plenty of other women. You don't have to fuck them, or keep on dating them, or love them, and they may not look like strippers, but you can still go out with women and spend time with them in non STRIP CLUB settings.


Many years later, when you are not such a padawan, you will have what it takes to attract the hotties, and probably also fix your hair, get some glasses that don't suck, put on a few pounds, and get some threads that don't say T-SHIRT on them.

But if you hang out in the clubs... you will be 30, then 40, and frankly, it will suck dude.

Casual Observer
12-05-2007, 05:31 PM
I always find this kind of interesting. This issue with male potency - like a "real man" doesn't ejaculate from a lapdance. It's weird when you think about - I mean the point of the lapdance is to be sexually stimulated (as all you guys love to point out - we are not ballerinas). So then we all look down on a guy because... he is?


I'm not making judgments here, Jenny. I literally presume I'm just not sensitive enough to finish from a grind session, as I've never even been close. Never. Works fine during regular use, but never during a lapdance.

I don't begrudge any guy getting off in an SC, be it via grinding or full-on extras (and not those bullshit moves that most Pinkies think are extras). But I just can't see that happening for me.

Lapaholic
12-05-2007, 06:27 PM
^^^ Yeah being Catholic , I have to like account for each and every sperm that is not in or near a vagina. Plus with all the blacklights in a club who wants their crotch glowing when they leave the Lap area...



I don't have to have dumbass conversations about how redheads are alien spawn.

Ooops - they know we are on to them!!!!


I have tried that but I can't get lady friends.I have tried relationship experts.I have also gone to image consultants.None of them worked for me.Women say I am not very attractive they say im nice but I don't look good so they don't want to talk or hang out with me.I have given up on the whole friends with women thing.

Dude ... !!!! Keep looking, u will find a groove - just not in a SC ... I guess u could look at a SC as practice... but better let the more experiences "players" verify if thats a good idea...

CORRY20
12-05-2007, 07:04 PM
I call Shenanigans. When guys say this it's only true if they are totally losers, or because they are trying to date women who are hot and looking for an equally physically hot guy. There are plenty of other women. You don't have to fuck them, or keep on dating them, or love them, and they may not look like strippers, but you can still go out with women and spend time with them in non STRIP CLUB settings.


Many years later, when you are not such a padawan, you will have what it takes to attract the hotties, and probably also fix your hair, get some glasses that don't suck, put on a few pounds, and get some threads that don't say T-SHIRT on them.

But if you hang out in the clubs... you will be 30, then 40, and frankly, it will suck dude.

WOW that was mean.Im 5'9 150 pounds which where I should be if I was more it would be considered over weight.I do go to the gym.My Glasses are Giorgio Armani.I don't where threads that say T-shirt.One thing girls do compliment me on is my clothes.That's thing my image counselor has thought me.Please don't become a motivational speaker.

KITTY
Yes, that's called 'cultivating a regular.' Lots of dancers do that when they're trying to get someone to come into the club often and drop large amounts of money on them. It ain't really a friendly thing. It's business. Sorry to break it to you.

Now one thing i notice about the Canadian clubs to the American clubs.From my experience I have only been to clubs in the Tampa and Miami area.I have had girls that have left the clubs and have my email and im and moved clear across the country and still email me to talk or im me.We talk on a regular basis they know they will never see me again or I will spend a dime on them.I have talked to girls that have stripped at American and Canadian clubs.For some reason or another they do get close to their customers.We talk about family life personal things at the club.I saw the Forum where the guy said do you think we are all losers?Got some pretty nasty responses in their.

xdamage
12-05-2007, 08:23 PM
WOW that was mean....That's thing my image counselor has thought me.Please don't become a motivational speaker.


It was mean, but if the image counselor (who is not mean) is not working, and according to you it is not, and you have given up trying, it is time to try a new approach to get motivated to change directions.

Look, these dancers love our money, not us. They don't necessarily want what is best for you in the long run. They want what is best for them in the short run, MONEY. If that contributes to a customer's social problems, they don't care because it's not their problem to care. As long as you keep coming in and spending, they will tell you what you want to hear, but not necessarily what is in your best long term interest. Some of the dancers in this forum are the exceptions because they aren't profiting off you, so may well tell you the truth, which is GOOD, truth is what we need, but in the SC, it's all about making money.


Women are wonderful beings, but so are guys. Us guys should NOT put them up on pedestals. Particularly not dancers like some of the guys do. Dancers want your cash, plain and simple. There is nothing wrong with that, but it's also not something to worship.

There are plenty of women out there who also feel awkward around men. All many of them want is for someone to give them a chance. They aren't going to turn you down because you don't look like some idealized male model, or because you don't have perfect social skills. They may not look like strippers or act like strippers, but then for the most part, real women don't look or act like that anyway, and those that do... pass, at least for now.

Dude, I'm not the best looking guy either. It really really really doesn't matter. While there are some women who will blow you off for looks, there are many more who will judge based on how you behave. The threads are for you, wear what makes you feel great, not to impress them, although doing so works both ways.

KUT THE STRING
12-05-2007, 08:46 PM
cory no disrespect. the jism on the hind quarters of a fantasy speacialist is down right disrespetful doofus. it seems as if your trying to get a reaction or a nut if you will...

mr_punk
12-05-2007, 08:48 PM
There should be a heavily-moderated newbie customer section. Kind of like the newbie dancer section on pink, where there is an assumption of a poster not being intimately familiar with the industry and so is treated with patience. It'd take some work, and I volunteer to help moderate, but I suspect newbie customers and helping them out is something at the very bottom of the site's priorities, if it even makes the list.if it ever comes to pass. it looks like you'll have to volunteer, lestat. it's not like you can depend on the current mods. they're to busy setting up the campfire and passing out the weenies and marshmellows.

I'm not making judgments here, Jenny. I literally presume I'm just not sensitive enough to finish from a grind session, as I've never even been close. Never. Works fine during regular use, but never during a lapdance.agreed. although, i think it might be a case of being too sensitive. for me, a LD is akin to the the difference between a dry tugjob and a tugjob with lube. a dry pull it isn't a problem for some guys, but the latter is far more pleasurable and less painful to me than the former. which is why i always carry a little bottle of lube into the sc

Bob_Loblaw
12-05-2007, 10:52 PM
WOW that was mean.Im 5'9 150 pounds which where I should be if I was more it would be considered over weight.I do go to the gym.My Glasses are Giorgio Armani.I don't where threads that say T-shirt.One thing girls do compliment me on is my clothes.That's thing my image counselor has thought me.Please don't become a motivational speaker.


It was mean...

I don't think it was mean at all. A slap back to reality from the cold, hard truth was required. Sugar coating it wouldn't do any good.
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Corry, you clearly have self esteem issues. Don't go looking for validation or the answers at a strip club. You will end up worse off and your social skills will deteriorate. You're only 20 (I assume). There's still hope. Get out while you can.


Now one thing i notice about the Canadian clubs to the American clubs.From my experience I have only been to clubs in the Tampa and Miami area.I have had girls that have left the clubs and have my email and im and moved clear across the country and still email me to talk or im me.We talk on a regular basis they know they will never see me again or I will spend a dime on them.I have talked to girls that have stripped at American and Canadian clubs.For some reason or another they do get close to their customers.We talk about family life personal things at the club.I saw the Forum where the guy said do you think we are all losers?Got some pretty nasty responses in their.

Nur-huh-what?!? Was there a point you were trying to get to within all that rambling? :drunk:

CORRY20
12-06-2007, 08:15 AM
cory no disrespect. the jism on the hind quarters of a fantasy speacialist is down right disrespetful doofus. it seems as if your trying to get a reaction or a nut if you will...

No not at all Just wondering how all the women feel about this.I have been in clubs and said you know I will pay 80bucks up front.It's 20 bucks a song.That's all I'm paying.The girls will actually tell me you'r going to cum durring this song.I will tell them I'm only paying 80 bucks thats it no extra tip for release or anyting.This has nothing to do with disrespect anybody.I'm actually 26.

xdamage
12-06-2007, 08:48 AM
I think one can only get so flipped out over the fact that if stimulate men sexually, that some of them cum in SCs (intentional or otherwise). Particularly clubs where customers are paying for the heavy grind, I mean, well duh.

Still, there are a lot of conflicts and some humor at play.

1.) Guys who cum too easily/quickly with clothes on could be the stuff of mockery because it suggests he is a ?poor? lover lacking the ability to have sex long enough to get her off too. Strangely, presumably prostitutes who want to get over with ASAP prefer this type of client? In an SC though, I suppose it depends on whether or not the customers buys lesser dances or expects less effort as a result?

2.) There is some real risk of transmitting your man goo through clothing, possibly infecting her with something (and I suppose a very small chance of pregnancy).

3.) SC workers are generally thought of as sex workers, but sex work lies on a big grey scale from no contact to, well, prostitution. Exactly where a strippers limits are varies from dancer to dancer. Maybe she is okay with the grind, but if guys are coming it moves up a notch on the grey scale into what she thinks of as prostitution and she doesn't want to do that. That's the thing about grey scales, there is no absolute truths, just lots of opinions. And most strippers are adamant they are not prostitutes. Let's face it. Even Jerry Springer's guests use the word "whore" as an insult. Our society does not look positively on prostitution for the most part.

4.) Sex is one of those things that we all start off as pre-pubescent noobs. At that time in our lives sex is "yucky". The immaturity, yucky feelings don't wear off over night. For many it takes years, decades even to become comfortable with sex and truly out grow the feeling that it is dirty, or yucky. So... the thing is, a lot of strippers are still pretty young. Just because one strips does not necessarily mean one has finished emotionally maturing let alone fully come to grips with the fact that sex is as normal as eating, and people orgasming is, well... just part of what it is to be human.

CORRY20
12-06-2007, 09:39 AM
I think we need to look at Prostitutes and Escorts in a better light.I lost my virginity in the summer to a escort.I didn't cum because I was so nervous.We talked cuddled and had a wonderful time and made me feel special.When you have underwear on pants it's a low risk of her getting any on her .You got to be porn star to get any on her.

kitty260
12-06-2007, 10:06 AM
^^^That doesn't surprise me.

CORRY20
12-06-2007, 10:21 AM
Me eather

Jenny
12-06-2007, 10:21 AM
Hmm. I can't imagine letting you "arrive" in 4 songs. If you're going to "release" I expect more than $80. That goes back to my "I get paid" criteria.

yoda57us
12-06-2007, 10:37 AM
Hmm. I can't imagine letting you "arrive" in 4 songs. If you're going to "release" I expect more than $80. That goes back to my "I get paid" criteria.

Ah! But that is the dilemma!

Dancers who create goo for pay have to know their customer base. Some guys will spend a ton of cash on a girl or even spring for VIP to get the job done but others want to splooge in a couple of songs and go...yes, they are cheap!

If you keep bringing a guy to the edge and then easing off, trying to make him last for five or six songs you may well lose him to the grind-queen on the other side of the club who he knows will get him off in one song...

lol, nothing is as simple as it looks....

pookie
12-06-2007, 10:40 AM
If you keep bringing a guy to the edge and then easing off, trying to make him last for five or six songs you may well lose him to the grind-queen on the other side of the club who he knows will get him off in one song...

There is truth to this, but not even a grind queen is gonna let him get off in one song, unless there is an agreement that he will pay more. i have never met a dancer who would let all that money get away and let him go in just 1 song

CORRY20
12-06-2007, 10:57 AM
Most girls hate it when guys cum but maybe some girls actually enjoy it.

zxcire
12-06-2007, 11:02 AM
Most girls hate it when guys cum but maybe some girls actually enjoy it.

Aaaaaannndddd....that brings us right back to....the beginning of this thread!

Yay for circular logic!

Jenny
12-06-2007, 11:03 AM
Ah! But that is the dilemma!

Dancers who create goo for pay have to know their customer base. Some guys will spend a ton of cash on a girl or even spring for VIP to get the job done but others want to splooge in a couple of songs and go...yes, they are cheap!

If you keep bringing a guy to the edge and then easing off, trying to make him last for five or six songs you may well lose him to the grind-queen on the other side of the club who he knows will get him off in one song...

lol, nothing is as simple as it looks....
Honestly - one song for ANYTHING is not a dream for most girls. I will get a little irritable on the inside doing what is absolutely standard for one song. I mean, I'll be nice about it - unless I feel the guy has made me work too hard for it - but I don't really like having to sweet talk a guy, then go up and be seriously and intimately groped in exchange for $20. I generally expect to sell 5 at a time. So I'm willing and kind of happy to lose the customer who is trying to be super time-efficient. So for me - not a huge dilemma. It's only a dilemma for girls who really, really want one song customers AND are doing a serious cost-benefit analysis to being cum on in the space of one song. I think that is a relatively small subset.

Jenny
12-06-2007, 11:06 AM
Most girls hate it when guys cum but maybe some girls actually enjoy it.No. Well, okay, like one probably does. But statistically it is extremely likely that she is pretending to enjoy it, and is fact somewhere on or between "disgusted" and "indifferent". Like I said - there is no point to faking poorly. If you're going to fake, you might as well make the guy believe it. Me, I personally can make guys in a strip club believe most things if I set my mind to it, no matter how cynical and realistic they may be in the rest of their lives, and I see no particular reason to think that I'm the only one who can do that.

CORRY20
12-06-2007, 11:10 AM
Jenny I really appreciate your honesty.

xdamage
12-06-2007, 11:17 AM
Most girls hate it when guys cum but maybe some girls actually enjoy it.

/bangs head on wall

I suppose, anything is possible, there is some girl out there who does, the rare oddball case, but there are more reasons for them not to like then the other way around. There were other reasons I didn't even bother listing because they would take a while to explain. Honestly I think the truth is the VAST majority don't "enjoy it". They may tolerate to greater degrees, but that is it. They tolerate it for money, not for enjoyment.

Why do you care anyway if they enjoy it? What difference does it make? She is not your girlfriend. She is someone you are paying for a service.

CORRY20
12-06-2007, 11:24 AM
Well as long as she is happy.I always want the other people to enjoy it to.I want her to be happy.

Sophia_Starina
12-06-2007, 11:24 AM
Most girls hate it when guys cum but maybe some girls actually enjoy it.

What could a girl possibly enjoy about some guys leaving a wet spot on his pants or on her body? Seriously... what is there to enjoy....

CORRY20
12-06-2007, 11:26 AM
The girl plays with her self as she is grinding so it is possible for her to climax also.

kitty260
12-06-2007, 11:34 AM
This thread is so fucking funny.

CORRY20
12-06-2007, 11:36 AM
Interesting Kitty

Jenny
12-06-2007, 11:39 AM
Okay - well, there she is still not enjoying your climax. Just saying. And again - there is no way for you to tell if she's faking. I suppose if she keeps dancing for you she is happy enough with your money to keep dancing for you and giving you the experience you want. That might just have to be enough assurance. Because in all likelihood - no, she probably doesn't like it when you come.

CORRY20
12-06-2007, 11:42 AM
Why would she tell me she wants me to cum?When we get started.She also gave me free dances because I was taking to long to cum.She said you're not leaving until you come.I was a little startled talk about pressure.

kitty260
12-06-2007, 11:43 AM
Okay - well, there she is still not enjoying your climax. Just saying. And again - there is no way for you to tell if she's faking. I suppose if she keeps dancing for you she is happy enough with your money to keep dancing for you and giving you the experience you want. That might just have to be enough assurance. Because in all likelihood - no, she probably doesn't like it when you come.

Wow. You're a saint. I gave up already since this guy obviously can't separate fantasy from reality.

kitty260
12-06-2007, 11:44 AM
Why would she tell me she wants me to cum?When we get started.She also gave me free dances because I was taking to long to cum.She said you're not leaving until you come.I was a little startled talk about pressure.

BECAUSE SHE WANTS YOU TO COME BACK AND KEEP GIVING HER MONEY!

Jesus CHRIST.

CORRY20
12-06-2007, 11:46 AM
I told her I was moving and was going to back for at least 3 years.Kitty could you please stop with the swearing.The Gods name and vain thing really gets me.

CORRY20
12-06-2007, 11:48 AM
I just want to thank everybody for their comments.I hope everyone has a wonderful day.

zxcire
12-06-2007, 11:50 AM
I totally like getting guys off. But not just in vip. My club doesn't have a vip. During a lap dance on the floor is good. Sometimes, I reach down when I'm on stage and rub til they pop.

I can't help myself.

It's a sickness.

I love making men come. I don't even ask for a tip. The fact that they cummed is enough for me.

I love my job.

kitty260
12-06-2007, 11:52 AM
Actually, it's called taking God's name IN vain...FYI. And if you're planning on hanging around here, you're going to be seeing it a lot so get used to it. At the very least, learn the correct term.

And by the way, God wouldn't approve of you splooging all over strippers.

zxcire
12-06-2007, 11:53 AM
And by the way, God wouldn't approve of you splooging all over strippers.

Oh heck. Can I quote????

kitty260
12-06-2007, 11:54 AM
Have at 'er,

I LOL'ed at your post.

CORRY20
12-06-2007, 12:07 PM
I am a protestant we have some different views on the sex issues compared to Catholics.I have never came on a stripper before.Nothing has actually protruded out on to a stripper.I really appreciate your knowledge Kitty into the clubs.

kaiarose
12-06-2007, 12:07 PM
I don't like getting guys off BUT I do like it when they "enjoy" my dances. I hate giving a dance to a guy and he doesn't get hard. I feel like my dances suck or something. But I wouldn't want him cumming in his pants. Weak. I know my dances aren't THAT good. I used to have this sorta reg come in, he was like 23, and he'd get two dances from me everytime he came in. I could always count on him coming in his pants at the end of the second dance. I got so good at knowing when he was just about to go that I got up fast enough to avoid the blow. There were a few times in the beginning when I didn't realize that this was going to be a constant thing that I forgot to get up. 100 baby wipes and a few gags later, I was better!

Lapaholic
12-06-2007, 12:11 PM
<snip>

And by the way, God wouldn't approve of you splooging all over strippers.

LOL... Anyone interested in starting a splooge friendly religion ... The Strip Club is our church and strippers are the priestesses. Im diggin this. Then my "contribution" to the "church" will be tax deductible. And the strippers income will be tax free.

The Church of Late Nite Sploogers

Do I hear an Amen ?

( Squirt in the name of the lord!!! )

CORRY20
12-06-2007, 12:13 PM
I like you Lapaholic your funny

kitty260
12-06-2007, 12:15 PM
I got so good at knowing when he was just about to go that I got up fast enough to avoid the blow. There were a few times in the beginning when I didn't realize that this was going to be a constant thing that I forgot to get up. 100 baby wipes and a few gags later, I was better!

I almost got it once too but thankfully he'd paid up front so I jumped up and took off.

Did he at least tip you for it?