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XxAmber89xX
03-02-2008, 04:40 PM
it's really quite simple for me:

I don't ever date guys that are looking to date a stripper.

Sh0t
03-02-2008, 05:19 PM
Djoser: there are women in other fields besides that post office homie. Female policeoffiers, females in the military, female corrections officers, etc. They all encounter some pretty scary men at times.

ColetteCalahan
03-02-2008, 05:24 PM
I actually agree with sh0t. :D

Think about it: women may or may not have to deal with harassment in their jobs, some more than others, but if you're a secretary and your boss makes insidious snide sexual remarks all the time, you can't do too much other than take it to HR.

strippers get to tell the assholes to fuck off. and i think that's fantastic. ;D so yeah, we may get it more, but we also have more say in how we handle it.

Djoser
03-03-2008, 03:00 AM
I actually agree with sh0t. :D

Think about it: women may or may not have to deal with harassment in their jobs, some more than others, but if you're a secretary and your boss makes insidious snide sexual remarks all the time, you can't do too much other than take it to HR.

strippers get to tell the assholes to fuck off. and i think that's fantastic. ;D so yeah, we may get it more, but we also have more say in how we handle it.

Sure, but secretaries don't wear g-strings, and they don't grind on the erections of random guys coming into the office, nor do they shake their naked asses within inches of the guys' faces. Big difference.

This is about as far from being a 'typical' career as you can get.

To be sure, women have to deal with sexual harassment almost everywhere they go, to some extent--but the shit guys pull on the women in stripclubs on a nightly basis would land them in jail for sexual assault, attempted rape, lewd and lascivious behavior, indecent exposure, etc., etc.

Not only are they allowed to get away with it, they are actually encouraged to behave in (what would outside the club be) criminal behavior, by the DJ, by the dancers, by bouncers, and by management.

Female police officers, correction officers, and women in combat represent an extremely tiny proportion of the female population. So that is not a refutation of my point, which is that stripping requires no ordinary, 'typical' female personality.


And sorry, but the 'typical' guy simply cannot handle the thought of 'his' girlfriend coming anywhere near another mans penis, much less grinding on the erections of at least a dozen men a night, while whispering in their ear and listening to lengthy descriptions of their sexual prowess, what they could do to her that the boyfriend cannot, shaking her ass within inches of their faces, etc.

The typical guy will either go ballistic and start attacking the guys in question, cry like a baby, go catatonic, pack his shit and leave immediately, whatever.


But get this, I ordered Chinese food tonight at work, and my fortune said:

"You have a heart of gold"

I kid you not! Whatever the fuck the gods meant by that, I have no idea...

jaizaine
03-03-2008, 06:59 AM
^^
well said djoser!

xdamage
03-03-2008, 09:03 AM
But get this, I ordered Chinese food tonight at work, and my fortune said:

"You have a heart of gold"

I kid you not! Whatever the fuck the gods meant by that, I have no idea...


HAHAHA... love it.

Katrine
03-03-2008, 11:40 AM
Both Djoser and Sh0t give compelling arguments. I must say though, that since I quit stripping, my opinion of men has dramatically improved. And I don't work in an industry where harrassment is tolerated.

xoxoGracexoxo
03-03-2008, 05:38 PM
And again, my favorite phrase, you rarely date a stripper anyway. When she's at home with you, she's not a stripper currently.

Word! The only way to "date a stripper" is to be a sugar-daddy who can pay her to look and act like a stripper all the time. Short of that, you have to put up with dating a woman who works as a stripper for a living. How disappointing. ::)

For what it's worth, there have been four men in my life who have been absolute and total catnip to me. Only one of them was good-looking -- and he was amazing, like a Greek statue. Two were shorter than me. One had a gimp leg, walked with a cane, and never left his house. One was a truckdriver. Each of them drove me completely crazy in his own way, and I'll probably still be dreaming about them when I'm snoozing over my oatmeal in the old folk's home.

If I knew what the four of them had in common, I would bottle it and bathe in it, but attraction is very hard to pin down. Both for women who strip and for women who don't. But "muscle-headed pretty boys"? Please. If it were only that simple.

Djoser
03-03-2008, 06:19 PM
I absolutely agree with Sh0t on that point, at least, it must be said. Or I wouldn't last long dating many strippers, which is all I've dated since becoming a DJ. OTOH, if they do start dancing for me at home, I don't tell them to stop, lol.

xoxstarlet
03-03-2008, 06:24 PM
I strip and I date nice guys and bad boys. I've never dated a male stripper however. I know very few strippers (women) who've dated male strippers.

Djoser
03-03-2008, 07:18 PM
Male strippers are so typical, but they hate girls with hearts of gold...

;D

Joking. That's enough controversy for me today anyway, between this and the stupid DJ argument, lol.

It's time to go party...

undressjess
03-04-2008, 06:47 AM
I honestly have never seen a stripper dating a muscle ridden tanned guy. I personally just date the guys I am attracted to, and I am not attracted to guys like that.

Djoser
03-04-2008, 07:17 AM
I've seen all the stereotypes in full effect, in Daytona. Muscleboys, drug dealers, ignorant punks, guys taking all the money and beating the shit out of them, you name it.

Fortunately, even if I were inclined to be so short-sighted as to judge all stripper boyfriends from that experience, there are the exceptional women of SW to bely the myth.

Sh0t
03-04-2008, 07:49 AM
In my experience, I have been one of the more 'macho' guys I've seen dancers date. I tend to see them more with the art fag type, to borrow the phrase used here earlier.

I see that all over San Diego in general. That style is 'in' right now for ladies. The muscular types are in the sausage-fest bars cursing about the lack of women.

My only request re:stripper-girlfriend is to see them in similar shoes, I've never asked them for dances at home or anything. I let them keep their alter-ego intact if I can help it.

The three dancers I'm closest to currently I've never seen at work or even stripper dressed in any capacity outside of seeing them try on something at a store or showing me a new top at their place or something.

Mastridonicus
03-04-2008, 08:25 AM
I've seen all the stereotypes in full effect, in Daytona. Muscleboys, drug dealers, ignorant punks, guys taking all the money and beating the shit out of them, you name it.

Fortunately, even if I were inclined to be so short-sighted as to judge all stripper boyfriends from that experience, there are the exceptional women of SW to bely the myth.

With all due respect, I see a lot of women who don't have to grind for their jobs, or make money hoping that the allure of sexuality can gross at 20/dance wind up with the same kind of guys.

Granted stripping has a lot of risks to personal health that a lot of jobs don't have but one benefit it gives women as a job is to think on their feet, be smart, strong, and capable of handling some of the worst life has to offer. The way they make their money, in essence, is a lesson on survival. In the "Private Sector" there are many women who's whole lives and lifestyles hang on the shoestring of making numbers at the end of a month.

The fact is, though we are in the industry and we seek to favor the courage of the stripper based on what her real risks, keep in mind that risk is relative to the person working within them before judging the person.. It takes a strong person to understand that life's risks and problems aren't about seeing who's is bigger, it's understanding how big it is to the person it's affecting.

As the brilliant Mrs. Callahan pointed out, if a female manager gets a snide sexual comment from her subordinate she can CHOOSE to take it to HR and that subordinate's whole LIFE is in her hands. Potentially the life of his kids, wife, future employment... Imagine the stress THAT creates.

All I am saying, is that as long as the Jobs are about choice, the Risks are going to be relative and we should respect that. Typical to the personality types it takes to perform the job.

Jenny
03-04-2008, 08:35 AM
As the brilliant Mrs. Callahan pointed out, if a female manager gets a snide sexual comment from her subordinate she can CHOOSE to take it to HR and that subordinate's whole LIFE is in her hands. Potentially the life of his kids, wife, future employment... Imagine the stress THAT creates.
Only if you are assuming that for a first offence someone is fired, which is generally not something that happens. There is usually a form of graduating discipline/retraining for those sexual harassment and hostility cases that are successful and taken seriously.


All I am saying, is that as long as the Jobs are about choice, the Risks are going to be relative and we should respect that. Typical to the personality types it takes to perform the job.
I don't actually understand this. Can you clarify what you mean here?

Mastridonicus
03-04-2008, 08:37 AM
In my experience, I have been one of the more 'macho' guys I've seen dancers date. I tend to see them more with the art fag type, to borrow the phrase used here earlier.

Why does it always have to be an insult with you? You say something intelligent and you throw a cavalier insult in in the middle, just really reeks of the neg hit reaction shit Dave Deangelo and the like talk about.

Maybe I'm just the artsy fag type. QUICK! PUT SOMETHING IN MY ASS. Ahhhhh charcoal pencils... just the right texture.


I see that all over San Diego in general. That style is 'in' right now for ladies. The muscular types are in the sausage-fest bars cursing about the lack of women.

My only request re:stripper-girlfriend is to see them in similar shoes, I've never asked them for dances at home or anything. I let them keep their alter-ego intact if I can help it.

The three dancers I'm closest to currently I've never seen at work or even stripper dressed in any capacity outside of seeing them try on something at a store or showing me a new top at their place or something.


This is paramount regardless of the job titles of the relationships. Without quantifying my experience or ability to speak from knowing so many strippers personally, I will say that a relationship is, in all cases, about you and what you want. If a stripper has a boyfriend, it is safe to assume that at some point, that boyfriend is what she wanted despite how things may be NOW.

As soon as the guy starts to act in a way that turns her off certain procedures should be taken to fix or leave the relationship based upon the change. And the fact is, some people just grow apart.

I will agree that it takes a different type of "Man" to date a stripper, but I don't see that type of "Man" as anything special, because I truly I feel bad for the kind of guy who's placed their jealousy above their trust in the relationship, it's typically a symptom of bigger issues. And that issue, as Djoser has pointed out, is typically rooted in a certain amount control in the relationship mainly built on the expectation of the label it's attached to. "Married means no extra marital sexual activity and the like"

Saying that a guy who can date a "Stripper" is special is just as bad as saying Strippers are some type of woman with special needs in their relationship.

If men and women worked to be self-sufficient, confident, and secure in themselves enough to have their own goals in life that did not rest on the involvement of the people in their lives, relationships would be far easier.

Mastridonicus
03-04-2008, 08:45 AM
Only if you are assuming that for a first offence someone is fired, which is generally not something that happens. There is usually a form of graduating discipline/retraining for those sexual harassment and hostility cases that are successful and taken seriously.


Don't know about canada , but tolerating sexual harassment in any case I've seen are often met with huge lawsuits against the corporation and even made a local example of. Even if it IS a graduation to being terminated, in terms of sexual harassment, the offender is scared shitless while the corporation makes up his mind, even if what was said was totally misunderstood and a mistake.



I don't actually understand this. Can you clarify what you mean here?

We don't HAVE to be strippers, business owners, dj's, accountants, or forklift operators. We choose to, even if the reasons we choose to basically constitute being forced to (ex. Even though he was laid off two weeks before retirement he chose a job at Walmart to support his family on a NOW-MEAGER lever). As long as that's the case, I find it judgmental to cast someone's fear of their own risks aside simply because it could be worse.

It could be worse, but maybe not to them right now.

Sh0t
03-04-2008, 08:53 AM
I was using the term from earlier in the thread. I mean, I even said it in the part you quoted. Had nothing to do with you or any DeAngelo nonsense.


And again, strippers(and the guys who date them) are nothing special because of stripping. They were probably special people before stripping if they are special.

Jenny
03-04-2008, 08:56 AM
Don't know about canada , but tolerating sexual harassment in any case I've seen are often met with huge lawsuits against the corporation and even made a local example of. Even if it IS a graduation to being terminated, in terms of sexual harassment, the offender is scared shitless while the corporation makes up his mind, even if what was said was totally misunderstood and a mistake.
"Graduating discipline" is not the same as "tolerating" sexual harassment or hostility. While you cannot "tolerate" it, it doesn't mean that one is required to dismiss an employee on a first allegation or even that it would be considered appropriate. Of course - this is fact specific. An employee with an objectionable poster in his locker would likely be told to take it down and told why it is inappropriate; an employee who denied someone a raise because of gender would be dealt with more harshly and more aggressively retrained.


We don't HAVE to be strippers, business owners, dj's, accountants, or forklift operators. We choose to, even if the reasons we choose to basically constitute being forced to (ex. Even though he was laid off two weeks before retirement he chose a job at Walmart to support his family on a NOW-MEAGER lever). As long as that's the case, I find it judgmental to cast someone's fear of their own risks aside simply because it could be worse.

It could be worse, but maybe not to them right now.
Okay - I get the first part - people makes choices, but not always from an infinite variety of viable choices. The underlined part is still confusing me though.

Mastridonicus
03-04-2008, 08:59 AM
And again, strippers(and the guys who date them) are nothing special because of stripping. They were probably special people before stripping if they are special.

Special implies that they have some feature/ability other men can't possess. Though it is true that other men may not be able to date a stripper for reasons they have, or whatnot, the specialness is nothing like the "achievement" so many people try to give it.

Like I should have a college-esque certificate on my wall signed by the SW Mod's stating that I'm certified to date a stripper :P

All it is is a guy who has something else or something better to do than worry about what his girlfriend does in a VIP room or in the office mainly because the communication is there between the two that allows for that trust.

Mastridonicus
03-04-2008, 09:01 AM
Okay - I get the first part - people makes choices, but not always from an infinite variety of viable choices. The underlined part is still confusing me though.

If you have friends that aren't strippers.... Do they tell you about their relationship problems? If so, do you verbally or secretly resenting them because you believe they have it easier than you to date? OR Do you accept that these are her problems, have nothing to do with you, and are justifiable to her because she's her own person?

Sh0t
03-04-2008, 09:04 AM
Why not, people get those "Army Wife" stickers to show the world they are capable of cheating when their husbands are away. Why not "Stripper Husband"?

Address the first part of my post. You keep throwing these subliminals at me, I'm wondering if I should feel insulted.

Mastridonicus
03-04-2008, 09:10 AM
Why not, people get those "Army Wife" stickers to show the world they are capable of cheating when their husbands are away. Why not "Stripper Husband"?

Address the first part of my post. You keep throwing these subliminals at me, I'm wondering if I should feel insulted.

I just didn't see where "art fag" was before that post. If it was placed before that comment, I apologize. If not, then I think your comment would have been strengthened by simply not using the term. It was unnecessary in any case and took away from a strong point.

My other comment was to be funny about it, because it DOES look like I'm taking offense to it, and I am artsy fagg-ish, but I didn't want it to be about that so I made light of it.

Djoser
03-04-2008, 09:26 AM
With all due respect, I see a lot of women who don't have to grind for their jobs, or make money hoping that the allure of sexuality can gross at 20/dance wind up with the same kind of guys...etc., etc.

OK, sorry--I didn't get what you were getting at in your apparent reply to this:


I've seen all the stereotypes in full effect, in Daytona. Muscleboys, drug dealers, ignorant punks, guys taking all the money and beating the shit out of them, you name it.

Fortunately, even if I were inclined to be so short-sighted as to judge all stripper boyfriends from that experience, there are the exceptional women of SW to bely the myth.

Were you disagreeing somehow, as your use of the term 'with all due respect' implies??


The way they make their money, in essence, is a lesson on survival.

That's the one thing I did make sense out of, though it doesn't seem in opposition to anything I have said before. I agree.


The fact is, though we are in the industry...

Did you start stripping, lol? You are a DJ or bouncer now, maybe? Somehow actually working in the industry? Is this Rose White posting?

Sorry, the whole post doesn't make much sense.

Djoser
03-04-2008, 09:37 AM
In my experience, I have been one of the more 'macho' guys I've seen dancers date. I tend to see them more with the art fag type, to borrow the phrase used here earlier.

I see that all over San Diego in general. That style is 'in' right now for ladies. The muscular types are in the sausage-fest bars cursing about the lack of women.

My only request re:stripper-girlfriend is to see them in similar shoes, I've never asked them for dances at home or anything. I let them keep their alter-ego intact if I can help it.



Actually, much as Sh0t and I have 'bickered and argued'* in the past, I laughed like hell when I read that.

But I'm an artist, and made my living that way for years--so I suppose if anyone can laugh, it should be me. Unfortunately I was an artist in Daytona, where the type is at the low end of the desirability scale. Shoulda gone to San Diego, I suppose! But now I'm too muscular too qualify, and I haven't drawn anything in a year, lol.

I guess I'll just stay here, then.

It should be said, though, that there are a lot of dancers who relish getting all dressed up and putting on a show at home--so long as you don't fucking ask them to do it. If they want to be egged on in that aspect of their personalities, as my girlfriend, I will gladly comply. But other than that, yeah, treat them as you would any other woman, at home.

*Monty Python reference

Mastridonicus
03-04-2008, 11:04 AM
OK, sorry--I didn't get what you were getting at in your apparent reply to this:

Hmmm I was taking your response that the women in the field of stripping all encounter this type of man simply because they are strippers....perhaps I misread?


Were you disagreeing somehow, as your use of the term 'with all due respect' implies??


Maybe not. I just understood your post as to somehow say that the men you described are presumed to be A) interested in strippers simply for labelsake and B) treat women like shit except in the very mild one-in-million off-chance.

But in the re-read, I think I see what you meant, and in that case I agree.



Did you start stripping, lol? You are a DJ or bouncer now, maybe? Somehow actually working in the industry? Is this Rose White posting?


Gotta tell you, sir, that came across pretty condescending. And there was no real need to call RoseWhite out like that or involve her at all?



Sorry, the whole post doesn't make much sense.

Well, it doesn't make much sense, or you're confused if I'm opposing your point of view. Based on your reply it seems it does make sense you were just confused as to why I was saying I was disagreeing while agreeing? I accept misreading you, though based on your challenge to my ability to provide constructive information on industry related topics based on your belief that I am not in the industry, I'd say you're just saying it doesn't make any sense because it's me posting it.

But if it IS still confusing, I'd be happy to clear it up if it's something you're genuinely interested in understanding.

Jenny
03-04-2008, 11:13 AM
What do you do in the industry, mast? I'm just curious - I still might condescend - I'm not making any promises, and I actually don't believe that being peripherally connected to the industry generally gives you such a better understanding of the universal stripper mind set - but I am now curious.

Jenny
03-04-2008, 11:27 AM
^^
I don't actually understand - you mentioned that you were "in the industry"; I'm curious about what you do. So far as I can see, nobody put on "on the table" but you.

Sh0t
03-04-2008, 11:41 AM
8 inches of experience in the industry

Katrine
03-04-2008, 11:52 AM
Did someone hijack Mast's account? This is unlike him.

Jenny
03-04-2008, 12:36 PM
I think Djoser was wondering if what you meant by "we're in the industry" was that your SO was in the industry. I can't see how he was denigrating to RoseWhite.
Mast - most of us who have been here a while had the idea that you did something with computers unrelated to stripping; we thought your connection was as a customer. If you're going to break out the "I'm in the industry so I know things about the industry" card - you have to expect people to wonder what-how-when. And obviously - "I'm in the industry so I know things, but the capacity in which I work is secret" seems a little suspect. So let us say: Mast is unwilling to divulge what, if anything, he does in the stripclub industry. We will all take from that what we will and move on.

Alia_of_the_Knife
03-04-2008, 12:49 PM
This is definatly one of the most hilarious and brilliant threads that I've seen in awhile. I needed this.

Lunarobverse
03-04-2008, 01:57 PM
I can't believe it!

Mast apparently went and deleted all his posts in this thread!

What. The. Hell?!

I mean, it was a bit odd that he kept editing his posts to get rid of the stuff he thought was "derailing" his point. But... daaaaaaamn.

Jenny
03-04-2008, 02:00 PM
Okay. I KNOW I said move it along. I'm about to get irritable and free with the delete button.

hockeybobby
03-04-2008, 02:15 PM
Ok...nothing to worry about people...the Thread Killer is here. ;D
hb

WiseGuy_TX
03-04-2008, 05:00 PM
Do all strippers date muscle-heaad pretty boys who spend more time on their hair than most women? Or do you lovely ladies ever give the average guy with the heart of gold a try? (I'm an average guy with a heart of gold......and portions of tin and chewing gum)...the operative word being "all" then the answer is "no" which should be obvious. I have stripper friends in their upper 30's/early 40's who are married to a national grocery store manager and small business owner, with kids, living an upper middle class life. I think the husbands could be the centerfold for fugly magazine.

MAST - i agree and understood your opinion about "being relative". I was about to post the same thing 3 days ago.

sexystar
03-07-2008, 02:35 AM
Me personally I prefer the avg guy someone who is really down to earth not into the fast life has a great understanding of what he wants and how to get it and is trying his best. I'm into looks yes because i have mercy for my future children lol but not to the point where im too picky or would choose looks over personality or someone who looks good but treats me like crap or is dumb.

You must be my type i must find you attractive
you must know what you want in life and have goals
you can work at mcdonalds as long as your lets say doing it to help you pay for college because you want to actually do something greater with your life
you know how to treat me
have a good sense of street smarts book smarts and common sense
then your the man for me
even if you 5'10 130 scrawny you can be my man:)

ajbaer
03-07-2008, 05:51 AM
walter1970, as one guy to another, this question, in general, is one that has been asked and answered many many times, by the ladies of this board both online and in person, as well as dancers the world 'round.

And specifically, I have to say that the way you've phrased the question indicates a built-in bias on your part that does you no favors, both in how you describe the boyfriends and yourself, as well as underlying assumptions about what "strippers" like.

You can't jump in and assume that all strippers have anything in common other than their job. And if the one dancer who hurt you dated "muscle-heaad pretty boys who spend more time on their hair than most women"... you shouldn't take that as anything but one drop in a very big ocean.

That being said... Oh, man. I'm cooking up some popcorn.
I love your response....I love you you...

BlueBoxers
03-11-2008, 07:37 PM
I was seeing a 21 year old stripper during 2007 off and on who had a BF (rotating her with a 29 yo waitress). She was not the top girl on my roster but when he was in jail for a couple of months it was a lot more fun as she was not worried about him catching on. You will find a lot of stripper BF are bikers or other sorts of supposedly tough guys. But when stripper BF end up in jail, you can make your move. Work out, get some biker clothes - read a few biker mags and learn the lingo plus show them some green. Mr nice guy does not cut it with a lot of women - I have even seen gals go back to the same loser who beat them into an inch of their life. Tell them your hobby is hunting instead of reading science fiction. Don't let them think you are nerdy or that yer not getting any. The biggest mistake is to tell a striper you are a virgin.

Fairbay
03-12-2008, 04:36 PM
Me personally I prefer the avg guy someone who is really down to earth not into the fast life has a great understanding of what he wants and how to get it and is trying his best. I'm into looks yes because i have mercy for my future children lol but not to the point where im too picky or would choose looks over personality or someone who looks good but treats me like crap or is dumb.

I liked this answer - seems really genuine. In my life experience with attractive women, it's been true. How about this: a guy who's not nervous or weird, either? Wouldn't that be novel? Or even this: a guy with personal standards! :O

sexysunny
03-12-2008, 11:34 PM
Do all strippers date muscle-heaad pretty boys who spend more time on their hair than most women? Or do you lovely ladies ever give the average guy with the heart of gold a try? (I'm an average guy with a heart of gold......and portions of tin and chewing gum)


no. we all date firemen. that's how we started the whole ''pole'' thing.

dancersrights
03-13-2008, 03:52 PM
I was with benjamin last night.........yum yum yum

Perry
03-13-2008, 05:09 PM
Do all strippers date muscle-heaad pretty boys who spend more time on their hair than most women? Or do you lovely ladies ever give the average guy with the heart of gold a try? (I'm an average guy with a heart of gold......and portions of tin and chewing gum)

My guy is sweet as pie and dorky as hell. He's gorgeouse, but he's very low maitnence and completely obliviouse to how fuck-alicious he is. He works out, but he's still a glasses wearing engineer who reads those science-fiction-fantasy books with dragons on them.

delbertsan
03-19-2008, 12:03 PM
Yeah, I can't say that I know a lot of strippers who have super hot boyfriends. Mine is adorable, but he is also really nerdy with glasses, and he's too skinny. (Oh, and he also doesn't walk around talking about how nice he is.) I think strippers are just like regular women, aside from the obvious. Some of us date self-involved cookie-cutter ken dolls, and some of us don't.

sneaking_id
04-03-2008, 09:08 AM
Dude? Calling yourself an "average" guy is automatically failure with women.

Women want to know that you aren't average. Otherwise, there are exactly 3 billion other guys just like you on this Earth. You mean nothing if you are average.

Women want to see you excel at something. Really anything. I used to be awash in ass when I worked on-site tech support. Women are impressed by anything you excel at doing. I'm probably a bit better looking and more articulate than your average geek, but hey...

Really, you can't blame 'em. What's the point of breeding if you can sneak in a few upgrades?

Ultimately it cooks down to this. You play the cards you're dealt, sure. Women want to know if you can play them well.

SundayMorning
04-03-2008, 09:16 AM
*applauds* Very well said, sir.

daisyraven13
02-13-2009, 01:57 AM
wow!!! not to be mean an i hope no one is offended by my observation and opinion. but after reading the above statements im shocked! most of those answers are exactly why we strippers get the negative, stereo typed lables we often get. to the guy who originally asked the question about strippers boyfriends... i personally feel the complete oposit of every thing stated above. ive been a dancer for over 6years now and i find that those beautiful, flawless, body builder type guys are the ones who are posessive, users, and because there "so pretty" them selves i dont think they do treat there girls with respect or value them very much at all! My boyfriend is very average (he is def. not a Ken doll thats for sure) more like a larry the cable guy doll but you know what for the first time in my life Im truely happy and secure in a relationship with someone who loves me as much as i love them and he dosent have any hair so i dont have to worry about him taking longer than i do to get ready. no but seriously girls w.t.f what we do is a job. thats all when im not at work im not a stripper anymore. like i said before just my opinion no offence intended.

saphire123456
02-13-2009, 02:36 AM
uh, thanks....10 months later

undressjess
02-13-2009, 11:00 AM
uh, thanks....10 months later
Hahahaha!