View Full Version : who should realy be able to vote?
Melonie
02-08-2008, 04:44 PM
^^^ again, I (as in me personally) am not saying anything. What I am doing is reporting the position of America's founding fathers in regard to voter eligibility ... and their reasoning in setting up voter eligibility as they did.
As far as my personal opinion goes, how about this. Every citizen of the USA should be allowed to vote ... PROVIDED that doing so does not represent an ethical conflict of interest.
Melonie
02-09-2008, 01:22 PM
^^^ well, since the institution of the progressive income tax in 1913, and the institution of social welfare programs and gov't funded 'make work' jobs in 1933, YES ! That's precisely why a true democracy is doomed to self-destruct eventually.
Deogol
02-11-2008, 07:52 PM
^^^ well, since the institution of the progressive income tax in 1913, and the institution of social welfare programs and gov't funded 'make work' jobs in 1933, YES ! That's precisely why a true democracy is doomed to self-destruct eventually.
I would say without those programs the country would have self-destructed. It was pretty obvious we were going down the drain. When one has an encampment of soldiers in D.C. demanding payment - well - thats not a good thing.
Now if those programs should have continued is a different question.
DJ Machismo
02-12-2008, 10:26 AM
Every time I watch Starship Troopers, it makes me wonder what the US would be like if only those who served in the military could vote.
Melonie
02-12-2008, 03:27 PM
^^^ I'd be happy enough if only those who were US citizens could vote !!!
Deogol
02-12-2008, 03:39 PM
^^^ I'd be happy enough if only those who were US citizens could vote !!!
HA HA HA! Man if that ain't the truth.
Laws for land owners are fine and great until one gets Jim Crow laws or some shit like that.
This is why I think everyone needs a vote.
Jay Zeno
02-12-2008, 07:01 PM
Every time I watch Starship Troopers, it makes me wonder what the US would be like if only those who served in the military could vote.The (fictitious) results were much better in the book than the movie.
The (fictitious) results were much better in the book than the movie.
Star Ship Troopers (the book) is one of my all time favorites :)
FBR
Richard_Head
02-12-2008, 08:44 PM
Star Ship Troopers (the book) is one of my all time favorites :)
FBRForget the book, see the movie, Denise Richards, Dina Meyer, hubba hubba!
Forget the book, see the movie, Denise Richards, Dina Meyer, hubba hubba!
RH I like the movie. Felt like I was playing Doom zapping all the bugs :) Plus I agree on the titillation }:D But I am an old school Heinlein fan. He injected a lot of political commentary into his fiction.
FBR
Jay Zeno
02-13-2008, 06:22 AM
The book created a (believe it or not) conservative socialist one-government world, where everyone had economic well-being under a benign elective government that was voted on by those who had earned the right to vote through government (not just military) service.
The movie didn't like that approach and made it a fascist dictatorship instead.
cinammonkisses
02-14-2008, 04:30 PM
I don't believe in disenfranchising felons because a) the racist roots of the practice, b) the history of misuse, and c) I believe in rehabilitation. I don't write people off for mistakes they have made in the past. Certainly not as citizens of the Republic.
Right on!!