View Full Version : Bartenders/waitresses giving LDs?
PhillyDancer1982
02-14-2008, 12:44 PM
Hmmm a lot of people are going to hate me here but...I'll admit, at my club the servers and bartenders ARE allowed to do dances and champagne rooms. I've done a few, and so have the others. HOWEVER, we are not allowed to solicit or hustle dances. We are only allowed to do them if the customer specifically asks for us. I don't mind this rule too much, since I'm not a salesperson or good hustler anyway. Also, we are only allowed to do dances in the more expensive room, which cuts down on the people that are interested in doing dances.
I realize that I am there to serve and not dance, so on the rare occasion that somebody requests me for a dance and I oblige, I will also suggest a dancer that would be great for the customer to try out later. Sometimes I will also try to entice the guy to get a 3some dance, too. Basically I try to include the dancers so that they do not feel that I am cutting into their money. I'm sure this whole thing might still sound annoying to you guys, but I just wanted to say that I try to be inclusive about it and not cutthroat.
Bridgette
02-14-2008, 01:31 PM
nope. but when i dance i don't have to pull the passed out girls out of the bathroom or clean the bar 4 an hour after closing or mope up vomit,spilled drinks, and broken glass all night. try looking sexy while mopping vomit. it's fair here.
You're not supposed to look sexy while mopping vomit, because you're a WAITRESS. The STRIPPERS are supposed to look sexy ;D
I have to ask though. You're giving me the impression that you don't dance and waitress at the same time - that you dance some nights and waitress some nights. That's all fine and good I think. If you're not doing laps and VIPS on the same nights you're waitressing, no problem, but if you're mixing the two on the same nights, it's unfair no matter how you slice it.
cameron_keys
02-14-2008, 01:49 PM
^^ yep
CherryBomb954
02-14-2008, 03:02 PM
As if last night couldn't get any worse, I had a guy at the stage that was actually paying attention to me, and waitress hustled him away from the stage!!!
Isn't that a SC mortal sin?!?! I was so pissed and wanted to say something to her about it but
A.) She had the fucker in the CR for the rest of the night and
B.) I didn't need the drama. I am under the microscope for supposedly "being mean" to girls....haha
Hustling customers away from the stage is fucked up. The fact it was a waitress made it even worse. They were the only ones making money last night. It's like hey there, greedy bitch..... you think you could leave some of them around so us dancers have a shot at making money too? Damn.
Alaska
02-14-2008, 04:38 PM
^Ugh. How appalling that it gets so out of control like that. I had no idea it's that bad in some clubs, wow. Or even that it's going on SO much and so aggressively. Only makes sense I guess when you give someone an inch and all that, that it can really get out of control.
I have no idea why these girls waitress and not dance!!! I waitressed bc in no way did I want to be a dancer, didn't become one till 2 years later and it had nothing to do with any waitressing in sc's I did. That customer actually eased and talked me thru doing a LD, I was so nervous that my legs were shaking HARD.
I would have just assumed this is usually the case---waitresses r waitresses bc they have no desire whatsoever to dance! :shrug: Arrrrg sez the pirate.
cameron_keys
02-14-2008, 04:50 PM
As if last night couldn't get any worse, I had a guy at the stage that was actually paying attention to me, and waitress hustled him away from the stage!!!
Isn't that a SC mortal sin?!?! I was so pissed and wanted to say something to her about it but
A.) She had the fucker in the CR for the rest of the night and
B.) I didn't need the drama. I am under the microscope for supposedly "being mean" to girls....haha
Hustling customers away from the stage is fucked up. The fact it was a waitress made it even worse. They were the only ones making money last night. It's like hey there, greedy bitch..... you think you could leave some of them around so us dancers have a shot at making money too? Damn.
That is beyond fucked up. I'd have thrown a damn FIT I tell you what...
PICK a damn job. Or waitress one night and dance another. DONT do both at once.
The ONLY time I see this as ok is if the dancer is having you join her and her custie. I"ve invited waitresses into CR's before because the guy was interested in her and there was no way he would take another dancer...he wanted HER...and bringing her in MADE me money(since I was there too). Or I've been with custies who asked waitresses or bartenders to flash them for tips and in my current club, they've always looked to me for approval first. IF I show that I"m ok with it..they'll do it..then tell the guy to tip me too. Showing a guy you all get along can make you more money.But ONLY as a team effort...do NOT hustle custies on your own for dances and shit
Zinaida
02-14-2008, 07:12 PM
^Ugh. How appalling that it gets so out of control like that. I had no idea it's that bad in some clubs, wow.
Me either. The club I'm at now has these two female bartenders that work the weekends and they both have huge tits and wear tiny tank-tops and the guys love it, but they're sweet chicks and they don't do dances or anything like that, not sure if they could. I can't imagine if they were competition for dances though, it would suck. I can't imagine it being that out of control. I would have to raise hell or leave. >:(
callilove
02-16-2008, 02:34 AM
I don't even have anything to add-
a couple of the waitresses/shotgirls at my club dance and you guys summed up exactly how much it pisses me off.
buffie06
02-16-2008, 02:57 AM
There was a waitress at my old club and we started out as friends, she was my favorite waitress but eventually became a little parasite when she found out how drunk guys found her attractive and would give her $$ to dance. She would pad the tab, get customers wasted, get them to buy me off stage and then want me to give her the cr with them (these customers i didnt even know- she hustled them but needed a dancers name for the ticket). She was 46, but still attractive enough to dance I would think,but she had really low self esteem. She got fired for padding one too many tabs and getting caught, swears to me she never did it, but she admits it when she drinks. Anyways, she asked me for a recommendation to waitress at my new club and I decided not to do it. I think I may have pissed her off , as I think a recommendation from someone who has worked there for awhile is req to get the job, but I know she probably still behaves the same way , if not worse by now.
PhillyDancer1982
02-17-2008, 09:24 AM
^ Yeah it's probably best you didn't give her the recommendation. I don't blame you at all...props for standing up for yourself and not buckling under her pressure to give her a fakely good recommendation! :)
I can't believe she would make you take time off stage so she could do the lapdances! Did you mind being taken off stage for a bit? From my experience, I didn't mind going on stage sometimes because it meant being able to collect more tips and kinda "advertise" yourself to customers who might be interested in later getting a dance from you...so I would be pissed if someone did that to me! Then again, there's other clubs where it's more worth your while to NOT go on stage, but I guess it all depends on your hustle and the type of club.
Aubreyyy
02-17-2008, 10:06 AM
I can comment from the other side of the fence.
I worked as a waitress, and we were allowed to go in the VIP/CR area. I got a CR at least once every day. I probably made a lot more than most of the girls there b/c of this.
BUTTTTT I had to walk around the floor in skimpy lingerie and heels. My shift pay was a whopping $12. Yeah, I didn't have to tip out, but I wasn't allowed to come and go as I pleased, I had a set shift (12-8). I also wasn't allowed to give dances on the floor, despite turning away at least $300 daily (by my calculations) from guys coming up to me and asking for them.
Do I think I was cheating anyone? No. Each position has its perks and its disadvantages. Did the girls hate me? Of course. But I really couldn't help that I was an attractive, smiling southern girl in a sea of middle aged Eastern Euro girls with blank stares their whole shift.
ETA- Another thing you guys should take into consideration is that most of the managers know that they can push the whole "for your eyes only" thing on guys by using the waitresses. Every CR I had was when I was basically pimped out by a manager. I was not allowed to turn down a CR.
AkashaM
02-18-2008, 03:48 AM
^^^ Yup. There's a really hot waitress at my club on the weekends and this customer has offered her $500 for a lapdance (and yes, he's serious). She won't do it, thankfully. He even offered her $1000 to get onstage and do a set but she still won't. I joked pointedly that I must be undercharging and he just shrugged. Fucker won't tip the dancers more than $5 onstage, of course, because we're not the Almighty Unattainable Waitress. If she were actually doing $500 lapdances I'd throw a bitch fit.
I dunno know about that one...I'd do it if i were the waitress, lol. but i would have enough smarts not to make a habit of shit like that.
when i worked in the BX, the club allowed anyone female to give dances & VIPS if the customer asked. I wasnt overly annoyed with it until there was a night with NO waitresses on the floor! The customers would complain about their empty glasses--AND LEAVE! Of course the dancers suffered.
another time, i was trying to find a waitress because glass had shattered on the stage (which also acts a table for the drinks and tipping rail). I see one who SAW what happend, but continued to chat with the custy. I went over there to tell her, she ignored me. I had to practically scream in her ear to get her to stop talking---she was trying to get a CR and didnt want to leave. She told me to go find another waitress to clean it up.
BITCH.
Fortunately the barback happend to pass and cleaned it up.
I dunno, in the end we need our bills paid; are the waitresses really gonna care what we think?
If was waitressing and a guy asked for a dance, Id say, "only in CR and at the TRIPLE the price. u wanna see these titties, it wont be cheap." if im gonna have all the dancers rready to kick my ass, at least i was paid well! hehehe}:D
Zofia
02-18-2008, 06:14 AM
What's the difference between waitressing in a strip club and dancing? About two weeks.
Morgan_TX
02-18-2008, 07:55 AM
But if you're not working and talking to every guy, and a bartender does, that's not her fault you didn't get that dance. I know it's irritating, and a little unfair, but if you're hustling as hard as you claim, you'd be too busy doing dances to notice her.
I noticed her because she was on the couch across from me in VIP most of the night.
gameover
02-18-2008, 08:44 AM
dancing waitress, mmm, sexy :)
ellebelle
02-18-2008, 08:47 AM
When I was bar staff and a guy wanted me to go for a dance, I would only do it if he booked X number of the regular dancers (at least 1 - one time I convinced a guy to book 6 girls for an hour + me).
Keeps the girls happy (They still make money) and I still got extra money too.
*At that club we didn't have a house fee, it was percentage based. I used to clock off my time card for the duration of the dance too.
cameron_keys
02-18-2008, 09:06 AM
^^^ Yup. There's a really hot waitress at my club on the weekends and this customer has offered her $500 for a lapdance (and yes, he's serious). She won't do it, thankfully. He even offered her $1000 to get onstage and do a set but she still won't. I joked pointedly that I must be undercharging and he just shrugged. Fucker won't tip the dancers more than $5 onstage, of course, because we're not the Almighty Unattainable Waitress. If she were actually doing $500 lapdances I'd throw a bitch fit.
I had ONE bartender do that. BUT...it was MY customer that offered it to her...$900 for one stage set. And he took out another grand for me....so I didnt lose anything(and knew I wouldnt..he just likes to do silly stuff like that). So I didnt mind...she didnt offer, she made sure it was ok with me first and we asked the manager if it was ok. Done like THAT...I'm ok with it. But the guy you are describing..fuck him. No money for the actual dancers, but ungodly amounts offered to the waitress....JUST because shes a waitress. Piss off dude. I'm SURE there are PLENTY of girls who would be unattainable for you outside the club...go bother them
shasta
02-18-2008, 11:15 AM
I can comment from the other side of the fence.
I worked as a waitress, and we were allowed to go in the VIP/CR area. I got a CR at least once every day. I probably made a lot more than most of the girls there b/c of this.
BUTTTTT I had to walk around the floor in skimpy lingerie and heels. My shift pay was a whopping $12. Yeah, I didn't have to tip out, but I wasn't allowed to come and go as I pleased, I had a set shift (12-8). I also wasn't allowed to give dances on the floor, despite turning away at least $300 daily (by my calculations) from guys coming up to me and asking for them.
Do I think I was cheating anyone? No. Each position has its perks and its disadvantages. Did the girls hate me? Of course. But I really couldn't help that I was an attractive, smiling southern girl in a sea of middle aged Eastern Euro girls with blank stares their whole shift.
ETA- Another thing you guys should take into consideration is that most of the managers know that they can push the whole "for your eyes only" thing on guys by using the waitresses. Every CR I had was when I was basically pimped out by a manager. I was not allowed to turn down a CR.
You weren't allowed to turn down a CR? That is crazy!
I don't know what I keep coming back to this thread. I could add horrible stories everyday. I know I am #1 bitch at my club to the waitresses who sit for free, etc. I just wish the the other dancers would complain like me, because it takes a village!
I love asking those stupid waitresses, "So, how much did they pay you to sit with them?"
Recently I saw a waitress sitting with a frequent hour long CR customer (with a different girl every time). A few minutes later I saw her getting dressed. I said, "oh, I thought you were gonna be in the CR with that guy." She says, "No, I am going out to the bars with them, I usually see them out." I give her a piece. Her reply, "I am so stupid."
2 nights ago there was a young guy who happened to be here on business and by himself. He was buying loads of dances on the floor from different girls. A waitress decided to sit with him for 3 hours. At the end of the night she was mad in the DR, "I only made 8 dollars." I was like, "Are you surprised? You were sitting with that guy all night. Ya know he was buyin dances." She was like, "Oh, he is my friend."
"Yeah, your friend whose here on business for the first time."
This is the same waitress who I danced for one night when she was a customer. I asked her why she does work much. Her response, "My daddy gives me money."
I could go on all day. They steal, they sell pills to custies and dancers, they interrupt me in the CR, AHHHH!
Aubreyyy
02-18-2008, 04:27 PM
^^ Just wondering...why do you think these girls are so stupid? B/c they're sitting for free?
I know when I just didn't feel like working out the rest of my shift, I could never go home. I had made enough money for the day, and would just go sit with one of my regulars that came every day and bought a CR. It meant a lot to him, he kept the drinks flowing, and my feet hurt lol. He'd massage them and we'd talk about stuff that ACTUALLY interested me. He wasn't paying me to sit there, and sometimes I'd be there for a while, but I don't consider myself "stupid" for it.
And yeah, I'm no longer at that club. The manager would pimp me out by saying "Aubrey is crazier than our dancers! You should go back with the craziest girl in the club" when I am a STRICT no extras girl.
Sophia_Starina
02-18-2008, 05:57 PM
^^ Just wondering...why do you think these girls are so stupid? B/c they're sitting for free?
I know when I just didn't feel like working out the rest of my shift, I could never go home. I had made enough money for the day, and would just go sit with one of my regulars that came every day and bought a CR. It meant a lot to him, he kept the drinks flowing, and my feet hurt lol. He'd massage them and we'd talk about stuff that ACTUALLY interested me. He wasn't paying me to sit there, and sometimes I'd be there for a while, but I don't consider myself "stupid" for it.
And yeah, I'm no longer at that club. The manager would pimp me out by saying "Aubrey is crazier than our dancers! You should go back with the craziest girl in the club" when I am a STRICT no extras girl.
I wouldn't call you stupid. I would be pretty peeved if I were a dancer at that club, tho.
The point is, if you are a waitress you shouldn't be sitting with a customer. If you're sitting with him, a dancer can't come up and try to sell dances, rooms etc. That creates more competition, spreads the customer base way thin, and annoys the be-jeezus out of strippers.
A waitresses job is to sell and bring drinks. If a guy wants company at a strip club he can spend some dough and compensate a gal who is there to sell company.... i.e. a dancer.
Both positions have their perks and downfalls. I think that when management blurs the lines between two distinct jobs, they create a mess.
Bridgette
02-18-2008, 07:37 PM
K, here's a question for you waitresses who thinks it's so fair to do both dancing and waitressing at once. The dancers PAY to work at the club. What they're paying for is, among other things, the right to come in and solicit the club's customers for business. Would YOU want to share the customer base you PAID FOR with people who aren't paying, and who technically aren't even supposed to be soliciting there??? I think not.
This would be like an employee at ebay offering your exact same product for sale with their ads on top of all listings for FREE, cutting into and devaluing your business, and then not even paying the ebay seller fees. No one in their right mind would think that is fair.
Yall can use any excuse you want to justify this UNFAIR practice in your minds, but at the end of the day it's still bullshit.
Aubreyyy
02-18-2008, 07:45 PM
^^^
No offense, but attitudes like yours really annoy me.
Many people on this board may agree with you, but at the end of the day "fair" and "unfair" are opinions. As in, there is no right one. Popular opinion is just that. Still just a point of view.
You and I have differing opinions. Not a big surprise. But what makes YOU think that your opinion is better than mine, and enough to call mine bullshit?
cameron_keys
02-18-2008, 07:50 PM
^^prob because your opinion doesnt lose YOU money...it only loses DANCERS money
Aubreyyy
02-18-2008, 08:09 PM
^^^^
Thats just the thing. My regular literally came to the strip club every day b/c I CALLED him. He would not have been there if it weren't for me asking him to come in, so how is anyone loosing money? I was getting paid for the legwork I put in...
Every situation is different. I can understand where you guys are coming from, but at the end of the day, every waitress isn't at the SC trying to fuck the dancers and take their opportunities.
cameron_keys
02-18-2008, 08:13 PM
^^^^
Thats just the thing. My regular literally came to the strip club every day b/c I CALLED him. He would not have been there if it weren't for me asking him to come in, so how is anyone loosing money? I was getting paid for the legwork I put in...
Every situation is different. I can understand where you guys are coming from, but at the end of the day, every waitress isn't at the SC trying to fuck the dancers and take their opportunities.
Well I dont think anyone said THAT. And the whole argument was waitresses/bartenders who hustle the custies for dances,etc....
And you said this wasnt the only one...that the managers made you do CR's....so thats money taken from a dancer who could have done it.(not that you had control over that particular situation)
stripperMBA
02-18-2008, 08:13 PM
. He wasn't paying me to sit there, and sometimes I'd be there for a while, but I don't consider myself "stupid" for itl.
Be they a dancer or a waitress it teaches customers to expect our time for free when we sit with them for no monetary compensation. No one can pay their bills with conversation and drinks. So do not let customers sucker you into giving them free time. Just because they drop a few hundred on a vip does not mean a dancer or waitress should feel obligated to sit with the customer for the next five to eight hours of her shift. It is a business. Not a social service for time wasters.
Aubreyyy
02-18-2008, 08:17 PM
^^^
If you read my post, you'd see that I never felt "obligated" to do it. I could either walk around the club and fight on the overstaffed floor to refill drinks, or sit down, chat up a custy, and rest the only way we can when we're on a chift.
ETA- I think it's funny that everyone thinks someone who just sits for free b/c they WANT to is a "sucker" or "stupid". Just b/c I CAN charge for it doesn't mean that I always will... I think I would even have felt weird charging to chat b/c I WASN'T a dancer.
Bridgette
02-18-2008, 08:23 PM
If the situation were reversed on you, I do 100% believe you'd feel cheated, at least a little. It's cool. Lots of people only have a sense of fairness when it benefits them. We understand.
Just, next time you feel cheated, remember all this and don't complain.
RoseWhite
02-18-2008, 08:32 PM
^^ Amen.
stripperMBA
02-18-2008, 08:45 PM
^^^
ETA- I think it's funny that everyone thinks someone who just sits for free b/c they WANT to is a "sucker" or "stupid". Just b/c I CAN charge for it doesn't mean that I always will... I think I would even have felt weird charging to chat b/c I WASN'T a dancer.
Sure you were not a dancer but you were still training a customer to expect something for nothing by giving free time. That was also time you could have spent working the floor, and thereby making more income.
Regardless I do think there should be a sharp line between dancers, and waitress. At one particular club I worked at in the past I was really annoyed with a particular waitress who sold outside services. She would keep customers sitting with her for hours and then drive off with them in her car after work. Another squatter waitress I knew would spend a good deal of time making out with customers. Despite my previous negative experiences I think that the system work best when waitresses cannot dance nor do anything dancers would not be allowed to do. Some of the smartest high income making waitresses I know work with the dancers not against them. Then in turn the waitress makes money from the dancers.
britt244
02-18-2008, 09:23 PM
If the situation were reversed on you, I do 100% believe you'd feel cheated, at least a little. It's cool. Lots of people only have a sense of fairness when it benefits them. We understand.
Just, next time you feel cheated, remember all this and don't complain.
i think this is so true. like i said, when i was a waitress, i gave a dance for $150 once. it didnt even occur to me that that wouldnt be fair. now, though, i'd sure as hell be annoyed at a girl for making that much when i make 20 bucks a pop.
Alaska
02-18-2008, 09:41 PM
^^^
If you read my post, you'd see that I never felt "obligated" to do it. I could either walk around the club and fight on the overstaffed floor to refill drinks, or sit down, chat up a custy, and rest the only way we can when we're on a chift.
ETA- I think it's funny that everyone thinks someone who just sits for free b/c they WANT to is a "sucker" or "stupid". Just b/c I CAN charge for it doesn't mean that I always will... I think I would even have felt weird charging to chat b/c I WASN'T a dancer.
You seem like you hated yr waitressing job so much, were comfortable giving lapdances.....so why weren't you a dancer? Didn't want to work hard, I guess. But you still don't see how sitting with a customer is taking that opportunity away from a dancer, and that it IS stupid not to charge for time chatting? I like how you pick and choose what dancer rules you can follow, just bc you aren't officially a dancer.
Bridgette
02-18-2008, 09:45 PM
Some of the smartest high income making waitresses I know work with the dancers not against them. Then in turn the waitress makes money from the dancers.Yes. Highest earning waitresses I ever met often made MORE than the dancers and they didn't do ANYthing but a good job waitressing. Working with each other rather than against always generates more money for all.
Sophia_Starina
02-18-2008, 09:47 PM
^^^
If you read my post, you'd see that I never felt "obligated" to do it. I could either walk around the club and fight on the overstaffed floor to refill drinks, or sit down, chat up a custy, and rest the only way we can when we're on a chift.
I've never danced at a club that was understaffed with dancers.
Even if there were 1,000 waitresses you still shouldn't be sitting with a custy. You aren't on a date. You are supposed to do your job and conduct yourself accordingly rather than make things more difficult for gals that have to tip out at the end of the shift.
Sorry, girlie, I can't agree with you. Maybe one day you'll see why so many dancers here are giving you a hard time.
Alaska
02-18-2008, 09:48 PM
^Oh I read it as "crowded" for some reason, and what bs that was when you have to walk around in heels serving drinks all night....why not take a load off, at the expense of everyone else?
Sophia_Starina
02-18-2008, 09:59 PM
ETA- I think it's funny that everyone thinks someone who just sits for free b/c they WANT to is a "sucker" or "stupid". Just b/c I CAN charge for it doesn't mean that I always will... I think I would even have felt weird charging to chat b/c I WASN'T a dancer.
You aren't a sucker or stupid. You are missing the point. As a waitress you shouldn't be sitting. I'm aware the club let you have the option to charge but you shouldn't have taken them up on it.
It's really about cake. Having it and eating it. Not cool.
buffie06
02-19-2008, 03:41 AM
^ Yeah it's probably best you didn't give her the recommendation. I don't blame you at all...props for standing up for yourself and not buckling under her pressure to give her a fakely good recommendation! :)
I can't believe she would make you take time off stage so she could do the lapdances! Did you mind being taken off stage for a bit? From my experience, I didn't mind going on stage sometimes because it meant being able to collect more tips and kinda "advertise" yourself to customers who might be interested in later getting a dance from you...so I would be pissed if someone did that to me! Then again, there's other clubs where it's more worth your while to NOT go on stage, but I guess it all depends on your hustle and the type of club.
I wasn't pissed about skipping stage, I make my money off stage. Plus we get comissions/passes for selling CRs.
buffie06
02-19-2008, 03:46 AM
(12-8). I also wasn't allowed to give dances on the floor, despite turning away at least $300 daily (by my calculations) from guys coming up to me and asking for them.
Why didnt you just dance then? Sounds like you could have made more money. What do you mean you couldn't turn down a CR? You were a waitress? hmm
shasta
02-19-2008, 04:05 AM
I feel like this thread really helps me let off some steam. Maybe I am thread jacking. But tonight, I would like to write about the waitress who does not wear a top. Her boobs are the biggest, perkiest, naturals I have ever seen. She likes to sit with young groups, drink, have a good time. No top, no money, just fun.
She was just given some coveted bartending shifts.
Tonight she tended bar. We had two bartenders so they took turns dancing for customers in the CR. She is moving up!
Aubreyyy
02-19-2008, 06:40 AM
To answer a few questions-
I didn't dance because I was new to the whole strip club scene, was a little nervous about dancing, and thought waitressing would be a better way to learn the way everything works without being flung into it headfirst.
Our floor was always overstaffed. I worked the day shift, and the only time that any of us would always be walking and filing orders was the last hour. They let any girl come in and work just come in, so some days we'd have a redic slow day and over 10 waitresses. Our club wasn't that big.... and the customers had a really good habit of going to the bar to get their own drink so they didn't have to tip a waitress every time. Literally, its one of the reason a lot of girls quit... sitting at the strip club for 8 hours and walking away with $50 wasn't anyone's idea of a good time.
And- I honestly felt bad when I was taking home $500 every day from going to the CR when the other girls were fighting each other for custies out on the floor. It was that bad. You'd see 2 of them both lock eyes on the same empty beer bottle and battle it out. I left the floor money to them.
And yes, I was NOT allowed to turn down a CR. I tried to one time, and in not so many words my manager told me they only had room for "team players" at their club. That, combined with the fact that they wouldn't let me cut a CR short when a guy kept grabbing my cookie and molesting me, is why I no longer work at any strip club.... maybe I got a bad impression of strip clubs form this place, but I cannot see myself going back after the experience I got there.
Bridgette
02-19-2008, 06:59 AM
^If the club was overstaffed with waitresses, you can absolutely be sure it was ALSO overstaffed with dancers. So it most certainly was even more unfair to have waitresses competing with dancers for CRs. And if other waitresses were "battling it out" to serve some dude a beer, you weren't leaving them any floor money by going to CR lol!
It sounds like you picked a bad club. Easy to do being new. There are MANY such places, but there are also many others where working conditions are better. If you ever consider going back to a strip club to work, I'd suggest a) go straight to dancing and b) do some research both here and at the clubs to find a better place.
Lysondra
02-19-2008, 07:19 AM
I'd be so mad if a waitress sat with the customer for free for hours. Yeah sure, you can say he took you to the CR once in awhile but it's not even about fair/unfair if a girl can't walk up to him... but how does it look when someone is getting HOURS of a woman's time for free to OTHER customers? Now I can't get YOUR guy to dance for me OR get the guy I'm with to dance for me without 'spending a lil more time first'. Thanks!
It's not even about fair/unfair with working conditions either. The point is you're benefiting at the expense of everyone else and don't care.
xoxoGracexoxo
02-19-2008, 09:56 AM
It's not even about fair/unfair with working conditions either. The point is you're benefiting at the expense of everyone else and don't care.
Actually, what's even worse is that they probably even aren't benefitting that much, since they're giving away so much time for free. Call me weird, but I'd rather compete with a waitress who is hustling than a waitress who is just sitting around. If the waitress is trying to sell dances for $150, that makes my $20 look affordable to a lot of guys. If a waitress is giving away time all freaking night, all of a sudden I look like a money-hungry harpy trying to push one damn lapdance. Waitresses giving time away bothers me WAY more than waitresses dancing.
shasta
02-19-2008, 10:50 AM
^^Yes:(
xoxoGracexoxo
02-19-2008, 11:42 AM
there was a night with NO waitresses on the floor! The customers would complain about their empty glasses--AND LEAVE! Of course the dancers suffered.
I had to practically scream in her ear to get her to stop talking---she was trying to get a CR and didnt want to leave. She told me to go find another waitress to clean it up.
. But tonight, I would like to write about the waitress who does not wear a top. Her boobs are the biggest, perkiest, naturals I have ever seen. She likes to sit with young groups, drink, have a good time. No top, no money, just fun.
Oh, man. At the beginning of this thread I was all for waitresses being allowed to dance. To be honest, I am considering going to waitressing myself...I'm tired of the contact and bullshit, and would like to have a job where I get to wear clothes for a little while. I won't lie, if a customer offers to pay me to sit with him, or offers me $150+ for a 1-song dance, I'd probably do it.
I've met plenty of customers over the years to whom dancers are pure shit, but they'll pay a waitress to go on vacation, get a boob job, whatever. Personally, if the money is in being unattainable these days, I can be unattainable all day long. So many other dancers have gotten all too attainable, and I don't really feel like competing.
But hearing from girls at clubs where naked waitresses are already the norm, it sounds like this trend is going downhill as fast as everything else. Dancers have given too much away and made it cheap, and now waitresses are scrambling to get in the same boat. Blah.
bebewood
02-19-2008, 09:36 PM
Now that you mentioned the nudity thing, it got me thinking, do you think you would make more if you left your top and bottom on on stage and used the line "if you buy a dance from me I'll show you my boobs" to get dances or CR? Someone should try this
Zinaida
02-19-2008, 10:12 PM
I was thinking about that throughout the whole thread too lol; I think I'm gonna try wearing more...
Lysondra
02-19-2008, 10:17 PM
Wear more butbut... if you refuse to take it off they just call yuou a 'prude'. ::)
Bridgette
02-19-2008, 10:19 PM
I was thinking about that throughout the whole thread too lol; I think I'm gonna try wearing more...
I make alot of money wearing more than almost every other dancer in the club. After all, it's not stripping if all you're doing is throwing a couple shreds of lycra aside, is it? There really is something about having to actually remove some "wrapping" that makes people want it. Presentation is a powerful thing.
bebewood
02-19-2008, 10:39 PM
Wear more butbut... if you refuse to take it off they just call yuou a 'prude'. ::)
But then you can be like "buy a dance and you can see more?" right? or will it not work...?