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cameron_keys
03-10-2008, 10:26 AM
Yeah she just assumed I was drunk or fucked up on something since I couldnt focus my eyes or anything. My friends(thank god for them!) screamed for someone else..told them I dont do drugs...I dont even smoke weed and I wasnt drinking. That this was EXTREMELY wrong and they needed to find out what was wrong with me before I fucking died. The Dr found the pnumonia and dehydration and said that if I hadnt been brought in when I was I likely would not have survived the day. IT took several liters of lactated ringers(fluids) along with meds to stop me from puking and to knock me out so I could sleep to get me stabalized. I had over 105 degree fever and I was there all day before I regained any kind of conciousness.

But shame on me...it MUST have been drugs and alcohol. I mean...nobody ever gets sick otherwise right?

kitana
03-10-2008, 02:07 PM
What reason could anyone have to do drugs if not for a little bit of self-destructiveness and the experience of hallucinations and disconnection from life ?

Some people need them, and by that I mean RX meds that some abuse.

I know I had a rough pain pill addiction after I was in the hospital for a month and got addicted to morphine then diaudid, then lortabs.

It took 6 months for me to wean myself off, and I spent WAY too much buying them off friends and such. my addiciton wasn't caused by desire to get high, it was caused by a medical condition and stayed cause of my addiction.

I didn't go into it wanting a buzz.

So there is another side of the coin.

BrodieLux
03-10-2008, 02:08 PM
LiveFree you should just get yourself some good herb, roll a fattie and pop in some Family Guy. That's what I call a past-time!

BrodieLux
03-10-2008, 02:10 PM
BTW, if you have a lot of time on your hands, probably it would be more fulfilling to find some way to help...as in the world, your community, your friends, etc. Just my $0.02. World's pretty fucked up right now. Could use some help.

britt244
03-10-2008, 02:46 PM
What reason could anyone have to do drugs if not for a little bit of self-destructiveness and the experience of hallucinations and disconnection from life ?

when i do drugs it isnt because i want to be self destructive. it's because i enjoy it. and i dont do drugs that make me hallucinate.

LiveFree
03-11-2008, 08:39 AM
BTW, if you have a lot of time on your hands, probably it would be more fulfilling to find some way to help...as in the world, your community, your friends, etc. Just my $0.02. World's pretty fucked up right now. Could use some help.

I tried a couple places. They ask for too many days, I can't fit it on my schedule. Ah, and screw drugs. Too early for me yet.

Torrential_Downpours
03-11-2008, 10:28 AM
Been there, done that. I was in and out of rehab at 16. I'm not going to sit here and lie and say I've been completely sober since then, but I know myself extremely well and have the will power now to realize the difference between recreational and dependence. As long as you know the risks (and are okay with it!), can identify any addictive behaivor and STOP YOURSELF.

Now I'm not saying sure go right on ahead... Especially if by hardcore you mean meth, heroin & crack. But you can get addicted to anything, even things that aren't exclusively considered "drugs" that are distructive. Eating, not eating, indoor tanning, gambling, sex... etc...

VegasPrincess
03-11-2008, 11:28 AM
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d44/gaaralovinginsominac/cocaine.jpg

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Hahahahahahah!!!

Okay everyone is being melodramatic lol!!

Yes, technically every time you take drugs you run the risk of ODing. Anytime you get drunk you could choke on your own vomit. Any time you drive you could crash into a tree and die. I mean, life is full of risks.

I am by no means a habitual drug user, but I do *gasp* recreatiionally do coke and E.....and sometimes, I take perscreption pain killers that aren't even prescribed to me!! I know.... REBEL.

I probably take drugs less than five times a year. I'm hardly an addict. I don't think there's anything wrong with experimenting, esp. with stuff like Acid/shrooms (IE stuff that can't do you a lot of bodily harm).

xoxoGracexoxo
03-11-2008, 02:49 PM
Yeah, I didn't know our weed was laced either.

This is what happened to me! I took one hit of a joint that turned out to have been laced with PCP. It was a tiny hit, and I was pretty new to weed, too, at that point, so I'm not sure I can isolate the effects of the PCP, but it was a veeerrry psychedelic experience. I had mind-sex with a tree. You heard me right.

All in all, my little brush with PCP was not bad, but I'm glad I didn't have any more than I did, and I was royally pissed at my friends for not telling me. I think they were kinda like the OP at the time...thought PCP was just an extra-strong variety of weed or something. I had done a lot of reading about drugs, so I knew as soon as they told me that something heavy was going to happen.

TheSexKitten
03-11-2008, 03:01 PM
Less of a concern than OD'ing IMO is the addictiveness of many hard drugs. Does X, shrooms, and LSD count as hard...? Because they're not physically addictive. However each has potentially harmful side effects that should be throughoughly researched and enjoyed in moderation with caution.

Coke? I don't know enough to say. I wouldn't do it.

Meth/heroin/speed/PCP: No way!! Intensely addictive and harmful!!

Alia_of_the_Knife
03-11-2008, 07:52 PM
This is a very difficult question to answer due to the very dangerous consequences that can occur from it. So I won't really answer the question directly due to liability but I will say what my personal views and experiences are.

I know many people, including myself, who have done hardcore drugs sporatically and we are not addicts nor have messed up lives. One person I know is the CEO of his own business and is raising 2 daughters (he doesn't do drugs when his kids are around) and the other is a middle aged business man.

But not everyone can do this. Everyone's body makeup is different and some can handle their high better than others. It's not just true with hardcore drugs but it is true with alcohol as well. Most people can have an occasional drink or drinks and be fine, but a certain percentage become alcoholics. There is a huge percentage of people addicted to food in our culture. Sex can also be dangerous though it's completely natural.

The reason some people do drugs is simply because they enjoy to and they like to get high. People have been getting high since the beginning of time and even non-human animals like to get high (ie cats on catnip.) Sex, eating, drinking, reading a fiction novel, skydiving and many other activities have a similar effect. Not everyone likes the same activities and many of these activities are more dangerous than others (excess eating is probably the most dangerous activity in our culture followed by reckless driving and then unprotected sex, I would rate drugs behind those.)

So I would say that some people can take it but there is no physical or psychological test that is out yet to determine who is and who isn't. And for the record, I have never done crack, heroin, or meth.

BrodieLux
03-11-2008, 08:19 PM
Mind sex with a tree!!! Damn, that totally kicks the ass of any of my own crazy psychedelic experiences. The best one I have is the time I communicated telepathically with some fish while on ecstasy.

Divalicious
03-12-2008, 02:56 AM
Well in my opinion, no. Why would anyone want to put their bodies through such torture? Drugs are not a hobby they destroy lives.

Enough said

jaizaine
03-12-2008, 04:22 AM
I have nothing to add but i wanted to take this opportunity to ask whether the OP is a boy or a girl? I hate when people don't have a blue or pink ribbon.

BalletBaby
03-12-2008, 05:25 PM
Dont you love that shit?? My friends had to take me to the ER one day because I was dying off pnumonia and severe dehydration. I couldnt hold my head up and couldnt really speak. The nurse checking me in told me that maybe I shouldnt drink and party so much because this is what happens to people who do. WTF??? My friends ripped her a new one since I dont "party", hadnt had a single drink and all I"d been doing all week is working. Bitch.

What. the. fuck. Did you file a complaint?

cameron_keys
03-12-2008, 05:27 PM
What. the. fuck. Did you file a complaint?

No. I was too out of it at the time, and afterwards I was just happy to be alive. I dont think I ever paid the bill though...(didnt have insurance at the time and they charged me like $3000 for fluids and a cpl x-rays.)

BalletBaby
03-12-2008, 05:42 PM
^^^Well, thank Gawd you're okay! (despite cunty nurse. le boo)

Samba
03-12-2008, 05:58 PM
I know many people, including myself, who have done hardcore drugs sporatically and we are not addicts nor have messed up lives. One person I know is the CEO of his own business and is raising 2 daughters (he doesn't do drugs when his kids are around) and the other is a middle aged business man.

Plenty of people who do drugs don't mess up their lives, but that doesn't mean they aren't causing damage to their organs.

Just for the record, I don't really care if someone else does drugs. If they become addicted, that's fine with me too as long as they stay off the road and don't rob me for drug money.

AlexxaHex
03-12-2008, 07:03 PM
I just want to randomly add that I am SO GLAD I don't do drugs anymore. When I think of all the time, brain cells and money I wasted, it makes me a little sad. I don't like, hate people who do drugs or anything but I just can't associate with them anymore. I've lost too much of my life and too many people to miss it.

Jenn1981
12-15-2011, 10:15 PM
recovering addict- 9 days clean. Coke, adderall, perks, xanax. Only thing I take now is Dr prescribed xanax , small, dose for anxiety thru my withdrawal. I'm 29, took me 7 yrs to realize I was/am an addict. Drugs are fun, well some. But I have an addictive personality.
I can't preach,or say not to do it. Cause you will anyway if you want.

innes
12-16-2011, 06:40 AM
Yes, you can do drugs safely. It involves testing them, making sure they are good quality, and knowing your limits. "Let me do give grams of coke in 15 mins" obviously not safe! There are some drugs it's easier to be safe with, like mdma, lsd, mushrooms (lsd has never killed anyone before) with psychedelics, have a trip sitter with you. But those things, you can use safely.

innes
12-16-2011, 06:42 AM
This is what happened to me! I took one hit of a joint that turned out to have been laced with PCP. It was a tiny hit, and I was pretty new to weed, too, at that point, so I'm not sure I can isolate the effects of the PCP, but it was a veeerrry psychedelic experience. I had mind-sex with a tree. You heard me right.

All in all, my little brush with PCP was not bad, but I'm glad I didn't have any more than I did, and I was royally pissed at my friends for not telling me. I think they were kinda like the OP at the time...thought PCP was just an extra-strong variety of weed or something. I had done a lot of reading about drugs, so I knew as soon as they told me that something heavy was going to happen.

Weed can be psychedelic too

mediocrity
12-16-2011, 02:01 PM
If you don't have an addictive personality, in an environment with people you trust, drugs can be used responsibly. For me this means at home, with my husband and/or a close friend or two. I never use anything in public.

Of all the drugs I've done, alcohol is the only one that's done me any damage. And I recreationally use what would definitely be construed as "hard drugs" every few months or so.

luscious sadie
12-16-2011, 02:12 PM
I used to do MDMA all the time (e and MDMA are NOT the same. E has other stuff added to it, especially amphetamines). I recently did it again with some of my friends and it has re-triggered anxiety in a really bad way. I had gotten over having that anxiety and had hardly experienced it for months. All it took was that one trip to make it come back.

now, I'm not saying stay away from all drugs. I don't think that doing drugs once or twice or even 10 times will hurt you. Just make sure you look up the side effects and do NOT do them if you have any anxiety going in. I felt horrible anxiety thinking about doing the MDMA but thought that it was just nerves since I hadn't done it in a while and that I would love it and it would be fine.

most of the trip was okay but there were a few parts that were really unenjoyable and like I said, I've been experiencing anxiety now and it makes me really upset.

The_Adict
12-16-2011, 04:59 PM
I used to do MDMA all the time (e and MDMA are NOT the same. E has other stuff added to it, especially amphetamines). I recently did it again with some of my friends and it has re-triggered anxiety in a really bad way.

Few weeks ago this happened to me. I quit doing all drugs (Legal or illegal) which I did everyday till I was 18. I hurt my back pretty bad and was bored one day so I smoked some weed and took some painkillers. Holy shit. I had my first anxiety attack ever. 8 years of nothing other than drinking triggered it. I've done almost every drug in the book but this was 10 fold more intense than any trip I've ever had.

luscious sadie
12-16-2011, 05:35 PM
it was my mistake to do the MDMA. Last year on xmas eve I did e. I have a high resting heart rate and anxiety and it fucked me up. I have never experienced anything as horrible as that trip. I thought I was going to die. I took two pills and hardly drank any water. I also was kind of stuck in a small room so that didn't help.

when I was getting ready to do the m with my friends, I was having anxiety. It was like I was experiencing a traumatic experience and I thought that it would be ok. I wish that I hadn't!

luscious sadie
12-16-2011, 09:53 PM
Awww. It sounds like you got some shitty stuff :(. All MDMA will have stimulant effects, but some pills will contain more of the scary shit than others. I had a few "omg I'm going to die" experiences but never on MDMA before...knock on wood.

nah, it was good stuff. Everyone who did it with me had fun (and I had some fun, too). It was just that it was triggering previous anxiety. I knew that I shouldn't have done it.. I was having anxiety before I even took it :(

luscious sadie
12-16-2011, 10:20 PM
I really wanted to have some ketamine around too so I could do some of that if I started to bad trip but it's sooo hard to get and I kinda fucked up getting some so I didn't have any.

I think that drugs are great if you do your research and are willing to accept the consequences. A lot of really fun times have been on drugs and I grew a lot through my experiences.

you just have to listen to your gut and only do what you're 100% comfortable with.

tempest666
12-17-2011, 06:22 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh7l8dx-h8M

Swagz
12-17-2011, 11:35 AM
My experiences with drugs

MDMA: Very fun, ok if done like a sacrament, like once a year or something. Otherwise it's damaging to your memory, mood, and heart over the long term. Plus finding pure MDMA is next to impossible these days so you'll have to be ok with some MDA or caffeine cut in. "Is it molly?" "Yeah look it's white!" "Oh ok. Cool! It's molly!" ::) You can get drug test kits online or check out pillreports.com for chemical analyses of pills from your area.

Coke: Held out forever on trying this, finally did a bit with bf. It's whatever. Don't bother IMO. Have a caffeine pill and save your $$ (my experience)

Shrooms: If you can set time aside and find someone you love or trust, shrooms are definitely something to be done once. I found a full eighth to make me a little emotionally volatile, especially around others who can't handle their shit, but if you stick to like 2 grams you'll giggle and love words and nature and showers. Plus you'll have a few important introspections. Do not do if you are prone to paranoia.

LSD: Milder than shrooms, but I only did 2 tabs of mild stuff. Less life-reflection than shrooms, less giggling, more heat and color enhancement. Playing music or doing art stuff is a blast! Not something I'd do frequently, as with any psychedelic (or drug) moderation is key.

I can't speak for any others but basically, a great mild shroom trip or an artistic adventure on acid can relay infinitely more positive benefits than MDMA or coke without being costly for your body.

Mr Hyde
12-18-2011, 09:47 PM
To give my opinion/answer on the OP's post line question..."Are there any good reasons to do drugs as a hobby?...

It depends on what you count as good reasons. Here are some possible good reasons....

1-You have a terminal illness and productivity doesn't matter to you
2-You are intent on some sort of artistic career and think drugs can help in that
3-You are so rich that you can easily afford to not have a "normal" life

I think drugs are ok...I think they should almost all be legalized, honestly. But as a hobby? That's just stupid.

I once saw a comedian's act that included this bit..."I love pot. But I hate potheads." I think I'd agree with that. If you love drugs so much that you somehow make them a major part of your life, I'd contend that you kind of don't have much of a life.

Do them every now and then, fine...have some fun....but if you find yourself spending inordinate amounts of money on drugs, and they are a large part of you who you are...well...I wouldn't say that's good.

Swagz
12-19-2011, 08:15 PM
Yeah I think there's a line to straddle between "hobby" and "experimentation." You experiment with drugs to augment another hobby, ideally...?

innes
12-19-2011, 08:28 PM
I used to do MDMA all the time (e and MDMA are NOT the same. E has other stuff added to it, especially amphetamines). I recently did it again with some of my friends and it has re-triggered anxiety in a really bad way. I had gotten over having that anxiety and had hardly experienced it for months. All it took was that one trip to make it come back.

now, I'm not saying stay away from all drugs. I don't think that doing drugs once or twice or even 10 times will hurt you. Just make sure you look up the side effects and do NOT do them if you have any anxiety going in. I felt horrible anxiety thinking about doing the MDMA but thought that it was just nerves since I hadn't done it in a while and that I would love it and it would be fine.

most of the trip was okay but there were a few parts that were really unenjoyable and like I said, I've been experiencing anxiety now and it makes me really upset.

Unless you get pure MDMA (which you don't know unless you make it ... even testing it, you can't be 100% sure, it doesn't test for everything), then it is just as mysterious as ecstasy as to "what's in it".
Because neither MDMA nor ecstasy is moderated, the dealers can really put anything in it.

People with any serious (or even moderate) disorder (mental, physical) should probably not use drugs, or at least serious look into AND test every drug they try because drugs CAN be deadly.
Ex. people with anxiety should be more careful with psychedelics. people with depression should be careful with mdma. It doesn't mean they can't use it, but it means they should be more careful.

IF drugs were moderated, there wouldn't be so many deaths. For example, mdma/ecstasy can have many things in it ... speed, caffeine for example. Speed is a lot more dangerous than pure mdma. If you have pure mdma, it is not nearly as dangerous as street mdma. The danger is more what it's mixed with. So having speed in mdma and taking it as mdma, that's what a lot of the problem is.

I was at a club the other day. This guy is telling me how high he is. I'm like, oh what did you take. He's like "ohhh I don't know, I just had a bunch of pills at my house, just took some of them, I don't know what they were". I was like WTF?!? How dumb can you be?!? But a lot of people don't know to test their stuff which is the best thing that you can do. Then he offered me some ketamine and I was like yeah right ... lmao ... certainly not taking any from some random guy who doesn't know his drugs ... bahaha!!

There is TONS of research about drugs online and tons of forums if you can't find the answer for something as well.

As well, I forgot to add the whole as a hobby vs. on occasion thing. It can be a hobby that you do on occasion. Let's say you do drugs once a month. You switch it up, space out your drug use, and only stick with ones that you are comfortable with. Enjoying something once a month is still a hobby. I don't think drugs should be your whole life. Although they are very interesting to learn about as well, how they interact with your body and brain and whatnot, pretty cool. And I don't agree with the statement "If you love drugs so much that you somehow make them a major part of your life, I'd contend that you kind of don't have much of a life." Unless you agree that you can say that about anything. If it goes as far as addiction, yes obviously a problem. But a big part? There is so much to drugs that people don't know. And I would recommend that anyone who uses drugs recreationally make it a part of their life to actually LEARN about them. Using drugs once a month and knowing nothing about them ... not a risk I would take, that's for sure!

William Folds
12-19-2011, 08:30 PM
I desperately want to try peyote

unbeleavable
12-19-2011, 08:36 PM
I bet you could pait some bad shit on that...

JoJoX
12-20-2011, 12:18 AM
i love weed and ketamine. not hard core drugs, most might say k is but google it and you will see. i know it sounds crazy but both weed and ketamine gets me in touch with my spiritual side, i swear! google it and you will see

William Folds
12-20-2011, 02:17 AM
i've given up consuming weed in any other form than brownies lol

it's the most efficient way, and i don't kill my lungs. and it's browniezzzzzzz

William Folds
12-20-2011, 02:18 AM
I bet you could pait some bad shit on that...

hahaha yep

can anyone compare peyote to shrooms? i wonder...

luscious sadie
12-21-2011, 01:41 AM
I looooooooooove ketamine.

mediocrity
12-21-2011, 01:23 PM
^^ My husband loves it too, but I've never tried it! I'm scared of the "K-Hole", and my husband says sometimes it makes you feel like you're walking on marshmallows!

I'm more built for comfort, built for speed. Speed slows me down and chills me out so much.

velvet
12-21-2011, 10:03 PM
Unless you get pure MDMA (which you don't know unless you make it ... even testing it, you can't be 100% sure, it doesn't test for everything), then it is just as mysterious as ecstasy as to "what's in it".
not true you can buy the "three pack" from dance safe and it tests and shows everything. thats what i use

luscious sadie
12-24-2011, 11:16 PM
^^ My husband loves it too, but I've never tried it! I'm scared of the "K-Hole", and my husband says sometimes it makes you feel like you're walking on marshmallows!

I'm more built for comfort, built for speed. Speed slows me down and chills me out so much.

I used to do a lot of it and never hit a k-hole. If you're smart and do "bumps" and not lines (NEVER do a line of K unless you know what you're doing!!) then you'll be fine.

Spinnerette
12-25-2011, 05:08 AM
This thread makes me feel sheltered virgin, lol. I've only tried tried oxycodone and then it was prescription (wisdom teeth removal).

Even if I had a hookup, I'd pass because with my luck, I'd probably cause long term damage to myself somehow.

pinkygirl
02-14-2012, 05:38 PM
i think it's never good to do drugs even if its once in awhile because ive seen what it could do to few girlfriends of mine. they thought they would do it and then cut it back whenever they want to but the truth is in the end drugs will always get you. :(

Shy2
10-12-2016, 10:26 PM
I think drugs are much more acceptable in Australia than in America, but that's just my impression from TV and I've never been there. Like a TV character can shoot someone and still be a good guy, but take drugs and they're the devil.

Coke is really expensive (coz it has to be smuggled into the country), in Adelaide it's about AUD$400, and I've never seen crack cocaine. We have a lot of meth (which spine people call crack) coz it's cheap to make and buy - about AUD$50-80 in Adelaide. MDMA pills are popular in clubs, but there is often an amount of meth or ketamine in them. We grow a lot of weed here. I don't know much about trips but LSD is around and shrooms grow in some areas.

threlayer
10-15-2016, 07:55 PM
NO, absolutely NOT. Do you have any idea what is in that crap? Look up how it is processed (eg kerosene for leaching out the cocaine) plus all the adulterants in the street version, such as fentonyl which kills. Drugs are for stupid people, those having mental problems fixable in safer cheaper ways, or those wanting to kill themselves. That being said, there must be a LOT of stupid people doing them. Finally it supports a LOT of very violent people who kill others. To my way of thinking, those supporting those people are like in many ways those who consume kiddieporn because of the irreversible damage they indirectly do to others.

Selina M
10-16-2016, 12:07 AM
such as fentonyl which kills.

Um... fentanyl is not a 'street drug'. I have never heard of a junkie touching that shit. Most of them are borderline afraid of it because it's so powerful. I've never heard of it even offered for sale. I had it for a medical procedure and it's no joke.


Drugs are for stupid people

I seriously beg to differ. Yes a lot of not-so-bright people do drugs. Most of the people I know that got into them had IQs on the very high end & at least a couple years of college. Tortured genius thing, if you will. Honestly, a lot of them were bored & disillusioned with the world. Some drugs are good for 'spiritual quests' and some of the people were going down that road.

Original question: I don't know about 'good' reasons by anyone else's standpoint, but I can see it being amusing. Depending on the drug, it's the same as "Hey let's get drunk". That's been going on for thousands of years and is socially acceptable though ::) If they're not driving around while fucked up or stealing your money to buy it, who cares?

lynn2009
10-16-2016, 06:22 AM
[QUOTE=Selina M;2928612]Um... fentanyl is not a 'street drug'. I have never heard of a junkie touching that shit. Most of them are borderline afraid of it because it's so powerful. I've never heard of it even offered for sale. I had it for a medical procedure and it's no joke.
/QUOTE]

Wow, can I ask what medical procedure? I thought it was only for terminal cancer patients.

November_Scorpio
10-17-2016, 08:32 AM
Even if only once in a while. Is it ever okay to do drugs ? I mean not weed but a hard drug. What if you really feel like it, and its a safe environment etc. ?

Or is it to be avoided at all costs ?

Well the problem with drugs is it easily can lead to an unwanted addiction that ends up controling the person's life instead of that person having full control of life. There was a saying though I go by "it is all right to do drugs once in a while as long as you don't overindulge unduly to the point of excess" where it can become problematic. It really depends how addictive the drug can be just after experimenting. Like crystal meth is said to be highly addictive and gets people hooked after experimenting a few times. Weed on the other hand is not suppose to be so addictive and there is a debate if it helps with relaxation and improving creative abilities. Same thing with many hallucinogens. They say LSD and Magic Mushrooms are not really that addictive, many artists and musicians have claimed that they improve creativity and make a person look at life from a different perspective. Many occult groups actually as part of initiation process encourage a person take a hallucinogen to have a permanent change happen in the mind and to help open the "middle eye", to see life from a different perspective they never saw before and uncover the hidden knowledge of the ages. Even just experimenting with hallucigens once or just a few times they say has a pernament effect on the brain that some people claim are positive, more creativity and ability to be more of a flexible thinker that is much more open to new ideas. Openness and creativity is considered an asset by many that some claim hallucinogens improve.

Too often though I see people get addicted to drugs and have drugs control and run their life, instead of them being in full control of their life. I see nothing wrong with drugs as long as the person is in full control of themselves and has control over their drug habits instead of their drug habits having control over them.

zeke
10-17-2016, 12:00 PM
Thread starter hasnt posted in yrs.

Maybe they OD'D.