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AmazingKat
03-10-2008, 10:56 PM
http://www.wtvq.com/content/midatlantic/tvq/video.apx.-content-articles-TVQ-2008-03-05-0011.html

HAH!

I can see why someone might want to cut down on online harassment but I think this is just taking it too far. Theres no way I would register my address and full name to be used every time I posted.

Luckily, it is just a bill. I wonder if its a cry for attention rather than an actual hope for a bill like this? Perhaps he was the victim of online harassment?

Either way, I doubt this would actually become law.....right? I suppose nothing should surprise me anymore.

leilanicandy
03-10-2008, 11:18 PM
Really I think anyone who agree with that! Is not thinking! Really that will not solve the promblem. Since when do crazy people care about, others findin out where they live! Crazy people want you to visit! They dont care how they look, stalking you in a all black in brod daylight! They dont care if you dont want to talk to them, when they call you for the 105 th time today. They want attention half of the time. That law will only make it easy for one to be attack!

Crazy people dont care, they stalk you like it is thier right! They harass you, because the differnt people in thier head told them too! This law will only make is easy for the good people to be harass!

It is like guns, people that are bad have them! Mosy have them the illegal way! But because some crazy person have them! Dose that mean you have to give your rights. They are unfit, why should you have the same rights? They are not in the right mind.

Yekhefah
03-11-2008, 12:29 AM
For starters, politicians have a lot of difficulty recognizing the limits of their sphere of influence. Like a Kentucky legislator can stop someone in New York from posting anonymously on a site hosted in California about a dancer who lives in Kentucky and works at a club in Ohio, where they saw her. OK, good luck with that one...::)

Worked on Robert and Colleen Thomas.

ETA: For those not familiar with U.S. vs Thomas, this was back in the nineties before the internet, when a select few (self included, ahem) dialed in with phone-based modems to Bulletin Board Systems. The Thomases lived in California and operated a fee-subscription BBS where members could download porn. A postal inspector in Memphis joined, downloaded the porn, and brought charges for interstate distribution of obscenity. "Obscenity" is a tricky term to legally define, but the current rule holds that it violates community standards of decency. The Thomases argued that they should be subject to California's community standards, not Memphis's. They lost.

The federal government set a precedent with Thomas that they can now use to establish jurisdiction over the internet. Tricky to enforce, but if they have an interest like this and it goes to court, I guarantee Thomas will come up.

PhaedrusZ
03-11-2008, 04:29 AM
I'm not sure if the Cypherpunks are still around, are now a footnote in 'Net history, or if they've gone "underground." But the wikipedia entry about them is still of interest,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cypherpunks

And groups dedicated to internet privacy still exist. E.g.,

http://epic.org/

Although I do recall reading several websites in the past dedicated to the difference between internet privacy and internet anonymity.

A blog about privacy and other political issues,

http://lauren.vortex.com/

Jenny
03-11-2008, 09:55 AM
I think there would a serious first amendment issue if this law were passed.
As well Yek - I don't know much about jurisdictional issues in the U.S.; but a federal legal body exercising jurisdiction over multiple states is a lot different than one state exercising jurisdiction over another.

jester214
03-11-2008, 10:56 AM
It'll never happen... Think of how many senators and congressmen would be in trouble :)

LadyLuck
03-11-2008, 11:37 AM
I don't see how this could be widely or effectively enforced.

Yekhefah
03-11-2008, 11:51 AM
As well Yek - I don't know much about jurisdictional issues in the U.S.; but a federal legal body exercising jurisdiction over multiple states is a lot different than one state exercising jurisdiction over another.

Sure, but the Tenth Amendment means nothing these days so it's not too big a leap for the feds to get involved if this law were to pass. I don't think it will, but it's definitely a concern that should be addressed.

Paris
03-11-2008, 06:05 PM
The work-around? Incorporate. For $150 anyone can have an anonymous identity in just about everything they do with a shell corporation.

It is possible to make yourself disappear that way. No address, no phone number, no auto registration, no utility bills in your name. All of it can be handled by a corporate identity.

Sure, a corporation needs to list an owner (or share holders), but that is more work than it is worth to dig up that info. You can keep your identity private with the correct corporate designation, too.