View Full Version : 20/20 prostitute show sex vs. stripping
ruru123
03-25-2008, 11:32 PM
For someone who was telling me to get educated you sure don't seem very educated yourself. AIDS is not an STD. its a collection of symptoms as a result of having a weakened immune system. The virus you are talking about that CAN be spread via sex but is not SOLELY an std, is called HIV.
but you're right, a visual check isnt going to do shit and i hate when people think that its okay to have sex if the person "looks" clean.
of course AIDS, which resulted thru HIV which could have been transmitted thru sex. DUH!
cameron_keys
03-26-2008, 12:37 AM
Okay now I can't believe anything you say because I saw a thread where you were discussing how you were looking for partners to swing with via craigslist. Please stop denying stuff. I'm not "assuming" I am saying this based on threads you have participated in where you have clearly stated that you posted in the casual encounters section looking for hookups. I do not see this as any better than a hooker posting an ad on the internet and finding her johns through there.
Here it is
You are an idiot. If you READ the thread you'd see that I posted on CL, but DIDNT MEET ANYONE OFF IT. It was a lark...mostly to see what responses I'd get. I didnt hook up with ANYONE who responded.
And more non-swingers look for hookups on CL then swingers do.
Moron
jaizaine
03-26-2008, 03:12 AM
I don't like being compared to a prostitute, that does mean that I think strippers are better than prostitutes or that there's anything wrong with selling sex. Stripping and prostitution are different, fact. I know know that as a stripper I am part of the sex industry and I know that I am selling a sexual service and i don't have a problem admitting that but I don't like being compared to a prostitute because it's not and never will be the same thing.
FUCKING OATH.
Sorry but comparing what I do to prostitution is just stupid. I work at a club where I dance nude and the customer cannot touch me. I am totally comfortable with nudity.
I do not touch anyone's cock.
Prostitution obviously involves allowing another person to be as physically intimitate as possible to me for a $$$ amount.
I would rather carve out my pussy with a rusty spoon than have a guy who I didn't care about or find attractive's cock inside me.
Don't care if other's do it but thanks Ill stick to dancing.
jaizaine
03-26-2008, 03:20 AM
I hope you are not talking about yourself since you admitted in other posts that you are a swinger and even look for sex partners on the internet...
I know not everyone does that, but a lot of girls saying that "omg prostitution is something i could NEVER DO! do...and I'm not just talking about fucking a stranger, I mean any type of casual sex. If you're going to have sex with someone you don't care about might as well get paid for it.
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how fucking stupid are u?
there is a big difference between having casual sex for mutual enjoyment and providing a sexual service for money.
if u cannot understand that you are either socially inept or just trying to argue.
Lysondra
03-26-2008, 03:23 AM
Wow, I don't know where you are getting your information from but I really hope no one takes it as blind truth. Ever hear of asymptotic shedding? The reason most people with skin diseases like herpes dont even know they have it is because their partners never showed symptoms and THEY dont show symptoms either. trust me, 20 percent of the population with type 2 herpes didn't get it because they were too stupid to check.
That's why I said 'nearly'.
jaizaine
03-26-2008, 03:27 AM
As an outsider, seeing strippers moralize at prostitutes and porn stars has always been amusing to me.
That doesn't surprise me, knowing you view women merely as conquests.
I have said it before and Ill say it again, I don't know why you are as accepted around here as you are by the ladies when you constantly flaunt these opinions.
It is not moralising to state a fact that dancing is different to prostitution.
Prostitution is legal where I live and it doesn't bother me in the least that people sell and buy sex.
However u wont ever catch me working there.
Dancing nude in front of guys is my limit - not you "sort" of club I know that's ok u dont ever have to visit.
Thanks jaizaine, great post.
Another source of amusement is the divide between strippers who only give "air dances" or just stage/table dance and those who are at higher contact places.
That has started nearly religious war here on SW.
You can take any segment of the adult industry and there is always a segment of people that try to distance themselves from the "lower half".
Some porn stars are adamant about the fact they ONLY do Girl-girl, versus those nasty ones that do girl-boy, some dancers are adamant about the fact they ONLY do table dances versus lap dances, etc.
We all have our limits and tastes, that's quite different from MORALIZING at those who engage in activities beyond them.
Nini Nieb
03-26-2008, 06:18 AM
Thanks jaizaine, great post.
Another source of amusement is the divide between strippers who only give "air dances" or just stage/table dance and those who are at higher contact places.
That has started nearly religious war here on SW.
You can take any segment of the adult industry and there is always a segment of people that try to distance themselves from the "lower half".
Some porn stars are adamant about the fact they ONLY do Girl-girl, versus those nasty ones that do girl-boy, some dancers are adamant about the fact they ONLY do table dances versus lap dances, etc.
We all have our limits and tastes, that's quite different from MORALIZING at those who engage in activities beyond them.
You are of course right !! But only somewhat right !?
But we have plenty of female here doing porn and they feel good about it so much that they even bragg about it ;D So would I :D
We even have a (ONE !!!) girl doing OTC w/ a regular all the way ... It's her choice ... If she is feeling good about it ... That's critical to me !! So be it ...
Tolerance is a very relative concept !!
sexy_celeste
03-26-2008, 07:09 AM
It is not moralising to state a fact that dancing is different to prostitution.
Prostitution is legal where I live and it doesn't bother me in the least that people sell and buy sex.
However u wont ever catch me working there.
Dancing nude in front of guys is my limit
I couldnt agree more. Im grateful that Im in a situation where I dont need to take the 'next step' in the sex industry, as many of my formers stripper friends have.
Personally I havent touched another penis in the 7 years Ive been married, nor would I, unless we both decided that a group experience was on the cards.
I wouldnt touch one for money.
Everyone makes their way in life, the best way they know how. This is the best way for me.
threlayer
03-26-2008, 07:10 AM
Let me discuss a worldview of this in a systematic way.
I think people develop 'rules' beyond which they do not go, regardless of the activity. But it's their own rules, not necessarily derived from anyone else's rules. What could possibly be invalid about that? After all, we all are different and have different sensibilities, moralities, experiences, fears, and enjoyments. Further we have a freedom of expression in democracies. I could easily believe that even prostitutes individually have their 'enjoyments' and 'limits' too.
In any part of the sex trade, there is a sort of continuum of intimacies. Some feel that even 'hugs' from clients are too intimate while others feel that certain sexual positions/acts are too intimate. And all this happens while money is being exchanged for services in different segments of the trade. Some degrees (that is, limits) of intimacy just do not fit in certain segments of the trade. And quite a number are legally forbidden in localities. (Why politics gets into private encounters is a bit beyond me unless there is unwelcomed force or fraud, such as finances or disease.)
So all these factors play roles in shaping what forms whatever degrees of sexuality are expressed in particular segments of the trade. I believe what you are discussing above involves the overlaps between different segments of the trade for workers having limits that straddle the formally imposed limits of that particular segment in a particular location. It is certainly easy to see that many would not accept a worker performing certain things in a particular segment of the trade that another will not perform. Maintaining the level of intimacy in a particular segment so that other workers in that segment are not forced to go beyond their limits would be a natural extension of both their limits and the role of the particular trade segment of the industry.
Just let a worker tell you what she (or he) will do for remuneration and accept it. If what is available to a customer is not ac eptable, the customer must go to a place where that level of intimacy is available. If that level is not acceptable to a manager, the worker needs to go to a place where that level of intimacy is acceptable.
This is all a natural thing. What is so hard to understand about it?
cameron_keys
03-26-2008, 08:13 AM
This has just devolved into a stupid argument.,..this thread should close
Eric Stoner
03-26-2008, 09:00 AM
i totally agree with your whole post. and very much agree with what ur saying about eric stoner, i wish most of the men would just lurk and stay outta our threads, or just post in customer. this is a STRIPPER FORUM, we just dealt with men all night at work and we want to have some girl talk, (well me atleast) and posting in areas you have no REAL LIFE experience in, and making points in just ridiculous.
disclaimer - i don't dislike all the men on here, i just wish that you'd post in threads where we're on the same level.
Don't you already have a "For Ladies Only " forum where ONLY women can post ?
Eric Stoner
03-26-2008, 09:06 AM
Eric, I'd have to ask you where you got that idea?
In fact, state and federal criminal statistics suggest very little prostitution is internet based. Just the tip of the iceberg really. Asian massage parlors girls along, most of which never show themselves on the internet [though there are sites of customers who discuss them] probably out number "webscorts".
The web also certainly had some impact as police presence drove the street trade off the streets in some communities and onto CL, but street prostitutes still vastly outnumber the working gals whose presence dots the pages of Craig's Lists "erotic services" and "Casual Encounters" sections combined.
I think, if you check into it, you'll find there is no evidence to support the notion that the majority of the prostitution biz has gone digital.
State and Federal stats are based on ARRESTS. More, ahem "pedestrians" are arrested than agency or indie escorts. A number of cities , like NYC, have swept a lot of prostitution off the streets ( not all but a sizeable chunk) and Craig's List
has helped fill the void.
Eric Stoner
03-26-2008, 09:11 AM
Oooh, this is a loaded issue for me, as anybody who knows me and my background.
I think it's all about finding one's individual comfort level. Some people have different definitions of what actually constitutes prostitution, and that's ok. What I don't like is casting aspersions on other women in the sex industry. Sex work is difficult. It's emotionally and physically taxing. But I wish women would try to resist the impulse to pat themselves on the back and feel superior to other women for their personal choices. To the majority of the public, we're all shit. So let's try to look out for one another instead of clawing over our position on the totem pole.
I absolutely agree with what Katrine said, too. The status quo guarantees that that men can't be held liable for their actions. I have a problem with the legalization scenario, however. If prostitutes should be required by law to be tested for STDs, why shouldn't johns? They're the ones who demand or insist unsafe activities, after all.
Last, girls, remember: it doesn't matter what you know about the sex industry from firsthand experience. Eric Stoner knows more. Because, like, he reads things on the internet. He's an expert. Don't question it.*
I really don't care if I get points, but seriously, WTF. Can't we take a general vote to ban him and send him to the internet home for blowhard pontificating losers?
That's right ladies. You're MUCH better off relying on Smarty who just makes it up as she goes along. She recently posted that SOP for escorts is to KNOW all about 1st time clients including what they look like. I didn't post that. She did.
There are plenty of ladies on this board who KNOW 1st hand that I KNOW what I'm talking about.
Btw, if I DID leave this board,who or what would you have to bitch about then ?
Would you take another vote or call for volunteers ?
ruru123
03-26-2008, 02:40 PM
Don't you already have a "For Ladies Only " forum where ONLY women can post ?
this is STRIPPERWEB. not CUSTOMERWEB, or FANOFSTRIPPERSWEB. or MENSWEB. i do appreciate the male input, advice opinion, but not on here. or only in customer chat or if we have a question about our broken down car..lol. seriously.
ruru123
03-26-2008, 02:43 PM
That doesn't surprise me, knowing you view women merely as conquests.
I have said it before and Ill say it again, I don't know why you are as accepted around here as you are by the ladies when you constantly flaunt these opinions.
It is not moralising to state a fact that dancing is different to prostitution.
Prostitution is legal where I live and it doesn't bother me in the least that people sell and buy sex.
However u wont ever catch me working there.
Dancing nude in front of guys is my limit - not you "sort" of club I know that's ok u dont ever have to visit.
well said!
how fucking stupid are u?
there is a big difference between having casual sex for mutual enjoyment and providing a sexual service for money.
if u cannot understand that you are either socially inept or just trying to argue.
exactly!
FUCKING OATH.
Sorry but comparing what I do to prostitution is just stupid. I work at a club where I dance nude and the customer cannot touch me. I am totally comfortable with nudity.
I do not touch anyone's cock.
Prostitution obviously involves allowing another person to be as physically intimitate as possible to me for a $$$ amount.
I would rather carve out my pussy with a rusty spoon than have a guy who I didn't care about or find attractive's cock inside me.
Don't care if other's do it but thanks Ill stick to dancing.
i could agree with you more. thats is exactly how i feel word for word.
dancinslifoxxx17
03-26-2008, 03:20 PM
This has just devolved into a stupid argument.,..this thread should close
Yep. I concur.
jaizaine
03-26-2008, 06:19 PM
Thanks jaizaine, great post.
Another source of amusement is the divide between strippers who only give "air dances" or just stage/table dance and those who are at higher contact places.
That has started nearly religious war here on SW.
You can take any segment of the adult industry and there is always a segment of people that try to distance themselves from the "lower half".
Some porn stars are adamant about the fact they ONLY do Girl-girl, versus those nasty ones that do girl-boy, some dancers are adamant about the fact they ONLY do table dances versus lap dances, etc.
We all have our limits and tastes, that's quite different from MORALIZING at those who engage in activities beyond them.
You are confusing trying to separate oneself from the "lower half" and moralising with a simple personal boundaries issue.
Once again I will explain (and this is the last time) I don't find anything wrong with prostitution. It has been legal for as long as I can remember where I live so it's quite normal around here. I also don't care what other women do in regards to level on contact in clubs.
However personally I could not work in a higher contact club. I just couldn't do the work, it would get to me.
Im not moralising.
You have a certain view of all strippers so I know whatever I say to you is pretty pointless.
Nobody is talking about YOU doing anything, dear. Least of all me. I'm just commenting that it's entertaining when OTHER PEOPLE do it.
You could have saved yourself a lot of typing, because we already knew everything you attempted to explain. Somehow, however, you took it to be about you.
I have no certain view of strippers outside of their being women like the rest of them. It's just a job(to me).
Thank you for your reply
jaizaine
03-26-2008, 06:46 PM
^^
don't worry I type really fast so I didn't waste time with it ;D
well i don't mean me solely but as a stripper of course i took it personally when i read someone (not you actually) expressing an opinion that stripping and prostitution were the same thing. I couldn't sit on my hands, I had to type a response.
iluvbjork
03-26-2008, 07:40 PM
^ You have some good points, Iluvbjork, but your rudeness is clouding them over. Using "smarts" for "intelligence" is colloquial. Its just a phrase. Um, kind of like "luv" in your screen name.
It's really really ghetto slang.
iluvbjork
03-26-2008, 07:44 PM
of course AIDS, which resulted thru HIV which could have been transmitted thru sex. DUH!
Omg do you realize you sound more and more stupid with every response you make? AIDS cannot be transmitted, PERIOD. Ask any HIV expert. Aids is a SYNDROME NOT a virus. Syndromes cannot be transmitted
"Smarts" is a word that lower class, unsophisticated, uneducated people use.
iluvbjork
03-26-2008, 07:47 PM
You are an idiot. If you READ the thread you'd see that I posted on CL, but DIDNT MEET ANYONE OFF IT. It was a lark...mostly to see what responses I'd get. I didnt hook up with ANYONE who responded.
And more non-swingers look for hookups on CL then swingers do.
Moron
The only reason you didn't meet anyone is because no one responded. Obviously you are not opposed to fucking a stranger from the internet.
How is this any different than a hooker posting an ad on CL and then not going through with it? Plenty of hookers are by referral only, i still dont see how your life is any different from a hooker. Honestly I would applaud the hooker more because she at least is cashing in on it.
Also I never said that only swingers hook up on the internet. Plenty of non swingers too, I know, and I feel sorry for them because they don't seem to realize they can get paid for that.
iluvbjork
03-26-2008, 07:49 PM
how fucking stupid are u?
there is a big difference between having casual sex for mutual enjoyment and providing a sexual service for money.
if u cannot understand that you are either socially inept or just trying to argue.
What if you do it for both? Some hookers do prescreen their clients you know.
And I dont see how having sex because you're a horn dog makes you superior to someone who has sex to make money...Honestly if youre so horny i'd suggest a sex toy. Having casual sex is pretty damn pathetic any way you look at it. if youre going to do it might as well get paid for it.
I do realize the difference
casual sex girl= clueless low self esteem skank
prostitute= knows how to use people for money
I have seen plenty of threads in here where you guys have mentioned that you saw a girl stripping and giving lap dances for free, going wild, etc and you laughed at how pathetic they are because you get paid for that and they give it away for free. By having free casual sex YOU are the drunk girl at the party flashing people for free.
Lysondra
03-26-2008, 07:51 PM
Omg do you realize you sound more and more stupid with every response you make? AIDS cannot be transmitted, PERIOD. Ask any HIV expert. Aids is a SYNDROME NOT a virus. Syndromes cannot be transmitted
"Smarts" is a word that lower class, unsophisticated, uneducated people use.
....da....who....what....where... what?!
Lysondra
03-26-2008, 07:54 PM
Acquired immune deficiency syndrome or acquired immunodeficiency syndrome (AIDS or Aids) is a collection of symptoms and infections resulting from the specific damage to the immune system caused by the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) in humans,[1] and similar viruses in other species (SIV, FIV, etc.). The late stage of the condition leaves individuals susceptible to opportunistic infections and tumors. Although treatments for AIDS and HIV exist to decelerate the virus's progression, there is currently no known cure.
Syndrome... yes.. sorta... also can be CAUGHT BECAUSE OF A VIRUS.
threlayer
03-26-2008, 08:06 PM
My previous post in this thread attempted to give some insight leading to tolerance. I'd guess it didn't work well.
cameron_keys
03-26-2008, 08:22 PM
Aaaaaand..THATS why I love the ignore button. I highly recommend it.
jaizaine
03-26-2008, 08:48 PM
What if you do it for both? Some hookers do prescreen their clients you know.
And I dont see how having sex because you're a horn dog makes you superior to someone who has sex to make money...Honestly if youre so horny i'd suggest a sex toy. Having casual sex is pretty damn pathetic any way you look at it. if youre going to do it might as well get paid for it.
I do realize the difference
casual sex girl= clueless low self esteem skank
prostitute= knows how to use people for money
I have seen plenty of threads in here where you guys have mentioned that you saw a girl stripping and giving lap dances for free, going wild, etc and you laughed at how pathetic they are because you get paid for that and they give it away for free. By having free casual sex YOU are the drunk girl at the party flashing people for free.
Why is having casual sex pathetic, clueless and related to low self esteem? Girls who have casual sex are not skanks.
If you read what I wrote and most others on here we do not think prostitution is wrong. Morals totally aside there is a definite difference between sex for pay with someone you are not attracted to. You are merely performing a service.
Casual sex is engaged in for whatever reason such as mutual enjoyment.
There is nothing wrong with either.
I call you out as a male troll or a jealous female troll. I just don't see any way that you could be a dancer and hold such ridiculous views.
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xdamage
03-26-2008, 09:26 PM
casual sex girl= clueless low self esteem skank
This is moronic.
Look, in my mind it is simple.
Casual sex without the benefits of birth control is very risky, both for males, and females, but the risks for females is much worse. If casual sex leads to pregnancy, a guy may be able to deny it but a woman can't. Pre DNA testing in history, it was damn near impossible to prove a guy was the father, but for women there is no doubt. If casual sex leads to diseases, both men and women are at risk, but women are at a little higher risk of catching something. The cost to a woman's body is much higher than a man's if casual sex leads to pregnancy, especially if sterile abortions procedures don't exist.
But in our modern world, with cheap safe birth control, DNA testing, and relatively safe (at least sterile) abortion options, the reality has changed. Of course women have casual sex once the risks are equalized. Why wouldn't they? I sure would if I could do so without extra risks.
ruru123
03-26-2008, 09:36 PM
like I said before, iluvbjork is either a jealous female or a bitter male. either or he or she needs to leave, becuz he's full of shit. he's the one that sounds stupid. lmao @ "smarts" be a ghetto word. get a life dude.
LadyLuck
03-26-2008, 10:20 PM
I just don't see any way that you could be a dancer and hold such ridiculous views.
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I second that notion. I suspect this troll will be banned by tomorrow. Way too blatant to go unnoticed by Mistress Paige. I can almost hear the whip crack now ;)
Eric Stoner
03-27-2008, 07:25 AM
this is STRIPPERWEB. not CUSTOMERWEB, or FANOFSTRIPPERSWEB. or MENSWEB. i do appreciate the male input, advice opinion, but not on here. or only in customer chat or if we have a question about our broken down car..lol. seriously.
Afaic it's a Board devoted to stripping and strippers. My favorite people doing one of my favorite things. It's not like I'm coming on here spouting costume hints or make-up tips and I don't pretend to have any great insight into a dancer's pov.Maybe more than the average customer because of my background and experiences, but I gladly defer to you ladies on most professional matters.
The fact remains that there are things I DO know about based on 1st hand knowledge supplemented by experiences related by numerous friends who dance, strip and shhhh !, even escort. Find a post by me where what I contributed was factually delinquent. On occasion I've been mistaken and when brought to my attention I ALWAYS doublecheck the facts and when appropriate ADMIT I was wrong. So far, on this particular topic, what I've posted has been unchallenged.
If you prefer to set greater store by a fellow dancer's OPINION, even when shown that it's based only on feelings or a half baked set of incomplete facts, devoid of anything resembling personal first hand experience, please feel free.
iluvbjork
03-27-2008, 10:59 AM
Why is having casual sex pathetic, clueless and related to low self esteem? Girls who have casual sex are not skanks.
If you read what I wrote and most others on here we do not think prostitution is wrong. Morals totally aside there is a definite difference between sex for pay with someone you are not attracted to. You are merely performing a service.
Casual sex is engaged in for whatever reason such as mutual enjoyment.
There is nothing wrong with either.
I call you out as a male troll or a jealous female troll. I just don't see any way that you could be a dancer and hold such ridiculous views.
TROLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
for similar reasons that flashing, stripping, and giving out free lap dances is pathetic and shows you have no self esteem. i think most people here would agree that girls like that are kind of sad. i dont understand why they can think casual sex is okay when casual lap dances arent...
Also plenty of girls here have sugar daddies, how is this any different than prostitution?
Of course women have casual sex once the risks are equalized. Why wouldn't they? I sure would if I could do so without extra risks.
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Because you can easily get paid for it? Why have sex with a guy who doesnt matter and who is most likely an asshole pervert who treats you like a sex toy for FREE when you can charge him 500-2000 an hour for it? Doesnt make sense in my mind.
Because i AM female and a sex worker (not a hooker) i really dont see why anyone would think casual sex is by any means cool. its performing a service for free when you should be getting paid for it. honestly if i could find a way around fucking my bfs for free, i would.
ruru123
03-27-2008, 11:22 AM
ohhh iluvbjork, u are a MAN. its so obvious. and if by the slight chance u are a female then why aren't you a prosistute then? if u think its so easy, safe and "why not?" attitude. pls stop posting, everytime you do u make urself sound more retarded then ur last post. find something better to do with ur time then coming on here and argueing points. isn't there a new bjork cd u can be listening to or something? lol. pathetic loser.
xdamage
03-27-2008, 11:23 AM
Because you can easily get paid for it? Why have sex with a guy who doesnt matter and who is most likely an asshole pervert who treats you like a sex toy for FREE when you can charge him 500-2000 an hour for it? Doesnt make sense in my mind.
Because i AM female and a sex worker (not a hooker) i really dont see why anyone would think casual sex is by any means cool. its performing a service for free when you should be getting paid for it. honestly if i could find a way around fucking my bfs for free, i would.
Okay, let me then respond very simply. Your view of the situation is simply plain out twisted as compared with the average person. If that was the way most biological creatures felt, none of us would have evolved as we have . You are welcome to sell yours, but if you honestly cannot grasp why humans engage in sex for procreation, or pleasure (while apparently much less intelligent animals do get it), then it's your problem that you have a lack of understanding, not the rest of the world's or the multi-hundred million year history of sex among biological creatures that has come before.
But if it helps make you feel any better, it's often said that even animals trade sex for benefits. Such is life, but between the extremes is where most of us live our lives. Sometimes we even do things for nothing more then physical pleasure, and enjoy it. Works for me.
ruru123
03-27-2008, 11:33 AM
Afaic it's a Board devoted to stripping and strippers. My favorite people doing one of my favorite things. It's not like I'm coming on here spouting costume hints or make-up tips and I don't pretend to have any great insight into a dancer's pov.Maybe more than the average customer because of my background and experiences, but I gladly defer to you ladies on most professional matters.
The fact remains that there are things I DO know about based on 1st hand knowledge supplemented by experiences related by numerous friends who dance, strip and shhhh !, even escort. Find a post by me where what I contributed was factually delinquent. On occasion I've been mistaken and when brought to my attention I ALWAYS doublecheck the facts and when appropriate ADMIT I was wrong. So far, on this particular topic, what I've posted has been unchallenged.
If you prefer to set greater store by a fellow dancer's OPINION, even when shown that it's based only on feelings or a half baked set of incomplete facts, devoid of anything resembling personal first hand experience, please feel free.
unless u are a female stripper or female prostitute, u DO NOT have first hand experience. I don't care how many "close friends" of yours are dancers, ect. please don't use that as being "first hand" that's more like "tenth hand".
and opinions from fellow dancers or escorts is not in any way half baked incomplete facts! that's actually what we call "FIRST HAND" experience. I don't know if you are dalerious but how the hell can u say u have first hand experience?? are u a female stripper or escort or porn actress??? no you are not. you are a stripper groupie. period.
Eric Stoner
03-27-2008, 12:12 PM
unless u are a female stripper or female prostitute, u DO NOT have first hand experience. I don't care how many "close friends" of yours are dancers, ect. please don't use that as being "first hand" that's more like "tenth hand".
and opinions from fellow dancers or escorts is not in any way half baked incomplete facts! that's actually what we call "FIRST HAND" experience. I don't know if you are dalerious but how the hell can u say u have first hand experience?? are u a female stripper or escort or porn actress??? no you are not. you are a stripper groupie. period.
I've learned my lesson about trying to differentiate for the benefit of others between "facts" and "opinions" and have the scars to prove it.
Suffice to say that if someone posts what I consider to be dangerous nonsense like "escorts get formal intros to first time clients" or " my friend escorts all the time and NEVER has sex with her clients" , I'm going to speak up and inject what imho is a badly needed dose of REALITY whether you like it or not.
Btw, what do you say to all of your fellow S-Webbers who value my opinions and especially those who have DIRECTLY benefitted thereby ? The gals who've gotten jobs through me; worked PP's because of me; gotten other work through me; thought twice about doing porn or escorting because of some thoughts I shared with them ? Are they full of it too ? What about your fellow dancers who post and AGREE with what I have to say ?
Rather than prattle on, I have an even BETTER idea. Why don't YOU step up and provide the necessary factual correctives on escorting ? Since according to YOU, I can't possibly know what I'm talking about, why don't you serve as the font of knowledge ?
ruru123
03-27-2008, 12:39 PM
I've learned my lesson about trying to differentiate for the benefit of others between "facts" and "opinions" and have the scars to prove it.
Suffice to say that if someone posts what I consider to be dangerous nonsense like "escorts get formal intros to first time clients" or " my friend escorts all the time and NEVER has sex with her clients" , I'm going to speak up and inject what imho is a badly needed dose of REALITY whether you like it or not.
Btw, what do you say to all of your fellow S-Webbers who value my opinions and especially those who have DIRECTLY benefitted thereby ? The gals who've gotten jobs through me; worked PP's because of me; gotten other work through me; thought twice about doing porn or escorting because of some thoughts I shared with them ? Are they full of it too ? What about your fellow dancers who post and AGREE with what I have to say ?
Rather than prattle on, I have an even BETTER idea. Why don't YOU step up and provide the necessary factual correctives on escorting ? Since according to YOU, I can't possibly know what I'm talking about, why don't you serve as the font of knowledge ?
listen buddy. i don't escort, but i do work in the sex industry. and i am a woman. you are neither. deal with it. as much as you have friends that do, it doesn't mean shit. please understand this. and what you have to say has nothing to do with reality, unless you are a pimp, which in that case you still don't have the pov of a woman actually involved in the act.
im done with this thread and just because other girls take your advice and respect your opinions, doesn't mean i have to. you've proven yourself to me to be annoying and a groupie that is trying to fit in with "strippers" and "befriend" us to get ur cool points up. well minus 100 cool points for you. ha!
Eric Stoner
03-27-2008, 12:52 PM
listen buddy. i don't escort, but i do work in the sex industry. and i am a woman. you are neither. deal with it. as much as you have friends that do, it doesn't mean shit. please understand this. and what you have to say has nothing to do with reality, unless you are a pimp, which in that case you still don't have the pov of a woman actually involved in the act.
im done with this thread and just because other girls take your advice and respect your opinions, doesn't mean i have to. you've proven yourself to me to be annoying and a groupie that is trying to fit in with "strippers" and "befriend" us to get ur cool points up. well minus 100 cool points for you. ha!
Oh darn. I was counting on you to take over and set everyone straight.
Btw. I'm NOT a pimp ! The lowest of the low afaic.
ruru123
03-27-2008, 12:56 PM
Oh darn. I was counting on you to take over and set everyone straight.
Btw. I'm NOT a pimp ! The lowest of the low afaic.
wtf are talking about? take over and set everyone straight?? ::)
and yes i know you're not a PIMP, you just an expert on strippers and escorts.
Mr Hyde
03-27-2008, 01:17 PM
wow.....hadn't checked this thread in a while...spinning out of control...
Eric Stoner
03-27-2008, 01:31 PM
wtf are talking about? take over and set everyone straight?? ::)
and yes i know you're not a PIMP, you just an expert on strippers and escorts.
A post ago YOU said that I am NOT qualified to opine because I am male. You also claimed that ANY female opinion no matter how factually delinquent was worth more; was more valuable than any fact based opinions I cared to post. You also claimed that despite the fact that YOU are NOT an escort; YOUR opinions about escorting have greater value than mine.
I in effect said : "O.K. YOU take the lead and make it your business to correct the factual record on the subject." In future, when I get PM's asking me for help and advice, I'm just going to forward them to YOU because- YOU'RE RIGHT ! Men are dumb ! They don't know anything about anything. Having repeatedly flunked the physical, disqualifies me and any other man from imparting or sharing any knowledge except for Auto Mechanics and Bow Hunting. So I'm leaving it to you.
smartcookie
03-27-2008, 03:05 PM
Btw, what do you say to all of your fellow S-Webbers who value my opinions and especially those who have DIRECTLY benefitted thereby ? The gals who've gotten jobs through me; worked PP's because of me; gotten other work through me; thought twice about doing porn or escorting because of some thoughts I shared with them ? Are they full of it too ? What about your fellow dancers who post and AGREE with what I have to say ?
Why have none of them come to your defense publicly, here in this thread or elsewhere?
Why have none of them ever had any feedback (not just positive or negative, but any feedback at all) to report about these private parties you purport to organize?
Much like your "expert knowledge" of sex work and "insider status", your self-perception vis-a-vis how much your input here is appreciated by the women here is not very grounded in reality.
As a rule, it's wise to take those who catalog their supposed credentials ad nauseum, ad infinitum with a very large dish of salt.
Katrine
03-27-2008, 04:55 PM
I like casual sex, flashing, and giving free lapdances-to my friends outside of a stripclub, mostly my female friends.
I guess I'm a pathetic skank. Or...maybe some of us are just highly sexual beings that enjoy sharing and flaunting our sexuality. It doesn't have to be limited as a transactional commodity.
Troll...do you wear hijab everywhere but the SC where you are making bundles off stripping for the customers? I think not. Why am I even responding to this?
Oh yeah, I just wanted to share my enjoyment of casual sex, flashing, and giving my girlfriends free lapdances on my bed. ;)
Katrine
03-27-2008, 04:58 PM
I had casual sex with Eric Stoner, at a private party, where I made a million dollars doing airdances. After I made my million, I flashed everyone at the party and gave them free lapdances the rest of the night.
ruru123
03-27-2008, 05:07 PM
^^^ lol...hahahha...love ya girl!
xdamage
03-27-2008, 05:12 PM
There is one thing you can bank on, when it comes to the topic of prostitution, human opinions are all over the map and emotions often run very strong.
cameron_keys
03-27-2008, 05:14 PM
I like casual sex, flashing, and giving free lapdances-to my friends outside of a stripclub, mostly my female friends.
I guess I'm a pathetic skank. Or...maybe some of us are just highly sexual beings that enjoy sharing and flaunting our sexuality. It doesn't have to be limited as a transactional commodity.
Troll...do you wear hijab everywhere but the SC where you are making bundles off stripping for the customers? I think not. Why am I even responding to this?
Oh yeah, I just wanted to share my enjoyment of casual sex, flashing, and giving my girlfriends free lapdances on my bed. ;)
Hey skank..where were all the free lapdances on the bed and casual sex when you were staying with me in KW?? I feel gipped now!!:'(
Lysondra
03-27-2008, 06:06 PM
I flash truckers. I take business away from strippers.
FLAME ME NOW.