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Brendita
04-01-2008, 01:53 AM
It can't possibly be true that a very small measure of jealousy -- which is completely confounding at all, because any person who would be potentially jealous just has to friggin' ask me for something and they will get it and poof! there goes the jealousy -- by any measure outweighs the fun and enjoyment from a broad-based activity involving 60 people from the site.

Well in that case, can I please have a real live unicorn? Pretty please. I can make you a pin up style frilly apron in return. ;D

Bridgette
04-01-2008, 01:54 AM
I have to agree with those who say it doesn't make sense to ask us if we want exchanges to continue then tell us yall are considering trashing them and that you have a reason but won't tell us why.

What's the big secret?? If it involves certain people personally, no names have to be mentioned.

I just don't see how this method of deciding what to do about exchanges makes sense. If so many people are that against them, why aren't any of them coming forward and why is it such a big mystery?

aviendha
04-01-2008, 01:54 AM
I think we can agree that stiffing someone on their exchange gift is also in violation of the rules of an exchange (albeit a far crappier thing to do than surprise someone with an extra gift, that's for sure). Can we agree that playing by the rules is a good idea? I still haven't seen a good reason why it isn't.

As for jealousy caused by the value of one gift over another, that's easily resolved by implementing a spending cap, and I'm sure that if people feel that that's necessary, then they'll stick that rule in there for future exchanges.

fancygirl
04-01-2008, 01:57 AM
Well in that case, can I please have a real live unicorn? Pretty please. I can make you a pin up style frilly apron in return. ;D

I already asked for Gerard Butler. TOO asked but evidently GB likes blondes and would never consent to soiling himself with a brunette *sigh*

I got lush instead! Still great fun! esp. the perfume. me <3 perfume. nom nom nom! wait! *spits it out, and just sniffs myself copiously*

I want a pin-up style frilly apron Brendita!

ColetteCalahan
04-01-2008, 01:58 AM
i totally agree with you. i hate to say it, but it's just jealousy. enjoy your gifts girl!!!

what, because we're women, we're naturally prone to be jealous and need a male figure to be a fairy godmother??? what's up w/ the mainstream rhetoric? knowing katrine, brit and i, who are the people saying this, none of us are jealous, or harbor any of that shit. gimme a break.

BalletBaby
04-01-2008, 01:59 AM
Um, yeah, just because some of us didn't ask for gifts doesn't make us jealous ya'll. I was already getting a gift from my bunny so I didn't see any point in asking for anything else. All I wanted was the surprise.

aviendha
04-01-2008, 02:13 AM
Not to take words out of TOO's mouth/keyboard, but as he pointed out, it can't be jealousy because all we'd have to do is ask for a gift ourselves. *heh*

I wouldn't call it JEALOUSY per se, but I think that a degree of envy would be a natural reaction, not to mention the sense of exclusivity that goes along with having received a gift from a given person...I dunno. It just Makes It Weird(tm).

All Good Things
04-01-2008, 02:13 AM
So your justification for doing this is that more people feel good about it than feel bad?

No, my justification is that there is no reason for anybody to feel bad at all. Unless they didn't sign up for the exchange, never told me what they wanted, and then blew an artery in jealous rage because (duh!) they didn't get anything.


I'm not telling you (or anyone!) not to give people gifts, or participate in an exchange. I'm saying that the rules of an exchange should be adhered to in order to be fair to everyone. Why is that such an unreasonable request?

There is nothing in the rules that says multiple gifts cannot be given. In fact, there's nothing that keeps you from signing up 6 or 7 times and sending gifts to those people, or sending gifts off-board that nobody knows about (I've done that, too).

I think we have to be careful not to quash an activity that many people enjoy, not only because of the element of surprise and the generosity and thoughtfulness that goes into gift-giving, but also for the greater element of surprise from just never knowing what things are going to pop up and make the event even more enjoyable.

If we are going to impose draconian restrictions, or even unneeded ones, strictly to guard against the potential jealousy of a small minority of members, even through there is absolutely no reason for said jealousy, then perhaps the time has come to impose restrictions on all discussion of dancer earnings, successful hustling practices, best nights at the club, etc. for fear of igniting far more serious episodes of jealousy relating to deadly serious bread-and-butter issues. You know, instances where there is real reason to be jealous.

fancygirl
04-01-2008, 02:15 AM
Av, I can understand that.

I guess it comes down to (with some but not all people) wanting a gift but not wanting a gift from TOO because they have issues with him.

because if you don't want a gift from anyone but your person, aren't you too focused on your 1:1 exchange for any exchanges outside of that to matter?

All Good Things
04-01-2008, 02:17 AM
Well in that case, can I please have a real live unicorn? Pretty please. I can make you a pin up style frilly apron in return. ;D

I have one girl in mind for you. Do you prefer blondes or brunettes? :)

ruru123
04-01-2008, 02:20 AM
what, because we're women, we're naturally prone to be jealous and need a male figure to be a fairy godmother??? what's up w/ the mainstream rhetoric? knowing katrine, brit and i, who are the people saying this, none of us are jealous, or harbor any of that shit. gimme a break.


whoa, relax. breathe. seriously. you all are taking this way too seriously. if it isn't jealousy then what is it? why was it such a big deal to bring to the MOD's attention??? i didn't say anything about a male fairy godmother either..lol. i think this is ridiculous. it aint that serious. shit!

All Good Things
04-01-2008, 02:26 AM
as Darcy pointed out, it's the PubLIC part that makes it a problem- it's the fact that you use the exchanges as your own exclusive gift-giving campaign that I have a problem with. Can something not be both generous and really irritating at the same time??

It's hardly my "own exclusive gift-giving campaign." FG has 6 or 8 different people she signed up for, and there are 60 people total involved in the exchange. I am a sideshow that accounts for perhaps 12% of the gift traffic.

I also have gifts that have gone out without mention on the board. So not all my activities are public. God help us if I revealed everything -- I'm sure reason would be found to scalp me for some horrifying injustice there, too.

I am sorry that you find my willingness to give gifts to people who ask for them "really irritating."

ruru123
04-01-2008, 02:28 AM
It's hardly my "own exclusive gift-giving campaign." FG has 6 or 8 different people she signed up for, and there are 60 people total involved in the exchange. I am a sideshow that accounts for perhaps 12% of the gift traffic.

I also have gifts that have gone out without mention on the board. So not all my activities are public. God help us if I revealed everything -- I'm sure reason would be found to scalp me for some horrifying injustice there, too.

I am sorry that you find my willingness to give gifts to people who ask for them "really irritating."

how could that irritate someone unless they are jealous.

i find it wonderful. just WONDERFUL.

Bridgette
04-01-2008, 02:29 AM
TOO, it's not the gifting itself, but the boasting, ass-kissing and such that go along with it that irritates people. Like, we don't come here to feel like we're back at work!

aviendha
04-01-2008, 02:30 AM
No, my justification is that there is no reason for anybody to feel bad at all. Unless they didn't sign up for the exchange, never told me what they wanted, and then blew an artery in jealous rage because (duh!) they didn't get anything.

I have yet to see anyone making such a claim. I think everyone's pretty clear on the concept that you have to enter to win.


There is nothing in the rules that says multiple gifts cannot be given.

No, but the expectation clearly is that everyone is going to send one gift and receive one gift.


In fact, there's nothing that keeps you from signing up 6 or 7 times and sending gifts to those people, or sending gifts off-board that nobody knows about (I've done that, too).

Which I suggested doing in an earlier post. We're in agreement there.

I also agree that it's a good idea not to quash an activity people enjoy---until people stop enjoying it, and clearly the existence of this thread indicates that displeasure exists.

It's not solely on the burden of people to not feel bad at one person's activities. It's also on the person to examine his or her own motives for doing a particular thing, especially if it results in contention on the board.

All Good Things
04-01-2008, 02:40 AM
^ Well, we seem to be closer in agreement at this point. I am quite aware of the notion of "contention on the board," which is why I suggested that we do a blind poll to find out how prevalent the discontent was. So far it's coming in at 7% vs. 78% for continuing the exchanges, presumably, but not necessarily, in the current form.

Could I suggest that we shift our attention to the reveals thread and decide, based on what people actually say, whether this particular event was a success? It should be running at high volume all day today/tomorrow.

Since the sun is rising here, I will have to withdraw from this conversation and go climb into my box or the sunlight will kill me. It's a bitch being a vampire sometimes. :)

aviendha
04-01-2008, 02:44 AM
I'd say that when possible, the mods should disclose exactly what the issues were and how many people felt that way. For all anyone knows (other than the mods), there are 100 people who are really unhappy with the exchanges and have perfectly good reasons for being unhappy. Then, if the exchanges need to be modified, then those changes can be decided on and implemented.

Until we know what the complaints were and how widespread they were, it's all theoretical anyway. No point in trying to elect the president before we even have the primary.

All Good Things
04-01-2008, 02:49 AM
TOO, it's not the gifting itself, but the boasting, ass-kissing and such that go along with it that irritates people. Like, we don't come here to feel like we're back at work!

Most of the "boasting and ass-kissing and such" goes on between the ladies, right? 90% of the reveal thread contains screams of glee and protestations of how great their bunny is and how wonderful they understood them, their wishes, desires, etc. This goes on between the ladies and involves no male at all. This doesn't remind you of work, presumably, right?

I have a sneaking suspicion that you're mad at me because you pulled out and I couldn't send you the big ol' bag of cash (I went with your first choice). And I finally figured out a really cool way to do it! :)

fancygirl
04-01-2008, 02:52 AM
av, *shrug* true enough.

but if people who aren't involved are discontent is their opinion as important as those who are actually involved? Because then it might be that some are allowing a personal dislike of TOO to get in the way of people who are actually involved in the gift exchange and are fine with the current system.

we had 63 people in the gift exchange (and I made up six of them.)

63-5=58.

39 say yes, continue. 4 say no, bah humbug. and 11 don't really care one way or another (and some may be made up of people who aren't part of this exchange.)

I still say it's just a very vocal minority who have an issue here.

but I will also be curious to see what the mods say, and hope this can end peaceably. There are always compromises but $30 spending caps suck and NOT because I want something fab from TOO but because I want to spend what I want to spend and I bet others do too.

ColetteCalahan
04-01-2008, 02:53 AM
It's hardly my "own exclusive gift-giving campaign." FG has 6 or 8 different people she signed up for, and there are 60 people total involved in the exchange. I am a sideshow that accounts for perhaps 12% of the gift traffic.

I also have gifts that have gone out without mention on the board. So not all my activities are public. God help us if I revealed everything -- I'm sure reason would be found to scalp me for some horrifying injustice there, too.

I am sorry that you find my willingness to give gifts to people who ask for them "really irritating."

Oh please.. you can't compare yourself to Fancy, because she stayed within the ratios. Every person she signed up for is giving something back to her, and she more or less stayed within the $ caps. And don't twist my words. I never said "your willingness to give gifts is really irritating." What I meant to be irritating is exactly what Bridgette stated.

and ruru... since you didn't even participate in this and keep advocating a position that isn't helping to further the discussion in any direction... quit the jealousy nonsense. I now count 4 people who didn't like the public boasting and I can assure you none of them/us were at all jealous. Not to enforce the newbie thing, but yeah... unless you know who's saying what... :-X

TOO- I agree w/ blind poll. I do appreciate that you kept a few gifts off the record. I don't think it's appropriate to wave every little thing in everyone else's face. Does that make me jealous? No. I think it's simply a matter of what's appropriate in public vs. private. And for the record, I voted FOR the exchanges. I like them. I just think we need to tweak them a lil' bit.

aviendha
04-01-2008, 02:54 AM
If you really want to get a lot of bang for your buck, there should be a "two weeks after major holiday" exchange. Then you can really load up on all the holiday-related candy and paraphernalia for 75% off! (Allow two weeks to send)

Also, I'm not suggesting an el cheapo spending cap. Make the cap $100 if people are cool with that. (Or any given price.) But there's an awful lot of middle ground between someone getting a ring from the gumball machine for their exchange gift, and someone else getting a $10,000 pair of boots. In the current exchange thread, there's a minimum of $30, but no cap.

fancygirl
04-01-2008, 02:57 AM
and she more or less stayed within the $ caps.

not even close. I spent anywhere between double and four times the suggested amount.

I say this only to point out, once again, spending caps suck.

I know you're going after TOO and I'm not even on your radar but yes, I am pissed that you are now trying to mess with how I give MY presents.

ruru123
04-01-2008, 02:58 AM
Oh please.. you can't compare yourself to Fancy, because she stayed within the ratios. Every person she signed up for is giving something back to her, and she more or less stayed within the $ caps. And don't twist my words. I never said "your willingness to give gifts is really irritating." What I meant to be irritating is exactly what Bridgette stated.

and ruru... since you didn't even participate in this and keep advocating a position that isn't helping to further the discussion in any direction... quit the jealousy nonsense. I now count 4 people who didn't like the public boasting and I can assure you none of them/us were at all jealous. Not to enforce the newbie thing, but yeah... unless you know who's saying what... :-X

TOO- I agree w/ blind poll.

OK FIRST OFF IM NOT A NEWBIE, i've been a member for over a year, and have posted a million times. and it's just like YOU and BRITT to have a stick in your ass. WHO CARES IF THESE GIRLS GOT SOME SUPER NICE GIFTS??? i mean really?? don't you have anything better to complain about? and AGAIN this newbie BULLSH*T is stupid, i can post what i want, especially when i have a valid opinion. it's so obvious the whole thing started over HATE. and please don't ever tell me to :-X . that's not gonna fly with me.

Corgan
04-01-2008, 03:00 AM
ruru you joined in oct 07. just saying...


FIRST OFF IM NOT A NEWBIE, i've been a member for over a year

ruru123
04-01-2008, 03:02 AM
ruru you joined in oct 07. just saying...

does it really matter??? omg....again here we go with the posting rules. ::)

Corgan
04-01-2008, 03:03 AM
ruru, dude, i like you.

i just don't get why you're so passionate about this.

and posting rules?

fancygirl
04-01-2008, 03:04 AM
argh! everyone please consider that if there are blow ups, it's not going to matter who's "right" or "wrong" to Pryce. TRT showed everyone that. so keep it civil.

at least keep a lid on it until we hear more from the mods about wtf is going on aside from the exchanges that IS threatening the exchanges.

ColetteCalahan
04-01-2008, 03:05 AM
??? how am i trying to mess with how you give your presents?? i apologize if i got my information wrong, i thought i read a quote from another thread that said something else. jesus christ, i'm just digging myself into a fucking hole. I am not "going after" TOO. if this is "going after" then that's pretty sad. I've not once insulted him, I've stated a few times that he's generous & I appreciate what he's done for other girls (like lysondra after being stood up) but I simply disagree with the location of his gifting within the exchanges. that's all. Fancy, I ask that you not be angry w/ me for having a different viewpoint.

ruru123
04-01-2008, 03:05 AM
ruru, dude, i like you.

i just don't get why you're so passionate about this.

and posting rules?

lol. i don't know actually. good question. i need to stop trying to stick up for people. i just feel bad that something as positive as giving greats gifts and recieving them has turned so negative.

posting rules...people getting upset that you post if you're a newbie.


ahhh im over it, im sticking to the club chat and body business..lol....usually no drama there. or trouble i get myself into by trying to stick up for people and end up argueing with other people i don't even know or care about...silly.

ur right babe. im a dork

Corgan
04-01-2008, 03:08 AM
i feel that.


and for the record i never said you were a dork ;]

ColetteCalahan
04-01-2008, 03:10 AM
Ruru... I have a stick up my ass??? Hey... even when I disagree with someone I at least have the decency to keep it verbally civil. Cut that shit out. You weren't even involved with this... if you want to be passionate about god knows what here then at least learn some verbal diplomacy before you tell other members they have 'sticks up their asses.' That is NOT FUCKING COOL.

Lots of other ways to express how you feel before going there. The English language is a beautiful thing and people will get far less offended if you try not being bitchy. k?

ruru123
04-01-2008, 03:13 AM
this site is full of cliques. period. i think that's the WHOLE problem with the site, and i think thats also why gift exchanges are hated on too.

i am officially done with the site. hilarious.

fancygirl
04-01-2008, 03:15 AM
??? how am i trying to mess with how you give your presents?? i apologize if i got my information wrong, i thought i read a quote from another thread that said something else. jesus christ, i'm just digging myself into a fucking hole. I am not "going after" TOO. if this is "going after" then that's pretty sad. I've not once insulted him, I've stated a few times that he's generous & I appreciate what he's done for other girls (like lysondra after being stood up) but I simply disagree with the location of his gifting within the exchanges. that's all. Fancy, I ask that you not be angry w/ me for having a different viewpoint.

not you specifically. I was using your quotation about me staying in within the costs. I am irritated that people are wanting to screw with spending caps. and "going after" is not you, or just you-- it's this WHOLE thing.

I actually can understand a lot of the viewpoints that are being brought up, but I also feel that for a lot of people, it's emotional. not logical.

it's that TOO bugs, annoys or irritates you (or whoever.) I understand that. But that doesn't have anything to do with logic.

I can also see about 1:1 ratios, but once again those who are focused on their 1:1 ratio and want to keep it that way, are only focused on their shit. Those who appreciate the wildcard can also have it their way.

TOO's made it clear that anyone who wants a present from him can ask.
I like having this be a part of the bunny experience, and I both talk as someone who a) asked for a card even though I don't know TOO that well, b) had an egg who he gave a present to, and c) went over the spending limits.


I don't know who I'm angry at because there are still too many unknowns both from the mods side, and from people who want to end the gift exchanges, or people who want to change a gift exchange that is working for MOST of the people involved.

minorities can make their own dang exchange. why should the majority have to change or make TOO make HIS own exchange? wth?

and I still say that from now on exchanges should be moved to the member boards if that is going to keep it less visible to those who don't like TOO, or don't like how he gives gifts, or don't like how people he gives gifts to choose to display them.

there are way larger issues to deal with, and if something this small is going to trip a mass hissy fit then fuck, we all need to take like a mandatory week or two breather, and if that is the case, Pryce should just freeze the site with maintenance for that time period and then unfreeze it after that.

I bet this drama shit would end real quick because people would then focus on all the POSITIVE stuff SW does in their life community-wise instead of finding petty things to squabble over.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

ColetteCalahan
04-01-2008, 03:17 AM
I don't think cliques have anything to do with why the exchanges were disputed, but ok... umm, bye? I liked your butt while it lasted... for the record...

Lysondra
04-01-2008, 04:40 AM
Last I saw, she was jumping around squeeling about how excited she was about her big secret.



Most people got one or two boxes. She got seven. I don't think she's complaining. I'm actually really looking forward to her pics!



What makes you think I sleep? I walk by mirrors and no reflection appears.

One other thought: Lys, you and Mermaid had the major gifts last time, and you'll notice that those have been rotated to others this time. They get moved around. Between people who request gifts and those who get them because their month sucked, or whatever, it's a very broad, democratic process. The gifts get spread all over the place.

Hey I don't care about gifts! :( I was just joking. That's all. No need to get denfensive, I was just curious. And wow, seven boxes!

scarlett_vancouver
04-01-2008, 04:42 AM
Wow. yuck.

I support Colette, britt et al. And no, I didn't register a complaint with the mods :P. I like the exchanges, but I think the basic innocent community-building fun of them is compromised by the non-exchange gifting.

I've no problem with TOO gifting people, but not publicly. It's not jealousy (seriously tired argument! Do you think that if Colette, Kat or myself asked for something from TOO, we wouldn't get it? We'd probably get 2), and it's not wanting to make others miserable. It's about wanting an inclusive community that does not function by strip club rules.

I think this issue is a very small part of a larger problem that is currently eating up SW. It makes me sad.

Lola Rose
04-01-2008, 04:44 AM
ok, so wow. this thread exploded.

I will be so disappointed if the exchanges are banned, and would probably just do it through pm's and maybe a group acct somewhere, like a yahoo group for reveals.

Lysondra
04-01-2008, 04:44 AM
okay, I gotta jump in here as someone who had an egg who was shown especially favorable attention from TOO, and I am, of course, talking about Lysondra with the magic boots.

1. Lysondra got the boots way at the beginning. If my gift and her gift had arrived at the same time, yeah-- I might have felt shown up, but probably not because Lysondra is pretty easy to make go "SQUEE!"

2. Lysondra got stood up. it was one of the reason why I was esp. determined to make her box rock, to hell with shipping fees. Luckily, hers got mailed first and by that time I was like "fuck it, let's make everyone else's just as good, or as near as I can make it." So others absorbed that largesse just because of Lys.

3. I was wondering how Lys would accept my piddly little offerings, and then after getting to know her, I was like-- wow! her life (except her work life which I am jealous of in a good way) really sucks! (sorry, Lys. wouldn't post it like that if you hadn't first.) So I'm really honestly glad she got those boots because I don't know the ins and outs of what Lys's living situation is, but what I DO know makes me absolutely happy she got those boots and can get a daily remainder of human affection, completely altruistic or not.

4. care packages rock, esp.if a person has taken the time to find out what is going to make YOU happy. and getting mail rocks anyway. -shrug-

Ahahahahaha... wow! That's a really funny thing to pick up on but it's true.

Your presents weren't piddly at all. You spent SO much in shipping (I saw it!) and you got me the besterest things. And I wear my Hello Kitty in bed andandand.. I am pretty easy to make sqee. People don't normally actually notice the details about me, y'know? Just people noticing I exist and am human is a rare occurance so the boots + your thoughtful gifts made me SO happy. The hand picked charms.. he martini game...the book... the piggy... the stuffed animal with a cute face... you honestly truly paid attention to the things you thought I'd like and were SO sweet.

In real honest life...nobody does that for me. :hug:

Lysondra
04-01-2008, 04:45 AM
lol, eyeroll

Hahaha, what?! My car is busted up and I'm broke man... I need a headlight on my car, hahahahahha.... :P

Lysondra
04-01-2008, 04:47 AM
The Other Owner. the one catching a shit storm for gift giving :(

See what I mean? It makes people who GET the gifts feel reallyreally fucking worthless. Like... TOO HOW CAN YOU GIVE GIFTS and then it's like...well...thanks...I was happy...but um... way to make him feel shitty and me feel like I wasn't worth it.

Darcy Foxx
04-01-2008, 04:47 AM
Wow. yuck.

I support Colette, britt et al. And no, I didn't register a complaint with the mods :P. I like the exchanges, but I think the basic innocent community-building fun of them is compromised by the non-exchange gifting.

I've no problem with TOO gifting people, but not publicly. It's not jealousy (seriously tired argument! Do you think that if Colette, Kat or myself asked for something from TOO, we wouldn't get it? We'd probably get 2), and it's not wanting to make others miserable. It's about wanting an inclusive community that does not function by strip club rules.

I think this issue is a very small part of a larger problem that is currently eating up SW. It makes me sad.

i love you.

Lysondra
04-01-2008, 04:48 AM
i think it's more so the fact whether you see it or not, and whether people come out and say it or not, you VERY PUBLICALLY giving someone on this board a $10,000 gift which is then VERY PUBLICALLY flaunted to other members makes a LOT of people uncomfortable, and that is something that we mods hear about and are in a position where we must deal with it. yes, it probably is jealousy, but like it or not, it's there and it's a major, major problem.


Fuck I'm just glad my boots weren't $10,000 hahahaha.

Lysondra
04-01-2008, 04:50 AM
That was a hypothetical, not a real, $10,000 gift. I was using that as an extreme example of why a single gift policy does not eliminate a potential jealousy problem.

It's important to remember that Lysondra was completely stiffed in the last gift exchange. Her Valentine just vanished and left her hanging. I sent her those boots as a special case to make up for being left hanging in the air in a very public way. Moreover, the boots had become a running joke in the thread that we had a lot of fun with and I'm quite sure even Lys didn't think I was going to actually do it.

It was the exception in the entire exchange and not representative of the fun everybody had with all the gifts.

It can't possibly be true that a very small measure of jealousy -- which is completely confounding at all, because any person who would be potentially jealous just has to friggin' ask me for something and they will get it and poof! there goes the jealousy -- by any measure outweighs the fun and enjoyment from a broad-based activity involving 60 people from the site.

Not for a second. I thought the boots were coming about as soon as pictures of you without a moustache. ::) }:D :P

Lysondra
04-01-2008, 04:53 AM
not even close. I spent anywhere between double and four times the suggested amount.

I say this only to point out, once again, spending caps suck.

I know you're going after TOO and I'm not even on your radar but yes, I am pissed that you are now trying to mess with how I give MY presents.

I was gonna defend that too for ya Fancy! The gifts were at least $100 value + $75 shipping she spent on JUST ME. So Fancy wasn't even close to the $30. for JUST ME.

And yes I'm posting a lot in a row... I was gone all day.

Lysondra
04-01-2008, 04:55 AM
OH MY GOD WHY AM I EVERYONE'S EXAMPLE!??!

D: Way to make me feel really fucking weird and the cause of all problems, people.

I'm Fancy's example and TOO's example and AGGGGHHHHH!!!

All that happened is I was once stood up, TOO got me a gift. I participated again, and my bunny got me a nice box of gifts... really D: I'M NOT AN EXAMPLE. I'M A PERSON.

Lady Jade
04-01-2008, 05:08 AM
OH MY GOD WHY AM I EVERYONE'S EXAMPLE!??!

D: Way to make me feel really fucking weird and the cause of all problems, people.

I'm Fancy's example and TOO's example and AGGGGHHHHH!!!

All that happened is I was once stood up, TOO got me a gift. I participated again, and my bunny got me a nice box of gifts... really D: I'M NOT AN EXAMPLE. I'M A PERSON.

Don't feel bad, this is my first time posting in the thread, and I've been mentioned a bunch of times. I give up. You can't make everyone happy, that would make life too easy.

Lysondra
04-01-2008, 05:10 AM
^ I don't like it. :(

Lady Jade
04-01-2008, 05:13 AM
^ I don't like it. :(

Me either, but wtf-ever. I don't care enough or have the energy to defend myself against people who are going to feel whatever they want to feel anyway. Everyone is entitled to their opinion whether other people like it or not. Some people are going to get hurt feelings no matter what we do about the exchanges. Some of us are even going to continue sending things to friends we've made on SW, and the recipients are still going to post about it on SW. :shrug:

scarlett_vancouver
04-01-2008, 05:20 AM
Lys, I would suggest that if you didn't continually bring yourself up, you might be mentioned less. I'm not trying to be rude, it's just...that's what I see happening.

I know other people have mentioned you as an example, and if that makes you uncomfortable, maybe you could pm them and ask them to edit their posts? But it doesn't make sense to me to throw yourself into the middle of the ruckus and then be like "hey, why am I here?"

Not to mention that it would be nice if this thread could be used for positive discussion of the problem at hand (and 10 pages = problem, whatever side you find yourself on), rather than new issues that are, for all intents and purposes, between you and individual posters.

I'm not trying to be moddish. I am trying to be moderate in hopes that this thread can actually have some use, though.

Lysondra
04-01-2008, 05:22 AM
Lys, I would suggest that if you didn't continually bring yourself up, you might be mentioned less. I'm not trying to be rude, it's just...that's what I see happening.

I know other people have mentioned you as an example, and if that makes you uncomfortable, maybe you could pm them and ask them to edit their posts? But it doesn't make sense to me to throw yourself into the middle of the ruckus and then be like "hey, why am I here?"

Not to mention that it would be nice if this thread could be used for positive discussion of the problem at hand (and 10 pages = problem, whatever side you find yourself on).

I'm bringing up completely different topics than what other people are using for me as an example. :shrug: I'm mentioning how I fucked up and how I think that's what might be wrong and then it turns into my freaking boots again... I haven't talked about my boots in fucking AGES, other people bring them up. And it's always 'Like TOO and the boots, like TOO and the boots!!'.. and it's like... just shut up about the fucking boots already. D:

I only bring it up when someone else does to defend myself.

I don't mean to be an attention seeker, really... I just have a lot of free time and post a lot. :/