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holiday
04-01-2008, 10:47 AM
Maybe gift exchanges should stick to the spending limit and we could just have a separate thread with our Ultimate wishlists? I don't know, I don't really have a prob. with any of it, I'm just weighing in. Personally, I feel happiness when a girl gets a fabulous present from anyone and it makes it all kind of fun. But I can see the other side too, with keeping things on one level to avoid any sort of unfairness. And I know TOO has stressed that it all is fair because we can ask for whatever, but some people (like myself) may feel uncomfortable asking for stuff that we think is outrageous (yes, I'm probably a lousy stripper :D ).

Anyway, I hope I am not adding to the craziness of this issue, I am very calm and impartial typing this, so I hope that comes across :) .

LatinaRose
04-01-2008, 10:59 AM
I voted we should keep them! They are fun and if you don't enjoy, then don't click on the thread. And there's no reason to be jealous. I asked for something from TOO and I'm not getting it as far as I know, but does that make the exchange any less fun?? Hell no, I love doing these!! And I love knowing my friends are getting hooked up with really cool gifts that make them happy.

I really do feel like this site is just...not as fun and entertaining as it used to be. Maybe it goes through cycles, but I rarely post any more, just browse really quick and post on things I find interesting. I think taking away the exchanges would certainly lessen my experience on the site.

Sunshine73
04-01-2008, 11:01 AM
I say keep the exchange going. I wanted to participate in the Summer Buckets of Fun Exchange. I'm looking forward to putting a cool bucket together for someone!

All Good Things
04-01-2008, 11:05 AM
I asked for something from TOO and I'm not getting it as far as I know, but does that make the exchange any less fun??

Sweetheart, the link was dead so I couldn't track it.

Next time, please put it higher in your request list so it's easier to find. I have to go through 60 people's lists to see what they've requested, and it's easy to miss things. This one was dead last! :)

sassysummer
04-01-2008, 11:39 AM
sooooooooo, boobies?

yes?






:P

beauty21queen
04-01-2008, 11:40 AM
^^^^^I want something!!!!! j/k (some what ) Well I for one would like the exchanges to continue I dont understand why someone wouldn't want them .If you don't like it don't be apart of it.Why is that suddenly everyone is acting like were in Elementary School?

LadyLuck
04-01-2008, 11:44 AM
WOW! Ok I am now officially jealous. I had no clue that some of you were getting such extravagant gifts from TOO. I'm happy for you however being human I'm green with envy at the same time. Who wouldn't be, LOL!

Not all of us are going to be enough of his particular preference of wit, or beauty or whatever to catch his attention in that way and that's life. It happens in the clubs all the time. Most of us who have been in this biz for awhile learned to accept the facts a long time ago. We all have our own kind of strengths and weakness and it will appeal to different sorts of people both in the club and in day to day life.

And even though I am not allowed to participate (and honestly I might not even if I could due to being hesitant to have my name and addy available so easy on a public internet forum) I still say if so many of you enjoy the exchanges then they should be allowed to continue.

Other than the potential risk of sharing private info I just don't see the reason for the gift exchanges to be potentially brought to a halt. I hope the mods tell us soon though because I must admit I'm pretty darn curious to find out why it's up for consideration.

phillyvixen
04-01-2008, 01:10 PM
Originally Posted by phillyvixen View Post
I didn't read this whole thread but i will add my 2 cents
I voted for them to continue because i think the exchanges are cute and fun.
However honestly i'm a little salty that i went all out for my secret santa but never received my gift. I know who my SS was and even sent her a pm asking what was up and never got a reply back. (she is a veteran member with PLENTY of posts)
Unfortunately because of this i probably won't be participating again
I like stuff like this and it makes me a little sad that i won't play again so i don't get burned again.



out the bitch and let us make it up to you

IM not really comfortable with public lynchings :) But if someone wants to pm me i will tell them privately so this person is no longer allowed to participate in exchanges. I think thats only fair, if you flake you can't play anymore.

Now is this where i make my TOO wish??? ::)
:: Ponders ::
How about a Louis Vuitton diaper bag :)
http://www.eluxury.com/estore/browse/product_detail.jsp?id=10461142
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x18/phillyvixen/dipibag.jpg

Brendita
04-01-2008, 01:15 PM
I have one girl in mind for you. Do you prefer blondes or brunettes? :)

HAHA, nice.
My boyfriend said no, though. :( *cries*

Callyish
04-01-2008, 01:23 PM
OMG People!!! Get over it seriously!!

If you dont like the exchange, don't do it.

Who cares if TOO wants to spoil some girls?




BTW TOO i seriously need rhinoplasty.... *coughs and looks around*

sassysummer
04-01-2008, 01:31 PM
BTW TOO i seriously need rhinoplasty.... *coughs and looks around*


not before my boobs!

i beat you down!!





you know, in a loving way ;)

Callyish
04-01-2008, 01:35 PM
not before my boobs!

i beat you down!!





you know, in a loving way ;)

Ahaha! The thing is though.... i need my nose job so i can do the shoot for Penthouse :( I just can't afford it *cries*

scarlett_vancouver
04-01-2008, 01:36 PM
OMG People!!! Get over it seriously!!

If you dont like the exchange, don't do it.

Who cares if TOO wants to spoil some girls?



K, I'll call you out beause, well, I can ;).

Y'all need to stop repeating the same 'omg who cares omg!' and realize that that was not the issue here. The issues were

1. Safety

and

2. The spirit of the exchange being compromised for some

I think that yes, some people will take that advice and wont be participating from now on. I think that's too bad, and wish we could have come up with a compromise that worked for everyone.

sassysummer
04-01-2008, 01:40 PM
Ahaha! The thing is though.... i need my nose job so i can do the shoot for Penthouse :( I just can't afford it *cries*


yeah, well, i need boobs so i can stop shopping for bras in the little girls section, so there! :P




eta: oh oh oh! i know, he can get us both, and then we can take pics of your new nose on my new boobies! everyone wins! yeah!

Callyish
04-01-2008, 01:41 PM
Yea but my nose is cheaper then your boobs!!!

*sulks in corner*

scarlett_vancouver
04-01-2008, 01:44 PM
yeah, well, i need boobs so i can stop shopping for bras in the little girls section, so there! :P



Dude, that's one of the best parts of small boobs! Adorable, cheap non-underwired bras!

Vyanka
04-01-2008, 01:50 PM
I haven't joined an exchange yet. Wait til I participate on the next one at least. ;D

holiday
04-01-2008, 02:05 PM
Sassy, I think I want to get my bewbs done too!!! I really do. They are just seriously effed up from the little princess. I'm going to check out your doc. I've been looking at the guy in Eugene and a guy up in Vancouver. I can't remember damn names right now, but I'm sure I'll post links in Body Biz. to get opinions.

When TOO sends us checks to get ours done we can freak out together and get them done at the same time! ;D Boobie sisters.

sexysunny
04-01-2008, 02:10 PM
i haven't participated in one yet. i don't know if i can cuz i'm overseas but i'd like to. either way i would never want it stopped cuz it seems like a really fun thing to do. if people don't want to do it... then don't. if people do want to do it... then do. i don't understand why it is such an issue. maybe i missed something (have to admit i didn't read all 13 pages).

sassysummer
04-01-2008, 02:30 PM
Sassy, I think I want to get my bewbs done too!!! I really do. They are just seriously effed up from the little princess. I'm going to check out your doc. I've been looking at the guy in Eugene and a guy up in Vancouver. I can't remember damn names right now, but I'm sure I'll post links in Body Biz. to get opinions.

When TOO sends us checks to get ours done we can freak out together and get them done at the same time! ;D Boobie sisters.


whatever, i've seen yours and they are fabu!

but yeah, this doc in eugene was the president of everything, lol the fda uses him to to be a trial doc and he teaches and gives lectures all over the country...so yea, i want the doc that teaches other docs how to do it, lol

but, if you get yours done, i'll be happy to test squeeze them :P




eta: oh oh oh oh oh another edit, we get boobies, cally gets her nose and we get a pic of callys nose in between our boobies! yeah!


hehehe

All Good Things
04-01-2008, 03:52 PM
I think that yes, some people will take that advice and wont be participating from now on. I think that's too bad, and wish we could have come up with a compromise that worked for everyone.

I have a suggestion. I'll just withdraw from participation. Since I seem to be the fly in the ointment causing such discord among what appears to be the minority (fewer than 10% in the poll object vs. 72% in favor), it's the easiest way to solve the problem.

This would lower the temperature enough to make it easier to "save" the exchanges, which should be our overriding objective.

Then you guys can find something else to pick on me about. LOL ;D

Callyish
04-01-2008, 03:53 PM
Hey I wasn't picking on you!!!

I don't even do the exchange lol.

Though if I need to do one to get my nose done.. *coughs*

cameron_keys
04-01-2008, 04:10 PM
Well boo for you leaving TOO. I see where you are coming from and I would like to say that I hope you still participate. You should be able to have fun too...esp with all the happiness you give to others.

Callyish
04-01-2008, 04:17 PM
Well boo for you leaving TOO. I see where you are coming from and I would like to say that I hope you still participate. You should be able to have fun too...esp with all the happiness you give to others.


I actually seriously agree with this.

I for the life of me can't figure out why its a big deal if TOO wants to spoil a few of the members.

britt244
04-01-2008, 04:30 PM
I have a suggestion. I'll just withdraw from participation. Since I seem to be the fly in the ointment causing such discord among what appears to be the minority (fewer than 10% in the poll object vs. 72% in favor), it's the easiest way to solve the problem.

This would lower the temperature enough to make it easier to "save" the exchanges, which should be our overriding objective.

Then you guys can find something else to pick on me about. LOL ;D

its not about you not participating. why would it be so hard for you to participate, but just do gifts for the person you draw?

NewMoon
04-01-2008, 04:38 PM
But what if they don't use the information for good? That's the thing... That is why they are voluntary. I know it is a little risky to give my address but I am an adult and I think I can make my own decision about it.

NewMoon
04-01-2008, 04:43 PM
Absolutely not. I can conclusively say that trading other people's addresses on this site will be aggressively discouraged. People giving out their own addresses is one thing - having them given out by someone else is inappropriate on every possible level. I completed agree that it is entirely inappropriate to share the address of another person, but as adults we just have to be aware that there is that risk whether it's appropriate or not.

Lysondra
04-01-2008, 04:46 PM
That is why they are voluntary. I know it is a little risky to give my address but I am an adult and I think I can make my own decision about it.

You're missing the part where you're not making the decision.

stellaforstars
04-01-2008, 04:52 PM
You're missing the part where you're not making the decision.

Except that when you put your address out there, you completely run that risk, whether you make the decision to have it shared or not. You made the decision to put it out there in the first place, not knowing what others might do with it...and, of course, we now realize that that includes sharing it with other people.

And I think its a shame that people now feel they can't participate in the drawings...How sad.

Pretty_Penny
04-01-2008, 04:52 PM
ok look,

i thought about getting a gift for someone else who wasn't my egg because i found something perfect for her, but i couldn't do it in time. i don't even know her, but i think she'd love it. i still might do it during the next exchange.

i wonder if i had done so, if anyone would have had a problem with that. i doubt it.

i just wonder how fair the criticism is. i feel like if i, or any other girl for that matter, had done what TOO did... it wouldn't have been such a big deal.

fancygirl
04-01-2008, 04:57 PM
I see how it is Cam... ask for an ENGAGEMENT ring from TOO. Bad enough you got some milk, you want the whole damn cow, too?!

ROFL! that gave me a very important smile today. thanks for being hilarious, the both of you.

Aubreyyy
04-01-2008, 05:01 PM
There have been 2 since I've been here, wanted to participate in both, and couldn't. Even when someone vouched for me... B/c they didn't know me personally, I wasn't in.

Thats probably why some people want them stopped. They're kinda elitist. I understand the concerns, but I can see why some people think they should be stopped.

I put that I didn't care... I've stopped trying to participate or caring about them.

LadyLuck
04-01-2008, 05:05 PM
Ok, I know nobody really cares what a less than 200 post count newbie like me who isn't even allowed to partake in these exchanges thinks but I am going to say it anyway.

I think it sucks donkey dick that The Other Owner feels he should drop out now.

He obviously enjoys the act of giving as much if not MORE than anyone else. Not cool.

I hope all the people who complained are happy now. Boo, hiss boo!!!!

scarlett_vancouver
04-01-2008, 05:07 PM
I have a suggestion. I'll just withdraw from participation. Since I seem to be the fly in the ointment causing such discord among what appears to be the minority (fewer than 10% in the poll object vs. 72% in favor), it's the easiest way to solve the problem.

This would lower the temperature enough to make it easier to "save" the exchanges, which should be our overriding objective.

Then you guys can find something else to pick on me about. LOL ;D

Why'd you use my quote for that announcement? My post wasn't even related to you. :O

It's like there's two different conversations going on here. I don't get it. Was it mentioned anywhere in this thread that TOO shouldn't be in the draw?

Lady Jade
04-01-2008, 05:09 PM
Ok, just to put this out there...

I received a PM from someone who was in the exchange, and felt sort of... well, put off. Not because of the stuff that has been discussed in this thread, but because they felt like their bunny didn't take the time to really get them things they wanted. In fact, they received something that was on their do not want list. I think this may put other people off as well. Some of us spent a TON of time trying to get to know our eggs, following all of the updates to their wishlists so we could get them exactly what they wanted. It's not an ungrateful thing, it's more of a respect thing. While yes, it's the thought that counts, it's also not cool to get something that the recipient specifically said they didn't want.

So yep, that's my input. Don't shoot the messenger!

cameron_keys
04-01-2008, 05:19 PM
Ok, just to put this out there...

I received a PM from someone who was in the exchange, and felt sort of... well, put off. Not because of the stuff that has been discussed in this thread, but because they felt like their bunny didn't take the time to really get them things they wanted. In fact, they received something that was on their do not want list. I think this may put other people off as well. Some of us spent a TON of time trying to get to know our eggs, following all of the updates to their wishlists so we could get them exactly what they wanted. It's not an ungrateful thing, it's more of a respect thing. While yes, it's the thought that counts, it's also not cool to get something that the recipient specifically said they didn't want.

So yep, that's my input. Don't shoot the messenger!

I agree..and thats one of the reasons people with low post counts and newcomers arent allowed to participate. I would be a bit disappointed if I put time and effort into trying to make my recipient happy and I got something that showed no thought and was actually something I said I DIDNT want. But thats a bit of the chance you take...I'd just ask not to get that person in the next one I participated in. It wouldnt put me off completely since I know that the majority of people here wouldnt do that.

SundayMorning
04-01-2008, 05:24 PM
ok look,

i thought about getting a gift for someone else who wasn't my egg because i found something perfect for her, but i couldn't do it in time. i don't even know her, but i think she'd love it. i still might do it during the next exchange.

i wonder if i had done so, if anyone would have had a problem with that. i doubt it.

i just wonder how fair the criticism is. i feel like if i, or any other girl for that matter, had done what TOO did... it wouldn't have been such a big deal.

This is a good point. I wanted to get something for the past two people who gifted me because I wanted to thank them for their thoughtfulness, but one of them is in Guam and doesn't have an address and I lost the other person's address like a giant dork. But I really would have sent them something just cuz, and not thought twice about it.

I would feel bad if TOO stopped sharing his generosity. And I think that publically acknowledging the time and consideration (disregarding the cash altogether) that goes into his gifts is the least the recipients can do to thank him. I wish this were a non-issue.

I understand what your person meant, LJ. However, depending on when their list was updated, their egg may just not have read the "do not need" stuff before buying whatever it was. Plus, my PERSONAL opinion is that this is about sharing something special with a new person. The fact that we're getting a gift out of the blue is what makes it cool. I wouldn't mind if my gift came 2 weeks late and was nothing but knickknacks (on my "do not need" list) because hey, someone spent the time buying stuff and sending it to me just cuz. If someone disagrees with me, they're free not to take their chances on the next exchange. Or they're free to say "meh, one bad egg (:P) doesn't spoil the lot, let's see if the next one has better reading comprehension."

stellaforstars
04-01-2008, 05:32 PM
This is a good point. I wanted to get something for the past two people who gifted me because I wanted to thank them for their thoughtfulness, but one of them is in Guam and doesn't have an address and I lost the other person's address like a giant dork. But I really would have sent them something just cuz, and not thought twice about it.

I would feel bad if TOO stopped sharing his generosity. And I think that publically acknowledging the time and consideration (disregarding the cash altogether) that goes into his gifts is the least the recipients can do to thank him. I wish this were a non-issue.

I understand what your person meant, LJ. However, depending on when their list was updated, their egg may just not have read the "do not need" stuff before buying whatever it was. Plus, my PERSONAL opinion is that this is about sharing something special with a new person. The fact that we're getting a gift out of the blue is what makes it cool. I wouldn't mind if my gift came 2 weeks late and was nothing but knickknacks (on my "do not need" list) because hey, someone spent the time buying stuff and sending it to me just cuz. If someone disagrees with me, they're free not to take their chances on the next exchange. Or they're free to say "meh, one bad egg (:P) doesn't spoil the lot, let's see if the next one has better reading comprehension."

Wise woman. I must say, I'm a tad surprised, TOO, to see that you are allowing the nay-sayers to win on this one.

scarlett_vancouver
04-01-2008, 05:35 PM
Edited.

I dont even know what to say

SundayMorning
04-01-2008, 05:36 PM
I should have added a caveat on the last paragraph, being "now, if your 'do not need' list includes a box of one dozen starving, crazed weasels, I'd understand you being a little out of sorts when UPS drops off a box of one dozen starving, crazed weasels. But that's a rarity."

Lysondra
04-01-2008, 05:37 PM
Hey, I put three things on my egg's do not want list!! Hahahaha. She said no bath stuff and I got her lightup duckies and she said no food and I got her chocolate and she said no decorations and I got her like 4 of those, hahaha but they were all in a style I thought was cool!

britt244
04-01-2008, 05:44 PM
This is a good point. I wanted to get something for the past two people who gifted me because I wanted to thank them for their thoughtfulness, but one of them is in Guam and doesn't have an address and I lost the other person's address like a giant dork. But I really would have sent them something just cuz, and not thought twice about it.

i think that's very different. i know that i wouldnt feel uncomfortable about that the way i do about TOO's gifting. maybe it's just me, though.. and maybe people will say it's just because it's him. but it isn't. if stella, or lola, or someone that i consider to be one of my good friends on here sent out a ton of presents, i'd still think that was an uncomfortable situation.

scarlett_vancouver
04-01-2008, 05:45 PM
ETA: I posted while still angry, gonna go back and remove specific person references, stella can you please de-quote me, thanks.

Lady Jade
04-01-2008, 06:11 PM
I'm so done with this. We've been trying hard to understand why people aren't enjoying these exchanges, and when someone FINALLY gives a reason, "bitches can go suck eggs"? Fine. Whatever. I'm done being the messenger. I don't want the exchanges to continue because someone is always going to feel like their opinion is always right and any dissenting parties are bitches.

xoxoGracexoxo
04-01-2008, 06:11 PM
Some of us spent a TON of time trying to get to know our eggs, following all of the updates to their wishlists so we could get them exactly what they wanted. It's not an ungrateful thing, it's more of a respect thing. While yes, it's the thought that counts, it's also not cool to get something that the recipient specifically said they didn't want.

You know, some of this is just the inherent lottery-like qualities of a gift exchange. When I was 10, my girl scout troop had a secret santa exchange. I made my secret sanata recipient this barette/flower/hair decoration thingie that I thought was really cool. I spent a bunch of time on it. She thought it was awful, cause at that age home-made stuff seemed gimpy to a lot of people. So that sucked. And I got? The free toy that was being given away with the McDonald's happy meal that year.

You don't always get what you want, especially from total strangers on the Internet. We all know that going in, right? I mean, I didn't give my Secret Bunny a single thing on her wishlist, because honestly I couldn't afford any of it. Instead I got her a bunch of smaller, cool stuff and tried to wrap it in a fun way. If she were to complain to the mods that she didn't get exactly what she wanted, I'd be bummed. (Not that I think she would do something like that...she's a cool girl.)

The only thing that really worries me is the address exchange thing. Yes, I'm an adult. Yes, I decided to put my address online. I decided this ONLY after finding out that supposedly only my Secret Bunny would be seeing it. ONLY because I knew that only high-post-count posters were allowed in the exchange (sorry low-post-counters...you're not bad people...I just don't know you well enough to trust you.) ONLY because, basically, I trusted this community enough to think my address would be safe. Knowing that address trading was going makes me a little nervous. I got a post office box for my business in the last month, so I could always use that. But for members who don't have P.O. Boxes...what are they supposed to do?

Anyway, I love the gift exchanges and think they're a great way to get to know each other. I definitely want to participate in the next one, too. I just think there are a few unforeseen kinks to work out of the system.

And really, I have no opinion about extra-gifting. Maybe TOO should have his own gift exchange where girls just ask him for stuff all the time. Would that remove some of the confusion?

scarlett_vancouver
04-01-2008, 06:19 PM
I'm so done with this. We've been trying hard to understand why people aren't enjoying these exchanges, and when someone FINALLY gives a reason, "bitches can go suck eggs"? Fine. Whatever. I'm done being the messenger. I don't want the exchanges to continue because someone is always going to feel like their opinion is always right and any dissenting parties are bitches.

Well, what I wrote in my edit box was actually not directed towards you at all. It was directed towards the general situation.

I was unaware that there had been a request for anonymous pm's- I was reading your post as gossip, and I do apologize for getting angry at you if it wasn't.

You can be mad at me for 'always thinking I'm right', but I'll argue that we all do that. It's...having an opinion.

scarlett_vancouver
04-01-2008, 06:23 PM
If she were to complain to the mods that she didn't get exactly what she wanted, I'd be bummed. (Not that I think she would do something like that...she's a cool girl.)

No shit, eh? I'm in the fucking library trying my best not to cry right now. I'm not going to go all into it because I respect that the pm was sent anonymously and all. But seriously, I really did try to get something unique and interesting.

britt244
04-01-2008, 06:24 PM
you know what though? thats so fucked up because how many people were posting they were afraid that their person wouldnt like their present? and now someone is saying they didnt? thats just not cool.

Aubreyyy
04-01-2008, 06:28 PM
Too much drama....

cameron_keys
04-01-2008, 06:28 PM
I cant believe the bitchiness that has been shown over a GIFT exchange. Seriously people..war,famine,disease...is THIS really worth getting all petty and nasty over????

Can we not just have fun and be happy without people getting their backs up over a simple little thing?? Talk about true colors being shown...this is just sad