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Andygirl
04-01-2008, 06:29 PM
Maybe TOO should have his own gift exchange where girls just ask him for stuff all the time. Would that remove some of the confusion?

Lollerskates...............sorry, that just cracked me up big time.;D

Lysondra
04-01-2008, 06:29 PM
I say we have a milk and cookies and nap thread. How can anyone be unhappy with that?

cameron_keys
04-01-2008, 06:30 PM
I say we have a milk and cookies and nap thread. How can anyone be unhappy with that?

Fuck YOU bitch...how could you not take into account that some people are lactose intolerant...selfish bitch

Lady Jade
04-01-2008, 06:33 PM
Well, what I wrote in my edit box was actually not directed towards you at all. It was directed towards the general situation.

I was unaware that there had been a request for anonymous pm's- I was reading your post as gossip, and I do apologize for getting angry at you if it wasn't.

You can be mad at me for 'always thinking I'm right', but I'll argue that we all do that. It's...having an opinion.

My response wasn't only directed at you. There have been a bunch of people who have posted in such a way that makes people who have a differing opinion feel like they're going to be ganged up on if they actually post. I only quoted your post since you were responding to mine.

Really, we're all going to have opinions on things, but can we please, please, please try to respect opinions that are different than our own? Even if you don't agree with what is being said, it's not right or fair to call someone names because they feel a certain way. It doesn't accomplish anything other than making people feel even more hurt.

All Good Things
04-01-2008, 06:33 PM
its not about you not participating. why would it be so hard for you to participate, but just do gifts for the person you draw?

I did that already. In the Valentine exchange. I drew mermaidnz and sent her about 4 or 5 boxes, descriptions of which she posted on the boards, along with all her squeals and laughter and tears. That's when the first explosion erupted (and I'm not referring to the early reveal). It's when the jealousy started and she began to get nasty PMs about it, something I only found out about later.

Then Lys got stiffed by her Valentine and I threw up my hands and confidentially sent her a pair of boots --- the only reason it appeared on the board at all was that Lys posted an note on the board asking about how she had received an anonymous inquiry about her address from Elfster and what the hell was going on? So I went public at that point. I had so planned for it to be a surprise that the card with the boots actually says "the best gifts are surprises." Lys can validate that.

I set up my participation the second time where anybody could ask me for anything and actually get it, thoroughly eliminating favoritism, but now that's not good enough, either. The goalposts have been moved yet again, with the objections now about all the ass-kissing, and adulation in the thread, presumably directed at me, even though it's mostly the girls doing it for the benefit of other girls. Not me. My gifts account for about 12% of the total. The other 88% are girls squealing about the great gifts they got from other girls. But I still got hit for reminding dancers of their work environment, leading to comments like "this is not work for us."

Let's be honest. The biggest problem is that I'm male. This is a dancer support site and their safe haven for letting their hair down and sharing with their friends and colleagues. This certainly is the most valuable aspect of the site, and should be safeguarded above all else. To the extent that I'm a guy, there is no way that some of that animosity from the natural adversarial nature of the club is not going to sneak through. If you throw a great deal of money into that mix, it just ignites the gasoline-soaked rags on the floor.

You have to understand, there is simply no way for me to win at this. No matter what I do, it's going to upset people, some of whom are rather vociferous. I had one female member just sum it up as "I'm sick of the male patriarchy around here."

So I'll withdraw from participation. This represents a "clean sweep" elimination of most of the drama, and allows me to go to Pryce with a drama-free solution that hopefully will lead to his decision to allow the exchanges to continue.

Darcy Foxx
04-01-2008, 06:34 PM
I have a suggestion. I'll just withdraw from participation. Since I seem to be the fly in the ointment causing such discord among what appears to be the minority (fewer than 10% in the poll object vs. 72% in favor), it's the easiest way to solve the problem.

This would lower the temperature enough to make it easier to "save" the exchanges, which should be our overriding objective.

Then you guys can find something else to pick on me about. LOL ;D

as someone who has never participated nor wanted to participate in the exchanges, this is an entirely neutral point of view, but maybe it would be best if you either

a) continued to participate in the exchange but ONLY gifted your egg

OR

b) continued to send expensive things to whomever you want but keep it off the boards. do it in PM. if people want things, they can PM you. if you want to gift someone, PM them.

believe me, i understand that you are just trying to be generous and nice, i truly do understand that. but you don't seem to understand how uncomfortable it makes a lot of people. this is NOT a jealousy issue, because like you've said repeatedly, anyone can ask and receive. but a lot of people are not comfortable with even the idea that there is a rich guy on here who you can ask for presents and he'll send them. i personally would NEVER ask for a present from you, because i would feel like i was begging and that makes me very, very uncomfortable. i do not feel right asking people to just give me things. despite the fact that you're trying to be generous, it really, really does come across as a very 'strip club' situation where everyone is begging the rich guy for gifts.

now TOO, i am not attempting to attack you in any way at all. just giving you an insight into the point of view that others have been trying to put across. like i said above, i completely understand that you're just trying to be nice and put a smile on peoples' faces, but money is an issue that causes problems universally, all the time, and it unfortunately seems to be causing a lot of problems on stripperweb at the present time.

again, i don't think it's necessary for you to withdraw from the exchanges if it is something you enjoy. but i do believe in the sense of exchanges you should keep your gifting to one person.. as should everyone else. like, if you wanna send a heap of people gifts, cool. but do it outside the exchanges?

BalletBaby
04-01-2008, 06:35 PM
I say we have a milk and cookies and nap thread. How can anyone be unhappy with that?

Where did that cuddle thread run off to?...

britt244
04-01-2008, 06:37 PM
Let's be honest. The biggest problem is that I'm male. This is a dancer support site and their safe haven for letting their hair down and sharing with their friends and colleagues. This certainly is the most valuable aspect of the site, and should be safeguarded above all else. To the extent that I'm a guy, there is no way that some of that animosity from the natural adversarial nature of the club is not going to sneak through. If you throw a great deal of money into that mix, it just ignites the gasoline-soaked rags on the floor.

maybe so. it's not my problem, that's for sure. just wanted to put that out there.

Blade
04-01-2008, 06:39 PM
I did that already. In the Valentine exchange. I drew mermaidnz and sent her about 4 or 5 boxes, descriptions of which she posted on the boards, along with all her squeals and laughter and tears. That's when the first explosion erupted (and I'm not referring to the early reveal). It's when the jealousy started and she began to get nasty PMs about it, something I only found out about later.

Then Lys got stiffed by her Valentine and I threw up my hands and confidentially sent her a pair of boots --- the only reason it appeared on the board at all was that Lys posted an note on the board asking about how she had received an anonymous inquiry about her address from Elfster and what the hell was going on? So I went public at that point. I had so planned for it to be a surprise that the card with the boots actually says "the best gifts are surprises." Lys can validate that.

I set up my participation the second time where anybody could ask me for anything and actually get it, thoroughly eliminating favoritism, but now that's not good enough, either. The goalposts have been moved yet again, with the objections now about all the ass-kissing, and adulation in the thread, presumably directed at me, even though it's mostly the girls doing it for the benefit of other girls. Not me. My gifts account for about 12% of the total. The other 82% are girls squealing about the great gifts they got from other girls. But I still got hit for reminding dancers of their work environment, leading to comments like "this is not work for us."

Let's be honest. The biggest problem is that I'm male. This is a dancer support site and their safe haven for letting their hair down and sharing with their friends and colleagues. This certainly is the most valuable aspect of the site, and should be safeguarded above all else. To the extent that I'm a guy, there is no way that some of that animosity from the natural adversarial nature of the club is not going to sneak through. If you throw a great deal of money into that mix, it just ignites the gasoline-soaked rags on the floor.

You have to understand, there is simply no way for me to win at this. No matter what I do, it's going to upset people, some of whom are rather vociferous. I had one female member just sum it up as "I'm sick of the male patriarchy around here."

So I'll withdraw from participation. This represents a "clean sweep" elimination of most of the drama, and allows me to go to Pryce with a drama-free solution that hopefully will lead to his decision to allow the exchanges to continue.
Too, I respect what ya did for the ladies, but youre damned if ya do and damned if ya don't around here it seems as of late. I know I'm growing VERY weary of the drama and the bullshit that seems to grow daily.
The gift exchange was a GREAT idea, but now it seems to have released the demons of jealousy upon the masses and maybe it is time for it to be put down, before it corrupts the entire good karma behind it.
oh and i voted other because if it can become a beautiful thing again then i'm all for it, fuck i might even participate someday.

alessandra
04-01-2008, 06:45 PM
First off, why did I just read 15 pages of this? I even fell asleep in the middle of it...
Secondly, I was kind of looking forward to doing an exchange later on once I've earned my "stars", so to say, so let's please not ban them from SW completely!
I will be a REAL sad walrus with no bucket to speak of :(

TigersMilk
04-01-2008, 06:46 PM
Please read Darcy's above post. It should explain some things for you. As I've said earlier in the thread the gift exchanges are not going anywhere as of right now.

Does anyone hear me?

kitana
04-01-2008, 06:46 PM
hence why jenny has said repeatedly that it would be formally discussed with everyone before any action was taken. there are some new rules coming into play soon and the gift exchange may or may not fall under one of them, but it will be formally discussed at some point and until then you need not worry.


Darcy, PLEASE don't take this the wrong way ok love?

But the gift exchanges are voluntary not mandatory. Everyone knows that going into it, and I don't think that SW or the mods should honestly worry about it.

It's almost like an off site thing really, besides that all the exchangers are on this site as well as the reveal, lol.

I just don't get why a few people would complain about something they DON'T HAVE TO DO! Makes NO sense to me, boggles my wittle mind, lol! ;)

I mean if you don't want ANY part of it, then why take away joy from the people that DO want to do it?

I know you can't say anything more, and I don't expect you to honestly.

I just had to get that out, that's all. I don't get why some people want to ruin the fun of others.

stellaforstars
04-01-2008, 06:47 PM
as someone who has never participated nor wanted to participate in the exchanges, this is an entirely neutral point of view, but maybe it would be best if you either

a) continued to participate in the exchange but ONLY gifted your egg

OR

b) continued to send expensive things to whomever you want but keep it off the boards. do it in PM. if people want things, they can PM you. if you want to gift someone, PM them.



Oh, come now, Darcy!!! That solution is entirely too simple for anyone to accept it. ;)

BalletBaby
04-01-2008, 06:48 PM
Really, we're all going to have opinions on things, but can we please, please, please try to respect opinions that are different than our own? Even if you don't agree with what is being said, it's not right or fair to call someone names because they feel a certain way. It doesn't accomplish anything other than making people feel even more hurt.

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU. I see it in every thread where people have differing opinions.

I feel bad now because I'm one of those uncomfortable with the extra gifting in the bunny exchange. I'm not ganging up on TOO, I was just stating my opinion.:shrug: I don't see why we can't keep the exchanges and extra gifting separate.

(fyi, I voted to keep the exchanges going. And I think it's really sad that people were sending hateful pm's to mermaidnz and lysondra. They deserve the happiness they got from those gifts and so does everyone else.)

BalletBaby
04-01-2008, 06:50 PM
Please read Darcy's above post. It should explain some things for you. As I've said earlier in the thread the gift exchanges are not going anywhere as of right now.

Does anyone hear me?

I hear you.

Blade
04-01-2008, 06:51 PM
I REALLY don't get why mods have to discuss whether or not it will be ok for members to exchange gifts.
seriously, I don't see why (other than the reveals being on this site) it's anyone's business other than the members who choose to participate.
People need to grow the fuck up and stop the needless fucking drama, I'm talkin to the complainers here not the mods

Darcy Foxx
04-01-2008, 06:52 PM
Darcy, PLEASE don't take this the wrong way ok love?

But the gift exchanges are voluntary not mandatory. Everyone knows that going into it, and I don't think that SW or the mods should honestly worry about it.

It's almost like an off site thing really, besides that all the exchangers are on this site as well as the reveal, lol.

I just don't get why a few people would complain about something they DON'T HAVE TO DO! Makes NO sense to me, boggles my wittle mind, lol! ;)

I mean if you don't want ANY part of it, then why take away joy from the people that DO want to do it?

I know you can't say anything more, and I don't expect you to honestly.

I just had to get that out, that's all. I don't get why some people want to ruin the fun of others.

for the 459745967346th time. NOBODY IS TRYING TO RUIN ANYONE'S FUN.

please go back and read jenny's post. whether this is a SW sponsored event or not, you are still using SW as your medium for organising and promoting these exchanges and therefore regular SW moderation rules will apply.

All Good Things
04-01-2008, 06:55 PM
a) continued to participate in the exchange but ONLY gifted your egg

OR

b) continued to send expensive things to whomever you want but keep it off the boards. do it in PM. if people want things, they can PM you. if you want to gift someone, PM them.

We posted at the same time. The answers to your questions are in my post immediately above yours.

Jenny
04-01-2008, 06:55 PM
You guys:
need to relax. Everything will be fine. Solutions will be found. Probably many of the same things that are discussed here. I'm sorry this panic was started, but it is not necessary. Everyone breathe. If you cannot post without exclamation marks you are too excited about this. This was obviously a huge mistake on our part - but really. You guys are just freaking out over nothing.

kitana
04-01-2008, 06:56 PM
it defeats the purpose of the whole thing. if my egg had gotten a present from TOO i would be irritated. (no offense, pretty penny!) it's just - i don't know how to say it. i'm just very bothered by it.

:-\

I think I get what you are saying.

It's like if I had you and TOO got you a gift too, then mine wouldn't be as awesome no matter how much time or energy put into it cause his gifts tend to overshadow others.

Is that anywhere close?

britt244
04-01-2008, 07:13 PM
I think I get what you are saying.

It's like if I had you and TOO got you a gift too, then mine wouldn't be as awesome no matter how much time or energy put into it cause his gifts tend to overshadow others.

Is that anywhere close?

yup. not necessarily that your gift wouldnt be just as awesome, but say if i bought my person something, and he did too, i would feel like mine couldn't compete. you know?

All Good Things
04-01-2008, 07:14 PM
^ One less thing you'll have to worry about!

cameron_keys
04-01-2008, 07:17 PM
yup. not necessarily that your gift wouldnt be just as awesome, but say if i bought my person something, and he did too, i would feel like mine couldn't compete. you know?

But it isnt ABOUT competing...it isnt about getting the most expensive stuff or the most stuff...it doesnt matter how many gifts I got..I'd love them ALL. I'd simply love the fact that people thought enough of me to go out of their way to send me something. If you feel like you are competing...thats YOU,not the exchange.

britt244
04-01-2008, 07:20 PM
But it isnt ABOUT competing...it isnt about getting the most expensive stuff or the most stuff...it doesnt matter how many gifts I got..I'd love them ALL. I'd simply love the fact that people thought enough of me to go out of their way to send me something. If you feel like you are competing...thats YOU,not the exchange.

jesus christ. i guess compete was the wrong freaking word. excuuuuuuuse me.

BalletBaby
04-01-2008, 07:25 PM
yup. not necessarily that your gift wouldnt be just as awesome, but say if i bought my person something, and he did too, i would feel like mine couldn't compete. you know?

Especially now since someone admitted they didn't like their gift. I thought the whole point of this was the surprise and thought that goes into giving?

Aubreyyy
04-01-2008, 07:25 PM
^ One less thing you'll have to worry about!

Aww, I was really looking forward to having a post count one that that allowed me the possibility of being completely spoiled by you :(

I really do think its sad that you aren't allowed to give your gifts, because they sounded extremely thoughtful and like the made the persons WEEK!

cameron_keys
04-01-2008, 07:28 PM
jesus christ. i guess compete was the wrong freaking word. excuuuuuuuse me.

WHOA....dont get bitchy with me because I was trying to make you feel better by saying that people will like what you get it without comparing it to anything else.

britt244
04-01-2008, 07:30 PM
WHOA....dont get bitchy with me because I was trying to make you feel better by saying that people will like what you get it without comparing it to anything else.

really? because what i saw was "thats YOUR problem." and no, like BB said, someone ADMITTED they didnt like their gift. and you yourself were worried about your person liking theirs. so how can you say that the person is going to like it no matter what? you might. i might. but obviously everyone who participates doesnt feel that way.

SundayMorning
04-01-2008, 07:34 PM
It may not have been an issue of "like vs dislike." Some people have posted that they are allergic to Lush; if their egg bought them Lush products, it's more an issue of health than appreciation. That's one thing that occurred to me reading through the Reveals/other threads.

jaizaine
04-01-2008, 07:34 PM
I didn't take part in any of the exchanges coz I knew I'd forget to post the gift on time and fuck up the other person's exchange. I always forget deadlines etc so it was just a personal thing for me.

I do think it's a sweet idea tho.

I actually did almost sign up for the bunnies one but when I went to sign up and realised I had to put my name address etc I backed out coz that made me a bit uncomfortable.

The only thing that makes me uncomfortable is people outright asking a virtual stranger for gifts. I know he doesn't mind but it just turns me off and I try to avoid reading any of those posts. No it's not jealousy, as has been stated anyone is free to ask. I just would never myself ask. I prefer to take care of myself. Not hating anyone here so please don't read it like that.

All Good Things
04-01-2008, 07:35 PM
I really do think its sad that you aren't allowed to give your gifts, because they sounded extremely thoughtful and like the made the persons WEEK!

I actually did send out all my gifts. Nineteen boxes in all, I think. Unfortunately, it's one of the causes of discontent among a small, but very vocal, group of people.

Nobody is saying I cannot send out gifts next time. I am voluntarily withdrawing from the gift exchange to eliminate even the slightest possibility of drama attributable to me in the future.

cameron_keys
04-01-2008, 07:36 PM
really? because what i saw was "thats YOUR problem." and no, like BB said, someone ADMITTED they didnt like their gift. and you yourself were worried about your person liking theirs. so how can you say that the person is going to like it no matter what? you might. i might. but obviously everyone who participates doesnt feel that way.

I'd think by now you know me better then that but I guess not.

And if the person is disappointed that their gift wasnt "good enough" thats THEIR problem...again,this isnt a competition. This isnt about who got the best stuff. If people turn it into that...it ruins it for everyone.

And I always worry when I give things..thats just me.Has nothing to do with the exchanges. If I thought it was about some competition I wouldnt sign up for it. And knowing how much Summer wanted those socks..I'd venture a guess that she would love then even if TOO had sent her boxes filled with diamonds. Wouldnt make the socks any less good to her.

TheSexKitten
04-01-2008, 07:36 PM
as someone who has never participated nor wanted to participate in the exchanges...

i personally would NEVER ask for a present from you, because i would feel like i was begging and that makes me very, very uncomfortable. i do not feel right asking people to just give me things. despite the fact that you're trying to be generous, it really, really does come across as a very 'strip club' situation where everyone is begging the rich guy for gifts.


I just would never myself ask. I prefer to take care of myself. Not hating anyone here so please don't read it like that. - Jaizaine

:yes: I think it's awesome that you (TOO) are so generous and giving, but yeah. I would feel like a greedy strippah if I were to ask you for a present without you offering to buy me one first. :-\

To me it kinda feels like this could go in the direction of everyone "hustling" each other, which I would just want to stay out of anyway...

Which I probably why I haven't even opened any of these Gift Exchange threads until now. *shrug*

But whoever wants to, knock yourself out!

Lexi
04-01-2008, 07:37 PM
I think I figured it out thanks to my own fuckup.

Think about this: how many addresses have people gotten for people who WEREN'T theres and the person who's address it was DIDN'T give it to them? Like because of the exchanges you can PM someone and go, "I wanna send ___ a gift, can you give me her addy?" and ____ doesn't know her address was given to some random douchehead and now her address can be given by douchehead to other people and suddenly all our addresses are out with the exchanges being made an excuse!!

I figured this out because I did this for TOO. And I'm sorry. So fucking sorry. The two girls I did it to know I did it though. I shouldn't have. I'm sorry.


As for me, I am happy as a clam. Thank you for doing what you did. I had no problems with it whatsoever. :hug:

Thanks to you, and TOO. I just "*love* how people who received gifts are called ass kissers. ::) Alas, it was not. I am just that fucking fabulous. :headbange

;)

Whatever. I think that this whole thing is so over-the-top ridiculous. I dont see anything wrong with the exchanges. I only participated in the Bunny exchange and I loved it. I would totally do more if they continue.

If not, I would be sad to see them go because they really ARE a fun way to get to know people. Not JUST the person you draw, but anyone ELSE.

britt244
04-01-2008, 07:38 PM
And if the person is disappointed that their gift wasnt "good enough" thats THEIR problem...again,this isnt a competition. This isnt about who got the best stuff. If people turn it into that...it ruins it for everyone.

but.. it isnt their problem. if my person said they didnt like their present, i would be really upset. it wouldnt be their problem. it would be a huge problem for me. dont you think so?

and i'm sorry. i didnt mean to snap. im on the verge of freaking out over something completely unrelated to sw. you know i love you. :-[

Darcy Foxx
04-01-2008, 07:42 PM
The only thing that makes me uncomfortable is people outright asking a virtual stranger for gifts. I know he doesn't mind but it just turns me off and I try to avoid reading any of those posts. No it's not jealousy, as has been stated anyone is free to ask. I just would never myself ask. I prefer to take care of myself. Not hating anyone here so please don't read it like that.

precisely what i was saying before. a lot of people just don't like the idea of asking a stranger for gifts and it makes a lot of people uncomfortable. it's got nothing to do with TOO being male, like he mentioned above, if there was some rich chick on here and everyone was asking her for gifts i'd feel exactly the same way. speaking for nobody but myself here, i have a personal objection asking an online person for a gift because it makes me feel like a greedy hustling stripper. i don't believe it's polite to ask for things - and even though he's said to ask for things, i would actually feel HORRIBLE if i said, "hey TOO, buy me this". that being said, my personal feelings have nothing to do with any of the discussions that have been had about the appropriateness of the exchanges, and i am speaking purely as a member rather than a mod.

this whole thread is going round in circles.

TheSexKitten
04-01-2008, 07:43 PM
i have a personal objection asking an online person for a gift because it makes me feel like a greedy hustling stripper. i don't believe it's polite to ask for things - and even though he's said to ask for things, i would actually feel HORRIBLE if i said, "hey TOO, buy me this".

:yes: Exactly my sentiments.

SundayMorning
04-01-2008, 07:45 PM
To Britt: You can't control someone's reaction, babe, you know that. You could get someone exactly something from their wishlist and they could be grouchy because they wanted it ALL or they changed their mind or whatever. Can't control it. Hence, their problem.

I know how you feel! If Lola hadn't liked what I got her, then I'd be a little disappointed. But I know I tried, and I sent stuff I thought she'd like and could use. Therefore I'd pretty much get over it and look forward to the next one.

jaizaine
04-01-2008, 07:45 PM
- Jaizaine

:yes: I think it's awesome that you (TOO) are so generous and giving, but yeah. I would feel like a greedy strippah if I were to ask you for a present without you offering to buy me one first. :-\

To me it kinda feels like this could go in the direction of everyone "hustling" each other, which I would just want to stay out of anyway...

Which I probably why I haven't even opened any of these Gift Exchange threads until now. *shrug*

But whoever wants to, knock yourself out!

Glad Im not the only one. I can't even ask my regular for gifts or money unless I am dancing to earn the money. Recently I really, really could have done with a loan/gift of money that he offered me. I owed quite a lot of $$$$ to the tax department. He offered to give me the money, I almost took it but in the end I just couldn't.

In the same way i would never ask TOO for money/gifts. I have to feel like I earn something.

I dont even know if I should be typing this coz I don't want to offend anyone.
I absolutely fucking love Lysondra and she got boots from TOO which look hot on her. I have no problem with this situation.

Darcy Foxx
04-01-2008, 07:47 PM
Glad Im not the only one. I can't even ask my regular for gifts or money unless I am dancing to earn the money. Recently I really, really could have done with a loan/gift of money that he offered me. I owed quite a lot of $$$$ to the tax department. He offered to give me the money, I almost took it but in the end I just couldn't.

In the same way i would never ask TOO for money/gifts. I have to feel like I earn something.

I dont even know if I should be typing this coz I don't want to offend anyone.
I absolutely fucking love Lysondra and she got boots from TOO which look hot on her. I have no problem with this situation.

i'm the same. my wealthy regular bought me an iPod nano for christmas one year and i ended up giving him free lap dances because i felt bad about taking it from him.

i don't like to take things that i haven't earned and would NEVER actually ask for something. just doesn't sit right with me at all.

britt244
04-01-2008, 07:48 PM
To Britt: You can't control someone's reaction, babe, you know that. You could get someone exactly something from their wishlist and they could be grouchy because they wanted it ALL or they changed their mind or whatever. Can't control it. Hence, their problem.

I know how you feel! If Lola hadn't liked what I got her, then I'd be a little disappointed. But I know I tried, and I sent stuff I thought she'd like and could use. Therefore I'd pretty much get over it and look forward to the next one.

i guess im just different. if someone said they didnt like my present, i would be embarrassed and i really wouldnt want to do the next one.

jaizaine
04-01-2008, 07:50 PM
i'm the same. my wealthy regular bought me an iPod nano for christmas one year and i ended up giving him free lap dances because i felt bad about taking it from him.

i don't like to take things that i haven't earned and would NEVER actually ask for something. just doesn't sit right with me at all.

shit you're just like me in this regard.
I cant even stand it when girls ask for drinks at work. plus club rules state u must be offered a drink but u cannot ask for one.

oops threadjack.

stellaforstars
04-01-2008, 07:50 PM
^I hate to say it, because I like to pretend that I can just shrug off the crankiness of others, but I'd probably feel the same way, Britt.

BalletBaby
04-01-2008, 07:54 PM
precisely what i was saying before. a lot of people just don't like the idea of asking a stranger for gifts and it makes a lot of people uncomfortable. it's got nothing to do with TOO being male, like he mentioned above, if there was some rich chick on here and everyone was asking her for gifts i'd feel exactly the same way. speaking for nobody but myself here, i have a personal objection asking an online person for a gift because it makes me feel like a greedy hustling stripper. i don't believe it's polite to ask for things - and even though he's said to ask for things, i would actually feel HORRIBLE if i said, "hey TOO, buy me this". that being said, my personal feelings have nothing to do with any of the discussions that have been had about the appropriateness of the exchanges, and i am speaking purely as a member rather than a mod.

this whole thread is going round in circles.

I think that's what quite a few people have been trying to say, but then someone would say " oh it's just jealousy" and everyone would get defensive.

cameron_keys
04-01-2008, 07:55 PM
To Britt: You can't control someone's reaction, babe, you know that. You could get someone exactly something from their wishlist and they could be grouchy because they wanted it ALL or they changed their mind or whatever. Can't control it. Hence, their problem.



exactly my point..thank you!

krchab99
04-01-2008, 07:59 PM
I was under the impression this site for ppl 18 and over i swear to god this has gotten so stupid we need to stop all the drama over the dumbest things. I mean ppl are being nice and ppl are having fun but thats not okay we have to act like big kids stop it please and lets just enjoy doing nice for each other.

stellaforstars
04-01-2008, 08:00 PM
Cam and Sunday--logically, I see your point because you're both right.

But I would probably be upset still, the way Britt would because, after all, reason and emotion are two very different things.

britt244
04-01-2008, 08:03 PM
Cam and Sunday--logically, I see your point because you're both right.

But I would probably be upset still, the way Britt would because, after all, reason and emotion are two very different things.

of course! if we could just say "oh well. their problem!" about life, we would *all* be much happier people. but we can't. and i would be very upset if my person didnt like their present, even if no one else would (except you, stella - really, are you sharing my brain? :P ) like i said, i would be embarrassed and terrified to try again because i'd be scared the next person feel the same.

Kaylinn
04-01-2008, 08:03 PM
I'm not gonna get in the circles of this thread..but I am confused on one thing.....

Why did Mermaid get nasty PM's concerning her gift for Vday exchange?

That was a "legal" draw wasn't it? TOO happened to get her, he sent her and her only gifts.... So what was the problem there? That TOO went over the suggested minimum? But didn't other people as well? Sure, he may have went way over, but if there was no cap to the spending, then going over is going over...so I'm confused as to why she got nasty PM's about it?
People keep saying that this whole thing has nothing to do with jealousy...bu I honestly cannot see any other reason for her recievign mean messages.

I was disappointed she never posted pics in the vday reveal thread. I really wanted to see what "a year's supply of Lush" looks like.



I origionally voted to keep the exchanges going...but it looks like a good thing has ben ruined, so I would change my vote now to stop the exchanges. They just can't be fun anymore apaprently. Which is sad. The last exchange looked like the most fun yet and the best participation..I was lookign foward to beign a part of the next one since I missed the last two, but I dont think it's ever gonna be the same again.

I peronally I'm not uncomfortable with anything...if TOO makes girls happy, I'm happy for them. If it makes him happy to make girls happy, I'm happy for him.

oh, I suppose I have to add the disclaimer that I have no participated in any of the exchanges in question.

this whole thig just bums me out. When will SW be drama free and fun again?

The secret santa exchange was so nice..I made new friends, got to know new people...I really enjoyed it.

/sigh

Madcap
04-01-2008, 08:03 PM
It's SOO appropriate that this crap is going on on april 1st.

Geebus, ppl.