View Full Version : Everyone is leaving Stripperweb!!!!!
Alia_of_the_Knife
04-04-2008, 08:50 AM
I have disappeared an reappared several times mostly due to time management issues. Too bad each time I forget my freggin password and need to make a new account. I have been visiting this site ever since I was 18 (which would be 2003) and it has changed dramatically.
I really miss aussiepunkshocker's posts, I was sad when she disappeared, and it seemed that almost nobody else noticed, or maybe nobody else said anything either? /c
Ohhh.. and I can't believe that KrazyJane, Lilith_Morgan, and Cally are gone as well!!! Wha happened?!? 8)
TheSexKitten
04-04-2008, 10:10 AM
All 3 of them still post, just under different names. Well, K_J doesn't post a whole lot right now...
Alia_of_the_Knife
04-04-2008, 10:11 AM
All 3 of them still post, just under different names. Well, K_J doesn't post a whole lot right now...
I know, I was just being sarcastic.
Clara_M
04-04-2008, 10:19 AM
pretty sure she's still around under an alias too!;)
I think I'm slowly figuring it out! Thanks to everyone for all the leads...
I guess I don't spend ENOUGH time here to be on top of things!
TheSexKitten
04-04-2008, 10:44 AM
oh, duh. i just woke up!
kaiarose
04-04-2008, 11:02 AM
You hit the nail on the head. This thread is a perfect example. Half the thread is gratuitous flirty bullshit. Much of it posted by people I like, I should add. But it's gotten way out of hand, and has been this way for about two years, or a bit longer.
If you bitch about the flirty mindless fluff driving the site into the ground, and chasing away people who come here to get away from the bullshit and stupid games we have to deal with at work every night, you are an asshole, trying to ruin and spoil all the fun for everyone else. Well I'm sorry, but I see quite enough gratuitous flirty bullshit at work, 4-5 nights a week. I joined SW to get away from it, and carry on intelligent conversation with like-minded industry members, and the occasional enlightened customer.
It's still by far he best site of it's kind. I would like to see it stay that way.
I couldn't have said it better. This is a site for Adults in the Adult Industry and all this baby talk b.s. and middle school, yes middle school, holding hands skipping down the road stuff has got to tone down. I go to certain threads to get advice or put in some and it turns into talking about who wuvs who and blah, blah, blah... So yea there's my two cents. Who's going to yell at me??
Callyish
04-04-2008, 01:28 PM
Ohhh.. and I can't believe that KrazyJane, Lilith_Morgan, and Cally are gone as well!!! Wha happened?!? 8)
Im slowly fading out of SW. I have no time for it anymore and the drama and BS has gotten to me. Oh and ftr I realize that there are many times I am part of the drama. Either way its just making me lose interest in SW. There is way to much hating on here lately and its sickening.
*clears out inbox so she can get more hate mail for this post*
cameron_keys
04-04-2008, 01:38 PM
Im slowly fading out of SW. I have no time for it anymore and the drama and BS has gotten to me. Oh and ftr I realize that there are many times I am part of the drama. Either way its just making me lose interest in SW. There is way to much hating on here lately and its sickening.
*clears out inbox so she can get more hate mail for this post*
make sure you email or call me if you leave...I want my Cally lovin' one day!
beauty21queen
04-04-2008, 01:41 PM
Im slowly fading out of SW. I have no time for it anymore and the drama and BS has gotten to me. Oh and ftr I realize that there are many times I am part of the drama. Either way its just making me lose interest in SW. There is way to much hating on here lately and its sickening.
*clears out inbox so she can get more hate mail for this post*
You've been getting hate mail? Thats so stupid, for what exactly? expressing your opinion?
BrunetteGoddess
04-04-2008, 01:47 PM
Wow, B21Q, I was going to ask the same question! LOL.
I have started fading out as well. I don't think I will leave completely anytime soon, but the same topics, same drama, and the fact that I get nothing done due to SW sometimes (;D) makes it less appealing than it used to. Yeah, it has changed a lot. Most of the time I only log on to lurk, and end not posting a damn thing in 6 pages of new posts. Hey, my choice, right?
Andygirl
04-04-2008, 01:52 PM
If you bitch about the flirty mindless fluff driving the site into the ground, and chasing away people who come here to get away from the bullshit and stupid games we have to deal with at work every night, you are an asshole, trying to ruin and spoil all the fun for everyone else. Well I'm sorry, but I see quite enough gratuitous flirty bullshit at work, 4-5 nights a week. I joined SW to get away from it, and carry on intelligent conversation with like-minded industry members, and the occasional enlightened customer.
I couldn't have said it better myself. But I'm pretty sure everyone has me on "ignore" so it's probably good that you said it instead, lol.
BrunetteGoddess
04-04-2008, 02:08 PM
I do not have you on ignore. ;)
Dottie Rebel
04-04-2008, 02:27 PM
^^^I've been wanting to say something about this for a long time. I wasn't sure exactly how to express it because whenever the point is brought up, offenders cry, "How are we harming you by making friends and having a good time." It's a good point. Who is to say the wubby wub wubbles set has no right to their chosen style and, er, quantity of speech?
But it's a matter of respect, I guess. It should be abundantly clear to these people at this point that this fakey, flirty crap drives folks away. It is part of the reason I'm not a more regular contributor to the site. I am not jealous nor do I feel excluded. It's just annoying and feels fake. Whenever I see someone say they "love" someone they've only known a month through an internet site it makes me roll my eyes so far into the back of my head that I feel they may never return.
jaizaine
04-04-2008, 02:38 PM
Im so glad this issue is out in the open. I hate the ass kissing, fake compliments and flirting bullshit.
As for the crush thread - that's just stupid IMO. How can you have a crush on someone you don't know? I guess I don't get it. Maybe if you have had extended communications with people, I dunno just don't get it.
But it would be great to see less bs threads like that and more adult topics.
Farrah_Holiday
04-04-2008, 02:48 PM
It is sad! I've thought of taking a little vacay from SW myself as of late. It seems like all the good posters are leaving. That being said, I wish people wouldn't delete their entire account when they leave. In the past when I've needed a break, I just quit posting for a while. Once I think I left for almost 2 yrs, kept my account active though.
Why can't the "look at me" ones leave? I don't wanna read a kajillion posts of "I'm so cute! Your so cute! Aren't we all so fuckin cute!" The babystrippers sometimes feed the trolls to excess. Seriously, don't they get enough of that crap at work? I fear one day soon they are going to get the entire site shut down with their antics.
The 2nd part of your post cracked me the f-up !!
I often take long breaks too but,only because of my time constraints.
I can't be away from SW for 2 long though ! The people here ROCK !
Bridgette
04-04-2008, 03:38 PM
*clears out inbox so she can get more hate mail for this post*Seriously?? I can't help finding it a bit hard to believe people get that much hate mail here. I mean, I *know* I post alot of shit people don't like and I never ever get hate mail. Ever. And I don't believe I'm somehow immune to it. Of course if I did get hate mail I'd promptly tell the sender to get fucked while LMAO. I mean really, how 4th grade...
britt244
04-04-2008, 03:40 PM
I couldn't have said it better myself. But I'm pretty sure everyone has me on "ignore" so it's probably good that you said it instead, lol.
i dont have you on ignore.. and i'm happy to see this avatar back bc i think its pretty :)
and NO im not being flirty. except i dont think you guys are talking about me bc i dont really do that...
miabella
04-04-2008, 03:40 PM
i gotta say, the rudeness i get from certain chicks on here (absolutely never male posters, not even the jerky ones, which is telling) is pretty irritating because i'm one of those non-catty women who has trouble processing cattiness. and rude comments to me by one girl tend to result in a sudden pile on by many others, rather than it being a quick and simple exchange with the girl who felt i picked on her or vice versa.
that's more frustrating than the flirty stuff. although plenty of the catty types do the flirty stuff too, which is not surprising.
i'm not emailing anyone because we're all adults here and if you think you've done wrong to someone at some point, you did, so it's passive-aggressive to demand they notify you about it.
and i'm not leaving. i was here before pretty well all the catty clique types who like to pile on, and i'll be here after they leave for shinier targets. seniority, bitches! i do find it amusing that some of the most rude comments i've gotten were from people who have been here 1/3 of the time i have. it's funny.
i think that is much of what colors my perception of the rudeness levelled by some. so much of it does seem to come from girls who are relative n00bs to the site. when i first got my account and was posting, it was nothing like how it gets now. even in 2005 it was still pretty ok, and for much of 2006. the last year or so, it's gotten just appalling, with many posters feeling like they can barely utter an opinion without having to wade through a bunch of catty-clique retorts. it's like the n00b types waited until they'd been here a year or two and had what they felt was seniority and then decided to rip into anyone who was 'unpopular' or who had small amounts of comments, or was male, or, well you get the drift.
anyway, obviously the rudeness hasn't driven me away. oh if only i'd thought to get an account in 2003, i'd be so uberl33t...
/drama.
I think people invent the hate mail shit.
What I do is send myself a PM so my inbox and sent folders fill up quickly. That way, if somebody PMs me, they get the "Sh0t's mailbox is full" notice and think I'm more popular than I really am.
Then I can get threads made about how I need to clean out my pms
austinatalie
04-04-2008, 04:17 PM
I have an idea! What if we added a completely separate area for Flirting or whatever. It's always been my opinion that the Lounge is too big anyway. We fill up a whole page in the lounge in less than a day, and much of it is this 'flirting' type stuff.
It could encompass all threads like The Random Thread, all the 'what I did today' type threads, the SWfest threads, the Gift Exchange threads, the Cuddles, the 'I'm sad because" threads, and all others that usually devolve into what's being discussed here.
It would kind of be like chat, I suppose, but a little slower.
Then it would be one step away from everyone else, and if you didn't want to see it, you wouldn't click on that forum.
Hopefully, it would help keep all the other forums and threads on topic.
I also think that this manner of behavior will never go away, so better to give it a place.
And you better believe I would be a regular fixture there!
seraya
04-04-2008, 04:24 PM
Miabella I agree you have been treated unfairly.. . I know that many here disagree with your views on certain issues and may find your bluntness off putting but some of the responses that you have received have been down right disrespectful and uncalled for.
At first I was surprised to read about all the hate mail being sent via PMs but it really isn't all that shocking when I think about it. ::)
It is apparent that there are a lot deeply insecure people posting on SW nowadays. It's sad to see the way members here compete for attention by being bitchy, creating drama, sucking up, post whoring and the like. I know for a fact that many individuals here front by acting catty and bitchy because they think that shit looks cute and makes them appear confident and out spoken; when they know damn well that IRL they wouldn't have the BALLS to behave in such a way.
stellaforstars
04-04-2008, 04:25 PM
Since this will likely be my last time signed on to SW (no, not because I'm butt-hurt, drama whores), I figure I might as well say what I think.
Seraya, you asked why I became so defensive. Read the last few pages of this thread. It really shouldn't be that hard to figure out.
Thank you, almighty Veteran Members for making me feel so extremely unwelcome on the boards. Although I might be the only one ballsy enough to say it (largely, in part, because I'm sure I won't be here much longer), I am not the only one who feels this way--by a long shot. It's not whining or "Oh poor me" or any of the bullshit accusations I'm sure will come flying my way at this point. I'm not going to cry at night due to being taunted by "mean strippers." It's just fact. The very people accusing us of being flirty and 'cliquey' never seem to have a problem banding together in a group to hurl accusations about terrible cattiness. Interesting, that when it is the one group of black sheep on SW, it is terrific drama, but when it's pages and pages of all of you, they're all extremely valid points that have so desperately been needed to be discussed--despite the fact that many threads in the last two weeks have done the exact same thing.
I hope no one is chased off the boards due to this behavior, but it wouldn't surprise me a bit if they were.
TheSexKitten
04-04-2008, 04:27 PM
it's like the n00b types waited until they'd been here a year or two and had what they felt was seniority and then decided to rip into anyone who was 'unpopular' or who had small amounts of comments, or was male, or, well you get the drift.
/drama.
:yes: Very well said!
TigersMilk
04-04-2008, 04:27 PM
Everyone wants to complain but barely anyone has solutions.
austinatalie
04-04-2008, 04:28 PM
^I has solution?
beauty21queen
04-04-2008, 04:29 PM
^^^Exactly
scarlett_vancouver
04-04-2008, 04:33 PM
I have an idea! What if we added a completely separate area for Flirting or whatever. It's always been my opinion that the Lounge is too big anyway. We fill up a whole page in the lounge in less than a day, and much of it is this 'flirting' type stuff.
It could encompass all threads like The Random Thread, all the 'what I did today' type threads, the SWfest threads, the Gift Exchange threads, the Cuddles, the 'I'm sad because" threads, and all others that usually devolve into what's being discussed here.
It would kind of be like chat, I suppose, but a little slower.
Then it would be one step away from everyone else, and if you didn't want to see it, you wouldn't click on that forum.
Hopefully, it would help keep all the other forums and threads on topic.
I also think that this manner of behavior will never go away, so better to give it a place.
And you better believe I would be a regular fixture there!
GREAT idea. How about member boards, for now?
beauty21queen
04-04-2008, 04:33 PM
Everyone is basically complaining about flirting and people being bitchy .There is a solution its called the "ignore" button use it. Since there are some members that say it's the same people and it annoy's you ....use it,if not deal with it, because people are not going to change.
beauty21queen
04-04-2008, 04:34 PM
GREAT idea. How about member boards, for now?
BUT some of us want to become Goddesses you know!!!:D
austinatalie
04-04-2008, 04:34 PM
GREAT idea. How about member boards, for now?
Yes, I do think so. For instance, the pie thread is already there...
I think it's okay that Member Boards doesn't give you postcount, because then it means that if you achieve Goddess Status, then you actually have contributed some advice to the board, and not just 2000 posts of fluff.
cameron_keys
04-04-2008, 04:34 PM
Ugh...so people complain about bitchiness,complain about being nice,complain about flirtiness..theres just no pleasing everyone.
I want to know what the exact formula is to # of posts,level of bitchyness and level of love you are allowed to show without retort...
beauty21queen
04-04-2008, 04:36 PM
Ugh...so people complain about bitchiness,complain about being nice,complain about flirtiness..theres just no pleasing everyone.
I want to know what the exact formula is to # of posts,level of bitchyness and level of love you are allowed to show without retort...
LOL its because we are women and all we do is complain !:D
AznExtasy
04-04-2008, 04:37 PM
The solution is not that hard. Seriously.
I am willing to like everybody. I am willing to reach out and give everybody an equal chance and hope for the same in return. Except the male posters who are misogynist and an overall huge pain in the ass.
TigersMilk
04-04-2008, 04:38 PM
Ugh...so people complain about bitchiness,complain about being nice,complain about flirtiness..theres just no pleasing everyone.
I want to know what the exact formula is to # of posts,level of bitchyness and level of love you are allowed to show without retort...
Cam, you know there is not magic post number. Maybe you are saying that as a means to make a point.
Thanks austinatalie. For now, member boards is an excellent place for all that mumbo jumbo currently going on. If anyone else thinks this a good idea or not please speak up.
BrunetteGoddess
04-04-2008, 04:39 PM
Well, I was just trying to clarify what I thought people were unhappy with in my earlier post.
Me myself, I am fine with just ignoring it. Yeah it's a turn-off sometimes, but if the thread really strikes my fancy with the original topic, I'll wade through the fluff/snark. Seems like people just need to exhibit a bit more patience than they're used to if they want to be active on SW, and try to be role models for acceptable behavior. Me myself, I have been trying very hard to work on that.
And I think Natalie's suggestion is an excellent one.
krchab99
04-04-2008, 04:41 PM
These drama thread are frustraitng me but its like a trainwreck i can 't look away lol but its my fault if i get upset about it if i don't like it i can always click off of it. There is more to this board then drama my fav is body busieness i can got there read stuff that intreasts me with out drama. There is no reason to leave sw atleast not for me. i do kinda wish we would get over the grade school shit tho.
cameron_keys
04-04-2008, 04:44 PM
Cam, you know there is not magic post number. Maybe you are saying that as a means to make a point.
Yes it was just to make a point. If you post too much,you are a "post whore" ..if you dont post enough you are a "newbie" and untrustworthy....if you are nice to everyone you are a "kiss ass", if you are not nice you are a "bitch"...there doesnt seem to be any happy medium with some people...we arent zombies..we are humans. There is emotion involved...and I for one would MUCH rather see some "i wub you" posting as opposed to "I hate you" that has been going around....
BrunetteGoddess
04-04-2008, 04:47 PM
If being nice is considering a 'kiss ass', then :puckerup: :butthead:
;)
beauty21queen
04-04-2008, 04:49 PM
I just noticed i've been here for 2 years.That's pretty cool I guess.
SundayMorning
04-04-2008, 04:53 PM
Well, I was just trying to clarify what I thought people were unhappy with in my earlier post.
Me myself, I am fine with just ignoring it. Yeah it's a turn-off sometimes, but if the thread really strikes my fancy with the original topic, I'll wade through the fluff/snark. Seems like people just need to exhibit a bit more patience than they're used to if they want to be active on SW, and try to be role models for acceptable behavior. Me myself, I have been trying very hard to work on that.
And I think Natalie's suggestion is an excellent one.
100% agreed.
Yes it was just to make a point. If you post too much,you are a "post whore" ..if you dont post enough you are a "newbie" and untrustworthy....if you are nice to everyone you are a "kiss ass", if you are not nice you are a "bitch"...there doesnt seem to be any happy medium with some people...we arent zombies..we are humans. There is emotion involved...and I for one would MUCH rather see some "i wub you" posting as opposed to "I hate you" that has been going around....
Also 100% agreed. But I just gotta clarify...are you a lepord?
I was about to come on and ask for a sub-Lounge where we could be off-off-topic and people would know what to expect. But austinatalie did an excellent job of proposing that already and I hope it takes flight...and our members, all of them, don't.
Andygirl
04-04-2008, 05:00 PM
Since this will likely be my last time signed on to SW (no, not because I'm butt-hurt, drama whores), I figure I might as well say what I think.
Seraya, you asked why I became so defensive. Read the last few pages of this thread. It really shouldn't be that hard to figure out.
Thank you, almighty Veteran Members for making me feel so extremely unwelcome on the boards. Although I might be the only one ballsy enough to say it (largely, in part, because I'm sure I won't be here much longer), I am not the only one who feels this way--by a long shot. It's not whining or "Oh poor me" or any of the bullshit accusations I'm sure will come flying my way at this point. I'm not going to cry at night due to being taunted by "mean strippers." It's just fact. The very people accusing us of being flirty and 'cliquey' never seem to have a problem banding together in a group to hurl accusations about terrible cattiness. Interesting, that when it is the one group of black sheep on SW, it is terrific drama, but when it's pages and pages of all of you, they're all extremely valid points that have so desperately been needed to be discussed--despite the fact that many threads in the last two weeks have done the exact same thing.
I hope no one is chased off the boards due to this behavior, but it wouldn't surprise me a bit if they were.
I must be missing something because I haven't seen your name mentioned. If you recognize your own posting pattern as matching what some people are bitching about, that's one thing, but it isn't like you are being called out by any of the members. From this one post, it certainly does seem like you are butthurt and trying to make sure we all know it. Seriously, what do you think "I'm leaving and won't be back" type of statements really say about a person? Talk about drama. ::)
Lady Jade
04-04-2008, 05:02 PM
I must be missing something because I haven't seen your name mentioned. If you recognize your own posting pattern as matching what some people are bitching about, that's one thing, but it isn't like you are being called out by any of the members. From this one post, it certainly does seem like you are butthurt and trying to make sure we all know it. Seriously, what do you think "I'm leaving and won't be back" type of statements really say about a person? Talk about drama. ::)
Just so we're clear on this, she posted a thread in Site Issues already. Her leaving has nothing to do with being hurt, but for her personal safety.
beauty21queen
04-04-2008, 05:07 PM
She was mentioned earlier in the thread.
lizlizliz
04-04-2008, 05:09 PM
Yes, I do think so. For instance, the pie thread is already there...
I think it's okay that Member Boards doesn't give you postcount, because then it means that if you achieve Goddess Status, then you actually have contributed some advice to the board, and not just 2000 posts of fluff.
so you've had 2000 posts of fluff, and 500 of advice? ;)
miabella
04-04-2008, 05:46 PM
a lot of it there isn't a solution to. yes, many of us have met someone from SW, or many someones from SW offline, but it's still an internet forum and many people really do feel 'it's different/doesn't count/won't hurt when i type it'. that'll never change unless we're all uploaded into the matrix or something.
this is a pretty popular place on the internets. a lot of people know about it that never come here, but just go 'omg strippars can type! and know what an ISP is, and the internets! who knew!' and still more people come to engage in either subtle or overt trolls. and then there's just people looking to get started dancing and need tips or experienced dancers needing hustle help. and general community that builds up on any internet forum.
one thing i've noticed in my very, very, very, very long time on the internet is that people come to a place online regular and feel very secure there, even though the content is world-viewable. and then they feel violated when some random person views that content. a lot of the drama in SW could be sidestepped if that issue was dealt with.
another thing is that we all get emotionally attached to posts made by people who post a lot. the emotions aren't always positive ones or even a lot of emotion necessarily, but they do develop because you see their words so much. and that's separate from how you feel about posters you personally like or hate for other reasons. frequent posters do receive more emotional outlay whether they pursue it or not.
anyway, i'm back to social dynamics of internet forums part 87, so i'll just stop digressing.
i like veal. especially with sauteed leeks.
TheSexKitten
04-04-2008, 06:17 PM
I kind of think we're all blowing this out of proportion. Some people are a bit snarky, and others are a bit [seemingly] fake. So what? The people on here are already a lot nicer and get along a lot better than the normal world IRL.
I think that the more we bitch and moan about drama, the more we create it. We're all just escalating everything when there were really no significant issues to begin with.
RandomUser
04-04-2008, 07:27 PM
Someone here once posted about different posting types. There is nothing wrong with open posting and low moderation levels. Learn to skim past the fluff if it is not enjoyed. Complaining about it is more a sign of technology overload or personality conflict than board and thread quality. It does make boring reading if no active verbs are used and the two people spam each other back and forth. Get a Chat room....
I'm on another board where someone was celebrated for hiting a 50,000 post count. From my viewpoint the majority of those posts were a version of "hot" repeated over and over and over.
And a European board I just left would ban people for spamming a thread with the words "I agree" and such. They were pretty draconian about it.
This board is pretty mild in terms of flame wars. People that leave I think do so for a change of pace. If they have SW in their blood they will come back.
hockeybobby
04-04-2008, 07:34 PM
I feel like kissing someone's ass right now. Hopefully someone new, it gets boring kissing the same old asses all the time.
MojoJojo
04-04-2008, 07:35 PM
I want to know what the exact formula is to # of posts,level of bitchyness and level of love you are allowed to show without retort...
a/2 + 3x/y^2 sin4(x+2)=e
crizgolfer
04-04-2008, 07:38 PM
a/2 + 3x/y^2 sin4(x+2)=e
Dude!!! That is my ATM PIN...:O