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princessjefflina
04-05-2008, 04:09 PM
But Dadday I Wana Make Da Moneyz

lizlizliz
04-06-2008, 01:16 AM
I would be disappointed if my daughter wanted to be a scientist instead of a "professional cock grinder".

Please.

I'd like to think my daughter would be raised with a sense of ambition and my own financial outlook and that stripping would be a way for her to better herself. Shit. Maybe she'd use it to pay for "Scientist School". ::)

You'd be dissapointed if your kid wanted to be a scientist, what an awesome mother you'd make. :)

MeanGirl
04-06-2008, 01:34 AM
I don't understand why most of you guys are saying you would not want her to dance? I mean seriously if it is so bad, why don't you quit then?

I don't get that either. I don't have children , but I value myself as much as I would my child. If I thought stripping was so bad i wouldn't do it myself.

I wouldn't have a problem with my daughter in this line of work, of course by the time I have kids and they're 18 who knows what it's gonna be like. I would prefer, if she were to do it however, that she be around 24-25 but that wouldn't be my call.

lizlizliz
04-06-2008, 01:37 AM
I don't get that either. I don't have children , but I value myself as much as I would my child. If I thought stripping was so bad i wouldn't do it myself.

I wouldn't have a problem with my daughter in this line of work, of course by the time I have kids and they're 18 who knows what it's gonna be like. I would prefer, if she were to do it however, that she be around 24-25 but that wouldn't be my call.

Because I will love my child so much and want to protect her from anything that could hurt her. One shitty night is reason enough for me to not want her to strip. Tell me you haven't had something bad happen to you at work.

Flick6
04-06-2008, 02:44 AM
I'm kind of not really a stripper so I have avoided posting on this thread, but I just wanted to so I am anyway!

I have two daughters, I have done a few different jobs in the sex industry, I am not ashamed of myself for what I have done, I will continue to do some of it when my kids are both out of the house for long enough (phone sex and cam work). I can happily say I dont want my girls to go into any form of sex work. I hope they grow up in a beautiful little bubble of happiness that never involves having to grind flash or rub or fuck for money. If they want to be exhibitionist tarts and do it for fun then thats fine, they dont have to be nuns or anything. I just hope they are not exposed to the sort of things I have been exposed to.

I remember being 18 and meeting my 13 year old step sister and just WISHING that I cold be that naive and sheltered at 13, she is 21 now and I still think the same thing.

I dont care if it is hypocritical, it is how I feel, I look at my babies and I hope that they never ever have a man tell them they are too fat, too thin, their boobs are too saggy, their eyebrows too thick, whatever and have to smile and keep on for the money. I hope they never have their boundaries pushed the way mine have been.

If they want to do it then I will support them 100%, but yeah, i hope their reality is different to mine I really do.

AznExtasy
04-06-2008, 01:57 PM
Bottom line for me is, I would look at my kids differently than any friend, cousin, whatever. I'm going to be their mother, not their friend. There's times when I'm going to tell them what to do. Just because I'm in the business does not justify making it okay for them to be as well. I would try to value my kids more than myself and push them to be better and greater than I ever will be.

TheSexKitten
04-06-2008, 02:01 PM
You'd be dissapointed if your kid wanted to be a scientist, what an awesome mother you'd make. :)

Sarcastic irony is so becoming. :)

msonyxorb
04-06-2008, 02:06 PM
I'm kind of not really a stripper so I have avoided posting on this thread, but I just wanted to so I am anyway!

I have two daughters, I have done a few different jobs in the sex industry, I am not ashamed of myself for what I have done, I will continue to do some of it when my kids are both out of the house for long enough (phone sex and cam work). I can happily say I dont want my girls to go into any form of sex work. I hope they grow up in a beautiful little bubble of happiness that never involves having to grind flash or rub or fuck for money. If they want to be exhibitionist tarts and do it for fun then thats fine, they dont have to be nuns or anything. I just hope they are not exposed to the sort of things I have been exposed to.

I remember being 18 and meeting my 13 year old step sister and just WISHING that I cold be that naive and sheltered at 13, she is 21 now and I still think the same thing.

I dont care if it is hypocritical, it is how I feel, I look at my babies and I hope that they never ever have a man tell them they are too fat, too thin, their boobs are too saggy, their eyebrows too thick, whatever and have to smile and keep on for the money. I hope they never have their boundaries pushed the way mine have been.

If they want to do it then I will support them 100%, but yeah, i hope their reality is different to mine I really do.

Keeping your child naive and sheltered is just going to hurt her more in the long run though. I think we need bad experiences so we can learn from them. I know if I was still naive and sheltered i would still be dating asshole guys with power trips and would be very trusting of everyone. That is not a good thing. A naive and sheltered child is more at risk of being date raped or killed than someone who has street smarts because of their life experience.

As for the insults, people are going to be rude no matter what. In fact i experience way more rudeness on the internet and back in highschool than at the club i work at right now. If there is even anything slightly wrong with you, someone is going to make fun of it, you don't need to be a stripper to be called ugly or fat.

TheSexKitten
04-06-2008, 02:08 PM
Thank you! I think my child deserves the respect of being treated like a capable, intelligent, and autonomous adult.

MeanGirl
04-06-2008, 02:16 PM
Because I will love my child so much and want to protect her from anything that could hurt her. One shitty night is reason enough for me to not want her to strip. Tell me you haven't had something bad happen to you at work.

Tell me you haven't had something bad happen to you in life. If all it took was one shitty night for you to not want her to do it then are you gonna let her have a boyfriend, drive, have even friends that are girls, go to school, etc? Cmon you don't have to be a stripper to have a bad day. I see what you are saying, but are you still dancing after your shitty night? I guess you think it's still worth it?

MeanGirl
04-06-2008, 02:19 PM
I'm kind of not really a stripper so I have avoided posting on this thread, but I just wanted to so I am anyway!

I have two daughters, I have done a few different jobs in the sex industry, I am not ashamed of myself for what I have done, I will continue to do some of it when my kids are both out of the house for long enough (phone sex and cam work). I can happily say I dont want my girls to go into any form of sex work. I hope they grow up in a beautiful little bubble of happiness that never involves having to grind flash or rub or fuck for money. If they want to be exhibitionist tarts and do it for fun then thats fine, they dont have to be nuns or anything. I just hope they are not exposed to the sort of things I have been exposed to.

I remember being 18 and meeting my 13 year old step sister and just WISHING that I cold be that naive and sheltered at 13, she is 21 now and I still think the same thing.

I dont care if it is hypocritical, it is how I feel, I look at my babies and I hope that they never ever have a man tell them they are too fat, too thin, their boobs are too saggy, their eyebrows too thick, whatever and have to smile and keep on for the money. I hope they never have their boundaries pushed the way mine have been.

If they want to do it then I will support them 100%, but yeah, i hope their reality is different to mine I really do.

This really makes sense, but I guess i WAS that naive and sheltered 13 year old. I didn'tstart dancing until I was 26, maybe if I did earlier I would feel different about the situation. However, i feel at that age I was already my own person which is why i would only want my daughter to dance after some life experience.

TigersMilk
04-06-2008, 02:20 PM
10+ years from now IF I have a daughter and she grows up which when she turns 18 which will be 28 years from now I highly doubt stripping will be as lucrative as it is today. Just 10 years ago being a stripper was a nonstop atm withdrawal when you went to work that night.

Things have changed within those 10 years and not for the better. Yet, I'm sure that all of us still dance because we see it as something we can gain from. Approximately 28 years from now who knows but I don't think there will be much of a real stripping industry left.

So, I would do all I could to keep her from dancing.

StrawberrySwitchblade
04-06-2008, 02:20 PM
I don't think I'd be cool with it, but I wouldn't freak. Having seen what I've seen, I never want her to be in my place. However, I would educate her about what I did when I was a kid and hope it showed her that it's not all 100 dollar bills and glitter. It's not.

Callyish
04-06-2008, 02:27 PM
If my daughter were to be a stripper id start her out right. She would not be hustling lap dances and crossing her fingers she made enough that night to pay her bills. She would be a showgirl then a feature. I would train her right and educate her about the industry.

Now don't think im saying there is something wrong with lap dancing, because there isn't. I just hate the fingers crossed game of hoping you make enough money.

lizlizliz
04-06-2008, 03:58 PM
Sarcastic irony is so becoming. :)

It makes my bewbs look bigger.

Gomz zomg am I being inappropriate? I sure as hell hope so. }:D

lizlizliz
04-06-2008, 03:59 PM
Tell me you haven't had something bad happen to you in life. If all it took was one shitty night for you to not want her to do it then are you gonna let her have a boyfriend, drive, have even friends that are girls, go to school, etc? Cmon you don't have to be a stripper to have a bad day. I see what you are saying, but are you still dancing after your shitty night? I guess you think it's still worth it?

Um, no. I'm not saying just any old bad day. I'm talking about some lameass, possibly diseased asshole whipping out his dick and cumming on her. That would be a bad night. I know how this job can get to me sometimes, and there is no way I would wish that upon my daughter.

Dottie Rebel
04-06-2008, 04:24 PM
You'd be dissapointed if your kid wanted to be a scientist, what an awesome mother you'd make. :)

I was being glib. In terms of what I'd want her to do, pro grinder and scientist are fairly lateral because it would be entirely up to her to decide what she wants to do with her life and it wouldn't matter what I think. It would make no difference to me as long as she's happy (I know I am). And if she's happy with what she's doing how on earth could I consider I failed?

Flick6
04-06-2008, 05:00 PM
Keeping your child naive and sheltered is just going to hurt her more in the long run though. I think we need bad experiences so we can learn from them. I know if I was still naive and sheltered i would still be dating asshole guys with power trips and would be very trusting of everyone. That is not a good thing. A naive and sheltered child is more at risk of being date raped or killed than someone who has street smarts because of their life experience.

As for the insults, people are going to be rude no matter what. In fact i experience way more rudeness on the internet and back in highschool than at the club i work at right now. If there is even anything slightly wrong with you, someone is going to make fun of it, you don't need to be a stripper to be called ugly or fat.

I dont want her to be TOTALLY naive and sheltered, cripes just having me as a parent will negate that possibility, I just don't want to her to know as much as me as early as I did. Maybe nave isn't the right word?

By the time she's say 25-30 I would imagine she would have encountered most of the harsh realities of life to some degree or another.

Someone said earlier that value themselves as much as they would their kids... the thing is I value my kids more than anything, I have self respect, but I have grown into that as I get older, and I will always value their happiness more than my own, I just think that's the way it is when you're a mum. Does that make sense? I need coffee!!!

thechaosfairy
04-07-2008, 04:15 AM
I think Dottie Rebel was just pointing out the self-hatred inherent in assuming that a scientist is innately *superior* to an ecdysiast somehow...

I also think that reactions in this thread will partly depend on how much experience the posters have had with other jobs, and what that experience was like.

I've been mistreated, abused, and had long-term damage to my self esteem or my body from almost every job I've had EXCEPT dancing and teaching. Working retail gave me tendinitis and low expectations; working in an office (badly underpaid) gave me carpal tunnel and my nasty boss made me feel like I was unfit for the real world; working in a call center for a month last year was great for my self-esteem, but caused neck stiffness that lasted six months afterward.

Frankly, I've been HEALTHIER as a dancer than I've been in any of the other "just starting out" jobs available to young people.

One's experiences may vary widely... there are zillions of dancers in the world and not all of them have worked in the same conditions. I only speak from mine. :-)

miabella
04-07-2008, 04:30 AM
anyone using ecdysiast seriously is pretty confused about the origins of the term.

dancing will be REALLY crap money by the time i have kids old enough to consider it. i'd be pretty ashamed if my girls chose to get naked for pennies on the dollar, which is what they'd be doing.

thechaosfairy
04-07-2008, 04:36 AM
It was coined by H.L. Mencken on a whim... and used by me also on a whim. Perhaps I'm a bit too whimsical. :-)

I do think the economy will bounce back up, within the next decade, at least. I'd like to believe that the US will not enter another Great Depression...

RoseLeigh
04-07-2008, 08:39 AM
If the economy bounces back, and if I had kids (unlikely), I wouldn't mind as long as she was smart about it. Though I wouldn't toss my kids out at 19 to pay for housing and school themselves ::), so maybe she wouldn't have to, at least not until a bit older. It is a hard job in many ways.

Alia_of_the_Knife
04-07-2008, 08:43 AM
10+ years from now IF I have a daughter and she grows up which when she turns 18 which will be 28 years from now I highly doubt stripping will be as lucrative as it is today. Just 10 years ago being a stripper was a nonstop atm withdrawal when you went to work that night.

Things have changed within those 10 years and not for the better. Yet, I'm sure that all of us still dance because we see it as something we can gain from. Approximately 28 years from now who knows but I don't think there will be much of a real stripping industry left.

So, I would do all I could to keep her from dancing.

That's pretty much how I feel. I don't think it would be economically viable in the future.

That being said, even if it was hypothetically, I hope to make enough as a stripper now and a chemical engineer in the future that my kid will have enough to go to college and get on their feet so they won't have to dance. Yes, I want to have a trust fund baby, (but only for college and early twenties living expenses.)

Alia_of_the_Knife
04-07-2008, 08:46 AM
I'd probably hang myself if my son was posting on an internet message board bragging about all the money he spent "making it rain in the club" or some such nonsense.

Hell yes.

MeanGirl
04-07-2008, 12:52 PM
Um, no. I'm not saying just any old bad day. I'm talking about some lameass, possibly diseased asshole whipping out his dick and cumming on her. That would be a bad night. I know how this job can get to me sometimes, and there is no way I would wish that upon my daughter.
Back to my point of why would YOU do it then? Chances of that happening aren't great, again I kinda get your point, but why subject yourself to something if you feel so negatively about it? It's just weird to me how many people love their kids soo much, but don't really care about themselves.

I get how you can love children more than yourself, certainly, but to hold yourself to a lower standard(by your own standards) than them imo is a little hypocrytical and lacking in self love.

VegasPrincess
04-07-2008, 02:03 PM
I wouldn't want my daughter to go do it because I know how assholes can be, and I wouldn't want some of the gross things that we work with to happen to her.

I wouldn't care if my kids were custies, aslong as they were respectful.