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Andygirl
04-11-2008, 05:33 PM
Maybe it's not the popular opinion these days, but I don't want to be "thick," I want to be curvy, toned, and within a healthy BMI. For my height, that doesn't equal "thick."
A girl at my club was most definitely thick. She had a big 'ol booty and a lot of guys liked it. After I came back from being at another club for a few months I saw her and she had dropped a good 20 lbs. She was slammin'. She had been working out and got rid of all the jiggle.
She still has a beautiful, round, ass and curvy legs, but she also has a washboard stomach and everything is just where it should be. I asked her about her money and she said it has multiplied exponentially since she lost the weight. I always thought she made great money with her "thick" body, and she told me the difference now is in the quality of guys who like her. Before, it was cheap young guys. Now, it's wealthy, older men.
Tell me, which clientele would you prefer?
StrawberrySwitchblade
04-11-2008, 05:33 PM
This entire thread fucking sucks.
Andygirl
04-11-2008, 05:34 PM
This entire thread fucking sucks.
Why? Because people are actually being honest about something that does matter is this industry? It is a relevant discussion.
Corgan
04-11-2008, 05:36 PM
I always thought she made great money with her "thick" body, and she told me the difference now is in the quality of guys who like her. Before, it was cheap young guys. Now, it's wealthy, older men.
Tell me, which clientele would you prefer?
that's ridiculous. i am thick, big boned whatever... and younger guys have never been into me. ever. only the older men with lots of $.
i hate that it's insenuated and expected on here that skinny=money. fucking confidence=money.
Zinaida
04-11-2008, 05:38 PM
fucking confidence=money.
Ding ding ding! I completely agree. ;D
StrawberrySwitchblade
04-11-2008, 05:38 PM
It's not honesty (which isn't a problem), it's the low shots that are being tossed around.
Corgan
04-11-2008, 05:40 PM
It's not honesty (which isn't a problem), it's the low shots that are being tossed around.
that's what i'm sayin!
Sophia_Starina
04-11-2008, 05:42 PM
she told me the difference now is in the quality of guys who like her. Before, it was cheap young guys. Now, it's wealthy, older men.
Tell me, which clientele would you prefer?
Wow. :O Why did I ever stop being anorexic? I could be rolling in the $$$$.
With all due respect, that is a really bad example. It creates a false (or at least inaccurate) assertion that what happened with that particular girl will happen to others. So many women have unhealthy body images, especially women who's income relates to their bodies (models, actresses, strippers, athletes).
I say work with what you got. There is not pot-o-gold at the end of the skinny rainbow. Confidence, not body, is key.
Sophia_Starina
04-11-2008, 05:43 PM
that's ridiculous. i am thick, big boned whatever... and younger guys have never been into me. ever. only the older men with lots of $.
i hate that it's insenuated and expected on here that skinny=money. fucking confidence=money.
I so agree...
I'm gonna go out to eat at a buffet right now... I'll let you know if my earnings potential decreases after dinner.:D
saphire123456
04-11-2008, 05:45 PM
fucking confidence=money.
ding ding ding! that is actually my point as well, because that thick, obese...whatever girl makes all the money cause she's got game
Corgan
04-11-2008, 05:46 PM
^ haha <3
i'd join you at the buffet if i could!
TheSexKitten
04-11-2008, 05:57 PM
And Sex Kitten, I cannot recall seeing a picture of your ass, but I remember some pictures somewhere. I would bet any amount of money you have a much nicer ass than that magazine model, actually, so stop wishing for it, already.
Thx for compliments! :-* :) You have good taste so I'm very flattered.
ZOMG FAT PPL DONT DESERVE TO LIVE <--- essence of this thread
this thread makes me :(
we sound like a bunch of bitchy clucking hens making ourselves feel better. all this bitching is doing no one any good, and probably doing some self-esteems harm in the process of, well, nothing
Sindi
04-11-2008, 06:11 PM
ok i only read the first half of the posts on the first page but I dont think its just overweight dancers that someone would find unpleasant , I mean to say that if you find heavier people unattractive at a club you may also find them that way at say the beach . I dunno how I feel , I think that if you are naturally BIG like double digit clothes size but you have minimal cellulite and things dont jiggle too crazy than its fine for you to be nude , as long as you feel confident . I DONT however think that someone of any size who is out of shape should be naked in public . Now thats just my opinion of course but I dislike seeing sloppy people , you know what I am taking about too . I dont think the OP was talking about people of different sizes , it was quite clear to me that she was talking about unhealthy , out of shape people who dont care about their appearance in the least bit . After all the Exotic Dancing industry is about being attractive to someone , even though thats mostly done through dance and personality its just not respectful to thrust a disgusting image upon people . I dunno , thats just my 2cents . I worked with a girl who was under 5' tall and because of that her weight looked alot heavier on her and we were actually asked to leave a club once and she was the more attractive girl working , their were taller girls who were sloppy in their appearance who stayed on to work !
Sophia_Ashley
04-11-2008, 06:28 PM
ding ding ding! that is actually my point as well, because that thick, obese...whatever girl makes all the money cause she's got game
I agree too. And Corgan sweetie, I know what you look like and I think you are rather hard on yourself.
It takes all shapes and sizes to make the world turn. What SOME of us mean by obese is by health standards not by vanity reasons. At least for my sake. I will be the first to admit I have a huge unhealthy view on eating, weight etc. But it sorta just remains with me and not projecting onto others.
I look a girls that have nice full asses (I miss mine) and find it beautiful. However, on me in my head it's all kinds of fucked up. That's me though. And that's BD.
Our nation is larger as it is, so of COURSE ladies are going to be thicker than they were 10 years ago. My entire point is, just stay within a healthy range. No diabetes please! And don't make comments to the thin girls "eat a cheeseburger" or sob that you find yourself too heavy. Be happy, be comfortable and enjoy your life.
Sophia_Starina
04-11-2008, 08:08 PM
ding ding ding! that is actually my point as well, because that thick, obese...whatever girl makes all the money cause she's got game
Yes I do...
VegasPrincess
04-11-2008, 08:19 PM
Sorry but how many girls with eating disorders did you date??(I have dated a few--some recovered and others who I found out while dating)and Yes some1 who is 95lbs can be obesse --once yr body is done eating anyway all yr muscle mass it starts directly storing fat becuz it takes less engery and your body wants to mantain yr weight out of fear of shuting down. So a girl with no muscle who stores bodyfat will be obesse becuz her precent of bodyfat will probably be higher then the 1 that is obesse at 300lbs who has a higher precent of muscle mass under that. Do the math 28 percent of 100 is the same percent of 28 % of 300 only difference is 1 girl is 3 times bigger with 3times more muscle as well as fat.
IGive me a break.
WTF?????????????
Obese is NOT 28% of your body being fat!!!!! it is a BMI of 28 or above!!! AAA!!!
WTF?? you can not be 95 lbs and obese, unless you are 7 years old or a midget.
And as for dating girls who are ED, no. As for BEING IN GROUP THERAPY FOR FUCKING 6 years with dozens of ED girls, yes!!!
Please stop talking about this. Please stop. Stop now.
VegasPrincess
04-11-2008, 08:21 PM
This entire thread fucking sucks.
You know what? It does. Apparently, because I used to have an eating disorder, I am more obese at 95lbs than a 300lb person, according to this thread....
Lysondra
04-11-2008, 08:44 PM
You know what? It does. Apparently, because I used to have an eating disorder, I am more obese at 95lbs than a 300lb person, according to this thread....
Yeah, that's not making me feel good either.
Sophia_Ashley
04-11-2008, 08:46 PM
This is the part I didn't get or understand. I have an ED, and I'm not too sure how I'm more obese...needless to say I'm freaking out a bit here. I've been reading anything that would help me make some sense of it....
and I'm finding nothing.
You know what? It does. Apparently, because I used to have an eating disorder, I am more obese at 95lbs than a 300lb person, according to this thread....
Yep. That's me right now. Size 3/4, about 120 lbs. (at 5'2"), 26" waist... I'm on probation for 30 days. I don't get it. I'm very toned and healthy looking, but was told that I need to "tighten up." :O
Meanwhile, there are girls walking around, same height and body structure, that are easily a size 7 or 9, and have a good 15 lbs. on me.
I could have written this myself. I am 5'2, 120-123 lbs and I was told to "tighten up" too. Meanwhile, there are other chicks MUCH heavier than me who were never told a thing. Chapped my ass a little, hence why I took a haitus.
I don't believe that fat girls never get laid. SOMEONE must find them appealing... and I'm pretty sure it's not that rare of a fetish if they keep reproducing.
Some guys just like fat chicks, the bigger the better.... I don't understand why they are so underepresented in the clubs.
Dude, I have a heavy friend who gets more ass than a toilet seat.
Really. I dont think I could get that much ass, even if I tried.
VegasPrincess
04-11-2008, 09:03 PM
Yeah, that's not making me feel good either.
Well, it's certainly NOT true, fear you not.
Those comments made were certainly terrible, UNTRUE!!!!, and very triggering. While I am all for saying whatever the fuck you want, I would NEVER encourage a heroin addict to go shoot up. Which is what those posts, as an EDed person, made us feel like. So a big fuckity fuck to that!
This is the part I didn't get or understand. I have an ED, and I'm not too sure how I'm more obese...needless to say I'm freaking out a bit here. I've been reading anything that would help me make some sense of it....
and I'm finding nothing.
As Sophia said, there is NO EVIDENCE that people who suffer from EDs end up obese .... just the contrary....
As for people who would make such awful comments about EDed people should really use some common sense, and keep their nastiness to themselves. Really.
Sophia_Ashley
04-11-2008, 09:14 PM
^ Uh I am using common sense here, I'm just trying to find where the assumption was being made or founded.
beauty21queen
04-11-2008, 09:20 PM
^^^It was from UV69... I dont know what the fuck she is talking about.
VegasPrincess
04-11-2008, 09:20 PM
^ Uh I am using common sense here, I'm just trying to find where the assumption was being made or founded.
No no no I was agreeing with you lol!!! I was saying the person who made that statement should use common sense....
I edited my post to make that more clear. I wasn't directing the no common sense thing at you, sorry if it came out that way!!
Sophia_Ashley
04-11-2008, 09:39 PM
^ gotcha :) It's all good
winterrose
04-11-2008, 09:47 PM
why are we bashing each other's body types worse than the customers do to us at work?
how is this supposed to help each other?
If someone is comfortable in their own skin, why try to tear that down? As women, don't we all have enough issues on our own with something about our bodies without going to look for more reasons to feel insecure? Without others in our professions adding fuel to the fire?
If we all looked the same the world would be a very boring place.
this thread is getting out of hand and sort of ugly in the things being said about the thin girls and the heavy girls.
I don't think either end of the spectrum is feeling real good about it.
PleasureVictim
04-11-2008, 09:56 PM
Glamazon....
Are you exempt from having any cellulite at all? Do you have a body pic?
Your body is super smooth and perfect? Really? Wow. I'd sure like to see you.
By the way, as far at ATL chicks are concerned... I danced with Whyte Chocolate at the Gentlemen's Club on Ellis years ago. She has cellulite. Most of the women at Club Nikkis and GC did, Pleasure Victim. Pictures are touched up, remember that. Hell, I've even met Melyssa Ford and she's had surgeries to help her situation. I'll post a pic of her in a minute.
Hell, my girl Buckeey from the Flav of Love show has an imperfection or two and I know her personally. Don't believe the hype about ATL, all shapes of women are in the clubs. I got homies that worked at Jazzy T's. Hell, another homegirl of mine, who goes by the name Woman at Magic City isn't perfect but she is a baaaaad chick! So what's the business?
Hell, I weigh 202 lbs and don't look anything like it. Give me a minute to post a pic for yall to see, I need to take one in an outfit.
Thick girls rule!!!!!
I've been out to ATL numerous times over the past few years. Would the woman in the blue dress get hired at MC? Perhaps, but I doubt it. I know the pics are touched up, I didn't put up WC's picture in regards to cellulite, I put it up to show what many guys like to see.
I've been to clubs up and down the east coast as a dancer or custy and Atlanta has some of the best I've seen. Not all of them are 10s of course- but there is a reason the hype is what it is. The 300lb dancer I mentioned upthread was working in an Atlanta club and she isn't the norm at all.
The cellulite thing is moot- that isn't something most people can control. From my experience and what I've seen with my own 2 eyes, men could give a damn about that. I know a dancer who ain't fat and got it all on her ass and thighs. But she still banks. Go figure.
I don't agree that all women have cellulite though, I know I don't.
I do agree that thick girls rule!
I am disappointed that in such a group of better/smarter/enlightened strippers so many can't just let other people live and be whatever size they want. Yikes.
I bet grossly out of shape dancers (i.e. the ones with 6 mos bellies when they aren't pregnant) are more of an issue than 350 lb ones in the club.
VegasPrincess
04-11-2008, 10:10 PM
this thread is getting out of hand and sort of ugly in the things being said about the thin girls and the heavy girls.
I don't think either end of the spectrum is feeling real good about it.
Quite True my dear... Quite true ....
Perry
04-11-2008, 10:29 PM
The difference of a girl being fat vs being thick or freaking perfect is just the opinion of who ever happens to be looking. Being obese is the opinion of a Doctor. I don't think I've ever seen a girl in that condition in a strip club. It's a desease that limits a person's physical abilities. Wouldn't they be too disabled to dance?
mollyzmoon
04-11-2008, 11:14 PM
I don't see why the offense? Who is saying that being overweight = terrible person? Even, 'bad person'? I don't think beauty can be equated with a moral judgment, but certainly some people do. I don't. This isn't what I'm saying.
I do stand firm in my belief that there are objective measures of attractiveness. Some people deny this also, and fine. But I'm basing my belief on empirical evidence.
I'm saying, very heavy women are fine, and many are wonderful people, and beautiful. Just like everyone else. But they do not lure in your average customer.
I'm saying, when a guy or group of guys enters the club and they see very unattractive dancers working (by their standards), then they'll often leave. Higher standards = more business. It really does, based on everything I've seen. You don't have to be thin, or tiny, or even especially tight, but being very very fat...that is pushing the limit.
We're not models, but we sure as hell are supposed to objects of desire, right? Dare I say, sex objects? We're there to be ogled and objectified. Why should we be so up in arms if there are certain features men prefer to ogle? I always thought you go in as a sex worker, and you take it or leave it. That's the scene, you know?
I'm really not trying to offend people! I'm saying what I think, and nowhere am I saying 'fat women suck'.
No no no I was agreeing with you lol!!! I was saying the person who made that statement should use common sense....
I edited my post to make that more clear. I wasn't directing the no common sense thing at you, sorry if it came out that way!!
Here's my common sense/proof of what I was saying
Obesity in developing countries compares to U.S. yo-yo dieting
ANN ARBOR, Mich.---The sad irony of obesity in developing, food-starved nations has not gone unnoticed by scientists.
In a new report, a University of Michigan researcher attempts to explain the odd co-existence of malnourishment and obesity by drawing comparisons to the yo-yo dieter syndrome, where the body compensates for starvation by storing fat for later.
The paper, "Reduced Rate of Fat Oxidation: A Metabolic Pathway to Obesity in the Developing Nations," by anthropology professor A. Roberto Frisancho, appeared in a recent issue of American Journal of Human Biology.
That both malnourishment and obesity exist simultaneously in developing populations seems counterintuitive, especially when the reasons for obesity in developing nations such as the United States are inactivity and excess fat intake. Those conditions, especially the latter, don't exist in developing nations.
"In the same household, you can have a chubby kid and a starving kid," Frisancho said. He argues that obesity in developing nations is a result of the body's attempts to cope with childhood malnourishment. The phenomena is similar to yo-yo dieting, where dieters who have deprived themselves gain weight at faster rates than non-dieters when they begin eating normally again.
Under normal nutritional conditions, humans only absorb about 80 percent of the nutrients from the food they eat, and the rest of the nutrients pass through the body. But when deprived of nourishment, the body becomes a super efficient machine, Frisancho said, pulling all the nutrients from the food for energy. Further, because humans need a certain percentage of body fat reserves to stay alive and because it takes more work for the body to burn fat than carbohydrate, """the body in starvation mode learns to burn carbohydrate for energy and to store fat, rather than to use the energy for growth.""" (Highering the percent of bodyfat like I said which is what makes a person obesse or not)
When the malnourished person begins eating normally again, the body does not re-adapt. Instead, it keeps storing fat as if malnourished. It also keeps pulling 100 percent of nutrients from the food. "It's a byproduct of past adaptations. The same mechanism that helps them survive makes them fat," Frisancho said. It works the same way for yo-yo dieters.
I'm not attacking any1'a body type ---I'm talking health and the fact that healthy is visually sexier then obessity which is sad to see in my book as it is a reflection of being unhealthy.
Susan Wayward
04-11-2008, 11:38 PM
It was like Jay and Silent Bob in 8" heels and thongs!
Snooch to the Nooch!
oh, my god. Whatever else people want to say in this thread, it's given me some great laughs.
God, I wish everyone would calm down. Quit being shocked that
a) strippers and strip club customers can be superficial
and
b) strippers without perfect bodies make bank because they can sell
I guaran-goddamn-tee you that many fat strippers have a sense of humor about being big (witness "Hamhock"), perfectly fine self-esteem, and could give a shit what people think as long as they make their money. Same goes for skinny strippers who have to hear hateful "eat a sandwich" bullshit.
Jeska
04-11-2008, 11:58 PM
There is NO WAY POSSIBLE that somebody who weighs 100lbs would have the same body fat percentage as somebody who weighed 150lbs at the same height.
If the 150 lb. person had more muscle than the 100lb. one then yes it could be possible.. in the way I'm thinking..
Not trying to get into the debate or anything, just wanted to throw that out there.
VegasPrincess
04-12-2008, 12:39 AM
I'm not attacking any1'a body type ---I'm talking health and the fact that healthy is visually sexier then obessity which is sad to see in my book as it is a reflection of being unhealthy.
Well, me and my obviously obese 120 lb body will surely be getting out of your way now. Have a nice night reading your book and enjoying the 300lb naked women who are skinnier than I am since my body can now only store fat and be obese.
BalletBaby
04-12-2008, 01:33 AM
Hmm if she wanted to be a top earner in ATL she'd have to lose some weight. I can't speak for Texas or Florida.
This is Atlanta thick, they women out there are held to higher standards:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v85/Pussnboots/APRIL-copy.jpg
:drool:
Here's a pic (that's not me in the background, LOL)--it's not the most current--and in it I am actually 10 lbs heavier than I am currently.
:drool:
Djoser
04-12-2008, 01:47 AM
I don't see why the offense? Who is saying that being overweight = terrible person? Even, 'bad person'? I don't think beauty can be equated with a moral judgment, but certainly some people do. I don't. This isn't what I'm saying.
I do stand firm in my belief that there are objective measures of attractiveness. Some people deny this also, and fine. But I'm basing my belief on empirical evidence.
I'm saying, very heavy women are fine, and many are wonderful people, and beautiful. Just like everyone else. But they do not lure in your average customer.
I'm saying, when a guy or group of guys enters the club and they see very unattractive dancers working (by their standards), then they'll often leave. Higher standards = more business. It really does, based on everything I've seen. You don't have to be thin, or tiny, or even especially tight, but being very very fat...that is pushing the limit.
We're not models, but we sure as hell are supposed to objects of desire, right? Dare I say, sex objects? We're there to be ogled and objectified. Why should we be so up in arms if there are certain features men prefer to ogle? I always thought you go in as a sex worker, and you take it or leave it. That's the scene, you know?
I'm really not trying to offend people! I'm saying what I think, and nowhere am I saying 'fat women suck'.
Thank you. The reality is that customers will leave, or even demand a refund of the cover charge, on occasion. It will kill the crowd every time, and I cannot possibly count the times I have seen it happen.
It's quite simple, really--if you imagine a Chippendales review with John Candy, Chris Farley, and that really heavy and squat comic that used to scream all the time, what's his name--whatever. Sure, they might use their charm, humor, and confidence to get women to pay them for lapdances, but the women entering the club to see Chippendales guys onstage would be disappointed, and most of them would leave.
Corgan
04-12-2008, 01:50 AM
^ i would change your mind about the thickies djoser!!! ;]
Djoser
04-12-2008, 01:53 AM
^ i would change your mind about the thickies djoser!!! ;]
I was about to PM you, but since you posted that, I will say it here--I would kill to put Corgan onstage. This thread has nothing whatsoever to do with you, other than you expressing your opinion in it, of course. You are an exceptionally appealing woman.
Corgan
04-12-2008, 02:04 AM
^ yeah you better love me. :]
Lklucky
04-12-2008, 02:15 AM
The above article was referring to the once-starved people who begin to eat normally absorbing more nutrients and thus storing more fat as a result. If over a very long period of time these people continue the process of self starvation alternating with normal and binge eating they will have a higher body fat percentage than a person at say 150 lbs who has never had an ED and has always ate healthily. Please understand that this in NO WAY means that obesity and starvation can co-exist in the same person; why? because if the once self starved person at say 110 pounds begins to eat normally they will in turn gain weight based on the nutrients they put into their bodies so they'll gain weight in proportion; the person will then become 120, 130, 140 etc.. at their new weight they will no longer be starving or anorexic and will have stored more fat making them fatter by percentage than someone who has never yo-yo dieted because that person's fat storing mechanism has never been damaged ( in starvation mode).
velvet
04-12-2008, 02:41 AM
ok we are done here. thanks for your input everyone