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anouk.oui
12-14-2009, 12:53 AM
i was wondering the same no sex thing when a lesbian waitress told me she had one... who paid her 700 just to see her in a cute outfit on stage for 3 mins

babybambi08
12-14-2009, 09:06 AM
K, I understand some girls might find a guy that will payger a decient amount without thrm sleepin together but that's not the reality of it. If you want an sd to give you like over 500$ I'd say he is going to want something in return..

I put an ad out on backpage for an sd in the adult help wanted and that's how I met my escorting boss. He Keely emailing me that I looked great and I'll make a lot of money. So I flew to dc and I sure did...

If you don't wanna sleep with the dude or want him in your personal life I'd hive escorting a try...
I work with a bad ass agency but there are hundereds of bad ones..
I'm taking time off from school and for the next 7 months in going to work every other week and if I make half of what I'm making now I'll make like 45k, my goal is going to be 60k and that's very possible. I'm also looking for a travel companion agency, these guys take you out to ny, Cali, Miami or whereeverand you are with them almost the whole time like a sd but you are getting paid more, I think it's like two nights is 6k for the custy now a good agency gives you about 60% some do 50/50 but when your with that guy he has to entertain you take u to shows go shopping eat- I think that would be bad ass

laurcon
12-14-2009, 09:35 AM
Hi!

So, I've been exploring this SB/SD world for a few months, off and on. Like many ladies mentioned, the guys tend to have an expiration date so only one has really last for awhile (4/5 months or so).

I am meeting up up with a new potential SD this week for the second time. Our initial meeting took place at a nice tapas bar/lounge and we spent a good hour and fifteen minutes chatting, getting to know each other, establishing why we are on the site in the first place, etc. We did not, however, discuss money; that said, his profile says he is willing to spend 3-5k/monthly. I wanted our first "date" to be comfortable and feel natural so I was willing to chat for free this one time.

We are meeting for drinks/dinner again this week and I am going to bring it up. Ideally, I would like to say something like this: "Since we've already discussed why we're both here and my reason is financially-driven, I would prefer it if you could give me a monthly sum at the beginning of the month, each month, so that we never have to discuss money and we can keep the natural flow of conversation and fun going. That way, it's taken care of and neither of us has to address anything. How do you feel about that?"

I think he'll be OK with it. My only concern is that he may feel uneasy about doing it the first month because, well, he doesn't know me and I could disappear and take off with his money. Perhaps I could suggest that, for the first month, he give me half at the beginning of the month and half on the fifteenth?

While this is business for me (and he's smart enough to know that), I do feel that discussing money each and every time we see each other takes away from the experience for him. Call me a perfectionist but I want to be a good SB and make this experience a good one for him!

What do you all think? Is my approach OK? Would you change anything about the way I am approaching this?

Thank you in advance for your comments and suggestions! :)

what i would do is say the first month could be week to week.

anacol
12-14-2009, 09:45 AM
The best place to find a SD is NOT a sugardaddy site. Guys on there aren't stupid, its pretty easy to play into a girl's desperation. Way too many people burned on there, compared to a very few success stories.

You are so right, that's the same thing I said. I wouldn't go online to meet anyone. I would just rather meet someone spontaneously not knowing I'm going to meet them and become great friends. That's the best way to me. Going on line to me seems like you may set yourself up for failure!:)

laurcon
12-14-2009, 09:50 AM
You are so right, that's the same thing I said. I wouldn't go online to meet anyone. I would just rather meet someone spontaneously not knowing I'm going to meet them and become great friends. That's the best way to me. Going on line to me seems like you may set yourself up for failure!:)

yes of course that's ideal. but not everyone is lucky enough to meet that person through daily interactions. of course you could set yourself up for failure, but you can also set yourself up for success. i get tons of responses on SA but it usually goes nowhere for one reason or the other. which is fine by me. if you have time and patience and know what you're worth, i think online is a viable option. just don't expect to put an ad up today and be living the life by next week.

anacol
12-14-2009, 09:52 AM
I need some help ladies! I can't figure out if this guy is just really nice or if he's looking for a SB.

So I met him like 2 years ago at my day job, we end up having this really great conversation and exchanged numbers. We talked on the phone a few times and he text me several times to wish me happy birthday, happy thanksgiving, how are you doing etc. I remember him asking me if I'd like to accompany him on a business trip (he works for the government and travels alot). I think I got nervous because of the danger involved and I think I remember seeing a ring when we met. I dunno. It was 2 yrs ago. I also wasn't dancing at the time and had prob just entertained the thought of a SD for the first time. Point is I stopped responding.

Fast forward 2yrs. So I'm thinking of trying the SD/SB thing. So I send him a random text about a week ago. He remembers me and responds. He called me a couple of days ago, asked if this is a bad time, I told him I wasn't feeling well, he says let me know if you need anything and asks what would be the best address if he wanted to send me something. So I get this big bouquet of yellow roses with a nice card. I called to thank him. We talked for a bit, he tells me about traveling for work and how he doesn't get to enjoy himself while he's away unless he takes someone with him and says to let him know when I'm ready to do some traveling. The more I type the more I'm thinking he's looking for something and has done this before. I dunno. I'm just green and

a) wouldn't want to offend him if I handle the situation one way if he's looking at it differently and
b) don't really know what the heck I'm doing anyway

What do yall think? Tips? Advice?


Sweetie, it sounds like he wants to have sex and yes from what you said, he has done it lots of times. He sounds like he take girls with him to get whatever he wants which is sex. I wouldn't waste my time with this guy. He'll prob use you as long as you'll let him and toss you to the curve. IF he didn't do this, then he wouldn't need you to come along with him. Sounds like when he gets rid of one girl, he goes for the next. He's a pick up guy!!!! Keep moving girlie, this guy isn't the one!

babybambi08
12-14-2009, 09:56 AM
mom met her bad ass sd online , but he bugs her all the time..

anacol
12-14-2009, 09:57 AM
yes of course that's ideal. but not everyone is lucky enough to meet that person through daily interactions. of course you could set yourself up for failure, but you can also set yourself up for success. i get tons of responses on SA but it usually goes nowhere for one reason or the other. which is fine by me. if you have time and patience and know what you're worth, i think online is a viable option. just don't expect to put an ad up today and be living the life by next week.

See, if you're searching for someone, you could take a chance but I'm not searching for anyone. Me personally, meeting people over websites and especially a sugar daddy, scares me! I would rather be sitting in a nice restaurant and a handsome guy approaches me and have drinks rather than being on a website chatting. But whatever works for you, go for it. It's not something that I would do and I think women should be careful trying to find a sd online, that's all.:)

babybambi08
12-14-2009, 11:02 AM
Meeting anyone online is scary but that's where you will find the sugar daddies.. I do not think they will come up to you anywhere bc sds are sds bc they are married - therefore can't really be seen in public. Or they are busy businessmen and don't have time to sit around and do nothing.. But that's what I think..

Kimbre
12-21-2009, 03:19 AM
So, just for fun, I put an ad up on a few SD sites, and I've gotten a lot of responses, and I don't even have a picture available. I don't think this is a bad way of meeting SDs, but I do think it's wise to screen the people you do get responses from carefully. Maybe even arranging a phone interview or whatever before meeting them in person would be in order just to have a chance to help get everything set up.

charlie61
12-21-2009, 10:30 AM
^ Yeah, definitely definitely filter the shit outta those guys.

Also, be careful with the phone interview. Remember, you're the one who has to convince them why you're worth the money you think they should spend on you. Which means you can't bring up amounts (that'll make you come across as extraordinarily superficial/not fun and will also make it sound like you're deciding on a price for sex). You might be able to bring up amounts later, but in the beginning, you need to be much more subtle. At the most, I'd ask if he'd be willing (depending on how things go, of course) to give you an allowance to 'help you out'. But even that kind of a request can sound too materialistic...which can be a huge turn off for a lot of SD's.

Any guy with a lot of money is likely monetarily very intelligent. So remember this! He knows exactly how much money he's giving you if you're getting any, and he knows exactly what he's 'getting' in return. If you're really good company (no sex), you can find SD's who are willing to pay for this. But remember, you definitely have to give him something in 99% of cases, to warrant any amount of money. Whether this be good company, photos of yourself, sex, etc. etc.

(with the disclaimer, of course, that some women do find no-sex guys who are willing to steadily give them money...but this is rare.)

Xiomara
02-08-2010, 02:33 PM
^^ Exactly. If you slap a different name on the package, (I'd imagine) they'll pay a lot more for it. I had an SD offer me a Ferrari for my virginity. Like, we were standing in the dealership in Vegas. (I turned him down.) Don't undersell yourself if you're going to do it!

I woulda had his babies right then and there I aint lyin!

Madisonsayshi
02-13-2010, 07:29 PM
I'm so intrigued by this thread and I have some questions of my own. I'd like to know multplie opinions on this so please reply.
If a man Provides money for us on a regular basis, then suddenly asks us for sex, we get grossed out, offended, etc. On the flip side, if a girl and an older rich man were in a relationship where sex was involved and the girl asks for A large Amount of money one day, would he get offended? Do rich men truly love to provide and cAre for younger girls? I have a hard time grasping this concept. I have a sd, kind of, and I still get nervous asking for things from him. I came from an abusive family and was extremely neglected of needs and wants. It seems to have carried into my adult life because I feel bad asking for Anything from anyone.
Anyone care to comment or leave similar tales/ experiences? I would love to hear other peoples input And/or advice. Thanks!

ohiogirl26
02-16-2010, 01:55 PM
So, I just wanted to run this past everyone since this seems to be the thread to do it in.....I have had a couple guys IM me asking if I wanted a sd, and I had NO CLUE where to start with the conversation....The one lives in New Jersey (I'm in Ohio), he said he would fly me out every weekend, pay a stipend, take me shopping,etc...for my companionship....and that would be our 'arrangement' ? Since I do live with a guy, this kind of thing wouldn't go over too well i'm sure, but the other guy offered to take care of my rent/bills & send me gifts often....that doesn't sound too terrible to me.

I am interested in the whole sd thing, but i have never been approached about it until now. Can I have a sd without actually having an in-person relationship? Dumb q i know....but is there a way I can have one online, via cam, or anything like that? Ugh, maybe I should just stay away from the whole thing. Any opinions? TY.

laurcon
02-16-2010, 02:32 PM
So, I just wanted to run this past everyone since this seems to be the thread to do it in.....I have had a couple guys IM me asking if I wanted a sd, and I had NO CLUE where to start with the conversation....The one lives in New Jersey (I'm in Ohio), he said he would fly me out every weekend, pay a stipend, take me shopping,etc...for my companionship....and that would be our 'arrangement' ? Since I do live with a guy, this kind of thing wouldn't go over too well i'm sure, but the other guy offered to take care of my rent/bills & send me gifts often....that doesn't sound too terrible to me.

I am interested in the whole sd thing, but i have never been approached about it until now. Can I have a sd without actually having an in-person relationship? Dumb q i know....but is there a way I can have one online, via cam, or anything like that? Ugh, maybe I should just stay away from the whole thing. Any opinions? TY.

I would think its totally possible girl. Just like the best exotic dancers make most of their money off of a few wealthy generous customers, as do high-end escorts, so can cam girls! I've thought about maybe camming but only if I could work an arrangement where I get a lot more money and only talk to a few guys ever. I could email them and have like a little online relationship. Maybe the guy is married and doesn't want to cheat physically, so he can get down on cam with one special girl who he can chat with for hours and send special gifts. I mean a guy like this would be paying your rent.

So what I would suggest doing, (although I have not done thing personally, but I am good with getting money from men) is to tell the second one that you'd love to be his online girlfriend and spend a little more time getting to know him. He probably mostly wants someone to talk to who is also sexy and playful.

The one in NJ... you can PM me and I'll take care of him if you're not interested ;) Haha but really that sounds like a great deal but if it won't work for you with your relationship, it just won't work and isn't worth risking prob. I def know a guy in NJ that used to fly to Ohio in his PP all the time for a dancer that he was fully financing. She had a kid, so if I had a kid I'd def be doing that shit so I could save all my dancing money.
But lol, then again, I don't have a kid and I do have a guy pay my rent so what am I talking about. Rambling, sorry, anyway... go for it!!

charlie61
02-16-2010, 02:53 PM
So, I just wanted to run this past everyone since this seems to be the thread to do it in.....I have had a couple guys IM me asking if I wanted a sd, and I had NO CLUE where to start with the conversation....The one lives in New Jersey (I'm in Ohio), he said he would fly me out every weekend, pay a stipend, take me shopping,etc...for my companionship....and that would be our 'arrangement' ? Since I do live with a guy, this kind of thing wouldn't go over too well i'm sure, but the other guy offered to take care of my rent/bills & send me gifts often....that doesn't sound too terrible to me.

I am interested in the whole sd thing, but i have never been approached about it until now. Can I have a sd without actually having an in-person relationship? Dumb q i know....but is there a way I can have one online, via cam, or anything like that? Ugh, maybe I should just stay away from the whole thing. Any opinions? TY.

If you already have this mentality, then I would stay away from it. Having an SD is exhausting work. Really exhausting. It's like working in the club, except the customers have your phone # and e-mail address (and can therefore pester you constantly). You may feel like you're getting a lot out of an arrangement, but I can guarantee you that you will pay for it somehow (in 99% of SD/SB relationships). It's emotional labor.

Many of these men know what to do with money, but that's where their intelligence stops. It can be embarrassing to hang out with an SD in a public place. One of my SD's kept pestering our waitress, hitting on her, etc. It wasn't a huge deal, but I just kept thinking "This is so beneath me." My independence proved to be much more important to me than I thought. I'd rather work 8 hours in a club, make my money, and go home.

You can get some good things out of this if you're smart and very tolerant. But I wouldn't recommend it to you by the sound of it (you sound smart, but not tolerant). Hope that helps...

KS_Stevia
02-16-2010, 03:17 PM
I don't know. I live with my boyfriend and mentioned doing the SD thing. He is adamently against it and refuses to believe that a SD relationship is possible without sex. I've given up asking him, it just pisses him off and he considers it cheating. So, if your relationship is important, and ya'll live together, its not going to be easy to hide this kind of thing, as SD take up a lot of personal time.

ohiogirl26
02-22-2010, 08:23 PM
I checked out the couple SD websites you guys have mentioned all through this thread & I really want to join one (or both) to see what happens....since I'm only looking for an 'online' arrangement....should I still join them OR is there another place I should look?

Thank youuuuuu for input :)

mistresscyn
07-29-2011, 02:25 AM
I figured I'd answer something that came up a while back:

A) Yes, there's guys into Domme chicks on the SD sites. No, not all guys are looking for sex on there, some even say it in their profile. With that being said, some are looking for BDSM services instead, thus the reason why they don't want sex. (There's also guys that want submissive chicks, they'll say so in their profile.)

B) If you know how to scout profiles, you won't have any time wasted messaging or reply to guys. I can pretty much tell by most guys profiles if I'm wasting my time or not. "Ughhhh...soo horny!" isn't going to get a message or reply from me.

C) Don't do the BDSM stuff if you don't know what you're doing because someone could get (seriously) hurt. (That, and some of these guys are into things that would make you personally feel that a sexual relationship would be better.)

kristalyne
08-12-2011, 06:57 AM
Take these silly tricks' moneys, ladies! At least these egotistical, good for nothing idiot men can make themselves useful for once by doing something for us. That's all they'll ever be good for, anyways.

I'm laughing when I read this but I love this quote it's so motivating!!
Anytime I want to go out hustling the SD i always go up to this post and read again and again ;D
Honestly..having SD can be draining >:(

Like my friend always say "It ain't easy lookin' good..someone has to FOOT the BILL"

DonaDiabla
12-07-2016, 04:06 AM
Bumping this necro thread for future decisions of the sugaring kind :)

SnuffleUffleGrass
12-07-2016, 06:16 PM
I've taken a long (maybe permanent) break from sugaring & all I want to add to this thread is, don't be afraid to say in so many words that you have certain expectations financially. My 1st sugar daddy was really a Splenda Daddy. I also realize now years later that he was leeching off of his wife financially- he treats most of the women in his life like they "owe" him something. So in reality there was never any real LTR potential in terms of returns for me or him.

The worst that will happen with ultimatums is he will say "no" or give you a speech about .....whatever. But you have to put it out there.

DonaDiabla
12-24-2016, 02:04 PM
Also, I would like to add that freestyling is the best way to find sugar daddies. Also, do not forget to develop your sugar baby hustle as well. I will be posting some tips for newbie sugar babies about freestyling and sugar baby hustle :)

babygrrrl
01-06-2017, 04:53 PM
Sorry girls....apparently now I'm a pimp/madame so this thread is gone.

Lol why do you say that

DonaDiabla
01-06-2017, 05:15 PM
You know, she is banned right :)


Lol why do you say that

DonaDiabla
01-07-2017, 06:44 PM
Freestyling tip number one: The truck stop


Hey ladies, I would like to say this to all my newbie and experience sugars. There is no shame in getting blue collar guys to create an arrangement with you. Anyways, I will tell you have to freestyle at a truck stop.

1. Check out the local truck stop and see if they have restaurants-Most truckers go to the truck stop to eat and shower. Often they have diners or restaurants inside of the truck stops. Sometimes, truck stops will have fast food restaurants such as Popeyes or Taco bell.

2. Make sure you wear a cute top and jeans/leggings-Truckers often response to cute tops, jeans,leggings, and boots.

3. Make sure that you have business cards with your burner number on there. (You can make some cute ones at vistaprint)

4.Go up to truckers who are alone and engage them in shop talk. ( Talking about the trucking industry is a plus.)

5. Remember to be friendly and approachable.

6. You can also engage a trucker after he had his shower. (Just be careful.)

7. Go to the truck stop in the afternoon or evening.

8. Watch out for lot lizards and just do not be in their territories. ( There are few around in different states. Only lot lizards in California are in Fontana and Ontario)

9. Try to get as many numbers as you can within 4 hours.

10. Text or call every trucker within 4 days. ( You want him to remember you before he leaves to the next town.)

Next, I will tell you about how to have an allowance talk with a trucker within two weeks :) (Ps: it is a bit different then with white collar guys.)

whirlerz
01-07-2017, 09:31 PM
I'm in an area where there's lots of truck drivers, & some of them being their cars with or have them garaged nearb nearby, I've seen Audi's, BMW's etc.
Maybe the professional guys make more, but Ms P's correct, they're jerky self centered a/holes

babygrrrl
01-07-2017, 10:35 PM
I'm in an area where there's lots of truck drivers, & some of them being their cars with or have them garaged nearb nearby, I've seen Audi's, BMW's etc.
Maybe the professional guys make more, but Ms P's correct, they're jerky self centered a/holes

I will actually agree with that.

DonaDiabla
01-07-2017, 11:37 PM
Hey ladies,

I will tell you how to screen truck drivers.

Screening truck drivers:

1.You can use verifyhim and also get the name of his driving company. (Top trucking companies such as Swift and Warren often know all of their drivers' names)

2.Sometimes, truck drivers themselves will volunteer their information as well.

3.Also screen for DUIs, Domestic Violence cases, and etc...

4. You should be all set ;) Good luck with your blue collar sugaring, ladies.

bunnydoll
01-11-2017, 04:55 PM
I've wondered about sugaring but it seems so complicated and I'd rather do it free styling than online but maybe one day

DonaDiabla
02-16-2017, 05:00 AM
Okay, I want to talk about establishing an arrangement with your blue collar guy:

1. You guys should be go out for four dates before talking about your allowance. (Blue collar guys such as Truckers need to feel that you are interested more than in his money.)

2. While on your second date, you should decided how much you want and if you want him to cover your monthly expenses before asking him.

3. Please do not sleep with them before talking about the arrangement and allowance.

4. Your hustle should be "a nice girl looking for some help and fun". (Truckers and other highly paid blue collar workers loves helping "nice but wild" girls)

5. During your fourth date; you should bring up the arrangement and allowance during dinner. Never talk about your arrangement during breakfast or lunch.

6. After you guys discuss your arrangement; you need to talk about if you shall get paid per meeting or weekly. ( I always get a weekly allowance because it is easier for me.)

Some more tips:

That most truckers and other highly paid blue collared guys are more willing to give you more for non-sexual arrangements than rich guys. Usually, girls do not like talking to them and they just want companionship.

Show interested in their professions and they love you for it.

Never be afraid to be a jeans and t-shirt type of girl around these guys. :)

Luvlyone
03-02-2017, 12:07 PM
Bump. Great read. Thanks for the help ladies!

DonaDiabla
05-08-2017, 12:50 PM
Okay, Ladies, I decided to talk about screening guys such as lawyers and doctors:

Screening lawyers and doctors:

1.You can use verifyhim and screen him with a fine tooth comb.

2. You used the medical board of your state's license verification for doctors.

3. You used the american bar association attorney search and the state bar of whatever state you live in for lawyers.

4. Make sure that you check to see if he is apart of any medical or law associations. ;)

Good luck with your doctor and lawyer sugar POT :)

chocolatebombshell
11-24-2017, 04:01 PM
Bumping

HoneyMachado
12-30-2017, 02:09 PM
truck drivers? aren't sugar daddies meant to be rich?

DonaDiabla
12-30-2017, 05:55 PM
Actually, I was talking about truckers who were owner-operators or runners. You see, owner-operators make the most as truckers which is 300,000 +. Meanwhile, guys who run that truck for months without too many stops also have great income. I talked about truckers and other highly paid blue collar men because it is less competition. Frankly, I have gotten great allowances out of them without too much effort. A lot of girls want the doctors and businessmen but that dosen't mean that you get great allowance out of them. :)


truck drivers? aren't sugar daddies meant to be rich?

magicgembliss
12-30-2017, 10:56 PM
Actually, I was talking about truckers who were owner-operators or runners. You see, owner-operators make the most as truckers which is 300,000 +. Meanwhile, guys who run that truck for months without too many stops also have great income.

I second this, my roommie is a trucker.

HoneyMachado
01-02-2018, 11:29 AM
Yeah many White collar men give pennies. They'll pay the bare minimum

SnuffleUffleGrass
01-02-2018, 04:06 PM
Yeah many White collar men give pennies. They'll pay the bare minimum

Many white collar men are control freaks with sadistic tendencies. They will try manipulation tactics on you THEN insult you when you take their low offer. That's how they maximize the thrill of conquest. I've learned this hard lesson in both regular dating scenarios and in the adult industry.

SnuffleUffleGrass
01-02-2018, 04:08 PM
Actually, I was talking about truckers who were owner-operators or runners. You see, owner-operators make the most as truckers which is 300,000 +. Meanwhile, guys who run that truck for months without too many stops also have great income. I talked about truckers and other highly paid blue collar men because it is less competition. Frankly, I have gotten great allowances out of them without too much effort. A lot of girls want the doctors and businessmen but that dosen't mean that you get great allowance out of them. :)

A lot of truckers never spend what they make due to lack of opportunities to do so...or just pure exhaustion. I've gone on trips with truckers & between the driving & occasionally unpacking freight...they just want to eat and sleep. They do get lonely though. I respect most truckers.... honestly where I grew up it was one of the better income opportunities for guys.

whirlerz
01-02-2018, 04:59 PM
Many white collar men are control freaks with sadistic tendencies. They will try manipulation tactics on you THEN insult you when you take their low offer. That's how they maximize the thrill of conquest. I've learned this hard lesson in both regular dating scenarios and in the adult industry.
Right on, can't stand their sekf-entitled 'tudes


A lot of truckers never spend what they make due to lack of opportunities to do so...or just pure exhaustion. I've gone on trips with truckers & between the driving & occasionally unpacking freight...they just want to eat and sleep. They do get lonely though. I respect most truckers.... honestly where I grew up it was one of the better income opportunities for guys.

Yep, so true

magicgembliss
01-05-2018, 03:14 AM
Many white collar men are control freaks with sadistic tendencies. They will try manipulation tactics on you THEN insult you when you take their low offer. That's how they maximize the thrill of conquest. I've learned this hard lesson in both regular dating scenarios and in the adult industry.

This is definitely the profile of some "men" (*vomits*) in both the online dating scene and the adult industry. It goes beyond white collar men though. I legit pity empty shells like this- there is a screw inside their brain (dopaminergic pathway dysfunction) that is missing and they are constantly hunting for a thrill to fill the hole it leaves. They are never happy.

SnuffleUffleGrass
01-05-2018, 11:11 AM
This is definitely the profile of some "men" (*vomits*) in both the online dating scene and the adult industry. It goes beyond white collar men though. I legit pity empty shells like this- there is a screw inside their brain (dopaminergic pathway dysfunction) that is missing and they are constantly hunting for a thrill to fill the hole it leaves. They are never happy.

Yes your description is perfect. My first boyfriend was very sadistic (he was abused as a kid but instead of learning from the experience he chose to be an abuser too.) He only ever worked his way into middle management in the white collar world because he had fundamental misunderstandings about how to treat people.


Back on topic- I stupidly didn't think about this when I had a Seeking Arrangement profile..pad your online profile out with fluff so you can save the meaningful conversation for the first face to face.

magicgembliss
01-06-2018, 05:40 AM
Yes your description is perfect. My first boyfriend was very sadistic (he was abused as a kid but instead of learning from the experience he chose to be an abuser too.) He only ever worked his way into middle management in the white collar world because he had fundamental misunderstandings about how to treat people.



https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0166432815002570

https://s3.amazonaws.com/academia.edu.documents/33185181/A_review_of_behavioral_and_biological.pdf?AWSAcces sKeyId=AKIAIWOWYYGZ2Y53UL3A&Expires=1515245933&Signature=6o7ViCYu1IXJquLErRb87mQDBwg%3D&response-content-disposition=inline%3B%20filename%3DA_review_of_beh avioral_and_biological_co.pdf

Likely he was abused because the psychopath gene runs in his family and so his parents were born this way too.

SnuffleUffleGrass
01-06-2018, 09:22 AM
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0166432815002570

https://s3.amazonaws.com/academia.edu.documents/33185181/A_review_of_behavioral_and_biological.pdf?AWSAcces sKeyId=AKIAIWOWYYGZ2Y53UL3A&Expires=1515245933&Signature=6o7ViCYu1IXJquLErRb87mQDBwg%3D&response-content-disposition=inline%3B%20filename%3DA_review_of_beh avioral_and_biological_co.pdf

Likely he was abused because the psychopath gene runs in his family and so his parents were born this way too.

Yes his dad was super abusive. He mentioned Everyone told him he was just like his dad even though he loathed him ...the moral of this story...if people say that pay attention.

whodathoe
01-20-2018, 06:48 PM
I have to freestyle. The sd sites don't work for me. I have a gnd/sexy nerd look so guys go for me because "a nice girl like you wouldn't know about that lifestyle."

So when I start asking favors/$ I look like a friend that needs help not a SB (that's how it should be anyway)

HoneyMachado
01-21-2018, 03:44 PM
What do you think of freestyling in bars and restaurants?
So many women there usually

BondGirl007
01-21-2018, 03:51 PM
What do you think of freestyling in bars and restaurants?
So many women there usually

Since Backpage went down, Lexington Ave. with all the hotels & bars in Manhattan is now known to civvies as "Hooker Alley" again, just like the 1970's & 80's -- sugarbabies, escorts, dommes, dancers, all out there freestyling now... The authorities are going to force every SWer out into the streets, and the dangers thereof, if they don't back-off & finally decriminalize already!!

HoneyMachado
01-21-2018, 04:08 PM
Really? Wow

It's not an easy hustle, time consuming and expensive

DonaDiabla
01-21-2018, 04:47 PM
I never freestyled at bars because it was too many girls. But since I go after certain highly paid blue-collar workers; I go to certain restaurants and other places to freestyle. It is hell of better than wasting time combing through sugar sites for guys. I never get what I desired from sugar sites. :) However, it depends on your region, who want to freestyle with, and your look.


What do you think of freestyling in bars and restaurants?
So many women there usually