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JDanielle
04-13-2008, 08:36 PM
I don't post here that often but I found this topic intriguing, I've been toying with this idea for awhile so when I read through this I finally decided to try it and see what happens. I made a profile on sd4me.com and a couple of guys have shown interest.
Assuming this goes far enough for me to meet with them at all, let alone regularly, my biggest problem will be keeping them interested. I am a very reserved person and I often come off as unfriendly because I am so shy. What are some things you girls talked about with your SDs on those first meetings? How different is it from getting acquainted with, say, a VIP customer in the club? What should I do if he is not a very big talker?
21stcenturyfox
04-14-2008, 02:34 AM
i already know about money slavery, i have been involved in it for two years, i was interested to know if it transpired into sugardaddyom
CollegeCutie21
04-14-2008, 08:41 AM
gotcha
RoseLeigh
04-14-2008, 08:56 AM
I'd be interesting in knowing how much info these guys want as well! If they're paying your bills, how much of the actual bill would they see?
Nini Nieb
04-14-2008, 09:04 AM
I have a technical issue ...
Can your SD see your location by your email IPS or whatever ???
Vyanka
04-14-2008, 09:22 AM
i already know about money slavery, i have been involved in it for two years, i was interested to know if it transpired into sugardaddyom
I was contacted by one(& he was hot too), but I didn't see that many like him on there. He was the only one and he was on seekingarrangements. The guy never contacted me back though, so I wonder.
I'd love to have a sexless SD too. But I found it hard to find on those sites.
cutey5032
04-14-2008, 10:28 AM
If they're paying your bills, how much of the actual bill would they see?
OMG I love you hahahaha!!!
Aubreyyy
04-14-2008, 02:42 PM
Obviously they would know where you lived if they were paying your bills. A SD is someone you develop a long term, ongoing thing with...not a fly by night, lets get someone different each month kinda thing...
RoseLeigh
04-14-2008, 06:00 PM
Obviously they would know where you lived if they were paying your bills. A SD is someone you develop a long term, ongoing thing with...not a fly by night, lets get someone different each month kinda thing...
That I figured, I was just wondering how much these guys know about your actual financial situation, etc.
Aubreyyy
04-14-2008, 06:05 PM
LADIES! Second installment coming tonight :)
Rose, you can choose how much you tell them. I always tell them "I work hard, but I like to play harder- and thats where you come in! My taste just overreaches my budget!" b/c I've found they much rather shower you in luxury that you couldn't afford instead of paying your rent. So, my SD knows that I am not poor by any means, but not as rich as him, lol
bellasera
04-14-2008, 07:22 PM
Yay for installment #2!! Aubreyyy, how much time would you say you spend w/your SD a week?
kikiwiki
04-14-2008, 07:41 PM
Made a free profile on SD4me. This is what has happened so far and some questions.
I recieved 12 emails since posting my profile a few days ago. My profile has one pic with no face shot. Of the people who have emailed me, most were standard non members where I could not read thier email unless I upgrade to the $20/month membership. Of the members I could contact, 4 were gold, 2 of only from my area. I contacted one by phone and he seemed normal but was looking for more of a relationship and didnt have a problem taking care of his girlfirend as he explained about his previous relationship. The other local has not responded yet. The 2 other gold guys:one wanted my phone mumber and the other is just looking to fool around, he just happens to be rich, didnt sound like he would be generous. How can you screen these guys to be real SD's? I was thinking about upgrading my membership to read the other emails but those guys didn't pay so why should I? Aren't they the SD's and shouldn't have a problem paying for membership? And what's up with so many out of towners? I live in Vegas, so there's gotta be more SD's here than let's say, little rock? So location is important too right? BTW, one email I got, the subject line said that he knew me from the gym. Should we be that worried about people we know may find what we're doing?
PaigeDWinter
04-14-2008, 07:47 PM
For those who were discussing financial slavery... keep in mind that a lot of SD sites are ANTI-financial slavery. They hate the very idea of it so they do not allow it on their site. Watch what you say to men on these sites, and what your profile says.
That being said, my experiences with SD sites was laughable. I made it very clear in my profile that it was NO SEX. All I got were emails from guys who obviously cant read or choose to ignore the NO SEX part.
My SD? I met him at an art show. Yes, we have sex. I'm moving in with him this month.
RoseLeigh
04-14-2008, 10:46 PM
LADIES! Second installment coming tonight :)
Rose, you can choose how much you tell them. I always tell them "I work hard, but I like to play harder- and thats where you come in! My taste just overreaches my budget!" b/c I've found they much rather shower you in luxury that you couldn't afford instead of paying your rent. So, my SD knows that I am not poor by any means, but not as rich as him, lol
Thanks! I wasn't sure on the angle-a lot of the girl's ads I've seen are totally "I have no job, pay my bills." Seemed like a bad idea. I'd totally use the money to pay bills though :) I posted an ad-got a bunch of emails so far (no pic yet). One decent sounding one who says he's had two sugarbabys-one that stayed "friendly" the other was apparently more of a mistress set up. The other emails have either been guys who don't even mention money or anything SD-ish in their ad (seems like they just wanna hook up) or email or pervs. This is interesting.
jaizaine
04-15-2008, 01:47 AM
if no sex what exactly r the guys getting out of this?
i really dont get why any guy would be part of this?
thechaosfairy
04-15-2008, 02:23 AM
if no sex what exactly r the guys getting out of this?
i really dont get why any guy would be part of this?
You could ask the same about strip clubs...
JDanielle
04-15-2008, 02:27 AM
Jaizaine, I can't say for sure because I am not a SD or a man, but it's probably similar to why men go to strip clubs. They get attention a from beautiful woman who can make them feel special, listen to them, go out and do something fun with them, etcetera.
After reading about money slaves in this thread I looked it up and I can't imagine anyone (except the domme of course) getting satisfaction out of that. To each their own, I guess.
jaizaine
04-15-2008, 02:31 AM
^^
yes that's true about strip clubs. I gues in strip clubs alcohol and the hustle are used to lure them in. I guess Im just surprised that these men sign up to a site to be a sugar daddy so they know it's about the money before they even meet the girl.
what is a money slave?
kikiwiki
04-15-2008, 10:50 AM
So went on a "date" tonight for "SD" guy. He went on and on about himself, even gave me a book he wrote with his business card. He told me how he hated how girls talk about money, and especially in the begining, and how those materialistic things will eventually come and he has no problem doing them. STRINGS ATTACHED is that he wants a relationship. I then told him I had to go and work. He offered me a ride to rhino and there I worked the rest of the night. He continued to text me of how if I played my cards right, I wouldn't do this "shit " anymore. I'm done with this game... Got an hour VIP the first 10min I entered rhino. It's a sign! SD's are a lot of work with too much head games. Keep it in the club ladies!
Nini Nieb
04-15-2008, 12:09 PM
He told me how he hated how girls talk about money, and especially in the begining, and how those materialistic things will eventually come and he has no problem doing them.
I would end the conversation right there and finish my steak and leave before the dessert }:D He would look so stupid !! Gives me a good mental image ...
xoxoGracexoxo
04-15-2008, 12:27 PM
I made a profile on one of the sites out of curiosity, got contacted right away. Dude sent me his real name and holy shit he's a big noise around here. Now he wants my name, and we work in the same field, so he'll totally be able to look me up and stuff. A little too close for comfort. I'm getting very, very cold feet. Probably couldn't go through with this anyway...the boundaries seem so ill-defined. In the club it's x ammount of time for $x, no strings, and I like it that way.
CollegeCutie21
04-15-2008, 01:05 PM
what is a money slave?
It's a BDSM related thing. Instead of being dominated sexually, they want to be dominated financially. It's a turn on as a sub to have an area of your life that is supposed to be "yours," taken over and controlled by someone else. It's more of a mind fuck than a money thing.
CollegeCutie21
04-15-2008, 01:08 PM
Quick Question: So if a guy wants a SD role, but doesn't want to give an allowance, he just wants to pay you for the visits. (1-2 times per month) Dinners, shopping, plus payment, how much should you be asking for? This actually came up with a customer last night and we exchanged emails but I don't know how much to ask for.
Btw, I had this thread in mind while talking to him, and it definitely helped me know where to lead the conversation.
VeraLynn
04-15-2008, 02:15 PM
I already joined a couple of these sites because of this thread. Thank you a million for this info!! I'm going to keep myself on this thread for more info as it comes.
My parents are helping pay for our wedding, but... a few extra people, a new car the end of this year, and/or saving for a house wouldn't hurt!!!
Zabrina
04-15-2008, 02:17 PM
I've got profiles on some of these sites.
With most guys, it really is a cat a mouse game and they will be a waste of time. They have money, but most do not want to give anything to you until after you are sleeping with them. In the meantime, they expect dates and are turned off and offended when you try to get paid for them. They have delusions of finding girlfriends, or gf's on the side. They don't plan to be a SD until the sexual relationship starts. Its a huge head game and is like finding a needle in a haystack to actually get paid before you give something up.
Most of the time its easier just to go to work!
At least the worst ones you can typically avoid because they will be gross from the get go. When you ask for a photo, they will send nudes. They will send messages like this one I just got...
I say the following with all due respect
and I hope not to offend you, because that's not my intention,
so I apologize for my explicit honesty ahead of time!
I'm just a normal, healthy, honest guy,
who happens to be VERY horny all the time!
I'm not into anything weird or overly kinky
(maybe a little kink within reason is o.k with me!)
Most of all, I want to let you know that...
I AM RECENTLY TESTED NEGATIVE FOR HIV/STDs WITH DOCUMENTATION!
because I want a lady who is willing to let me make love to her
without a condom, I want to feel your warm, wet pussy
wrapped tightly around my cock as we make love.
Then I want to fill your satisfied pussy with my semen.
Do doubt, it really is like a full time job just to sort through the nasty turds, liars, and idiots who want an actual gf. Cultivating a relationship takes TIME and LOADS of bullshitting on your part.
VegasPrincess
04-15-2008, 02:22 PM
Then I want to fill your satisfied pussy with my semen. [/I]
.
Eeeeww!! Who says that? No thanks!!
Zabrina
04-15-2008, 02:50 PM
Yeah I threw up a lil. The guy is late 40's, fat, and hideous btw. Luckily the sites have a block button.
Chrissy68
04-15-2008, 03:01 PM
what happened to the second installment??
(zabrina: yeah, vom in mouth no doubt!)
pretty
04-15-2008, 03:07 PM
aubrey- if youre not on one of the sites
but have what may appear to be a sugar daddy thing developing with a
club customer
how can you tell if hes down for an arrangement?
should i just ask him if he is?
or how would i word that to get a good positive beneficial response from him and not offend him or anything?
Zabrina
04-15-2008, 03:51 PM
Okay I've been playing on SD4me for the last couple hours. I have to say, this is far more disturbing than work. This is a collection of all the old, gross, stinky-breath customers that offer cash to go back to thier hotel. It is all of those nasty's but in virtual form. I now think less of the human race after spending time exchanging emails with several of them.
WE are thinking of tens of thousands of dollars and then ...maybe some action in gratitude... maybe.
THEY are thinking, ACTION right away and money after. <Cannot emphasize this enough. These guys are mostly hobbyists and know the game.
A tip....
SD4me seems to be the low rent sugardaddy site. The guys there are cheaper, more crass, and make less money than guys on the better pay sites.
Aubreyyy
04-15-2008, 04:02 PM
Part two up!
Sorry ladies, I've been sick the past couple of days :(
Wrote this on the train to meet my new SD... SO glad I'm not searching anymore! He's a divorced ambulence chaser lol...fun storie for sure!
BlueJeanBaby
04-15-2008, 04:11 PM
I dunno...when I first started reading the thread I thought, "hell, maybe a SD isn't a bad idea"...but the more I read and think about it, knowing how I am, the concept is kinda scaring and creeping me out. That's just me though, I'm not insulting anyone...just not for me.
Aubreyyy
04-15-2008, 04:14 PM
^^^
Its a little intense when you first start to think about it for sure...I remember being so creeped out by it when I first thought about doing it.
The more time went on, I realized it's much better than dancing. I see someone once a week TOPS and make 3-5k a month? GOLDEN!
kikiwiki
04-15-2008, 04:52 PM
Just read the 2nd installment. I'm sorry, but it sounds like waaayyy too much work at the computer and setting up "dates". I rather just spend all that time at the gym, reading HH and other industry related help and just going to work at the club where you're gauranteed to make some kind of money.
For those of you that live in cities where weekends are you money making nights, then I can see where you can invest the rest of your time on these sites.
Aubreyyy
04-15-2008, 05:13 PM
^^
Its certainly not meant for everyone...
I've also found that there really is an age limit on it. I don't know if it works the same way for anyone over say, 27? Being young is part of the allure I guess.
VeraLynn
04-15-2008, 05:19 PM
^^
Its certainly not meant for everyone...
I've also found that there really is an age limit on it. I don't know if it works the same way for anyone over say, 27? Being young is part of the allure I guess.
I made an account on two of the sites and didn't hide my age.. 31. And I got a slew of responses. I do look young, though.
Aubreyyy
04-15-2008, 05:21 PM
I made an account on two of the sites and didn't hide my age.. 31. And I got a slew of responses. I do look young, though.
There ya go then! :)
Maybe b/c I've only searched LA and NYC I get a lot of the "If you're over X years old, need not apply" crew.
vivianbear
04-15-2008, 05:58 PM
Part two up!
Sorry ladies, I've been sick the past couple of days :(
Wrote this on the train to meet my new SD... SO glad I'm not searching anymore! He's a divorced ambulence chaser lol...fun storie for sure!
Sorry, where's part two posted? I can't find it... I'm lame....:'(
Zabrina
04-15-2008, 06:31 PM
^Its been edited into the first post.
Aubreyyy
04-17-2008, 12:21 PM
Ladies....just wanted to give you a quick success story. I've been through a couple of SDs- SD #1 just bought me a bunch of presents, SD #2 paid my rent.
I met SD #3 the other day and I am so frekaing excited. He's paying all my bills, gave me a BMW 3 series coupe, and I have an allowance of 5k a month. To see him once a week, in Philly, for dinner and drinks, and to flaunt around his ex wife a bit.
WHOOOO!
Vyanka
04-17-2008, 12:29 PM
Girl, you have been so lucky. My SD experiences were horrible. LOL.
Vyanka
04-17-2008, 12:35 PM
It's a BDSM related thing. Instead of being dominated sexually, they want to be dominated financially. It's a turn on as a sub to have an area of your life that is supposed to be "yours," taken over and controlled by someone else. It's more of a mind fuck than a money thing.
Now that's something I want. Is there a particular website for this?
CollegeCutie21
04-17-2008, 12:45 PM
Not sure, anytime I get paid for BDSM stuff, it's just the kinky beat me kind of stuff. I've never practiced financial slavery with anyone.
xoxoGracexoxo
04-17-2008, 12:52 PM
Now that's something I want. Is there a particular website for this?
Tons. A lot of dommes have their own. Financialslavery.net is a general site about the topic.
Sophia_Ashley
04-17-2008, 12:57 PM
I signed up with seeking an arrangement and posted a pretty well thought out profile. I lied about my age as I figured this would be a factor. I made sure to put it between 21 and 25. Good range I think. Anyways...
I have a LOT of emails daily. Typically 15 to 20. Out of those 15 and 20 emails. 2 are worth responding to. Just two. Most are filled with LONG winded bullshit talk. I delete those. Then there are the ones that are just right off the bat filled with sexual crap. Delete again. The ONLY two in the week I've had this profile that seems to hold any promise.
One is a huge lawyer in Vegas. Right off the bat he wanted my email so he could send me his info. I have a bs email for that site so I said sure go ahead. He sent links to his ads, his website and yes I googled him. He works for the NBA. There you go. But he's pushy. Too pushy. Very "lets talk" and after working as long as I've worked in strip clubs I notice red flags pretty easily.
Then the other in his opening email said "Lets do lunch, I'll go ahead and pay you for your time just to come to lunch so you know I'm not playing head games 250 ".
I'm a curious person though that knows there is always a catch so I have to wonder..why 250? Why not 300 or 200? Makes me think he sees a lot of escorts since that is the going rate around here.
Humph. I dunno. I'm doing this more out of curiosity than want or need. I rather go to work and get the money and leave the shit in the club. This gives me something to do I guess.
Zabrina is hilarious and her depiction seems about right on
Vyanka
04-17-2008, 01:05 PM
Tons. A lot of dommes have their own. Financialslavery.net is a general site about the topic.
Damn, perfect!
Aubreyyy
04-17-2008, 01:08 PM
I signed up with seeking an arrangement and posted a pretty well thought out profile. I lied about my age as I figured this would be a factor. I made sure to put it between 21 and 25. Good range I think. Anyways...
I have a LOT of emails daily. Typically 15 to 20. Out of those 15 and 20 emails. 2 are worth responding to. Just two. Most are filled with LONG winded bullshit talk. I delete those. Then there are the ones that are just right off the bat filled with sexual crap. Delete again. The ONLY two in the week I've had this profile that seems to hold any promise.
One is a huge lawyer in Vegas. Right off the bat he wanted my email so he could send me his info. I have a bs email for that site so I said sure go ahead. He sent links to his ads, his website and yes I googled him. He works for the NBA. There you go. But he's pushy. Too pushy. Very "lets talk" and after working as long as I've worked in strip clubs I notice red flags pretty easily.
Then the other in his opening email said "Lets do lunch, I'll go ahead and pay you for your time just to come to lunch so you know I'm not playing head games 250 ".
I'm a curious person though that knows there is always a catch so I have to wonder..why 250? Why not 300 or 200? Makes me think he sees a lot of escorts since that is the going rate around here.
Humph. I dunno. I'm doing this more out of curiosity than want or need. I rather go to work and get the money and leave the shit in the club. This gives me something to do I guess.
Zabrina is hilarious and her depiction seems about right on
I wouldn't cut the guys who get to right to the point... They've prob just been lookin for a while and know that a lot of the girls that aren't serious are just bullshitting and don't like to talk on the phone. Getting someone on the phone up front is a good way to weed out the tire kickers, and he probably knows that.
Also- why wouldn't you take $250 for lunch? I think he sounds like a good candidate! You know he's willing to pay that way...that he's not a bullshitter!
Sophia_Ashley
04-17-2008, 01:12 PM
I never said I was unwilling to take any money off of anyones hands lol.
I just find it odd that it's a number he came up with.
kikiwiki
04-17-2008, 02:40 PM
One is a huge lawyer in Vegas. Right off the bat he wanted my email so he could send me his info. I have a bs email for that site so I said sure go ahead. He sent links to his ads, his website and yes I googled him. He works for the NBA. There you go. But he's pushy. Too pushy. Very "lets talk" and after working as long as I've worked in strip clubs I notice red flags pretty easily.
Then the other in his opening email said "Lets do lunch, I'll go ahead and pay you for your time just to come to lunch so you know I'm not playing head games 250 ".
I'm a curious person though that knows there is always a catch so I have to wonder..why 250? Why not 300 or 200? Makes me think he sees a lot of escorts since that is the going rate around here.
Is this guy name Michael? I met someone who sounded like that on Match.com last year. I explained my date in a thread a while ago. He didn't pay me but I wasn't looking for a SD then, I wanted a boyfriend. He was a lush and I walked out in the middle of dinner after the second date. PM me if this is him.
RoseLeigh
04-17-2008, 10:28 PM
Well, I've already got a freaking stalker who emailed me while I was putting up my ad (when it basically said nothing but name, age, etc) and now hasn't stopped since. Keeps emailing to ask if I'm 'serious', etc. Lovely.