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Sh0t
04-13-2008, 09:10 AM
They had a lot of wisdom, in many cases their absences are noticed and lamented. One girl in particular people still message me about here because people know we are friends IRL and they want her insight to the SoCal stripping world.



Okay. Tell me truth. You realize that you are not making sense, and just want to see how long you can keep me replying right? This is like a practical joke of some kind?
Actually, the exact opposite. I post hoping you will skip over replying to anything I post unless it is specifically directed at you. You very often seem to get the exact opposite from what I post.

x-damage has been doing his fawning on the low, complimenting the inverted-pinkies on their supposed blunt honesty.

I think some of them are just chasing the new fad of blue side = cool chicks post there.

xdamage
04-13-2008, 09:14 AM
x-damage has been doing his fawning on the low, complimenting the inverted-pinkies on their supposed blunt honesty.

QFT ... my genes are wired to do this, no matter how much I fight it ;)

Lysondra
04-13-2008, 09:16 AM
I knew what he was doing :P But he's still not getting any.

Jenny
04-13-2008, 09:22 AM
I think some of them are just chasing the new fad of blue side = cool chicks post there.
Yes. They all just want your approval Sh0t. Male approval. What stripperweb is all about.

Sh0t
04-13-2008, 09:27 AM
Can I get a comment from you on the thread title Jenny? Do you think SW pushes the casual sex angle too much, especially on girls who obviously can't handle sex out of a relationship very well?

Any comments on the sugar daddy issue?

hockeybobby
04-13-2008, 09:28 AM
I think some of them are just chasing the new fad of blue side = cool chicks post there.

If it's a fad, I'm ok with that. More chicks here = cool. Imo.

hockeybobby
04-13-2008, 09:32 AM
I knew what he was doing :P But he's still not getting any.

That's harsh. You could give him a little. He's a good guy.

Jenny
04-13-2008, 09:37 AM
Can I get a comment from you on the thread title Jenny? Do you think SW pushes the casual sex angle too much, especially on girls who obviously can't handle sex out of a relationship very well?
Yes. I think girls (and for that matter guys) have a tendency to treat sex like a competition to see who is more badass rather than focusing on what they actually want. Nobody wants to say "Yeah, I like monogamous one on one sex in private in about... say 4 positions" even if that is actually what gets them off.


Any comments on the sugar daddy issue?
I'm not sure if you've characterized it right. I think the concern is that the money will dry up once you give it up - I don't think it's a moral issue. I also think there is a difference between work and play.

hockeybobby
04-13-2008, 09:42 AM
Yes. I think girls (and for that matter guys) have a tendency to treat sex like a competition to see who is more badass rather than focusing on what they actually want.

Oh man, this is true. I think it fades with age though....there is still competition, but it's not so much sex notches on the gun.

Casual Observer
04-13-2008, 10:10 AM
Then on the Sugardaddy like topics, the idea is to get as much for nothing. "Don't have sex with him!"

Give it away for free, and often.

But don't dare get paid for it. Slut. As if most men are going to go for that deal. Guys rich enough to be sugardaddies hopefully aren't that fucking stupid.

Thank you stripperweb. Horny men everywhere, like me, appreciate your fine wisdom.

This is why I respect pros much more than a preponderance of women out there; escorts and other sex professionals are at least up front about the fact that it's all about the money. Personally, I take comfort in that, because every guy here has been with a woman where it's been all about the money despite their protestations to the contrary.

Here's to honest women and professionals... <S>


To my perhaps faulty memory, we've had a couple people in the distant past who've posted in Blue saying, "Now, I want your honest opinion," and regretted it.

Your memory serves you well, JZ. More than a couple times people have had very rude awakenings as to their true place on the aesthetics scale.

Women aren't asking for your opinion; they're asking for your approval.


I don't personally find it "fake" when people are trying to be nice and looking for good things about people rather than their flaws. I mean it sort of seems like you are saying that when people post pictures that you don't think are hot enough they should be met with a deafening silence instead of happy-complimenty-encouragement?

Silence would be more gentle than derision, and if they can't read between the lines then perhaps some direct response is warranted. We're talking about people whose income is derived in large part from their appearance, or at least they hope it will be so. Have you seen some of the girls that post pictures in Picture Post? I mean, seriously; for every Bridgette or Zabrina or TigersMilk on this site, there's ten more girls that I wouldn't even tip at the rail, much less buy a dance from them. If that makes me a fucking asshole, then sign me up now, please; if a chick is indeed hot, I have no problem saying so but I'm not going to take part in the rampant and counter-productive self-esteem boosting that goes on upstairs. Why lie to these people? Isn't that "meaner" than saying, "Hey, you really should look into another line of work?"

Jenny is just falling back on her position that the piss poor quality of women flooding strip clubs is not a problem for either hot dancers or spending customers, and that it's some form of cosmic affirmative action taking place.

Sh0t
04-13-2008, 10:22 AM
You see. That's real talk right there.



Although one of those names is not like the other! I loved that game as a kid.

SW, despite having an above-average population of female members, is probably one of the worst sites for women because of the lack of honesty. More telling, to me, is the lack of "normal" guys to give contrast to some of the background of dull fawning.

Jenny
04-13-2008, 10:29 AM
I mean, seriously; for every Bridgette or Zabrina or TigersMilk on this site, there's ten more girls that I wouldn't even tip at the rail, much less buy a dance from them. If that makes me a fucking asshole, then sign me up now, please;
Well, A) it does - congratulations. That's a talent. B) There is no tip rail on stripperweb; this is the problem with you guys. You think stripperweb is a stripclub. Your approval isn't necessary or really even good for all that much. Like - what does it matter who you would tip if you're not tipping anyone?

if a chick is indeed hot, I have no problem saying so but I'm not going to take part in the rampant and counter-productive self-esteem boosting that goes on upstairs. Why lie to these people? Isn't that "meaner" than saying, "Hey, you really should look into another line of work?"
Yes it is. Particularly if you are founding your opinion not on the reality of the working environment but on some kind of aesthetic moral high ground in which you've decided who should make money, instead of who does. I think stripperweb acting as a self-esteem booster for women in the industry is just fine, and certainly wouldn't embrace a situation in which guys like you get to come in and pass judgments that you are normally expected to pay for. If you want to judge strippers, go to a club and do it with your wallet; you don't have to do it here.


Jenny is just falling back on her position that the piss poor quality of women flooding strip clubs is not a problem for either hot dancers or spending customers, and that it's some form of cosmic affirmative action taking place.
What are you on about, CO? This just sounds like nonsense to me, and I have no idea how it relates to anything I've ever said.

hockeybobby
04-13-2008, 10:39 AM
More telling, to me, is the lack of "normal" guys to give contrast to some of the background of dull fawning.

You aren't normal Sh0t. What makes you think you would recognize normal when you saw it?
This is not an insult btw.

Sh0t
04-13-2008, 10:44 AM
I'm more normal than these kiss asses and hobbyists.

That is explicitly why i do so well on here.

hockeybobby
04-13-2008, 10:55 AM
I'm more normal than these kiss asses and hobbyists.

That is explicitly why i do so well on here.

Normal would be someone falling somewhere in the middle on a bell curve for such things. You have a following precisely because you are out on the fringe.

yoda57us
04-13-2008, 11:24 AM
I'm more normal than these kiss asses and hobbyists.

That is explicitly why i do so well on here.


Oh please!

Andygirl
04-13-2008, 12:11 PM
Yes. Stupid stripperweb girls. Saying nice things instead of mean things and trying to make members feel good instead of feel bad. I mean, how are the real hotties supposed to know how much better they are than everyone else, if we just act like everyone is hot?

I wasn't suggesting they go around saying mean things, just that they not go completely overboard with fake compliments. It's not them saying, "Nice pic," it's them saying, "OMG, I am going to dream about you tonight. If I could only do you in a threesome with ________, and ________ my life would be complete. You are a goddess!!!!!"

Seriously, that shit is fake, annoying, and let's face it, a lie. I'm not going to blow sugar up anyone's ass. IMO, that's not being "nice" either. That's lying and being disingenuous in order to make yourself more likeable and accepted in the popularity contest that is SW. "Nice" is overrated.

youngBUTbanking
04-13-2008, 12:21 PM
^ I like her...

hockeybobby
04-13-2008, 12:32 PM
I want to have a threesome with you.

eta: not you ybb

miabella
04-13-2008, 01:11 PM
evolution of SW strippers-to-be posting pics about whether they were good looking enough to work:

"well, you could stand to fix your makeup. try x brand lipstick, and maybe back off on the blush. and hey, here's a link to a nice outfit to wear for auditions that will flatter your body type" or (and this actually happened many moons ago) "girl, you need to drop 20/40 (it was a large number) pounds if you want to work somewhere decent and go home with more than 100 a night". the girl in question lost the weight before looking for club work.

to

"omg you are so cute/hot/stacked/etc, you could work anywhere" or "you look great, i am sure you'll make money, you could use a little toning maybe, but once you start, that will happen on its own"

in place of specific, useful advice, at best now you get some generic 'needs more toning' comments, and toning is practically undefinable anyhow, which i guess makes it safe advice or something. i'm not prepared to blame it all on fawning. i'd rather blame it on the fact that if you're surrounded by girls who look 'untoned' (whatever that means), overweight with flopping bellyguts, or have meth-acne, etc., you start losing your desire to tell a girl to get herself looking great in specific ways. because you can look around the club and see that it clearly doesn't matter in terms of earning money. and some of those girls don't even do extras.

in my 1/2 decade experience of the stripping industry (including waitressing, heh), the number of newbie strippers (on and off SW) wanting to strip for just 100 or 200 a night has gone way up, and the industry will draw a lot of chaff if that is 'good enough' money, which it increasingly is. so maybe the SW girls are just not wanting to push vainly against the tide of women rushing to the club to make money since Real Jobs are trickier to come by in some locales.

xdamage
04-13-2008, 01:28 PM
That's harsh. You could give him a little. He's a good guy.

Thanks for the props, but one (or two) women in my life is already a full time job... I want no more right now.

My brain operates on auto-pilot sometimes. Good old playing the odds applies. We guys do that... flirt, compliment, play, even if we have no significant interest. I guess it is like spending a $1 a lottery ticket. We figure hey, for such a small investment why not play?

FBR
04-13-2008, 01:34 PM
Even at $20K off its still a significant investment. Ask yourself, if you walk down the driveway six months from now, will you like what you see parked at the end? For that kind of money you hope so. The fact that you are asking makes me think not.

FBR

Andygirl
04-13-2008, 01:38 PM
"omg you are so cute/hot/stacked/etc, you could work anywhere" or "you look great, i am sure you'll make money, you could use a little toning maybe, but once you start, that will happen on its own"

For certain, no favors are being done over there. Hell, its happening right now. Telling a girl she's awesome and ready to go to the club is going to backfire big time when that girl goes in and gets excuses like, "We're not hiring right now," or "The hiring manager isn't here," or "We only hire on the second Tuesday of the month," or "Come back on amateur night," etc., etc., and every other runaround technique known to man.

But I can't imagine anyone actually telling the truth. There is no nice way to tell someone that they aren't cut out for it, or that they aren't good looking enough to get hired. I guess those girls post their pics on the pink side rather than down here because they don't actually want to know the truth, they'd rather believe the unbelievable.

xdamage
04-13-2008, 01:48 PM
This reminds me of the American Idol try outs. So many kids show up whose parents have lied to them, told them they sing well, and then they find out the cold hard truth and the let down is much worse then if they had been told something like the truth all along. Sometimes we have to be honest to be kind, even if over the short term it seems cruel.

youngBUTbanking
04-13-2008, 01:49 PM
^ Great Analogy

Xdamage is on fire today.

hockeybobby
04-13-2008, 02:22 PM
For certain, no favors are being done over there. Hell, its happening right now. Telling a girl she's awesome and ready to go to the club is going to backfire big time when that girl goes in and gets excuses like, "We're not hiring right now," or "The hiring manager isn't here," or "We only hire on the second Tuesday of the month," or "Come back on amateur night," etc., etc., and every other runaround technique known to man.

But I can't imagine anyone actually telling the truth. There is no nice way to tell someone that they aren't cut out for it, or that they aren't good looking enough to get hired. I guess those girls post their pics on the pink side rather than down here because they don't actually want to know the truth, they'd rather believe the unbelievable.

Honestly, I would have no clue if a girl could be successful as a dancer, whatever she looked like. I mean, I could say if I'm attracted to her or not, but what good does that do her? it's one man's opinion. I've seen some things in my short sc career that have made me scratch my head. Guys are all over the board when it comes to who they'll get a dance from.

Sh0t
04-13-2008, 02:25 PM
That's sweet but some things are universals. Many of those "odd beauties" are just that. Odd beauties, that appeal as a novelty.

In particular, err on the skinny side of the weight question.

If your face isn't cute/pretty/whatever you better have a banging body. Not only a men loathe to spend money on bad deals, but stripping is also a competitive sport.

This also relates to relationship wisdom: Never be the ugliest or fattest girl at the dinner table.

Every guy senses when his chick is either the ugliest or the prettiest in a setting. It's very upsetting to be dating "the ugly one" in a group of girl friends.

yoda57us
04-13-2008, 04:59 PM
This reminds me of the American Idol try outs. So many kids show up whose parents have lied to them, told them they sing well, and then they find out the cold hard truth and the let down is much worse then if they had been told something like the truth all along. Sometimes we have to be honest to be kind, even if over the short term it seems cruel.


Good analogy, let me draw a comparison. As someone who works in pro audio I cringe when I hear most of the AI contestants try and carry a tune. Two nights ago I worked a private birthday party where the entertainment was a teenage brother and sister who sang and played guitar/fiddle/mandolin. They were related to the guest of honor. To be blunt they were absolutely terrible.
If I my arm was trapped under a rock and these two kids were singing in front of me I would chew my arm off to get away from the sound. Did anyone in the room think they had any talent? Probably not but they were among friends and family and nobody was a bout to go Simon Cowell on them. What would be the point? They were just having fun.

This is also kinda how I differentiate the "look at my new bewbies" pictures on the picture post thread from the "am I too fat, too thin, too tattooed, too tall, too short, too blond, too brunette or too pierced threads that show up everywhere else on SW and SCJ. The former is just a bunch of people having fun and should be viewed that way. There is no reason to be anything but either positive and supportive or completely silent. The later type of question threads deserve an honest answer. Not necessarily mean spirited but certainly honest. Again, silence works to. Blowing smoke up somebody's ass when they want honesty and are trying, or thinking about trying to make a living as a dancer accomplishes nothing.

All Good Things
04-13-2008, 05:20 PM
I think it's a terrible thing because I'm here digging for pussy. So every hot girl lost is a tragedy.

About five days ago you posted that you were at "zero" with SW girls, unlike Mast and I.

I found that hard to believe then; even harder to believe now. The last time you posted a video on pink, they stampeded over Djoser to get to you.

And you are "digging" for pussy? The man of "all the PMs I get are offers of sex?"

I am sooooo confused. ;D

Jenny
04-13-2008, 05:20 PM
Well... that's cute and all, but I don't think anyone would take Simon Cowell as seriously if he were just some dude who bought records sometimes. I think people would take him even less seriously if he rarely bought records and went around complaining that records that sold had no right to sell because he didn't think they were any good, and judged someone's talent by that criteria. You know "today's music is anywhere near as good as it was in the 90s. This band shouldn't be selling CDs."

As well - can I just point out that anyone claiming that the criticism set out in blue towards some of these poor, dumb girls who post photos for your approval is for "their own good" is either retarded or severely deluded.

Sh0t
04-13-2008, 05:26 PM
TOO: you need to listen to more Papoose. Do you ever listen to real, straight from the streets, hip-hop?

To be fair, I said half of them are that. The other half are comments on posts I make that they wish they could make but they fear their reputation.

re: Jenny on idol

It might be for their own good if the other eventuality is a severe rude-awakening from people they care more about the opinions of. That's why we practice or get opinions before we go try the real deal. Unless you are of a more reckless set, as I most admit to being.

The idol comparison was just cute and obviously isn't the best representation, so we really shouldn't go into much detail trying to make it fit or countering it.

My main problem with TOO is our disconnect on female fashion.


Shoes like that just have no place in TOO's world. But they are the standard issue in my own. Shame.

Andygirl
04-13-2008, 05:44 PM
Honestly, I would have no clue if a girl could be successful as a dancer, whatever she looked like. I mean, I could say if I'm attracted to her or not, but what good does that do her? it's one man's opinion. I've seen some things in my short sc career that have made me scratch my head. Guys are all over the board when it comes to who they'll get a dance from.

Yeah, but strippers who have worked in many clubs have a pretty good idea what it takes to get hired, especially in the kind of club you'd actually want to work at. It's cruel for them to tell an obese girl, or an unattractive girl, that she is gorgeous and ready to go audition at any club she chooses. That is what I'm talking about when I say they aren't doing them any favors by blowing sugar up their asses.

mr_punk
04-13-2008, 05:54 PM
evolution of SW strippers-to-be posting pics about whether they were good looking enough to work:evolution of SW strippers-to-be posting pics about whether they were good looking enough to work:interesting summary, Mia.

in my 1/2 decade experience of the stripping industry (including waitressing, heh), the number of newbie strippers (on and off SW) wanting to strip for just 100 or 200 a night has gone way up, and the industry will draw a lot of chaff if that is 'good enough' money, which it increasingly is. so maybe the SW girls are just not wanting to push vainly against the tide of women rushing to the club to make money since Real Jobs are trickier to come by in some locales.get out! SW girls happy with $100 or $200 a night and not looking their best while at work or looking for work. whatever happened to the überstrippers around here? LOL...oh that's right, many of them are gone.
As well - can I just point out that anyone claiming that the criticism set out in blue towards some of these poor, dumb girls who post photos for your approval is for "their own good" is either retarded or severely deluded.LOL...now, now, no need to call those girls names for seeking the approval of the patriarchy. besides, if what your fellow strippers say is true. it's equally retarded as the fool's paradise you people have created upstairs. LOL...nice.

yoda57us
04-14-2008, 08:40 AM
Well... that's cute and all, but I don't think anyone would take Simon Cowell as seriously if he were just some dude who bought records sometimes.

Well, I don't disagree with you Jenny. My attempted analogy was to put Simon in the same category as those who "honestly" criticize on those painful blue threads and to put the supportive grandparents watching their grandchildren forget lyrics, abandon tempo and sing off key in the same category as those of us who look at the picture post thread and say nice things about girls with lopsided boob jobs and ugly pets...


I just point out that anyone claiming that the criticism set out in blue towards some of these poor, dumb girls who post photos for your approval is for "their own good" is either retarded or severely deluded.

Well, again, you would be preaching to the choir as far as my own personal beliefs. You hit the nail on the head though with your characterization of the posters. The poor dumb girls put themselves out there.
You have said it many times and I completely agree with you Jenny, SCJ/SW is not the club. I'm not here trying to buy a lap dance and the ladies certainly are not here trying to sell them. OTOH, when girls start submitting photographs for customer approval/criticism they are putting guys into a sort of "thumbs up/thumbs down" mode that is similar to what we do in the club when we are approached for a dance. The big difference is that we are all hiding behind the cloak of internet anonymity here and, as we all know, there a plenty of folks who will not demonstrate nearly as much common courtesy on line as they would face to face in a club.

I have made my share of comments on some of these "would you buy a dance from me" threads. Some positive, some negative, all honest and hopefully non that were perceived intentionally hurtful. Of course we all know that I'm just a hopeless dancer suck-up.

All Good Things
04-14-2008, 09:12 AM
My main problem with TOO is our disconnect on female fashion.



Shoes like that just have no place in TOO's world. But they are the standard issue in my own. Shame.

I'm sure this post was made in jest. Those are precisely the kinds of shoes bought for girls who requested them of me on Elfster and linked to them.

I enjoy buying fine Italian shoes and pretty much anything by Cavalli as gifts:



I don't want to revive the gifting drama, but just sayin'.

Lysondra
04-14-2008, 09:17 AM
We don't talk about Cavalli in public anymore honey.

Sh0t
04-14-2008, 09:27 AM
No jest at all.

Cavalli has better dresses than shoes.

It's all about D&G and Louboutin these days for my girls.

So far the TOO style game has been pretty weak IMO. Unless the girls are the ones picking them out, then THEY need to step it up. I haven't seen anything that came out of the TOO camp that was anything close to the shoes I'm bringing up. My swagger's on Mars right now.

Yoda: No cloak of anonymity here brother.

Lysondra
04-14-2008, 09:32 AM
http://www.shoeblog.com/blog/robert-cavalli-shoes-the-skull-trend-is-not-dead-yet/

TOO bought me the boots from this set.

Sh0t
04-14-2008, 09:59 AM
Yes.

And they are hideous. That's my point. The question is, who picked them out?

Eric Stoner
04-14-2008, 11:05 AM
Wouldn't most "SD's" be better off taking some of their "gift budget" and spending it on a good shrink ?

yoda57us
04-14-2008, 02:45 PM
Yoda: No cloak of anonymity here brother.

Lol, yeah, the camera loves you ShOt...

All Good Things
04-14-2008, 02:57 PM
And they are hideous. That's my point. The question is, who picked them out?

Sh0t, opinions are like....well, you know. Same applies to me, of course. :)

I think they are awesome. The girls posted so many shoegasms over them that it's amazing that thread didn't get deleted.

I posted a few of my footwear choices in a thread a couple of months ago. Let me see if I can dig it up.

Jenny
04-14-2008, 03:07 PM
I have favourite shoes. They were like $60 from winners. My next favourite shoes are sketchers.

You guys are high maintenance, man.

safado
04-14-2008, 03:10 PM
Wouldn't most "SD's" be better off taking some of their "gift budget" and spending it on a good shrink ?
They would be better off spending it on some good escorts, and I don't mean the mythical escorts who don't have to put out that the pinkies talk about.

Lunarobverse
04-14-2008, 03:25 PM
I wear my Chucks almost 24/7.

Unless I'm running. Then I wear my Brooks Adrenaline GTS 6s.

Oh, and I have some Docs I wear when I'm bein' dressy.

Lonelily
04-14-2008, 04:01 PM
Meh...I don't think Cavalli would really be your style, Lunar.

Although seeing you in those boots with skulls on them? I might be entertained by that.

youngBUTbanking
04-14-2008, 04:44 PM
^ I stay color coordinated. The best i can offer.

TheSexKitten
04-14-2008, 04:56 PM
in my 1/2 decade experience of the stripping industry (including waitressing, heh), the number of newbie strippers (on and off SW) wanting to strip for just 100 or 200 a night has gone way up, and the industry will draw a lot of chaff if that is 'good enough' money, which it increasingly is.

Amen. :yes: I may get flack for saying this, but if you are only making $100-$200 per night taking your clothes off and catering to strange men for money, you might as well find a different job. More girls being ok with a relative pittance (my boyfriend makes $150/night as a freaking pizza driver) only serves to flood the market, driving competition up in the worst ways.

I'd rather have 15 hot, competitive girls in my club than 30 mediocre girls to spread the money around thinly.

Sh0t
04-14-2008, 07:12 PM
Darcy, report in and visit the first post!

You casual sex card has been revoked

Go sit in the corner

MsQwerty
04-14-2008, 08:54 PM
Oh good taste!
Why the fuck is everyone talking about womens shoes on the blue site? I thought I liked ugly shoes but Sh0ts link takes the cake!


I wear my Chucks almost 24/7.

Unless I'm running. Then I wear my Brooks Adrenaline GTS 6s.

Oh, and I have some Docs I wear when I'm bein' dressy.