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Andygirl
04-28-2008, 10:15 AM
Lovely.

I never said I'm perfect, just sharing some information.

I wasn't saying that to be a bitch, it was a serious question. I honestly don't understand why devout people are so hypocritical at times. They pick and choose which parts of their religion they want to obey and forget the rest. It makes no sense.

Lysondra
04-28-2008, 10:21 AM
I wasn't saying that to be a bitch, it was a serious question. I honestly don't understand why devout people are so hypocritical at times. They pick and choose which parts of their religion they want to obey and forget the rest. It makes no sense.

When it comes to Judaism they really don't forget. You can't with all the Rabbis and Yentas in your ears! But Judaism preaches that you do what's best for you and deciding what to do is a major part of showing your faith. Many Rabbis will actually congratulate you on having inner religious turmoil because it's a challenge G-d gave you and hardens your soul during this 'test'.

Also, as far as I can tell, stripping isn't against Judaism. Touching men before marriage, a male Jew seeing you naked and working on Friday nights however... those are.

Sauske
04-28-2008, 10:30 AM
yup. I sure am. and If I qualified and felt like going through all the legal stuff I would get a Comfort Care order (DNR's) If im at the point where I need a machine to help me breathe- pull the effing plug, harvest me up and save some lives where they actually have a chance.

I don't need my organs if I am dead. it wasn't a hard decision to make really. I dont have religious beliefs that interfere.... :O

Sauske
04-28-2008, 10:33 AM
p.s. I am an EMT-B and we will try to save you no matter what. lol- even if you're dead I know some EMT's/medics who will practice CPR/Defib just for the hell of it. it's practice. some people have even been miraculously revived!

p.p.s., chances are if you're dying the EMT or Medic isn't going to take the time to look through your wallet and see if you have a hologram stating you're a donor. the only thing we LEGALLY care about are Comfort Care Orders that stipulate what kind of resuscitation we can or cannot use.

VegasPrincess
04-28-2008, 10:41 AM
As of right now I'm not. I've done so many hard drugs that I don't know what I'd have to give. I've been doing cocaine for the past 6 years so my heart isn't any good to anyone. I drink like a fish so there goes my liver and kidneys. I'm supposed to wear glasses but haven't for the past 5 years. So yea, my organs are worthless.

Hahahahaha!!!!! Mine 2.

southstbabe
04-28-2008, 10:56 AM
Yes I am, and it's just because I want to continue to help others.

Lola Rose
04-28-2008, 12:10 PM
I wasn't saying that to be a bitch, it was a serious question. I honestly don't understand why devout people are so hypocritical at times. They pick and choose which parts of their religion they want to obey and forget the rest. It makes no sense.

Well, the idea of judiasm is to always do more.... so you start doing one thing, then you add another, and another, and so on. I should be way better, b/c I was raised to be. but I've become so secular, it's very hard for me. I do try. I understand it may seem pretty hypocritical, but my intentions are good.


When it comes to Judaism they really don't forget. You can't with all the Rabbis and Yentas in your ears! But Judaism preaches that you do what's best for you and deciding what to do is a major part of showing your faith. Many Rabbis will actually congratulate you on having inner religious turmoil because it's a challenge G-d gave you and hardens your soul during this 'test'.
Also, as far as I can tell, stripping isn't against Judaism. Touching men before marriage, a male Jew seeing you naked and working on Friday nights however... those are.

Stripping Is definately against judiasm. Modesty is a huge facet of jediasm, it's tied into family purity, the sanctity of marriage, and living a holy life in general.

and YEP about the bolded part. I'm currently going through a lot of that.

Lola Rose
04-28-2008, 12:11 PM
sorry for the thread jack!!! so.. organ donation??

cinammonkisses
04-28-2008, 12:14 PM
I certainly am. I don't see any reason why I should be buried with perfectly good organs when they could be put to use saving other lives.



Exaclty. I plan to donate all healthy/donatable organs, tissues, or anything else that can be transplanted to help someone out.

Vyanka
04-28-2008, 12:23 PM
You know what fucking irks me... my mom's cousin is a major alcoholic. He threw up a big chunk of his liver and was on the waiting list to get his new liver. He had no luck getting it in NJ, so he got it in FL fine.

NOW with the new liver he is drinking again. You would think he'd get a second chance at life to start over, but no....:banghead: That liver could've gone to someone with an health issue that gives a fuck instead.

Lola Rose
04-28-2008, 12:28 PM
You know what fucking irks me... my mom's cousin is a major alcoholic. He threw up a big chunk of his liver and was on the waiting list to get his new liver. He had no luck getting it in NJ, so he got it in FL fine.

NOW with the new liver he is drinking again. You would think he'd get a second chance at life to start over, but no....:banghead: That liver could've gone to someone with an health issue that gives a fuck instead.

:(

that's really sad.

Jay Zeno
04-28-2008, 12:39 PM
Of course. It just makes sense.

AznExtasy
04-28-2008, 01:39 PM
It depends. I take good care of myself and my body means something to me. I wouldn't want to donate my organs if I knew the person getting it was.. say, someone I'd think is an asshole, or making lifestyle choices I don't agree with.

BrunetteGoddess
04-28-2008, 01:40 PM
Yes. In CA I had no trouble signing up. AZ for some reason couldn't figure it out ::)

Lysondra
04-28-2008, 08:25 PM
You know what fucking irks me... my mom's cousin is a major alcoholic. He threw up a big chunk of his liver and was on the waiting list to get his new liver. He had no luck getting it in NJ, so he got it in FL fine.

NOW with the new liver he is drinking again. You would think he'd get a second chance at life to start over, but no....:banghead: That liver could've gone to someone with an health issue that gives a fuck instead.

Grr... you're not even supposed to give a liver to a raging alcoholic...

Andygirl
04-28-2008, 08:48 PM
If I were to follow my religion down to the letter, I'd likely be homeless... especially here in the United States.

I don't think it's "following it to the letter" to obey the major tenets of your religion. If you don't agree with that, then don't claim it as your religion. Anything else is incredibly hypocritical. And it's why non-religious people roll their eyes at those who claim to be so devout.

But hey, being hypocritical doesn't stop the majority of religious people, so I guess my opinion is the minority.

Lysondra
04-28-2008, 08:51 PM
...:(

poolmaninSATX
04-28-2008, 08:56 PM
I found this interesting.

What Can Be Donated

Organs
The organs of the body that can be transplanted at the current time are kidneys, heart, lungs, liver, pancreas, and the intestines. Kidney/pancreas transplants, heart/lung transplants, and other combined organ transplants also are performed. Organs cannot be stored and must be used within hours of removing them from the donor's body. Most donated organs are from people who have died, but a living individual can donate a kidney, part of the pancreas, part of a lung, part of the liver, or part of the intestine.

Local organ procurement organizations (OPOs) around the country coordinate organ donation. OPOs evaluate potential donors, discuss donation with surviving family members, and arrange for the surgical removal and transport of donated organs. A national computer network, the OPTN (Organ Procurement and Transplantation Network) matches donated organs with recipients throughout the country.


Tissue
Corneas, the middle ear, skin, heart valves, bone, veins, cartilage, tendons, and ligaments can be stored in tissue banks and used to restore sight, cover burns, repair hearts, replace veins, and mend damaged connective tissue and cartilage in recipients.
Stem Cells

Healthy adults between the ages of 18-60 can donate blood stem cells. In order for a blood stem cell transplant to be successful, the patient and the blood stem cell donor must have a closely matched tissue type or human leukocyte antigen (HLA). Since tissue types are inherited, patients are more likely to find a matched donor within their own racial and ethnic group. There are three sources of blood stem cells that healthy volunteers can donate:

Marrow-This soft tissue is found in the interior cavities of bones and is a major site of blood cell production and is removed to obtain stem cells

Peripheral blood stem cells-The same types of stem cells found in marrow can be pushed out into a donor's bloodstream after the donor receives daily injections of a medication called filgrastim. This medication increases the number of stem cells circulating in the blood and provides a source of donor stem cells that can be collected in a way that is similar to blood donation.

Cord blood stem cells-The umbilical cord that connects a newborn to the mother during pregnancy contains blood and this blood has been shown to contain high levels of blood stem cells. Cord blood can be collected and stored in large freezers for a long period of time and therefore, offers another source of stem cells available for transplanting into patients.

Blood and Platelets
Blood and platelets are formed by the body, go through a life cycle, and are continuously replaced throughout life. This means that you can donate blood and platelets more than once. It is safe to donate blood every 56 days and platelets twice in one week up to 24 times a year.

Blood is stored in a blood bank according to type (A, B, AB, or O) and Rh factor (positive or negative). Blood can be used whole, or separated into packed red cells, plasma, and platelets, all of which have different lifesaving uses. It takes only about 10 minutes to collect a unit (one pint) of blood, although the testing and screening process means that you will be at the donation center close to an hour.

Platelets are tiny cell fragments that circulate throughout the blood and aid in blood clotting. Platelets can be donated without donating blood. When a specific patient needs platelets, but does not need blood, a matching donor is found and platelets are separated from the rest of the blood which is returned to the donor. The donor's body will replace the missing platelets within a few hours.
http://www.organdonor.gov/
I wonder how much each one of these individual procedures costs and what the profit is for the medical centers performing them versus the loss of revenue to keeping a non-donor alive. Are you worth more dead or alive? :-\

BalletBaby
04-28-2008, 09:27 PM
I'm not, but I want to be. Just need to put it in writing.

Lysondra
04-28-2008, 09:30 PM
Well, the idea of judiasm is to always do more.... so you start doing one thing, then you add another, and another, and so on. I should be way better, b/c I was raised to be. but I've become so secular, it's very hard for me. I do try. I understand it may seem pretty hypocritical, but my intentions are good.



Stripping Is definately against judiasm. Modesty is a huge facet of jediasm, it's tied into family purity, the sanctity of marriage, and living a holy life in general.

and YEP about the bolded part. I'm currently going through a lot of that.

Damn. I'm still learning. As I was studying I saw nothing about Jew women being naked in front of non Jew men. One of those hangups like it's not okay to be gay but it's okay to be lesbian if you read closely. I should read more.

MsQwerty
04-28-2008, 10:12 PM
Yep, totally cool with any part of my body being used. I personally believe that the body and soul / spirit have no real connection after death. Ive have enough experience with the supernatural to feel sure about that. IMO the body is just a waste object and if it can be recycled somehow then yay cos I shall probably be cremated anyway since bodies arent allowed to decompose naturally these days.

Im REALLY interested in the studies that people with donated body parts sometimes adopt part of the personality / characteristics of the person whos organs they have inside them. I think thats a really beautiful thing for the reletives left behind in cases where someone died suddenly and unexpectedly.

lola85
04-28-2008, 10:36 PM
Yes I am. My mother died of kidney failure (second time her kidneys failed), and they couldn't find a match for her. I'll be damned if I'm gonna be the reason someone else has to go through that.

Same here, so sad. I signed up right when I turned 16! when your dead your dead!

Bellona
04-28-2008, 11:05 PM
Yes I am,,have been since I got my drivers license when i was 22.:)

Madcap
04-28-2008, 11:13 PM
Yes, but i plan on living forever. :)

Lysondra
04-28-2008, 11:45 PM
Yes, but i plan on living forever. :)

I see it's working well so far.

hardkandee
04-28-2008, 11:49 PM
No. I'm not.

Perry
04-29-2008, 06:55 AM
Yes I am. My cousin died at age 23 from a bad heart. She had been on the list for a new one since she was a child, there just were no hearts for a young, other wise healthy woman. It would have saved her life.

And as we all know, you can't take them with you...

Joplin
04-29-2008, 07:43 AM
I am. Not on my DL but my family knows.

I'm going to be cremated as well, so it seems selfish and irrational to me to hoard my organs to merely burn them up and sprinkle on the ground. Saving someone who has a chance to live is much more important to me.

MoetATL07
04-30-2008, 04:37 PM
Im one whats the point of trying to take it with you.

Jayne Doe
05-11-2008, 07:37 PM
HELLS to tha NO. Ive heard bad things about being organ donors and if theyre not true than whatever. My family knows my wishes - I dont need a sticker on my license so they can not try as hard to save me because my organs will save 1/2 a dozen others. When Im 100% dead then they can hook me to support, save my organs and give em away but no stickers gonna tell them that.


You have a valid point...I used to work in the organ procurement field and I can tell you that the little yes/no question on your licence is no more than a guideline (depending on the state laws of course) Your best bet is to make 100% sure that you're next of kin is aware of how you stand on the issue.

Jayne Doe
05-11-2008, 07:42 PM
I have heard that paramedics and such will not try as hard to revive you if your license says you are an organ donor.


Not true...it really is the other way around. Organs to be used for transplant can only be procurred from a donor on life support, so even if a person may be brain dead, it is still benificial to revive the body so the organs can be put to good use...Incidentally, watching organs as they are harvested from a body on life support is just the Shizzzznit!

Jayne Doe
05-11-2008, 07:46 PM
I didn't stop with organ donation, I'm a whole body donor! My body goes to science after I die in hopes of helping to find future cures for disease. It is best to sign up when you are young, so that scientists can look at environmental factors that may have contributed to fatal disease.

...Which university are you planning to donate your body to?

lestat1
05-11-2008, 08:02 PM
No. I'm already down one organ, and it's a creepy feeling to be less than whole. I know I'll be dead and it won't matter, but I just what to keep what I've still got.

NekkoStarz
05-11-2008, 09:21 PM
I don't think it's not a silly superstition or BS about them not trying to save you for your organs... My mom's old best friend use to work the ER & told her that they really don't try as hard to save donors. They get a lot of money for the organs/body. ~> That's why my mom always told me to just tell her if that's what I want instead of just applying it to my license.

Lola Rose
05-12-2008, 04:55 AM
I had a conversation about this stuffs with rob, just so he needs to know, G-d forbid.

Sirona
05-12-2008, 07:26 AM
I don't think it's not a silly superstition or BS about them not trying to save you for your organs... My mom's old best friend use to work the ER & told her that they really don't try as hard to save donors. They get a lot of money for the organs/body. ~> That's why my mom always told me to just tell her if that's what I want instead of just applying it to my license.

My sister in law works in the emergency room at St Vincent's and I can say
once again that it's total bull.

Incidentally, they have to keep you alive to be able to donate the organs. Once body death occurs the organs start to deteriorate.
Organs are harvested AFTER BRAIN DEATH has occured.

See where i'm going with this?

If an EMT or ER nurse or doctor just said, aw, theyre an organ donor, don't bother working on them, the patient would die rendering the organs useless.

Proper removel, storage and shipment of organs can only take place within a limited wondow; people who are pronounced brain dead and on ventilators make the best candiddates, hence why organ donors are generally people who have suffered catastrophic brain injuries (from a stroke, severe head injury etc).