View Full Version : Porn - to do it or not to do it?
CKXXX
05-19-2008, 11:18 AM
I didn't realize the cum shots and penetration were fake - often? usually? (I really don't watch much porn).
Sorry for the threadjack.
well...maybe not often..but I have used fake "cum" in quite a few of my films for various reasons...esp for still shots...you want the guy to save himself for the video money shot...so still shot "money shots" are almost always faked.
I have also done a cpl films where the penetration was faked...we would get 30 seconds or so because the guy couldnt keep it up for whatever reason(steroids, nerves, etc..) and the rest would be faked while those 30 seconds would be looped to make it look like there was a lot more.
Porn films arent as straight forward as many people think nowadays...they are films. Maybe not Shakespeare(lol) but there are actors and directors and editing and faking.
CKXXX
05-19-2008, 11:19 AM
O.k., thanks, that makes sense - and the licensing and paperwork makes a record of the money, which would please the IRS.
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It also ensures that nobody involved is underage...which is the governments main concern usually! 2257 is referred to sometimes as the "Tracy Lords Law".
jellob1976
05-19-2008, 01:55 PM
Just to comment and clarify on something upthread, most porn is not protected by the first amendment. That doesn't make it illegal, but it doesn't have the same first amendment protections as political speech (for example). That's one of the reasons porn can be so heavily regulated (including the 2257 regs).
CKXXX
05-19-2008, 02:25 PM
Just to comment and clarify on something upthread, most porn is not protected by the first amendment. That doesn't make it illegal, but it doesn't have the same first amendment protections as political speech (for example). That's one of the reasons porn can be so heavily regulated (including the 2257 regs).
It is actually...
"Under Miller v. California, as long as a work, taken as a whole, has "serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value," the First Amendment protects its distribution. Given this legal principle, how could pornography be criminal, in the way that prostitution is?The process of filming and distributing pornography is considered protected speech, under the Supreme Court's First Amendment precedents"
There are a TON of court cases that have set precedent about this.
Electrum
05-19-2008, 07:26 PM
There are t-shirts with me on them? For real? Damn...I'm the last to know anything. I don't even have a shirt with myself on it. I want one!
/threadjack over
Errr I'm thinking Ginger Lyn? Or are you the same person lol? You look a lot like her if not.
jellob1976
05-20-2008, 02:20 PM
It's not that simple. First, the Miller test you cited is the test to determine obscene speech. The first amendment does not protect obscene speech. Some porn is "obscene," some of it isn't. The obscene stuff is not protected by the first amendment.
But that's not the end of the story. Just because something is obscene doesn't make it illegal. It simply means that the government can regulate it without regard as to whether the regulations violate the constitution.
For example, tomorrow the government could decide to lift all pornography restrictions (including 2257) and state that porn producers are free to do whatever they want. This decision would have nothing to do with the first amendment, it would simply be a political decision.
Also, the fucked up thing about that miller decision is its a community by community standard. So what's kosher in san francisco might be obscene in bumblefuck idaho (although the occupants of bumblefuck tend to be some of the largest consumers of porn).
Anyway, I'm not sure why I'm rambling on about this. I'll get back to work now.
CKXXX
05-20-2008, 05:02 PM
The DISTRIBUTION is protected under the first amendment...the actual acts could..if politicos wanted to bust balls..be cited individually. But whether or not the people INVOLVED were determined to be doing anything illegal..the distribution of the film is still protected under the first amendment.