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JayATee
06-27-2009, 02:23 AM
Ok, its comments like this where I again have to express a surprise at your naivete.

While you and I would almost certainly agree it shouldn't be the case you have to acknowledge that stripping has a social stigmata, particularly in certain social circles.

Say you were a partner in a law firm of high prestige that dealt with many clients that were "old money". You are in your mid-forties, legitimately single, and it is found that you are dating a stripper in her early 30's.

Now the fact that you are dating someone 12 years or so your junior might get a blink but "trophy" girl-friends and wives are not unheard of in that circle so dating much younger women is not a problem. However the knowledge that you were dating a stripper would raise many eyebrows and cause concern regarding your judgment.

That is simply the way things work in that particular environment. Again, we'd probably agree that it shouldn't be the case, but we'd be foolish not to admit its existence.

You missed the point entirely and I really don't care enough to reiterate it. Did you even bother to read the exchange? Im really sick of being called naive. Im not. And theres nothing wrong with anything I said.

Golden_Rule
06-27-2009, 03:53 AM
You missed the point entirely and I really don't care enough to reiterate it. Did you even bother to read the exchange? Im really sick of being called naive. Im not. And theres nothing wrong with anything I said.

Hasn't your point been, straight along, that it makes no difference in this day and age? If that wasn't your point I want to know what I missed,

And if something is provable, and you ignore it - not because you are ignorant or arrogant but because its outside your experience - isn't that a result of being naive?

All I am saying is that it appears to me, based solely on what you write here, that there are a lot of things that can happen to you that haven't happened to you yet. Candidly, for the most part, that is probably a good thing as much of what you can learn from such experiences, besides that such things exist, is how to deal with sadness and regret - as well as other people's intolerance, etc.

xdamage
06-27-2009, 03:56 AM
Et tu, Brute? :)

Waging tongues can do a lot of damage, on every social level. You want to start tongues waging; date a stripper, bring her into your social group and let the non-stripping women start flapping their gums when they find out. All of a sudden the men folk in your social circle aren't allowed to play with you any more because their wives and girl-friends don't want them hanging out with the guy whose dating a stripper.

Hehe... Well I was involved in a bit of scandalous beliefs at work a couple of years ago involving a younger woman who is very non-traditional, and of course people do talk, spin rumor, and generally enjoy the drama. Did it hurt my social standing with them? Yes, probably but being the introvert who avoided socializing with them anyway, I honestly didn't care.

Still yea you make a valid point. Also it is not just the guys who ostracize, but also their female spouses, so if socializing with work people is important to you, I understand the concern you've explained.

It has been said on SW thousands of times in various threads, that it is because of the social stigma that stripping is lucrative. If the day comes that it has no more social stigma then say the ubiquitous waiter/waitressing job, it is hard not to imagine the pie being split so thin that the job barely pays anymore then a starter 9-5, if that.

But I think the dynamics of what is going on here is more like this (here is an example that may hit home with you)...

Imagine being on a board for LE support. Now as you know well, not everyone in our society likes LE. So your hanging out on your LE support board, having various forum talks etc., and it comes up that someone on the board has a quandry. The quandry basically revolves around that on the one hand they like being able to call on LE when they have a need for their services. OTOH they think people in LE are all controlling pigs and wouldn't date/be-seen with someone in the business on a personal level.

How well would that go over? I'm guessing not well at all. That it would raise the ire of a lot of members on the board who are LE, who are using it for support, and they'd jump all over that with WTF? Why are you on OUR support board then? And they'd have a valid point. Like, it is inappropriate because the board is not meant for the amusement of the general public, though guests are welcome.

Anyway, hopefully that analogy helps to open a new POV and maybe explains the general ire that is raised by customers hanging out here who have a quandry. It is truthful, but arguably there are other forums out there where their quandry would fall on more sympathetic ears.

Cyril
06-27-2009, 06:04 AM
Hehe... Well I was involved in a bit of scandalous beliefs at work a couple of years ago involving a younger woman who is very non-traditional, and of course people do talk, spin rumor, and generally enjoy the drama. Did it hurt my social standing with them? Yes, probably but being the introvert who avoided socializing with them anyway, I honestly didn't care.

Still yea you make a valid point. Also it is not just the guys who ostracize, but also their female spouses, so if socializing with work people is important to you, I understand the concern you've explained.

It has been said on SW thousands of times in various threads, that it is because of the social stigma that stripping is lucrative. If the day comes that it has no more social stigma then say the ubiquitous waiter/waitressing job, it is hard not to imagine the pie being split so thin that the job barely pays anymore then a starter 9-5, if that.

But I think the dynamics of what is going on here is more like this (here is an example that may hit home with you)...

Imagine being on a board for LE support. Now as you know well, not everyone in our society likes LE. So your hanging out on your LE support board, having various forum talks etc., and it comes up that someone on the board has a quandry. The quandry basically revolves around that on the one hand they like being able to call on LE when they have a need for their services. OTOH they think people in LE are all controlling pigs and wouldn't date/be-seen with someone in the business on a personal level.

How well would that go over? I'm guessing not well at all. That it would raise the ire of a lot of members on the board who are LE, who are using it for support, and they'd jump all over that with WTF? Why are you on OUR support board then? And they'd have a valid point. Like, it is inappropriate because the board is not meant for the amusement of the general public, though guests are welcome.

Anyway, hopefully that analogy helps to open a new POV and maybe explains the general ire that is raised by customers hanging out here who have a quandry. It is truthful, but arguably there are other forums out there where their quandry would fall on more sympathetic ears.

I am absolutely against saying hurtful things to strippers or anybody. The topic of this thread is a question to all the male readership of this bulletin board. And, I answered that question.

I have to admit that being on this forum had been a learning exercise.

Cyril
06-27-2009, 06:21 AM
And if something is provable, and you ignore it - not because you are ignorant or arrogant but because its outside your experience - isn't that a result of being naive?



She has not seen the human bigotry in its worst form yet. She is an idealist. She wants everything to be right. But the reality is everything is not right and that frustrates her.

If these bigots do not approve of your personal life, your professional accomplishments will mean nothing to them. If they want to paint a negative image of you, they will. They are very good at it.

When I was young like JayATee, I used to think that if I am right (meaning telling the truth), I will automatically be supported by others in the meeting and in my other efforts. But I quickly learned that people will not support you (or your viewpoint) unless it furthers their interest. This was my first practical lesson in life.

princessjas
06-27-2009, 07:21 AM
I am absolutely against saying hurtful things to strippers or anybody. The topic of this thread is a question to all the male readership of this bulletin board. And, I answered that question.

I have to admit that being on this forum had been a learning exercise.

You say you are against saying hurtful things to strippers and in your recent posts you deny being ashamed of dating/being seen with a stripper. However, you DID previously post that you were ashamed to be associated or seen in public with a dancer. Even after we pointed out that our profession isn't exactly immediately obvious and that we tend to be intelligent enough not to announce we are dancers to those that may not be accepting, you STILL maintained that you wanted a clandestine relationship.

I'm tired of this argument because you are contradicting your earlier statements and refuse to own your previous insulting opinions and views. If you want to be "friends" with the dancers here a sincere apology will work better than pages and pages of backtracking, excuses and clarification of previous statements. ::)

Cyril
06-27-2009, 09:39 AM
You say you are against saying hurtful things to strippers and in your recent posts you deny being ashamed of dating/being seen with a stripper. However, you DID previously post that you were ashamed to be associated or seen in public with a dancer. Even after we pointed out that our profession isn't exactly immediately obvious and that we tend to be intelligent enough not to announce we are dancers to those that may not be accepting, you STILL maintained that you wanted a clandestine relationship.

I'm tired of this argument because you are contradicting your earlier statements and refuse to own your previous insulting opinions and views. If you want to be "friends" with the dancers here a sincere apology will work better than pages and pages of backtracking, excuses and clarification of previous statements. ::)

I do not think I said I am ashamed of dating a dancer. If I did, I was wrong and I apologize to you and all the dancers for saying that. All I was trying to say was that I would like to keep it discreet.

Yes, I definitely would like to be friends with you dancers.

I do not want to be seen as a bad person. So, this will be my last post on this thread as well.

vmurphy252
06-27-2009, 11:41 AM
^I still want to know what his first language is. He can communicate effectively in English, but I have never met a native English speaker that puts sentences and phrasing together like he does.

Elvia
06-27-2009, 12:41 PM
Ok...I'm going to try to make this reeeaaallly simple, Cyril.

If you're life is such that you really JUST CAN'T have anyone finding out about your relationship...then that is not the relationship for you. It is not appropriate to begin dating someone, only to then ask them to keep it secret because you just couldn't possibly bear it if other people in your life found out. That's hurtful, and can really do a number on a person's sense of self worth. If you can't stand the stigma of socializing with strippers, then limit your interaction with strippers to when you are in the club.

Earl_the_Pearl
06-27-2009, 12:53 PM
If by dating a dancer one is cast out of his social circle that is not a problem. Join her social circle. They are much more fun especially after a few drinks. :cheers:

Almost Jaded
06-28-2009, 12:41 AM
Damnit. Early made a post that made me LOL and I kind of liked. :mad:

Golden_Rule
06-28-2009, 01:40 AM
Imagine being on a board for LE support. Now as you know well, not everyone in our society likes LE. So your hanging out on your LE support board, having various forum talks etc., and it comes up that someone on the board has a quandry. The quandry basically revolves around that on the one hand they like being able to call on LE when they have a need for their services. OTOH they think people in LE are all controlling pigs and wouldn't date/be-seen with someone in the business on a personal level.

How well would that go over? I'm guessing not well at all. That it would raise the ire of a lot of members on the board who are LE, who are using it for support, and they'd jump all over that with WTF? Why are you on OUR support board then? And they'd have a valid point. Like, it is inappropriate because the board is not meant for the amusement of the general public, though guests are welcome.

Anyway, hopefully that analogy helps to open a new POV and maybe explains the general ire that is raised by customers hanging out here who have a quandry. It is truthful, but arguably there are other forums out there where their quandry would fall on more sympathetic ears.

You see that couldn't happen on the LE support boards I belong to because they are actually support boards and that means the only people on them are people in law enforcement and the people who provide support to them, like mental health specialists who deal with PTSS, alcohol and drug abuse, marriage problems, etc. You have to actually have your employment by a law enforcement agency, or qualification to be a support provider, verified to get on the few such sites that I belong to.

Another program I am involved with, "Cop-2-Cop", where officers lend support to other officers in time of personal need doesn't have people involved in any way other than police and other law enforcement officers. That is the way it is because doing it differently than that isn't how industry self-help is done. S-W is not an exception to that rule.

As I have explained in the past, Pryce may have wanted a support board for dancers, but the way it was fashioned that isn't what it is and it can't be, so I don't know why the dancers get mad about it. If they do get mad about it they should point it where the issue lay: in the fact that no REAL support board allows clients of the folks being supported to be members of the board in the areas where support is being given.

So you either have an "interaction board" whose main thrust ought to be better understanding between - in the case of S-W - customers and dancers, or you have a real support board where ONLY dancers would be present.

That's just common sense.

JayATee
06-28-2009, 01:53 AM
She has not seen the human bigotry in its worst form yet.



Bull shit. You have no idea what I've seen or what I've been through so STFU.



I do not think I said I am ashamed of dating a dancer. If I did, I was wrong and I apologize to you and all the dancers for saying that. All I was trying to say was that I would like to keep it discreet.

Yes, I definitely would like to be friends with you dancers.

I do not want to be seen as a bad person. So, this will be my last post on this thread as well.

If you're not ashamed of it, why keep it discreet? You have said you'd be ashamed of it, so obviously, you either have no idea what you're saying, or you simply want to backtrack. Either way, it's ridiculous.

mediocrity
06-28-2009, 02:41 AM
I am extremely fond of chefs. I would like for my chef to cook for me, but I do not think I would like my chef to cook for anyone else. However, dating a chef would not be good for my social standing so the only acceptable solution would be a one night stand. Then my chef and I could part ways before we created a bond.

I often see people in restaurants wearing aprons. I assume they are chefs? I do not wish to say anything bad about chefs. I would like to be the chefs' friend. I must say, watching Food Network has been a learning experience.

xdamage
06-28-2009, 05:37 AM
You see that couldn't happen on the LE support boards I belong to because they are actually support boards and that means the only people on them are people in law enforcement and the people who provide support to them, like mental health specialists who deal with PTSS, alcohol and drug abuse, marriage problems, etc. You have to actually have your employment by a law enforcement agency, or qualification to be a support provider, verified to get on the few such sites that I belong to.

Another program I am involved with, "Cop-2-Cop", where officers lend support to other officers in time of personal need doesn't have people involved in any way other than police and other law enforcement officers. That is the way it is because doing it differently than that isn't how industry self-help is done. S-W is not an exception to that rule.

As I have explained in the past, Pryce may have wanted a support board for dancers, but the way it was fashioned that isn't what it is and it can't be, so I don't know why the dancers get mad about it. If they do get mad about it they should point it where the issue lay: in the fact that no REAL support board allows clients of the folks being supported to be members of the board in the areas where support is being given.

So you either have an "interaction board" whose main thrust ought to be better understanding between - in the case of S-W - customers and dancers, or you have a real support board where ONLY dancers would be present.

That's just common sense.

Right, well I ... yea, I can't disagree with this ;)

But hey it really does suck when people need your service (i.e., calling 911, or the police when it benefits them), but then at the same time loathe or are ashamed of the people who do the job (sad reality is it happens, a lot, even on this board, there has been a lot of anti-cop sentiments yet of course the same people NEED and WANT cops when it benefits thems).

The same applies to various other lines of legit (i.e., legal) work (including the military where someone doing their duty can be both appreciated and boo'ed).

I can't disagree with the idea of closing the support areas off (it has been suggested many times), because you can't force the entire world to think a certain way. I'm not sure the "interaction board" thing can ever work without tensions. Hey, but maybe that is a good thing too in a strange way? A chance for those in the business to blow off some steam. To say things they can't say while on the job.

princessjas
06-28-2009, 07:40 AM
You see that couldn't happen on the LE support boards I belong to because they are actually support boards and that means the only people on them are people in law enforcement and the people who provide support to them, like mental health specialists who deal with PTSS, alcohol and drug abuse, marriage problems, etc. You have to actually have your employment by a law enforcement agency, or qualification to be a support provider, verified to get on the few such sites that I belong to.
Just because it can't happen on your LE boards doesn't give you the right to pretend not to understand the point, or basically say "It's the boards fault. If you didn't LET me misbehave, I wouldn't." ::)


As I have explained in the past, Pryce may have wanted a support board for dancers, but the way it was fashioned that isn't what it is and it can't be, so I don't know why the dancers get mad about it. If they do get mad about it they should point it where the issue lay: in the fact that no REAL support board allows clients of the folks being supported to be members of the board in the areas where support is being given.

So you either have an "interaction board" whose main thrust ought to be better understanding between - in the case of S-W - customers and dancers, or you have a real support board where ONLY dancers would be present.

That's just common sense.

Once again you are absolving yourself (& other men) of any responsibility for your actions and pointing the finger at others. It's similar to a small child blaming a responsible adult for allowing him to get into trouble. Completely ridiculous! If all the men on this board were respectful and offered true support, as some have proven is possible, then there would be no need for locked sections of the board. Just because you are allowed to be rude doesn't mean you have to. :O

mediocrity
06-28-2009, 09:59 AM
oh GR, seriously? Give it up.

absolutbliss
06-28-2009, 10:47 AM
I was at the border, prepared to get the usual barage of questions before getting let into canada. So the border guy goes, "where are you coming from." I said, "work." He said, "what do you do?" And I said, "I'm a stripper."

The look on his face was priceless. He just blankly said, "uh, wow. ok. Go ahead."

hockeybobby
06-28-2009, 11:05 AM
I was at the border, prepared to get the usual barage of questions before getting let into canada. So the border guy goes, "where are you coming from." I said, "work." He said, "what do you do?" And I said, "I'm a stripper."

The look on his face was priceless. He just blankly said, "uh, wow. ok. Go ahead."

We stand on guard for thee. :D

Earl_the_Pearl
06-28-2009, 11:41 AM
Once again you are absolving yourself (& other men) of any responsibility for your actions and pointing the finger at others.
Absolved from what; speaking frankly? It is very easy for dancers on this board to avoid all contact with PLs by only reading the women only topics.

I have learned allot from this board and do try to phrase my comments to be less confrontational as I now realize the impact they have on some. It would be very easy to restrict PLs to Blue only but then this board will lose something unique in this subject area.

princessjas
06-28-2009, 12:11 PM
Absolved from what; speaking frankly? It is very easy for dancers on this board to avoid all contact with PLs by only reading the women only topics.

I have learned allot from this board and do try to phrase my comments to be less confrontational as I now realize the impact they have on some. It would be very easy to restrict PLs to Blue only but then this board will lose something unique in this subject area.

No, from being inflammatory and disdainful towards dancers. Non industry guys are basically GUESTS on this forum, and should therefore be polite. You may call it speaking frankly but there is a way to go about speaking truthfully without being incredibly offensive. (This isn't directed towards any singular male poster, but more to a large group that have decided to disparage dancers at any available opportunity, like they are attempting to amass "cool" points, high fiving in the locker room, or something equally juvenile.)

JayATee
06-28-2009, 12:15 PM
I was at the border, prepared to get the usual barage of questions before getting let into canada. So the border guy goes, "where are you coming from." I said, "work." He said, "what do you do?" And I said, "I'm a stripper."

The look on his face was priceless. He just blankly said, "uh, wow. ok. Go ahead."

LoL. This is the best. ;D

dreamer1980
06-28-2009, 03:26 PM
If by dating a dancer one is cast out of his social circle that is not a problem. Join her social circle. They are much more fun especially after a few drinks. :cheers:


Damnit. Early made a post that made me LOL and I kind of liked. :mad:

;D, Early's quips remind me of Oscar Wilde:

"A true friend stabs you in the front."

bem401
06-29-2009, 06:05 AM
They could have said that in the beginning and I would have ended my involvement in this thread long time ago.

How am I supposed to know that strippers do not like anything (good or bad ) said about them? The bad part I can understand. But the point is I have not said anything bad about them.

If such is the case, why is your signature (as seen in another thread) now "I Love Strippers"? This shows you still don't get it. While I will concede you are not attacking them with this siggy, it is a left-handed compliment at best. The gist of my prior comment was you should not lump them together and make generalizations (even inocuous and patronizing ones) like you do in your signature.

IRL, there are people I enjoy spending time with, people I tolerate, and people I avoid. No different in the strip club. The reason I have dancers among my RL friends is precisely because I do not do what you have done, which is to single them out as strippers before interacting with them. On rare occasions where I might have allowed the line between who they are and what they do to be blurred, I have paid the price.

SteveSmith
06-29-2009, 08:51 AM
Absolved from what; speaking frankly? It is very easy for dancers on this board to avoid all contact with PLs by only reading the women only topics.

I have learned allot from this board and do try to phrase my comments to be less confrontational as I now realize the impact they have on some. It would be very easy to restrict PLs to Blue only but then this board will lose something unique in this subject area.

Earl_the_Pearl, calling yourself a PL is like calling yourself a fuckin' scumbag. Is being called a PL some kind of weird humiliation fetish that you and some members on this forum enjoy that I don't know about? Just curious. /:O

verfolgung
06-29-2009, 09:26 AM
That was uncharacteristically rude and obnoxious of you. [What, you having a bad when you posted this?]

May I also suggest a reading comprehension course as there was nothing in that post that suggesting I was making point/counter-point with myself.
::)

LOL - Reading comprehension? Perhaps you should sign up for the course as well.

Pssst, you're post was merely pasted to show another member that that the argument had already been made. My comments were not directed at you. ;)

Golden_Rule
06-29-2009, 08:24 PM
Just because it can't happen on your LE boards doesn't give you the right to pretend not to understand the point, or basically say "It's the boards fault. If you didn't LET me misbehave, I wouldn't." ::)

No, you see that would be your mistake, and any person who held a similar view point, for thinking that anyone having an idea and expressing it POLITELY is MISBEHAVING simply because said idea disagrees with your view on the same subject.

People don't like being told, "Shut up! Your opinion doesn't count around here."

It is INCREDIBLY BAD FORM to say that to others in an OPEN forum and S-W is an OPEN forum. That is simply what it is. The customers presence here is absolute proof of that. If it was a CLOSED forum we wouldn't be here.

Don't misunderstand my tone or take what I am saying as rebuke. I am simply suggesting you have looked at a cat and called it a dog.



Once again you are absolving yourself (& other men) of any responsibility for your actions and pointing the finger at others.

No. Once again a female dancer has told a male customer that his opinion on something doesn't count simply because he is male and a customer.

In most other places this is called bigotry.

Lets not argue about it though. Its an old and tired subject that has been beaten to death.

Golden_Rule
06-29-2009, 08:26 PM
oh GR, seriously? Give it up.

You know... If you don't like common sense don't read my posts. :)


Come on now.... I was making a funny. :) }:D

Golden_Rule
06-29-2009, 08:29 PM
LOL - Reading comprehension? Perhaps you should sign up for the course as well.

Pssst, you're post was merely pasted to show another member that that the argument had already been made. My comments were not directed at you. ;)


Hmmm. A re-read by yourself as a third party seeing your post might show you why I could take it to mean otherwise but...

If I was wrong I sincerely apologize [I never have a problem admitting if I am wrong].

princessjas
06-29-2009, 08:36 PM
No, you see that would be your mistake, and an person who held a similar view point, for thinking that anyone having an idea and expressing it POLITELY is MISBEHAVING simply because said idea disagrees with your view on the same subject.

People don't like being told, "Shut up! Your opinion doesn't count around here."

It is INCREDIBLY BAD FORM to say that to others in an OPEN forum and S-W is an OPEN forum. That is simply what it is. The customers presence here is absolute proof of that. If it was a CLOSED forum we wouldn't be here.

Don't misunderstand my tone or take what I am saying as rebuke. I am simply suggesting you have looked at a cat and called it a dog.




No. Once again a female dancer has told a male customer that his opinion on something doesn't count simply because he is male and a customer.

In most other places this is called discrimination.

Lets not argue about it though. Its an old and tired subject that has been beaten to death.

I am NOT making a mistake!! I am pointing out that if you had any manners at all, you wouldn't be so rude in expressing an opinion that is offensive and even hurtfull at times to dancers, on this open forum that was created for dancers.

I have not told you your opinion doesn't count. I'm sure there are many places where it would be welcomed. They probably have TONS of forums where guys can brag and high five each other over milage and "scoring ass" from strippers and those places would welcome many of your opinions and happily listen to you chid dancers for "scamming". I just think you need to consider the place and your audience before deciding if it is polite to express certain opinions and views. After all even if your LE board WAS open, I would have enough manners not to go there and express my negative and possibly offensive views of your profession. Maybe my southern upbringing has just trained me to be more polite. ;)

verfolgung
06-30-2009, 12:07 PM
... It is INCREDIBLY BAD FORM to say that to others in an OPEN forum and S-W is an OPEN forum. That is simply what it is. The customers presence here is absolute proof of that. If it was a CLOSED forum we wouldn't be here. ...

On this point, I beg to differ. The presence of an active group of moderators along with routine post edits, suspensions and even banning shows that this is not a completely open forum.



Under the Forum Rules (second link from the left, next to My Settings)
http://forum.stripperweb.com/misc.php?do=cfrules


The first rule:

1) We Are STRIPPERWeb
This site exists primarily for female exotic dancers. ...



On the Site Tour under the heading "What is Stripperweb"
http://www.stripperweb.com/?page=tour_what


"Welcome to something different! Think of us as a bar for strippers - after a long day at work (minus the bad music). Dancers can network, learn new techniques, share problems, etc. We do allow customers and other non-dancers to use the site as their input can be useful - but we ask them to be respectful and remember this site exists primarly for exotic dancers."

Almost Jaded
06-30-2009, 12:31 PM
Eh - I gotta side with GR on this one.

First - I don't see him of all people "high fiving" anyone for "scoring some stripper ass". His posts are typically in good taste, well thought through, and temperate - not to mention generally respectful of dancers.

Second - While the rules quotes above are valid insofar as they are in fact direct quotes from the "rules", it should be noted that there ARE areas of teh board that are limited to dancers only, and that a dancer taking offense to something in the open areas - especially when said offense is taken at something that only a few consider offensive and from a member who generally contributes in a positive way - is silly. FURTHERMORE - this is specifically the "Customer Conversation" area - the LAST place a dancer should find offense at a customers comments, open boards or not! One could make a point that the Junkie boards are there for a reason -but many of us don't ike those boards BECAUSE of the "high fibing stripper-ass scoring" types, lol.

Third - maybe I'm denser than I thought, but I don't see where he made offensive comments in the first place. Thins that could be disagreed with, sure - but not offensive (and I'm the one accused of thinking like - and more thaan once of BEING - a stripper posing as a custie, lol).

princessjas
06-30-2009, 12:32 PM
On this point, I beg to differ. The presence of an active group of moderators along with routine post edits, suspensions and even banning shows that this is not a completely open forum.



Under the Forum Rules (second link from the left, next to My Settings)
http://forum.stripperweb.com/misc.php?do=cfrules


The first rule:

1) We Are STRIPPERWeb
This site exists primarily for female exotic dancers. ...



On the Site Tour under the heading "What is Stripperweb"
http://www.stripperweb.com/?page=tour_what


"Welcome to something different! Think of us as a bar for strippers - after a long day at work (minus the bad music). Dancers can network, learn new techniques, share problems, etc. We do allow customers and other non-dancers to use the site as their input can be useful - but we ask them to be respectful and remember this site exists primarly for exotic dancers."


Thank you so much for this post! ;D I wasn't smart enough to pull this stuff up to support my statement that the site was FOR US!!

Almost Jaded
06-30-2009, 12:32 PM
PS - I'm now joining the "This Thread Is Officially Dead" camp.

Earl_the_Pearl
06-30-2009, 06:56 PM
Earl_the_Pearl, calling yourself a PL is like calling yourself a fuckin' scumbag. Is being called a PL some kind of weird humiliation fetish that you and some members on this forum enjoy that I don't know about? Just curious. /:O
That is what dancers think of all customers. If a PL thinks otherwise he truly is a PL.

Cyril
06-30-2009, 08:29 PM
That is what dancers think of all customers. If a PL thinks otherwise he truly is a PL.

This why I like Earl. :)

Very succinct! :D

(Added later: Ooops! I just realized that I wanted to stay away from this thread.)

Golden_Rule
06-30-2009, 08:37 PM
I am NOT making a mistake!! I am pointing out that if you had any manners at all, you wouldn't be so rude in expressing an opinion that is offensive and even hurtfull at times to dancers, on this open forum that was created for dancers.

I don't express things to be rude or to offend anyone. I do speak what I BELIEVE to be truths, or else I label them as opinion. I do that because truths are important. Since the world is as it is and truths are things we must all deal with makes dealing in truths important.

Would you prefer, if a subject came up that I commented on, for me to lie to you? Tell you want I think you would prefer to hear?

There are enough men on this site that will do that for you, you know.

I don't speak truths to people I don't respect. In such cases I don't speak to them at all. I treat the women on this site with the respect of being as upfront and as honest with them as I know how to be. I speak to them as I would want to be spoken to myself and don't run a line on them.

Its the BLTs who do such things and quite frankly it is they you ought to be offended by, as they don't treat you as equals but obligingly never call any dancer on the board on anything, even if they fervently disagree with them, simply because... well because they're 'dick thinkers' who have some strange idea that flattering the women on this site is somehow going to get them laid.

Its funny stuff when you stop to think about it.

To me folks are folks, and the fact that you have female parts isn't going to cause me to lose my mind and speak to you differently that I'd talk to anyone else I was having these kinds of conversations with.

Golden_Rule
06-30-2009, 08:40 PM
On this point, I beg to differ. The presence of an active group of moderators along with routine post edits, suspensions and even banning shows that this is not a completely open forum.



Under the Forum Rules (second link from the left, next to My Settings)
http://forum.stripperweb.com/misc.php?do=cfrules


The first rule:

1) We Are STRIPPERWeb
This site exists primarily for female exotic dancers. ...



On the Site Tour under the heading "What is Stripperweb"
http://www.stripperweb.com/?page=tour_what


"Welcome to something different! Think of us as a bar for strippers - after a long day at work (minus the bad music). Dancers can network, learn new techniques, share problems, etc. We do allow customers and other non-dancers to use the site as their input can be useful - but we ask them to be respectful and remember this site exists primarly for exotic dancers."

I know that... and I will, again, simply point out that isn't my point, which is regardless of the above the FORM ISN'T FOLLOWING THE FUNCTION. [what part of that isn't registering? :) ]

If you want to build a building you don't follow the blue print that builds a bridge.