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Smith
05-13-2008, 07:16 PM
Anyone who has taken strippers on vacation before have advice in managing their expectations with regard to money or expenses? Although I have a good job, I'm not rich.

I worry that a 24/7 week with TWO broke girls (two cause the recent ménage à trois with them was crazy good) who have strong hustle skills will go bad. Like if denied sex unless I come up with "cash for the sex"... even after spending hundreds of dollars on the day's activities of them and their kids.

And girls, can we please avoid a thread telling me what u deserve and that I should just come up with what I might give in an evening... except every few hours for a full week in addition to the expenses for 5 instead of normally just myself before daring asking someone on a vacation? I know guys would sell their houses for this chance. I like my house, and if everyone has a wonderful time I believe I should get to keep it regardless of what some desparate guy will pay.

Jenny
05-13-2008, 08:17 PM
I would expect to be paid before sex if some guy took me on vacation. Like I would assume that was on the table, so chances are at least even that they expect it too. If that wasn't your plan, maybe you should be clear beforehand? Like "the totality of your compensation is accompanying me on vacation"? I mean a kid might suddenly get chicken pox or something, but they might still want to go.

PuertoRicanPinup
05-13-2008, 08:32 PM
My two friends and I were taken on vacation with two customers/friends. It seriously was a great time! Definitely discuss with them beforehand everyone's expectations and concerned. Although you say they are great hustlers, I'm sure they would have a much better time knowing what to expect before going on vacation than having to deal with money issues during. Is it a whole week? Are they going to be missing out on work during this time? Are you paying for all entertainment while you're there? All this needs to be taken into consideration. Good luck and have fun!

Eric Stoner
05-14-2008, 12:33 PM
When I take a dancer on vacation I pick up the tab for airfare; hotel; transport ; drinks and meals. It's just like taking your wife or girlfriend afaic.

yoda57us
05-15-2008, 06:43 AM
I worry that a 24/7 week with TWO broke girls (two cause the recent ménage à trois with them was crazy good) who have strong hustle skills will go bad. Like if denied sex unless I come up with "cash for the sex"... even after spending hundreds of dollars on the day's activities of them and their kids.


I don't know why you would assume that they are NOT expecting to get paid for sex. You didn't mention in your post if the "crazy good" threesome was paid for or not but if it was that is all the more reason why you should assume that money for any sexual activities will be expected.

Pros are pros, you pay them for sex. Taking them on vacation does not absolve you from your financial commitment if you expect them to work during the trip. Certainly there is a lot of gray area here but the time to clear it up is before the trip, not during it.

mr_punk
05-15-2008, 07:32 AM
I worry that a 24/7 week with TWO broke girls (two cause the recent ménage à trois with them was crazy good) who have strong hustle skills will go bad. Like if denied sex unless I come up with "cash for the sex"... even after spending hundreds of dollars on the day's activities of them and their kids.no. frankly, unless i could wear earplugs the entire time. it wouldn't be high on my list either.

Like if denied sex unless I come up with "cash for the sex"... even after spending hundreds of dollars on the day's activities of them and their kids.what!? you're taking two strippers and their cock blocking kids on vacation? LOL..fuck that. i mean, it's one thing to have two strippers call you, "daddy". OTOH, do you really want their kids to say the same thing?

bem401
05-15-2008, 12:55 PM
You are picking up the tab to fly them to some resort, put them up in what I assume will be a nice hotel, buy all the meals for them and their kids, and cover their entertainment costs for a full week?

I wouldn't think you need to do any more than that. If you were travelling with one girl, maybe some donation would be appropriate, but if you are footing the bill for 4 additional people, you are probably already overpaying.

Probably the best thing to do ( since you say they are BROKE ) is to spend that money on them here at home over time and let them use it to help them get their financial footing. The last thing a broke person should be doing is going on vacation.

Jenny
05-15-2008, 01:56 PM
I wouldn't think you need to do any more than that. If you were travelling with one girl, maybe some donation would be appropriate, but if you are footing the bill for 4 additional people, you are probably already overpaying.
This is a more expensive version of "but I bought you a drink." If a customer invites a dancer somewhere, with the understanding of an exchange for sex, many - I suspect most dancers will expect to be paid, not just have their costs covered. He is overpaying insofar as it would be cheaper to find a nice single dancer with no kids, but that is not what he did. There is a reasonably high probability that there will be drama and a denial of sex if it is not clarified beforehand. If it is clarified beforehand - there is a reasonable probability that the party will be made much smaller. But it is best that everyone is upfront. Like "I am paying for your vacation, on which you are meant to entertain me during the day in a PG way and during the night in an X rated way. The costs I am covering are the total of your remuneration." To me it doesn't sound appealing, but I don't have kids. My vacations are just me, and therefore much cheaper.

mr_punk
05-15-2008, 03:18 PM
If you were travelling with one girl, maybe some donation would be appropriate, but if you are footing the bill for 4 additional people, you are probably already overpaying.LOL..oh, just a little.

Probably the best thing to do ( since you say they are BROKE ) is to spend that money on them here at home over time and let them use it to help them get their financial footing. The last thing a broke person should be doing is going on vacation.which is hardly a realistic suggestion. after all, we're talking about strippers.

SportsWriter2
05-15-2008, 08:50 PM
Like if denied sex unless I come up with "cash for the sex"... even after spending hundreds of dollars on the day's activities of them and their kids.
Talk to Sander8son if ur taking ur stripper family to Disneyworld. :-\

carmen_b
05-15-2008, 11:17 PM
Is it just me or does this vacation sound like it's really going to dissapoint him ?
7 days ? With kids ? You are used to seeing these girls as fantasy material, not in their every day lives. Follow Jay's advice - discuss everything beforehand.

I'd highly recommend a smaller getaway to test the waters.

First post on the blue side .........

yoda57us
05-16-2008, 05:03 AM
You are picking up the tab to fly them to some resort, put them up in what I assume will be a nice hotel, buy all the meals for them and their kids, and cover their entertainment costs for a full week?

I wouldn't think you need to do any more than that. If you were travelling with one girl, maybe some donation would be appropriate, but if you are footing the bill for 4 additional people, you are probably already overpaying.

How does the number of people on the trip alter the fact that he is expecting sex from the women? Lol, "overpaying" is an understatement in my opinion but it doesn't negate the fact that he shouldn't be assuming that he is entitled to anything sexual for free if he has paid for it in the past...still waiting for a response from the OP on that...


Probably the best thing to do ( since you say they are BROKE ) is to spend that money on them here at home over time and let them use it to help them get their financial footing. The last thing a broke person should be doing is going on vacation.

What fun would that be?

bem401
05-16-2008, 07:10 AM
How does the number of people on the trip alter the fact that he is expecting sex from the women? Lol, "overpaying" is an understatement in my opinion but it doesn't negate the fact that he shouldn't be assuming that he is entitled to anything sexual for free if he has paid for it in the past...still waiting for a response from the OP on that...

IMO, the number of people on the trip is relevant in that he is footing the bill for all of them, thus increasing what he is paying for the experience. I guess there could be some drama over what he'd have to pay additionally though. I think part depends on the destination. Driving to spend a week at a guy's vacation home is one thing. Travelling to Hawaii is another.

Either way, there are red flags galore here.

doc-catfish
05-16-2008, 08:02 AM
I frankly can't understand why any guy would want to do this. There's really nothing you can't do with a stripper in a week at some exotic getaway that you can't do in a few hours at home.

If money is in any way an issue then that should make it clear to get the whole silly idea out of your head.

yoda57us
05-16-2008, 11:24 AM
I frankly can't understand why any guy would want to do this. There's really nothing you can't do with a stripper in a week at some exotic getaway that you can't do in a few hours at home.

If money is in any way an issue then that should make it clear to get the whole silly idea out of your head.

I completely agree. There isn't enough information in the OP to make me understand why the guy would want to do this at all.

xdamage
05-16-2008, 11:37 AM
Smith,

This whole thing sounds like a really bad idea.

safado
05-16-2008, 02:43 PM
This sounds like a bad idea. You would be better of to go on vacation by yourself and find some hoes when you get there, and it would be cheaper. Also, just imagine if you take you two strippers with you an vacation and they are both on the rag that week, would you still want to fuck them?

xdamage
05-16-2008, 03:55 PM
Addendum...

If you must do this, please take photos. Before and after photos of your face, wallet, and bank statements. I am going to guess the after photos will look like :

omg, wtf did I do? I feel like such a used chump.

empty.

A minus sign followed by a big number.

NickT
05-16-2008, 04:03 PM
There was a thread a while ago about from some guy who was saying that the hookers in South America were really great and would hang around afterwards, make breakfast, etc. You should look up that thread and go there. You'd probably have a much better time.

AudreyLeigh
05-16-2008, 04:36 PM
What I dont get is why these women would want to take their children to spend a week with their customer/john?! Somethings wrong there. And if you think youre going to have these great 3somes with 2 brats hanging around youd better think twice.

Better idea - take 1 girl sans kids... set a pay that youll give her for the trip (probably the amount youll save not taking the other 3) so $4000 + expenses and have X rated fun everynight.

mr_punk
05-16-2008, 06:33 PM
What I dont get is why these women would want to take their children to spend a week with their customer/john?!hmmm..they're strippers who think they can get something for nothing?

Jenny
05-16-2008, 06:39 PM
hmmm..they're strippers who think they can get something for nothing?
I thought exchanging sex for goods and services (and currency) was like your mothership. How did that become nothing again?

mr_punk
05-16-2008, 06:44 PM
all bets are off when it involves strippers and their cock blocking kids.

AudreyLeigh
05-16-2008, 10:29 PM
hmmm..they're strippers who think they can get something for nothing?

I dunno. Im a stripper and I wouldnt take my daughter on vacation with some guy I fuck for money. Of course I dont fuck for money so maybe thats the difference?/:O

mr_punk
05-16-2008, 11:14 PM
or perhaps not, i don't think any fucking is going to happen on this trip either.

Docido
05-17-2008, 06:15 AM
Repeat to yourself 100 times:

"This is a bad idea...This is a bad idea...This is a bad idea...This is a bad idea...This is a bad idea...This is a bad idea...This is a bad idea...This is a bad idea...This is a bad idea..."

bem401
05-17-2008, 06:25 AM
or perhaps not, i don't think any fucking is going to happen on this trip either.

Oh there'll be some fucking alright. As in him getting fucked over to the tune of five large.

threlayer
05-18-2008, 02:34 PM
If the girls would pay for their own vacations and now wouldn't have to pay if they go with this guy (basically as a FB), and be off work, why would they expect to get paid? Unless they were prostituting themselves. I see their kids as spoilers to the whole thing.

The OP sees this unrealistically, maybe as a result of salestalk. Wherever you go, you're gonna find willing escorts; they are ALL over. You may be limited to one (couple if lucky), but at least the cost will be lower and no kids is a huge incentive.

Be honest with the girls when you discuss this but be firm. Maybe your FB status will continue. Another thoing, if you take these 4 over a week, something disastrous will happen, and you will lose your FB status. Almost guaranteed.

Smith
05-19-2008, 09:35 PM
Thanks all for the advice. Although I won't respond to each piece of advice, I've been carefully reading each word written.

And..... I decided to not go on the vacation.

We would never have survived the seven days either interpersonally or financially; and it would have been too lonely vacationing alone. Luckily they don't have much of an interest anymore in doing the vacation either.

carmen_b
05-20-2008, 09:10 PM
^ Good thinkin'. ;)

Pulsenflow
05-21-2008, 06:10 PM
Find a SC while on Vacation, it'll feel the same.

shutterbug007
05-29-2008, 08:56 PM
Before taking them ok a trip or vacation, it is best to discus the moiney arrangements up fron so no one gets s surprise. Agree on who pays for what and any fees for any "extra" services. If this is agreed before the trip, everyone should have a lot of great furn!

hockeybobby
05-30-2008, 07:39 PM
Before taking them ok a trip or vacation, it is best to discus the moiney arrangements up fron so no one gets s surprise. Agree on who pays for what and any fees for any "extra" services. If this is agreed before the trip, everyone should have a lot of great furn!

Three years of lurking and this ^^^ is your first post? LOL, he decided against taking the trip a week ago.
That's ok, a couple more years of lurking and you'll get the hang of it. ;D





just kidding ;)

xdamage
06-03-2008, 07:46 PM
I'd like to think your loving family (*cough*) on blue played some small part in restoring your sanity Smith. I always knew SCJ could play a contributory role in bettering human lives and helping people succeed at meeting their life goals (i.e., not blowing their life savings on a hustle they can't afford ;))

Smith
06-23-2008, 06:38 PM
I didn't take strippers but I took my rich friends.

Hey gals and guys with connections. Me and my three dudes (there are in there 20's) are in Fort Lauderdale, Fl area at a super hot exclusive report. We are hard up and need a private party bad. We aint suckers though if you if respond so don't think you can play us with a pay and run. We are respectful guys and I'll guarantee your safety, and our word is good. We expect you to like come get fucked up. BUT YOU'LL WANT TO SPEND THE WEEK CAUSE WE ARE A BUNCH OF RICH HOOKED UP SEXY FUCKERS WHO WILL HAVE FUN. Call us at exclusive resort 954-385-3651 extension 32133 There is voicemail there so leave a number and we'll call you back. If you think I'm a cop or this is bullshit, read my old messages. We aint' here but til Friday so call us NOW so we don't plan shit for your day off!
P.S. I'm a mother fucking pharmacist prescribing daily!

Jake39
08-03-2009, 09:09 PM
I think it is essentially a bad idea unless you are taking a parallel vacation to her family vacation and she can sneak away and hookup with you. I have fantasies about this - her coming to my room in the night....The stripper I have been seeing otc and itc (extras friendly club) for around a year is married but she is open to such an idea.

I have hooked up over the years with some that while in fantasy the idea is great they would be very demanding of shopping money. I mean I would probably need a money printing machine along. Another that I saw for 3 years had 4 kids (by 3 different men) plus the father of the 4th living with them whom she was supporting. Take them all to Disney World? Not for me.

saphire123456
08-03-2009, 09:15 PM
heey, you notice the date on that thread, and actually other threads you brought back from the dead. i'm sure that advice would be really relevent a year+ ago

jack0177057
08-05-2009, 12:29 PM
heey, you notice the date on that thread, and actually other threads you brought back from the dead. i'm sure that advice would be really relevent a year+ ago

I really want to hear an update on this story, though... What happened?... How much did it cost?... Did the OP get any sex out of it?

Earl_the_Pearl
08-07-2009, 03:07 PM
I really want to hear an update on this story, though... What happened?... How much did it cost?... Did the OP get any sex out of it?
He didn't go.

Jake39
08-08-2009, 01:46 PM
I think the stress of taking a stripper on vacation might be too much for me. Lets face it, she's always going to be asking for money, guys are always going to be hitting on her, and if she's like many I have known she is going to have a short attention span / tolerance for things like museums or scenery. Consequently, I take my wife on vacations but when I get back I can hardly wait to get back to the SC.

CFMNH44
08-14-2009, 01:47 PM
A friend who is a VP of Sales for a medical device company told me about one of his single sales guys that won the 'presidential sales reward trip'. (i.e. free.) All the other atendees were married and brought their wives / significant other. He invited a totally hot stripper with the understanding that she would be free during the day but would accompany him to diner evenings, that 'sex was up to her'. (At least that's what he told the rest of his colleagues...) She was classy and presentable. All his peers and company management thought he was a god! The wives were all pissed at their husbands for paying her too much attention. He and I both decided that we would do this in our next lives. ;)

MistyDoll
04-11-2010, 04:08 PM
id charge like 1000 a day plus the trip.

KS_Stevia
04-13-2010, 11:33 AM
A friend who is a VP of Sales for a medical device company told me about one of his single sales guys that won the 'presidential sales reward trip'. (i.e. free.) All the other atendees were married and brought their wives / significant other. He invited a totally hot stripper with the understanding that she would be free during the day but would accompany him to diner evenings, that 'sex was up to her'. (At least that's what he told the rest of his colleagues...) She was classy and presentable. All his peers and company management thought he was a god! The wives were all pissed at their husbands for paying her too much attention. He and I both decided that we would do this in our next lives. ;)

A stripper friend of mine was invited by a guy who had won a similar sales award on vacation. Same situation, all the other guys brought their wives. It didn't work out so well though. He kept holding her hand and acting like he was her boyfriend, and she wasn't having it. Plus she wasn't about to give up anything, not even a kiss.

Neither of them had any fun. Hence, if you decide to take a similar strategy, make sure to discuss behavior expectations ahead of time. I'm not saying she should have to sex you just because you took her on a vacation. But if you require some type of girlfriend "front", let her know you will want some handholding, pretending, etc. That will give her the option of whether or not she wants to lie to everyone around her for a week or not.

FBR
04-13-2010, 08:52 PM
Several years ago, I thought about taking Miss D with me to Indianapolis on a two day business trip. I had the dough for some shopping money for her so I wasn't asking for a freebie. But she made it clear there would be nothing beyond what had happened in the past. I respect that but I wound up telling her the meeting had been canceled. Of course, it hadn't been and I attended the meeting without her. It was a bad idea from the get go.

FBR

rickdugan
04-15-2010, 11:25 AM
In my travels I have heard of this twice, and both times it did not go well.

In the first instance the guy got nada, zip, besides of course her time during the day. They even had separate rooms. Net-net the worst of all worlds, paying for her travel expenses and then having to pretend that you are interested in her (invariably) inane drivel all day, without any between the sheets payoff at the backend. Ouch.

In the second instance, the guy got nada all but the last night (she threw him a screw out of guilt). She spent the week finding creative ways of dodging the problem each night, including a couple of nights of encouraging him to get so piss drunk that he passed out.

Both instances with girls that would not have gone if sex was preconditioned into the trips. Maybe that should have told them something!!!!

Hello! Message to the stupid - if she will not screw you OTC after you spend money on her in the club, then she will not screw you just because you take her on a trip.

FBR
04-15-2010, 06:55 PM
^ They weaken when you take them on casino vacations and give them gambling money. Or so I have been told.

FBR

rickdugan
04-16-2010, 06:07 PM
FBR, with nothing but all due respect, I will never understand why a guy would want to take a stripper on vacation and then have to go on a campaign to "weaken" her in order to get laid.

If I want to vaca and to get laid with a stripper, I will fly to Vegas, pick up a girl in one of the local strip joints, and fuck her all week in between trips to fine restaurants, casino poker tables, etc. At the end of the week, I will pay her generously for her time and fly away with the memories.

FBR
04-16-2010, 07:10 PM
^ I appreciate the respect. Thank you. And beyond that I appreciate your wisdom. Up until this moment, I thought I could take a stripper to a casino on the cheap and get laid but now I understand that the path is circuitous (considering dancers want to be courted even though they dislike us as a rule) and certainly more expensive than I would have expected. Even though I have been around the block more than once, every day it seems I learn something new from those with more experience than me.

FBR

rickdugan
04-16-2010, 07:46 PM
^ I appreciate the respect. Thank you. And beyond that I appreciate your wisdom. Up until this moment, I thought I could take a stripper to a casino on the cheap and get laid but now I understand that the path is circuitous (considering dancers want to be courted even though they dislike us as a rule) and certainly more expensive than I would have expected. Even though I have been around the block more than once, every day it seems I learn something new from those with more experience than me.

FBR

LMAO - FBR, I suspect that you have been around the block enough times for many of us. I would never question your wisdom or experience, but only the specific comment that I addressed.

MistyDoll
04-17-2010, 10:29 AM
Ok for the record I am available if youre going to:

Costa Rica
Jamaica
Australia
Europe (like venice, rome, switzerland, france all on one trip)