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austinatalie
05-14-2008, 01:13 PM
Mmm yea it seems anything to do with pregnancy its her way or no way

QFT!!

Sophia_Ashley
05-14-2008, 01:13 PM
yes, good point, she probably would have posted a poll or something. ::)

God this could be directed at more than one person who isn't a dancer ..ever and forever making senseless posts.. but whatever.:-X

Lilah29
05-14-2008, 01:15 PM
I don't get why people delete their accounts either.

I think when people are pissed off for some reason, it's their way of saying F-U to people on the board. Otherwise, you just would fade away and not come back. But when you delete your account, especially after doing a lot of posting, you want people to KNOW that you're irritated and finished.

It reminds me of a current thread where someone came on only to post that the thread had gotten stupid and they were unsubscribing from it. Why announce it? Just stop reading the thread if others are obviously still involved in it. I think it's passive aggressive, as are the account deletions and swan songs so typical on message boards.

Sophia_Ashley
05-14-2008, 01:17 PM
A lot of times people delete their accounts when they are NO longer dancing. At least if they stick by the true meaning behind stripper web. It's time to go away when simply put they are no longer active in the industry. couple that with stalkers there's a good reason alone to delete the account. Obviously if you come back, then rejoin. most that quit dancing and the industry as a whole have no intent on coming back.

not that i'd know lol

britt244
05-14-2008, 01:24 PM
yes, good point, she probably would have posted a poll or something. ::)


I'm not trying to be mean, I sincerely hope she gets help. Now for rlz i step out of thread and do some work.

yeah, that comment wasn't mean at all ::)


I think she posted that one of the well known members here did X when preggo... which I can't see being true....

i know ive read it before, though, too.. i thought from that person themself. but maybe it was from lr in the past.. who knows.

KamrynAnne
05-14-2008, 01:29 PM
everyone is dropping like flies...

Lexi
05-14-2008, 01:29 PM
Nope. Had nothing to do with that.

Lexi I thought that she did fix it eventually? Anyway your right, I think that it has do with what was said in the X thread.


No, she didnt fix it. One of the mods cleaned it up. :)

beauty21queen
05-14-2008, 01:31 PM
I dont blame anyone for leaving seriously just look at how this site is now.So much of a bitchfest here now .

Callyish
05-14-2008, 01:34 PM
So everyone bitches this site has become bitchy and yet no one has stopped being bitchy.... hypocritical much? (no that was not directed at you beauty).

TigersMilk
05-14-2008, 01:34 PM
People make SW what they want it to be. If people are snarky to everyone then snarkiness is what this place will be. If people are helpful and considerate then SW will be the same way. Sw drama = is not real life. You can close the window and walk away.

Didn't seem like SW fit lola anymore anyways.

Lexi
05-14-2008, 01:35 PM
i know ive read it before, though, too.. i thought from that person themself. but maybe it was from lr in the past.. who knows.


LR made it sound like the person did X throughout their pregnancy which was not true. The person did X before she found out she was pregnant (just like the poster who started the thread recently)

Even when asked to edit or remove her posts, Lola refused to budge.

seraya
05-14-2008, 01:50 PM
The VAST majority of people who delete their accounts come back.. I'm talking 9 out of 10... They just post under new names.

Anyway regardless of what happened in the X thread, I wish Lola well and hope she finds happiness with the family (children) she wishes for.

ajbaer
05-14-2008, 01:56 PM
im going to miss her. We had a craft trade, and part of the gift was to be made after the birth of a hopeful child. I guess I won't be getting my craft :(

britt244
05-14-2008, 02:04 PM
LR made it sound like the person did X throughout their pregnancy which was not true. The person did X before she found out she was pregnant (just like the poster who started the thread recently)

Even when asked to edit or remove her posts, Lola refused to budge.

oh ok. i knew i had heard that somewhere! but yeah, def that she did it before she knew.

TBE
05-14-2008, 02:30 PM
So everyone bitches this site has become bitchy and yet no one has stopped being bitchy.... hypocritical much? (no that was not directed at you beauty).


Seriously. And notice how responses such as these in drama threads about stopping the drama go unseen! Quite amusing. ;D

VenusGoddess
05-14-2008, 03:54 PM
For everyone's info...LR stated that I used "extasy during her pregnancy and she still had a completely healthy daughter."

Yes, I posted about this before. It wasn't the fact that she posted I had done x, it was the way it was posted. Not only did I feel that it implied I was doing x my entire pregnancy and still had a healthy child, but I felt that she was inappropriately posting something she had no business posting...especially with wrong/misleading information.

I PM'ed her about it and asked her to change it and her (basic) response to me was that she didn't care if I had a problem with it, she wasn't changing what she said and if I didn't like it I could have a mod delete it.

So I did.

Just because someone has posted a past experience doesn't give anyone the right to "summarize" the post (especially incorrectly). Aside from the fact that she voluntarily used my name and my situation (incorrectly), she never asked if I would be ok with that.

You don't post someone else's info to further your own point. If you want to link to the post where they explain it themselves, fine. But, you don't put your own spin on it and then say, "Well, you posted this before." Because that's not the point. It was posted wrong/misleading/whatever.

And you certainly don't tell the person you posted about (without permission and linking) to fuck off if they don't like it.

britt244
05-14-2008, 04:00 PM
^ i think that's really sad. a year ago, she never would've done that. i can't IMAGINE her saying that to you. (not saying i don't believe it, you know what i mean.) i talk to her off of here and honestly when i do she seems so different than the way she's been posting lately. i don't know what's going on and i'm a little scared to even ask...:-\

Hatshepsut
05-14-2008, 04:01 PM
I find it kind of ironic that despite her henpecking tendencies, especially in a pack mentality at times (some public condemnations were downright brutal and lasted over 10 pages, with her being one of them main persecutors and obviously loving every moment of it), she couldn't handle being reprimanded, even tactfully. I guess some people can't eat the meals that they serve to others. I hope that she develops a sense of decency and empathy from this, and I hope that she gets help for her mental and physical pregnancy problems.

greenidlady1
05-14-2008, 04:39 PM
Please tell me this is not true...:'(

greenidlady1
05-14-2008, 04:52 PM
People make SW what they want it to be. If people are snarky to everyone then snarkiness is what this place will be. If people are helpful and considerate then SW will be the same way. Sw drama = is not real life. You can close the window and walk away.

Didn't seem like SW fit lola anymore anyways.

This is true, I find that the people that cause the most drama here aren't very helpful. It's sort of like there are those that are helpful and those that aren't. But I always feel like what comes around goes around.

Unfornuately, as sad as the truth is everything comes to an end eventually. Even the good things along with the bad. Sometimes one before the other.

greenidlady1
05-14-2008, 04:56 PM
For everyone's info...LR stated that I used "extasy during her pregnancy and she still had a completely healthy daughter."

Yes, I posted about this before. It wasn't the fact that she posted I had done x, it was the way it was posted. Not only did I feel that it implied I was doing x my entire pregnancy and still had a healthy child, but I felt that she was inappropriately posting something she had no business posting...especially with wrong/misleading information.

I PM'ed her about it and asked her to change it and her (basic) response to me was that she didn't care if I had a problem with it, she wasn't changing what she said and if I didn't like it I could have a mod delete it.

So I did.

Just because someone has posted a past experience doesn't give anyone the right to "summarize" the post (especially incorrectly). Aside from the fact that she voluntarily used my name and my situation (incorrectly), she never asked if I would be ok with that.

You don't post someone else's info to further your own point. If you want to link to the post where they explain it themselves, fine. But, you don't put your own spin on it and then say, "Well, you posted this before." Because that's not the point. It was posted wrong/misleading/whatever.

And you certainly don't tell the person you posted about (without permission and linking) to fuck off if they don't like it.


I'm sorry to hear about all this. I've always liked you both.

kitty260
05-14-2008, 09:18 PM
People make SW what they want it to be. If people are snarky to everyone then snarkiness is what this place will be. If people are helpful and considerate then SW will be the same way. Sw drama = is not real life. You can close the window and walk away.

Didn't seem like SW fit lola anymore anyways.

No kiddin'. This ain't SnarkWeb, folks.

Sindi
05-14-2008, 09:26 PM
I just wanted to add my 2 cents about deleting profiles on here

This place is addciting and sometimes hurtful , I felt the need to delete my profile because I just couldnt pull myself way and no matter what I said it seemed to be the wrong thing .....ie , I kept getting flamed .....so I deleted my profiel to keep myself from coming back


Thats why I did it anways , I have actually been a member on here since late 2003 , I have left 2 xs .......

kitty260
05-14-2008, 09:35 PM
It must be a sensitivity issue. I quite frankly don't care what gets said on here because when it comes down to it, you're all just a bunch of strangers on the internet. With a few exceptions, of course. I do genuinely care about everyone and their well being but it's easy to maintain a sense of distance when it's not IRL. I've been flamed, beaten down, insulted, shunned, etc in my years here and guess what? I'm still here. I got over it and so did everyone else.

jaizaine
05-14-2008, 10:22 PM
For everyone's info...LR stated that I used "extasy during her pregnancy and she still had a completely healthy daughter."

Yes, I posted about this before. It wasn't the fact that she posted I had done x, it was the way it was posted. Not only did I feel that it implied I was doing x my entire pregnancy and still had a healthy child, but I felt that she was inappropriately posting something she had no business posting...especially with wrong/misleading information.

I PM'ed her about it and asked her to change it and her (basic) response to me was that she didn't care if I had a problem with it, she wasn't changing what she said and if I didn't like it I could have a mod delete it.

So I did.

Just because someone has posted a past experience doesn't give anyone the right to "summarize" the post (especially incorrectly). Aside from the fact that she voluntarily used my name and my situation (incorrectly), she never asked if I would be ok with that.

You don't post someone else's info to further your own point. If you want to link to the post where they explain it themselves, fine. But, you don't put your own spin on it and then say, "Well, you posted this before." Because that's not the point. It was posted wrong/misleading/whatever.

And you certainly don't tell the person you posted about (without permission and linking) to fuck off if they don't like it.

She was definately wrong doing that. I never responded in her poll about whether I liked her or not, one of the weirdest threads I've ever seen around here.
I dont really care one way or another whether she is here or not. She didn't subtract or add to my experience here tbh.

Andygirl
05-14-2008, 10:41 PM
Interestingly enough, this thread links to FIVE other threads with Lola Rose's name in the title. That's absurd.

I guess she's a messed up girl. Maybe it's the miscarriages, or maybe something else. It's hard to say. But just a few days ago she was sending people her wedding photos via PM, and had a thread about it. And, of course, she started and ran the latest gift exchange. So, is she gone or is she here?

NinaDaisy
05-14-2008, 10:44 PM
I'm sure her frustration with her inability to maintain a pregnancy has to be wearing on her at this point. I hope she finds the peace and happiness she's looking for.

Peanut_Butter
05-14-2008, 11:56 PM
The lack of compassion some people have shown in this thread is really sad.

Lola may have been set in her ways and said things that were out of line, but does anyone have any idea what it's like to desperatly want to have a baby and have 4 or 5 miscariages? Does anyone know how seriously that could affect a person, or how tramatizing it must be to have repeated miscarriages? Please, have some compassion. She's obviously going through a hard time, and said some thigns she probably shouldn't have said, but god, I cant imagine how she must feel or what she must be going through. And I also agree that SW may not be the place for her anymore, and she will fit in better on a pregnancy support forum, but still...she's been a member here for how long? Support for her going through this tough time wold be nice, and the ability to look past her recent outbursts because she's going through an emotional time right now.

jasmine
05-15-2008, 05:47 AM
I agree PB. She was wrong posting personal misleading info about VG, but that is no reason to flame her for everything she said over the last year or so.

I personally don't read a lot on the pregnancy threads, but did catch a little on one thread. Someone calling her the BF nazi or something. She may have been insulting, I'm not sure, because I didn't see any of her posts, I left the thread when I saw it was turning into a flame war.

I can however imagine how she would feel to have had multiple losses, then to hear others who got pregnant easily take for granted that their child will be healthy without every added benefit they could give them. With my first I didn't think breastfeeding was that big a deal, after my losses my mindset completely changed (not that I'm trying to tell everyone what to do, I just understand maybe where her inflexibility came from). I would have willingly done anything, even died to make my child healthier. Lola seems to have had a much more difficult time than any of us could imagine and doesn't even know if she ever will be able to have children.

Maybe we could all try to be understanding and show a little compassion now that the flames of whatever was said have died down. I really hope that she talks to someone and gets the help that she needs, because venting anger at random people on a message board really seems like a huge cry for help.

britt244
05-15-2008, 07:29 AM
The lack of compassion some people have shown in this thread is really sad.

Lola may have been set in her ways and said things that were out of line, but does anyone have any idea what it's like to desperatly want to have a baby and have 4 or 5 miscariages? Does anyone know how seriously that could affect a person, or how tramatizing it must be to have repeated miscarriages? Please, have some compassion. She's obviously going through a hard time, and said some thigns she probably shouldn't have said, but god, I cant imagine how she must feel or what she must be going through. And I also agree that SW may not be the place for her anymore, and she will fit in better on a pregnancy support forum, but still...she's been a member here for how long? Support for her going through this tough time wold be nice, and the ability to look past her recent outbursts because she's going through an emotional time right now.

thank you for saying that.

HOWEVER... she herself has participated in threads that were "where's xxxx?" and she's chimed right in with the "i'm glad theyre gone they were such a fuck up" etc. so as much as i'd like to defend her and tell the people making negative comments to stfu, i really can't do that.

Starfire
05-15-2008, 09:18 AM
I can however imagine how she would feel to have had multiple losses, then to hear others who got pregnant easily take for granted that their child will be healthy without every added benefit they could give them. With my first I didn't think breastfeeding was that big a deal, after my losses my mindset completely changed (not that I'm trying to tell everyone what to do, I just understand maybe where her inflexibility came from).

Here's the thing though, with what you are saying- yes, I'm sure her inability to conceive must be wearing her down. I hope she is able to conceive eventually. BUT coming on here as someone who is NOT a mother, and flaming girls on here in threads because they might be done breastfeeding, or giving her two cents about parenting at every turn (since HER WAY is the right way), is just unacceptable. I just find it ridiculous- unless you are a mommy, or have loads of relevant experience with childcare, I don't think it is appropriate to chime in so hardcore in those threads. if you want to give a little advice fine, but she took it way too far.

britt244
05-15-2008, 09:48 AM
^ i think she was studying to be a doula. not excusing her behavior, just saying that might be why she was so into it, not just because she's interested in mommy-hood.

jasmine
05-15-2008, 10:38 AM
I wasn't even saying it was right to act the way she did. Just that she is probably going through a lot of extremely difficult emotional troubles and maybe we could all forgive what would normally be unexcusable behavoir. I'm not normally an understanding kind of person myself, but traumatic experiences can make people that are usually nice lash out with anger and behave in ways that are out of character. I don't know Lola well enough to know if this is the case with her, but from my limited knowledge she seemed to be normal and nice until recently.

BrunetteGoddess
05-15-2008, 10:54 AM
This thread really makes me sad....

PrettyCurlieQ
05-15-2008, 01:23 PM
...I don't think it is appropriate to chime in so hardcore in those threads...

Barely anyone on SW is qualified to give advice about anything. We're all just talking from experience looking for support. Just because there may have been negativity attributed to a particular incident doesn't mean you should be so defensive. This is a support community not some crazy Stepford town where you've got to be on the dot right or else.

She's not the only one on here who stuck her nose where other people felt it didn't belong. Many many many of us have had at least a small period of time when SW was a major part of the day for whatever reason. Playing around typing bullshit for no reason other than we're bored waiting for something to happen. I don't mean she was always right in everything she did, but I don't think she had to be. And I don't think any of us want judgement for giving opinions in a community based on sharing information like we do. That's where the whole SW collapse comes in to play.

Corgan
05-15-2008, 01:25 PM
^ niiiiice.

Starfire
05-15-2008, 01:39 PM
Barely anyone on SW is qualified to give advice about anything. We're all just talking from experience looking for support. Just because there may have been negativity attributed to a particular incident doesn't mean you should be so defensive. This is a support community not some crazy Stepford town where you've got to be on the dot right or else.

She's not the only one on here who stuck her nose where other people felt it didn't belong. Many many many of us have had at least a small period of time when SW was a major part of the day for whatever reason. Playing around typing bullshit for no reason other than we're bored waiting for something to happen. I don't mean she was always right in everything she did, but I don't think she had to be. And I don't think any of us want judgement for giving opinions in a community based on sharing information like we do. That's where the whole SW collapse comes in to play.

Oh come on. chiming into a thread and giving your opinion and flaming someone, saying they are a bad and lazy mother for not breast feeding are not the same thing, and you and I both know it. Especially when the person doing the flaming doesn't have any experience with the difficulties of breast feeding!! I was going to quote the actual thread but I think it has been deleted-I used the search function and it won't let me into the thread.
By the way, there was nothing defensive about my post. Also how is calling someone a bad mother or lazy "supportive"?

PrettyCurlieQ
05-15-2008, 01:57 PM
Oh come on. chiming into a thread and giving your opinion and flaming someone, saying they are a bad and lazy mother for not breast feeding are not the same thing, and you and I both know it. Especially when the person doing the flaming doesn't have any experience with the difficulties of breast feeding!! I was going to quote the actual thread but I think it has been deleted-I used the search function and it won't let me into the thread.
By the way, there was nothing defensive about my post. Also how is calling someone a bad mother or lazy "supportive"?

I said that is what this site is for. Just because you don't want to hear something doesn't make it untrue. And once again, don't get defensive. I didn't say her opinion is right or accurate. But her opinion isn't the law, so even if she gave us all the advice to cut our childrens' ears off and feed them to our dogs doesn't mean we have to believe what she said or take offense to the comment. She was just giving what she felt was support to the site where she has been a good friend to many of us.

beauty21queen
05-15-2008, 02:00 PM
Anyone notice xzcire is gone too?

PrettyCurlieQ
05-15-2008, 02:01 PM
Lots of girls are gone. :( It's not at all what it used to be, I don't know what's keeping me hee. I :heartbeat SW, but it's definitely changing.

Starfire
05-15-2008, 02:10 PM
I said that is what this site is for. Just because you don't want to hear something doesn't make it untrue. And once again, don't get defensive. I didn't say her opinion is right or accurate. But her opinion isn't the law, so even if she gave us all the advice to cut our childrens' ears off and feed them to our dogs doesn't mean we have to believe what she said or take offense to the comment. She was just giving what she felt was support to the site where she has been a good friend to many of us.

The only person that's getting defensive is YOU about what I said in my first post. I'm sorry if lola rose was your butt buddy on here, or something, I didn't know...all the clique-iness lately has been a little much for me to keep track of.
All I said was what I'm sure many people were thinking...that LR didn't have any business saying such harsh stuff about breast feeding when she has no experience at it and ISN"T a mom. I stand by what I said.

PaigeDWinter
05-15-2008, 02:23 PM
Cut the bickering or this thread goes bye bye.

i.breathe.in
05-15-2008, 02:34 PM
i cant believe there is a 4 page thread becuase someone deleted their account. welcome to the internet sewing circle....

Glamazon
05-15-2008, 02:50 PM
All I said was what I'm sure many people were thinking...that LR didn't have any business saying such harsh stuff about breast feeding when she has no experience at it and ISN"T a mom. I stand by what I said.

I usually don't get involved in these things, but I have to agree with this. That BF thread and some of the things said in it, especially by LR, really had my blood boiling. She has no experience with being a new mom or the difficulties of BF and she really should have just kept her opinions to herself.

ETA: Annnnnd the types of things she was saying are things that will keep someone from asking advice in the future. How is that "helpful?"

britt244
05-15-2008, 03:17 PM
The only person that's getting defensive is YOU about what I said in my first post. I'm sorry if lola rose was your butt buddy on here, or something, I didn't know...all the clique-iness lately has been a little much for me to keep track of.
All I said was what I'm sure many people were thinking...that LR didn't have any business saying such harsh stuff about breast feeding when she has no experience at it and ISN"T a mom. I stand by what I said.

actually, she's MY "butt buddy" ::) and i'm not even 100% defending her. but i am so goddamned sick of these threads picking someone apart when someone leaves. it should NOT be allowed.

YOU don't have any business saying such harsh stuff about another person who is in fact a very sweet, compassionate girl, who was doing nothing but trying to help, even if her attempts were misguided. she is a very passionate person when it comes to children, motherhood, etc. she's allowed that. she doesnt have cruel intentions, which is more than i can say about some people here.

guess what? when i (PCQ, too, and others) have posted personal accounts about drugs, we've gotten some really shitty feedback. same goes for lots of other topics. so *GASP* those people just scared others from posting asking for help or advice. uh, no. should people just not post at all unless it's a topic that they directly have first hand experience with? there are a lot of people who give bad advice and a lot of us who are not going to agree with things others of us say, feel, and believe. but who the fuck do you (and that's a collective you, not YOU personally starfire) think you are to crucify someone once theyre gone?

i.breathe.in
05-15-2008, 03:28 PM
and thread closed in 5...4....3....2....

jasmine
05-15-2008, 03:30 PM
Deliberate threadjack....

Paige I love the new avi! You look beautiful!

PaigeDWinter
05-15-2008, 03:32 PM
When one kid cant play nice, it ruins it for everyone. Again. As usual. Thread closed.



And thanks, Jasmine!