View Full Version : Who belongs on SW?
jaizaine
05-28-2008, 10:22 PM
For the record I mentioned it a few times publicly to her that I didn't see what she was doing here. As for people who have nothing to do with this industry besides eavesdropping on our dressing room talk via SW well I think it's pretty rude actually. I dont care how nice some of them are, they don't belong anywhere but blue. Being a chick doesn't make u any less a wannabe stripper or customer. HHL was not singled out, many of us said any female customers should also be on blue and that includes SO's of SW'ers.
I'm just going to ignore any people such as these from now on as that's pretty much all that can be done.
Djoser
05-28-2008, 10:24 PM
Never mind, I moved it where it belongs.
All Good Things
05-28-2008, 10:42 PM
The historical perspective is critically important. It shows how the ship has drifted off its original course. It's still heading generally in the right direction, but sort of moving there slowly, and sideways.
Four years ago, the site was dramatically smaller. As Docido noted, the posts were longer and more substantive (well, mine have always been too long). These kinds of discussions/revelations/discourse drew the community together. People liked and trusted each other because they actually knew something significant about each other.
Also, the dancer-customer post ratio was easily 9:1, possibly higher. The men were much more careful about where they posted, and what they said. We also had some marathon philosophical discussions on blue with a handful of dancers that we've never quite reproduced. It takes a critical mass to achieve that -- once you pass that magical tipping point, you begin to saturate the site and the mission, personalities and people get all washed out because there are too many people and personalities, and the intimacy of the relationships is lost.
It's one of the reasons the hostility on the site today has gotten ridiculously out of control, and is continuing to drive people away. I think we are losing three or four good people every single day. It's easy to beat up on somebody you don't know very well and with whom you have not had all-nighter freshman dorm sessions discussing the meaning of life, the true sense of PL-dom and the finer points of tipping etiquette.
The thing about these discussions back around 2004 - 2005 is that the subtext was always "pro-dancer." I used to write long, meandering posts about proper customer etiquette, "best practices," how to spoil a dancer, what it was like in my home club when the dancers would just dump all their money in my lap and leave me to count it, how we would go to dance clubs after work, etc. It was about respect, trust, fun and humor. It was pro-dancer at its very core. Where the hell did that go?
It was also about being selective. My read-to-post ratio has always been around 100-to-1. My daily post rate over four years is 1.3 posts per day. That's about right for a supporting role along the margins. The selectivity also automatically precluded fluff posts, multiple postings in inappropriate locations, etc.
It's also easy to beat up a class ruthlessly -- "customers," "non-industry," even "former dancers," which seems to be happening right now. Honestly, I can't remember this ever being an issue four years ago.
I recognize that the site is like a ship at sea that has become lopsided and is listing and everybody is desperately trying to right the ship. But it's possible to do this without throwing overboard, wholesale and to a man and woman, entire classes of contributors who have historically played key roles in building and sustaining the cohesion that held the site together, or banishing them permanently to blue. Remember, the FAQ rules specifically state that customer contributions "are important" and that's why they are welcome on the site, including pink. It also says that the primary purpose of the site is to support dancers. That balance was much easier to sustain before. It's much more difficult today.
Now we find that we really do require new rules and lines of demarcation because as the site has grown bigger and become more ungainly, it has lost the intimacy of a small community and the more significant personal relationships among individuals -- it begins to feel more like a big loud city and less like a small town. It's why we seem to have road rage and loud honking and raised fists in the air right now -- big city things -- that you don't normally see in small towns, which was the StripperWeb of a few years ago.
scarlett_vancouver
05-28-2008, 10:56 PM
Well jeez, I guess that settles it guys! The mayor of Stripperville has spoken.
i.breathe.in
05-28-2008, 10:56 PM
i skipped around a little on this thread and i dont have much to say about all of this becuase its already been said but i would like to point out that the blues are customers. i want them around. i want input on what customers do and do not like, and i appreciate most of their input. i think some sections should be for dancers only but i dont think segregation is going to fix things.
why not add a title under the avatar so everyone knows where everyone esle stand in the grand scheme be it dancer or custi or ex dancer etc? sure people can lie, but i think it would help for allowing access to diffent posting sections.
the blues pay your bills, i dont see why they are getting all the flack that they are.
All Good Things
05-28-2008, 11:01 PM
Well jeez, I guess that settles it guys! The mayor of Stripperville has spoken.
I for one would welcome your substantive input (or commentary) on some of the points I raised. Perhaps the hostility one? :)
I am hardly the mayor of anything, and my views are simply my opinions, and you know what they say about opinions and all....
Chili Palmer
05-28-2008, 11:21 PM
II am hardly the mayor of anything, and my views are simply my opinions, and you know what they say about opinions and all....
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk17/chilipalmer99/caveman.jpg
"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I'm just a caveman."
"I fell on some ice and later got thawed out by some of your scientists."
"Your world frightens and confuses me! Sometimes the honking horns of your traffic makes me want to get out of my BMW and run off to the hills or whatever. Sometimes when I get a message on my fax machine I wonder, Did little demons get inside and type it? I don't know! My primitive mind can't grasp these concepts."
"But there is one thing I do know. When a man like my client slips and falls on a sidewalk in front of a public library, then he is entitled to no less than two million in compensatory damages and two million in punitive damages."
"Thank you."
---
Sorry. Just saw a whole stripper purse full of parallels there. I'll go quietly back to blue now.
All Good Things
05-29-2008, 12:25 AM
^ I'm just shocked to see you on pink at all. You were so vehement on blue about never posting on pink. Never, ever, ever. No exceptions. Something about checking your pants and what you find there determines whether you post on pink, right? Did something mysterious grow there some time this evening? ;D
Yeah, it was kinda rambling and pointless, but I was just trying to be polite and not actually come out and say, "opinions are like assholes -- everybody has one." Could even apply to me in more ways than one, I suppose. :)
MsQwerty
05-29-2008, 12:35 AM
^^Who isn't interested in our industry? That's sort of the catch here. EVERYONE is fascinated by strippers. And those people have a forum dedicated to them: stripclubjunkie. I would like to have a forum for people in my industry only, and it seems I am NOT in the minority here.
Exactly!
For the record I like the non industry people - I just think SW & SCJ needs some organising and clearly set boundries. We need some stripper / industry only space - that should be ovbious by now.
cutey5032
05-29-2008, 12:45 AM
i skipped around a little on this thread and i dont have much to say about all of this becuase its already been said but i would like to point out that the blues are customers. i want them around. i want input on what customers do and do not like, and i appreciate most of their input. i think some sections should be for dancers only but i dont think segregation is going to fix things.
The thing is, you can go to blue and ask them questions. Or in CC. I value a lot of their input too, when it comes to what they find sexy in a dancer, because yeah its them I am catering to ultimately. But I don't really value their info when it comes to things like clubs, and other things ONLY valuable from a dancers perspective.
britt244
05-29-2008, 12:57 AM
Question: Did anyone tell this TO her before letting it blow up? Did she ever once get a PM asking her to back off because she's not related to the industry? Once? Anyone?
actually.. yes. maybe not in PMs but ever since she first joined. one of her first threads was about how we "arent nice to outsiders" and saying why was this site open to the public if we didn't want non strippers here.. she was told from the get go that we are a STRIPPER site and that's that.
http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=86399
Peanut_Butter
05-29-2008, 02:49 AM
HHL is a very kind, compassionate individual, and she does deserve respect and kindness in return. I can see how she got to annoy people and I felt sorry for her..she was obviously loney and desperatly was seekign some kind of friendship...she was just unfortunatly looking in thee wrong place. There are definatly better forums out there to suit her needs...but still...I felt bad that she ended up being mistreated, because she was only kind to people.
Jenny
05-29-2008, 09:33 AM
Can I put something out there? This is not about disliking customers; nobody here dislikes all the customers. It is also not about (or at least not mainly about) blaming customers for every dramatic incident. This has nothing to do with characterizing customers as "bad" or "unworthy". It is about maintaining a certain environment; that environment is one in which dancers may share information and support each other. Nobody is saying that every dancer here will be a perfect paragon of virtue - we know perfectly well that none of us will. We are saying that the casual, "use your judgment on what and where to post non-dancey people with only a few hard and fast eliminations" based rules we had here are no longer effectively supporting that environment and many of us feel we are at a point where we have to make a choice about whether stripperweb will be a general social network that happens to have a focus on and interest in strippers or will it be the professionally oriented support site that we all vaguely remember? There are a couple of dancers who seem to prefer the first; most seem to want the second.
i.breathe.in
05-29-2008, 09:40 AM
having been here off and on since 05 (?) i can honestly say i think that the levels of hostility of the dancers (sometimes myself included) has far outweighed that of the hostility of the blues.
like i said i think there should be more defined areas of where people can post, but also i think there needs to be less favoritism among the pinks, the ass kissing is so obvious. it seems some members have posses and if you even so much as say something that can be constued as wrong, you get your internet ass kicked. which is ovbious why so many newbs dont post, and i dont blame them.
virgoamm
05-29-2008, 09:45 AM
Honestly, I think a lot of people are just finger pointing and trying to place blame where it doesn't belong. The vast majority of the drama that has erupted on this board has come from us. Yes, us-the strippers this site is supposed to be for.
i.breathe.in
05-29-2008, 09:48 AM
Honestly, I think a lot of people are just finger pointing and trying to place blame where it doesn't belong. The vast majority of the drama that has erupted on this board has come from us. Yes, us-the strippers this site is supposed to be for.
thank you i thought i was the only one with this mind set.
britt244
05-29-2008, 09:58 AM
Can I put something out there? This is not about disliking customers; nobody here dislikes all the customers. It is also not about (or at least not mainly about) blaming customers for every dramatic incident. This has nothing to do with characterizing customers as "bad" or "unworthy". It is about maintaining a certain environment; that environment is one in which dancers may share information and support each other. Nobody is saying that every dancer here will be a perfect paragon of virtue - we know perfectly well that none of us will. We are saying that the casual, "use your judgment on what and where to post non-dancey people with only a few hard and fast eliminations" based rules we had here are no longer effectively supporting that environment and many of us feel we are at a point where we have to make a choice about whether stripperweb will be a general social network that happens to have a focus on and interest in strippers or will it be the professionally oriented support site that we all vaguely remember? There are a couple of dancers who seem to prefer the first; most seem to want the second.
i hope people actually READ that.
Christany
05-29-2008, 10:23 AM
Can I put something out there? This is not about disliking customers; nobody here dislikes all the customers. It is also not about (or at least not mainly about) blaming customers for every dramatic incident. This has nothing to do with characterizing customers as "bad" or "unworthy". It is about maintaining a certain environment; that environment is one in which dancers may share information and support each other. Nobody is saying that every dancer here will be a perfect paragon of virtue - we know perfectly well that none of us will. We are saying that the casual, "use your judgment on what and where to post non-dancey people with only a few hard and fast eliminations" based rules we had here are no longer effectively supporting that environment and many of us feel we are at a point where we have to make a choice about whether stripperweb will be a general social network that happens to have a focus on and interest in strippers or will it be the professionally oriented support site that we all vaguely remember? There are a couple of dancers who seem to prefer the first; most seem to want the second.
having been here off and on since 05 (?) i can honestly say i think that the levels of hostility of the dancers (sometimes myself included) has far outweighed that of the hostility of the blues.
like i said i think there should be more defined areas of where people can post, but also i think there needs to be less favoritism among the pinks, the ass kissing is so obvious. it seems some members have posses and if you even so much as say something that can be constued as wrong, you get your internet ass kicked. which is ovbious why so many newbs dont post, and i dont blame them.
It seems to me that once some of the features of the site are restored, the general atmosphere of the forum will progressively and naturally follow in suit. Like in Field Of Dreams, "if you build it, they will come." Also, I consider that the forum is an entity unto itself, but at the same time, also being a reflection of the industry. Many are experiencing evolution, feeling on shifty ground, unsure of their stability of income, and the economical theories relating to that. Or they fear the "Golden Era" is over (even if they're still earning a decent amount), so it seems natural to me that some of these psychological inner workings would drizzle their way into the board and the attitude behind the posts. Honestly, I really don't notice the "trolls". The moderators usually act pretty swiftly and dispose of harassers so quickly, that half the time, I never even see the post, just read about it second hand later. The majority of "trolling" I see, is actually internal, industry person vs. industry person.
ETA: Just for clarification, I'm cosigning with I.breathe.in
TheLioness
05-29-2008, 10:33 AM
I can't remember who mentioned it (maybe tigersmilk?) but I feel the same about the ladies only section. Even though it *says* ladies only I still don't feel comfortable posting private stuff in there because you KNOW the nosey men are in there reading. And if you locked out anyone with a blue ribbon they could always create a new account with a pink one. The only way to verify sex that I can think of is to maybe have some kind of voice mail box or something where someone can call in and say something like "this is thelioness and I am female". I know you can rent them for a monthly fee. It's not expensive but you'd have to figure out how to pay for it (each female member responsible for one month, etc.), and you'd have to have a mod to check it and allow the member access, etc. I know my idea has it's faults but it's a start. Maybe it'll spark a better idea :)
Peanut_Butter
05-29-2008, 10:43 AM
^ Draw I:heartbeat SW on your tits, send image in to moderator for review. Then you will be accepted into LO.:P
britt244
05-29-2008, 11:05 AM
^i hope im not wrong for responding to something you said in another thread here, but i felt like it has more place in this one.
^ HHL. You are allowed to post here. You are more than welcome to post in body business, ladies only and the lounge (within reason.) You are not banished to blue. The issue was your overposting in the lounge so much and having nothing to do with stripping ever. But yu aren't banished to the vlue side. You are a lady and are allowed in ladies only. You are allowed in body busiess. Customers occasionally post in BB.
You went from one extreme to another, hun. Just slow down a bit in the lounge, calm the kitty postings. thats all anyone was asking, ok? We can all live here in harmony!!
that might be what some people want, but this is a stripper site. just because she's a woman doesn't mean she should be posting in ladies only or bb. again, she isnt a stripper or related to strippers in any way other than she likes them. so.. any woman can come here and post in those places, even though this is a site meant for strippers? i dont like that, and a lot of other people dont either, which is clear from this thread.
francescadubois
05-29-2008, 11:09 AM
^ Draw I:heartbeat SW on your tits, send image in to moderator for review. Then you will be accepted into LO.:P
^^:rotfl:
Peanut_Butter
05-29-2008, 11:15 AM
^i hope im not wrong for responding to something you said in another thread here, but i felt like it has more place in this one.
that might be what some people want, but this is a stripper site. just because she's a woman doesn't mean she should be posting in ladies only or bb. again, she isnt a stripper or related to strippers in any way other than she likes them. so.. any woman can come here and post in those places, even though this is a site meant for strippers? i dont like that, and a lot of other people dont either, which is clear from this thread.
I thought the general consensus was to limit customer postings, not eliminate them completly. If a female customer ( who stays on blue where she belongs) has a woman issue, is she to post that in blue? Or not post it at all and find a differnet place to talk about it? I'm all for retaking SW to the strippers. I guess I just kind of feel bad that a harmless, polite person who is just annoying feels banished from here. So I'm not saying I disagree with you, I just feel kinda bad for her... I hope she can find a differnet board she is more welcome on..one that suits her needs better.
britt244
05-29-2008, 11:17 AM
^ i agree. like i said earlier in this thread, it sucks. there are customers and people that i genuinely like that when it really comes down to it, still shouldnt necessarily be here. it's a sticky situation and a hard line to draw. but i also feel that some people are just better suited to other types of forums. we cant say "oh stay just bc we feel bad telling you we dont want you here" you know?
Peanut_Butter
05-29-2008, 11:20 AM
^ SO what's going ot happen? Are all customers and nonstrippers going ot be banned from SW permentantly? Or are we just going to try to push them out? Ask them nicely to leave us? How will any of that ever happen?
Your right. It's sticky. For the best...but still. many changes on the horizon.
oh, and if we make this strictly a hardcore stripper site, are we allowed to go off topic? I mean, how does half the shit we tlak bout have to do with stripping? The lounge will be obsolete. But if we are allowed to still socialize and go off topic, then why aren't costumers or nonrelated allowed to be off topic with us, to an extet and limited?
I mean...I'm confused i guess. In my very first post in this thread, I said that I believed customers belogned in blue, and blue only. and I still think that...but the deeper it gets..the blurrier it gets I guess. Will just have to sit back and see what Pryce does, I suppose. Cause thats what it comes down to. No use in my worrying about it. I'll still be here no matter what.
britt244
05-29-2008, 11:31 AM
^ my take on that, at least, is that if we're socializing and going off topic, thats because we're here to socialize with other strippers. i'm certainly not here to socialize with customers, or socialize in general. i dont go on body building sites to talk to cute guys, you know? if you (not YOU, but in general) are looking for a general site for socialization, i'm sure there's something better suited to your needs.
kitty260
05-29-2008, 11:36 AM
^ Draw I:heartbeat SW on your tits, send image in to moderator for review. Then you will be accepted into LO.:P
That's the best suggestion in this thread yet! I'm a fan.
No, seriously. That's how people do it on other forums. Not faultless, but pretty good.
thefrog
05-29-2008, 11:36 AM
I thought the general consensus was to limit customer postings, not eliminate them completly. If a female customer ( who stays on blue where she belongs) has a woman issue, is she to post that in blue? Or not post it at all and find a differnet place to talk about it? I'm all for retaking SW to the strippers. I guess I just kind of feel bad that a harmless, polite person who is just annoying feels banished from here. So I'm not saying I disagree with you, I just feel kinda bad for her... I hope she can find a differnet board she is more welcome on..one that suits her needs better.
" SHE " has found a board where she is welcome.
Lady Jade
05-29-2008, 11:49 AM
I look at SW sort of like a union. As cool as so-and-so and what's-their-name might be, if they're not a lumberjack, they shouldn't be joining the lumberjack union! This is not to say that they're not nice people, but there are better places for non-lumberjacks than at the lumberjack lodge.
Peanut_Butter
05-29-2008, 12:11 PM
^ Good analogy. Yes, I agree 100%.
My compassionate side was just comming out.
SPLUT
05-29-2008, 12:12 PM
Lumberjack Song
I'm a lumberjack, and I'm okay.
I sleep all night. I work all day.
Mounties : He's a lumberjack, and he's okay.
He sleeps all night and he works all day.
I cut down trees. I eat my lunch.
I go to the lavatory.
On Wednesdays I go shoppin'
And have buttered scones for tea.
Mounties: He cuts down trees. He eats his lunch.
He goes to the lavatory.
On Wednesdays he goes shopping
And has buttered scones for tea.
Chorus : I'm (He's) a lumberjack, and I'm (he's) okay.
I (He) sleep(s) all night and I (he) work(s) all day.
I cut down trees. I skip and jump.
I like to press wild flowers.
I put on women's clothing
And hang around in bars.
Mounties : He cuts down trees. He skips and jumps.
He likes to press wild flowers.
He puts on women's clothing
And hangs around in bars?!
Chorus : I'm (He's) a lumberjack, and I'm (he's) okay.
I (He) sleep(s) all night and I (he) work(s) all day.
I cut down trees. I wear high heels,
Suspendies, and a bra.
I wish I'd been a girlie,
Just like my dear Mama (or Papa in later versions)
Mounties : He cuts down trees. He wears high heels,
Suspendies, and a bra?!
Chorus : I'm (He's) a lumberjack, and I'm (he's) okay.
I (He) sleep(s) all night and I (he) work(s) all day.
Yes, I'm (He's) a lumberjack, and I'm (he's) ok-a-y.
I (He) sleep(s) all night and I (he) work(s) all day.
Sophia_Starina
05-29-2008, 12:40 PM
::) Of all the issues that exist on this site, I can't help but think that there may be some serious scapegoating going on. HHL, of all people, didn't cause the board any grief. She was always upbeat, positive, and contributed neat things like the POTW thread.
I'd be much happier seeing stupid, cunty, bitchy people leave SW.
Sophia_Ashley
05-29-2008, 12:46 PM
mmmmm cunty :beaver:
seraya
05-29-2008, 01:04 PM
Exactly!
For the record I like the non industry people - I just think SW & SCJ needs some organising and clearly set boundries. We need some stripper / industry only space - that should be ovbious by now.I think that this is the best solution.
also fix the club review section.
Get rid of customer chat... it is pointless, really. We have SCJ which is dying a slow death might I add.
and last but not least we should ALL try to tone down the snark factor and at the same time grow some thicker skin. It is the intardnets afterall...sometimes I think we take things too personally.
just my 2 pence.
jaizaine
05-29-2008, 01:04 PM
actually.. yes. maybe not in PMs but ever since she first joined. one of her first threads was about how we "arent nice to outsiders" and saying why was this site open to the public if we didn't want non strippers here.. she was told from the get go that we are a STRIPPER site and that's that.
http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=86399
thanks for finding that thread. look there is no scapegoating here. she does seem like a nice person but her very consuming presence just highlighted a problem that we have on this forum and that is of certain customers not knowing their place.
i think customers should stick to the blue, CC and the lounge (on pink). I honestly don't really like female customers even in LO section.
We cant make an exception just coz u like one particular member. If u want her to stay as she was then u have to allow all customers male or female to behave as she did. Then there is no point calling this stripperweb anymore and it may as well be called custieweb.
As Britt said I don't come here to socialise with non-strippers. I do genuinely like some of the custies we have here and enjoy their posts, but I come here for support because the job we do is very tough emotionally and who do I feel like confiding in? other strippers who have been there and understand.
I really look forward to some of the changes that Pryce discussed in site issues in his post about the results of the survey. It sounds like he plans to implement more clear boundaries about dancer sections and customer sections of the board. This will hopefully fix the current problem.
Lady Jade
05-29-2008, 01:24 PM
^ Good analogy. Yes, I agree 100%.
My compassionate side was just comming out.
Nothing wrong with being compassionate! There are several non-industry people that I enjoy chatting with, but in reality, they don't have anything to add to the STRIPPING part of SW.
If we make an exception for HHL because a lot of people like her, then who else do we have to make exceptions for? People complain about favoritism running rampant on the boards, and this would be one giant, blatant, glaringly obvious example of it.
virgoamm
05-29-2008, 01:30 PM
There's a huge gray area here though. What about members who are "curious about being a dancer" and wait years to audition? As a matter of fact, I just saw I thread a few days ago that said, "After being on SW for 3 years I finally auditioned!"
Will they somehow be welcome to post as they please on the boards while others are not?
seraya
05-29-2008, 01:32 PM
There's a huge gray area here though. What about members who are "curious about being a dancer" and wait years to audition? very true. I was one of "those" members.
Sophia_Starina
05-29-2008, 01:35 PM
We cant make an exception just coz u like one particular member. If u want her to stay as she was then u have to allow all customers male or female to behave as she did. Then there is no point calling this stripperweb anymore and it may as well be called custieweb.
I'm not asking anyone to make an exception, there are plenty more non-dancers on this board who will stick around even after HHL is gone. I think they'll make the exceptions for themselves. How about we stick to talking about the issues rather than making this about me (u this... and u that...::)) Also, this has nothing to do with whom I like... mmmkay? She isn't the first non-stripper that posted heavily on this board. However, there are a lot of complaints being lodged her way (with thinly veiled snarkfests in this thread and others). Why are we treating this like it's something new, like something HHL created?
When did you have this awesome apotheosis jaizaine? Did the little lightbulb go off above your head and you made the rallying cry against customers being on SW. Custies have been here since before I joined so why now, brown cow?
Perhaps I have the wherewithal to ignore threads that don't pique my interest... being a mature adult and all... I refuse to get caught up in this BS hysteria. I also refuse to get caught up in cliches like "this isn't custie web..." Yeah really... I had noooo idea that you for enlightening me thanks for the heads up.
jaizaine
05-29-2008, 01:35 PM
There's a huge gray area here though. What about members who are "curious about being a dancer" and wait years to audition? As a matter of fact, I just saw I thread a few days ago that said, "After being on SW for 3 years I finally auditioned!"
Will they somehow be welcome to post as they please on the boards while others are not?
If u read back in this thread many have addressed this issue and said that people aspiring to become dancers are considered industry.
*Iris*
05-29-2008, 01:38 PM
How about we post only a :( in every thread they make (non-industry members) so they get the point.
jaizaine
05-29-2008, 01:39 PM
I'm not asking anyone to make an exception, there are plenty more non-dancers on this board who will stick around even after HHL is gone. I think they'll make the exceptions for themselves. How about we stick to talking about the issues rather than making this about me (u this... and u that...::)) Also, this has nothing to do with whom I like... mmmkay? She isn't the first non-stripper that posted heavily on this board. However, there are a lot of complaints being lodged her way (with thinly veiled snarkfests in this thread and others). Why are we treating this like it's something new, like something HHL created?
When did you have this awesome apotheosis jaizaine? Did the little lightbulb go off above your head and you made the rallying cry against customers being on SW. Custies have been here since before I joined so why now, brown cow?
Perhaps I have the wherewithal to ignore threads that don't pique my interest... being a mature adult and all... I refuse to get caught up in this BS hysteria. I also refuse to get caught up in cliches like "this isn't custie web..." Yeah really... I had noooo idea that you for enlightening me thanks for the heads up.
Despite your tendencies to think that all posts are addressing you, mine was not. If u read the link that Britt provided I have said things before about customers being on the site and so have many others. The only snark on here I see is you, this is not the first time you have flown off the handle unnecessarily (like you know when u had to have time off here?) maybe u should see someone about this?
virgoamm
05-29-2008, 01:40 PM
^^Even if it takes them three years to start dancing? That's the whole point I was getting at. What exactly would they have to contribute that would be any more useful than your average joe's?
Not saying that I care, but people seem to be so stuck on "you must have something relevant to contribute" to be here. And would they, really?
Sophia_Starina
05-29-2008, 01:43 PM
Despite your tendencies to think that all posts are addressing you, mine was not. If u read the link that Britt provided I have said things before about customers being on the site and so have many others. The only snark on here I see is you, this is not the first time you have flown off the handle unnecessarily (like you know when u had to have time off here?) maybe u should see someone about this?
I'm sorry... in Australia "u" must mean something totally different than here in the states. My mistake. ::)::)::)
jaizaine
05-29-2008, 01:43 PM
^^Even if it takes them three years to start dancing? That's the whole point I was getting at. What exactly would they have to contribute that would be any more useful than you average joe's?
Not saying that I care, but people seem to be so stuck on "you must have something relevant to contribute" to be here. And would they, really?
Yeah I suppose that is a grey area. I don't know really?:-\
That's how SW is a great resource for girls interested in becoming strippers. They prob dont have too much to add but would have many questions?
Lady Jade
05-29-2008, 01:44 PM
There's a huge gray area here though. What about members who are "curious about being a dancer" and wait years to audition? As a matter of fact, I just saw I thread a few days ago that said, "After being on SW for 3 years I finally auditioned!"
Will they somehow be welcome to post as they please on the boards while others are not?
I don't think they should be able to "post as they please", but SW is a much greater resource for them in regards to their future employment than say Joe Blow who wants to bang a bunch of strippers. People who are seriously considering stripping should be able to post but I still don't think they should be posting willy-nilly. Newbs should really take the time to actually read the information before diving head-first into the boards. I know, it's very exciting to stumble upon a place like this, but perhaps if everyone exercised restraint (and used the search function), there'd be less aggravation and more constructive posting!
jaizaine
05-29-2008, 01:45 PM
I'm sorry... in Australia "u" must mean something totally different than here in the states. My mistake. ::)::)::)
yeh here we go again. i guess u really are a "mature woman" aren't you with all your sarcasm (the lowest form of wit - suits some).
it's like when u had a go at darcy in a thread for being a model and said some bullshit about her being aussie.
anyway im not getting into this with u. find someone who actually cares what u "think".
BTW I used "u" after reading a few pages of this thread and used it in the plural sense. do u follow? LOL
seraya
05-29-2008, 01:47 PM
Yeah I suppose that is a grey area. I don't know really?:-\
That's how SW is a great resource for girls interested in becoming strippers. They prob dont have too much to add but would have many questions?Sit back. Read and learn. Try to exercise some restraint instead of bombarding the board with posts and threads.
ETA. snap LJ lol
Sophia_Starina
05-29-2008, 01:49 PM
Anyway... I'll leave this witch-hunt of a thread with this bit of insight.
I have met HHL in real life and my ability to connect a face with a screen name is probably the reason I am affected by everyones preachy disregard for the feelings of another human being... a human being that did nothing to slight any of you.
Yeah.... in an ideal world maybe this board would be industry only.... but chasing someone off won't fix the bigger picture. A stripper only board will never happen.... sorry.... the internetz are just too big. You can have your pipe dreams and your utopian ideals.... I'll just read the posts that are helpful to me rather than playing lets-gang-up-on-xyz.
Good luck.
TheLioness
05-29-2008, 01:50 PM
^ Draw I:heartbeat SW on your tits, send image in to moderator for review. Then you will be accepted into LO.:P
Actually I think that is a really good idea! You may have been being sarcastic but honestly think it's a good idea :)