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MsQwerty
05-29-2008, 09:14 PM
Well, I'm not in the clique, so I don't have any proof, but it's known about among older members of the site. I was acquainted with a few ladies here, and more than one mentioned it in passing. I didn't pry because it's just not my type of thing to get caught up in. If I'm not invited it must be for a reason, and not even a negative one really. :shrug:

So sorry, no proof. I can understand if you're skeptical.

Just jumping in here - I just spoke to Lysondra cos I was surprised that she didnt know about the LR. Shes now at work and she asked if I could tell you sorry for her "disbelief" post to you :) ;D

MsQwerty
05-29-2008, 09:19 PM
Something like this might be planned with the new bulletin board tools, where members can set up their own groups in a new "Member Boards" type of area.

Don't ask for proof. I don't know if I'm thinking of a discussion Pryce had with the mods, or if it was in the public discussion, or if I'm just pulling that outta my ass. But I think, speaking only for my own faulty memory, unofficially, something akin to that is on the drawing board.

Lys & I were just saying there should be a LR rejects board for people like us (her idea) 8)

LR sounds like a big wank anyway, I was sort of disapointed when I first heard about it. I know the mods have their own area which is fine and makes sense but anyone else, pah tossers >gives everyone the two finger salute< ;D
(No offense to anyone whos actually in TLR)


Sorry for the triple post!

francescadubois
05-29-2008, 09:31 PM
Just jumping in here - I just spoke to Lysondra cos I was surprised that she didnt know about the LR. Shes now at work and she asked if I could tell you sorry for her "disbelief" post to you :) ;D

Aww, thanks! No biggie.

MissTaylor
05-29-2008, 10:27 PM
This is actually a public website -as of now at least- and perhaps people should think twice before posting details or pics that will "out" them.

For example, the only people on any of my sites and forums who know where I work are those i have essentially hand-picked and have decided to trust for one reason or another. ONE of my sites has an acronym for my company, but it could be a million different things.

Perhaps some of you should consider being more selective and not so eager for attention and praise (please know this is NOT directed to MissTaylor or Britt...it's just a general comment)



I know it's not directed at me since I have no personal photos on here, haha. I get your point though....But it's not THAT hard to put 2 and 2 together. If one pays attention. Often times I miss the blatantly obvious, but some do not. If our location is listed or we mention, even once, what club we work at.... it's not that hard to pin point who/where we are.

I no longer have this problem as I live in L.A. as opposed to Austin. In Austin, you could spot me a mile away. Here, nobody cares. But at the same time, I'm realizing that more people that I actually know IRL read my blog and all along I thought it was totally secret from all whom I personally know. And now they all know my dirty little secrets....but that's is ok with me as I chose to put my personal diary, of sorts, on the interwebz.

the one thing I've learned while living out in the big ol' city of Los Angeles is that this world is a LOT smaller than we think it is. Even though we think we're being discreet....chances are someone, somewhere out there, has us figured out. And that's kind of scary.

Tauries
05-29-2008, 10:58 PM
Well far be it from me to say who belongs here on SW....but some make it very obvious who DOESN'T belong here.

Victoryx0x0
05-29-2008, 11:03 PM
wait, is higheelover gone? :( thats who HHL is right??
now that is ENUFF, everyone i adore is leaving!!!! :(
its getting a bit ridiculous now!

Golden_Rule
05-29-2008, 11:11 PM
No, it's you GR who are hearing what you don't want to.
If it spoils your fun knowing that we hate your sweat pants and don't want to be touched then either change your habits when visiting clubs, or stop going.

We don't care if customers know that - hell we will usually TELL them instantly when their behavior is unacceptable.

Stop whinning about strippers not liking you. We don't need you comming onto our support site moaning that we're doing it wrong because you don't want your fantasy spoiled.

Ad hominem and totally off point. It has nothing to do with what is being discussed.

Also patently incorrect in what it does address.

Knowing you don't like that I wear sweat pants doesn't enhance or ruin my fun. The likelihood that we are ever going to lay eyes on each other is very remote, so why would I care what you think about what I wear? It is a non-issue.

I'm 51, I dress as I please. I wear sweatpants because they are comfortable. I particularly wear sweatpants when getting lap dances for the same reasons dancers don't like denim. I don't like course fabric being rubbed up against my skin. I wear underwear and I don't like to cum in my pants, so dancers never have to worry about the "ewwwww" factor with me. Unless they wet them my pants will be as dry at the end of the dance as the start.

As to strippers liking me. My hygiene is good. My manners passable. My money is green. Strippers "like" me just fine. I pay them to entertain me, not to be my friend. A comic on a stage doesn't have to like me to make me laugh. If they choose not to take my money that is fine by me. Free country. Someone else will want my business. No hard feelings either way. I don't have time for that nonsense.

I'm not whining about anything. In fact, I presented an idea to be considered by people who were asking how to get the site to achieve certain ends. That's all. In fact, if you bother to read your own post, you'll note that you are the one pitching something of a fit.

Finally, I have no fantasy about strippers. I knew them as co-workers when I was a bouncer. I enjoy them as a customer. They work for me when I manage. Long ago I lost any illusions about what is, and isn't, about strip-clubs.

Now, can we move the dialog along about what IS being discussed and get the topic OFF me.

Thank you.

Flick6
05-29-2008, 11:16 PM
Sorry I cant contribute much to this thread, I should probably be tossed off as my experience amounts to a bit of peep show work back in the day. I just like being around people in the adult industry with similar mindset to mine.

Golden rule, dude, you need to stop typing. Just trying to skim past the novels you are writing is giving me a headache. I am on the verge of putting you on ignore, not because you are particularly obnoxious, just because I cant be bothered scrolling down the page so far!!

Golden_Rule
05-29-2008, 11:19 PM
I actually think that an argument or discussion between GR and TOO about whether men should be on stripperweb really belongs in PMs.

I'm not actually discussing whether men belong on stripper web or not. That isn't for ME to decide.

All I did was respond to others who said they want the site to do certain things and I said, if that is what you want this is how it is done elsewhere.

I'd like to know what is wrong with presenting an IDEA for consideration.

What makes an idea toxic simply because you don't like the person who presents it? It is so counter-productive I don't know what to make of it. It defies logic.

And please stop and consider it isn't *I* making any thread about me. All I am doing is posting an idea. When people attack the idea by bringing ME into it, those are the people making it about ME. Just as you did above.

Take the personality out of it. If you don't like my idea knock it down with a better one.

cherry_sin
05-29-2008, 11:25 PM
The value of a "suggestion" is directly proportional to the value of the source it comes from.

I think that's something EVERYONE should remember.

Golden_Rule
05-29-2008, 11:39 PM
The value of a "suggestion" is directly proportional to the value of the source it comes from.

I think that's something EVERYONE should remember.

That isn't necessarily true. Particularly when the someone judging the source has personal issues with the provider of the suggestion.

Ideas are perfectly capable of rising, or sinking, totally of their own merit. Completely disjointed from the source that presented them.

If an idea is a good idea it is just as good no matter who it came from.

Same for a bad idea.

So, perhaps we should separate the personalities out of it and just measure the value of an idea based on its own merit.

Jay Zeno
05-29-2008, 11:44 PM
You're really making the case for the anti-nonindustry crowd.

Golden_Rule
05-30-2008, 12:03 AM
You're really making the case for the anti-nonindustry crowd.

If the mission statement is that this is primarily a support site for strippers, maybe that is precisely what it ought to be.

Again, not for me to say but it is a legitimate consideration.

That is how it is done elsewhere, in other industries.

Lysondra
05-30-2008, 12:05 AM
I'm totally all for having a Rejects Board. :P I didn't even know about this super duper special club called the Locker Room. ALL I can think is that they would be in there talking about the rest of the group because there really isn't anything else that CAN be said not infront of everyone else.

On another note, it looked really old, this Locker Room.

Does anyone really post in it?

LilyLove
05-30-2008, 12:18 AM
^ Haha, that's what I wondered. What DO they talk about? Maybe its all personal stuff cause they know each other really well and wouldn't want it exposed to the entire universe. I can totally understand that. Otherwise, maybe they do just talk about the rest of SW. Who knows.

Darcy Foxx
05-30-2008, 12:28 AM
It's funny, when I see people posting stuff questioning what LR is and what goes on in there, I always wonder if secretly everyone is actually a member of LR and just playing dumb as a cover up and I'm actually one of very few people who doesn't have access haha.

Lysondra
05-30-2008, 12:30 AM
Hahahaha how cute, Darcy is on to us.

Darcy Foxx
05-30-2008, 12:32 AM
Bustedddd.

seraya
05-30-2008, 12:32 AM
:banghead: OMG Golden_Rule enough already, please. Nobody is making this about you but YOU.


I'm 51, I dress as I please. I wear sweatpants because they are comfortable. I particularly wear sweatpants when getting lap dances for the same reasons dancers don't like denim. I don't like course fabric being rubbed up against my skin. I wear underwear and I don't like to cum in my pants, so dancers never have to worry about the "ewwwww" factor with me. Unless they wet them my pants will be as dry at the end of the dance as the start.
What the heck... OK this is just TMI.

Dude, wrong thread try here Sweatpants boner man (http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=99564)

Lysondra
05-30-2008, 12:34 AM
....ewwww I missed that sweatpants description.

Peanut_Butter
05-30-2008, 12:40 AM
It's funny, when I see people posting stuff questioning what LR is and what goes on in there, I always wonder if secretly everyone is actually a member of LR and just playing dumb as a cover up and I'm actually one of very few people who doesn't have access haha.

Mods can't see locker room? It's so super duper secret it's hidden from moderation?

wow. hardcore.

Dirty Ernie
05-30-2008, 12:41 AM
Originally Posted by Jay Zeno http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/images/themes/rising/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1565143#post1565143)
You're really making the case for the anti-nonindustry crowd.




If the mission statement is that this is primarily a support site for strippers, maybe that is precisely what it ought to be.

Again, not for me to say but it is a legitimate consideration.

That is how it is done elsewhere, in other industries.

Are you really this obtuse?

Darcy Foxx
05-30-2008, 12:43 AM
Mods can't see locker room? It's so super duper secret it's hidden from moderation?

wow. hardcore.

Some can, I think. I can't. Being a mod has absolutely nothing to do with LR access. I had no idea that it even existed til quite recently.

Lena
05-30-2008, 01:08 AM
Now we find that we really do require new rules and lines of demarcation because as the site has grown bigger and become more ungainly, it has lost the intimacy of a small community and the more significant personal relationships among individuals --

Who is "we"? Are you implying, again, that you are involved in running SW? If not, please stop making posts like this. We strippers are perfectly able to think for ourselves without you putting your paternalistic spin on it.

LilyLove
05-30-2008, 01:09 AM
Mods can't see locker room? It's so super duper secret it's hidden from moderation?

wow. hardcore.

Yeah, the first time I ever heard of it was because a mod wasn't allowed in and they were talking about that. It just sounds like an awkward situation in general.

Peanut_Butter
05-30-2008, 01:24 AM
I'm personally not bothered by the LR. I get it. It doesn't rile my feathers :)

However...I am wondering..are they all in there right now, laughing and giggling about us peons speculating about it? :P ;)

MsQwerty
05-30-2008, 01:38 AM
It's funny, when I see people posting stuff questioning what LR is and what goes on in there, I always wonder if secretly everyone is actually a member of LR and just playing dumb as a cover up and I'm actually one of very few people who doesn't have access haha.

Ha - I thought Lysondra was in there until today - maybe shes just playing dumb afterall :wife:

I loves that smiley^^, lol.

Lysondra
05-30-2008, 02:16 AM
:D Who knows?

jaizaine
05-30-2008, 02:33 AM
I had heard of it and i thought u had to be a mod to have access ;D

Lysondra
05-30-2008, 02:37 AM
I can't believe I know which girls have bunions and not about the LR. o_o

Jenny
05-30-2008, 05:42 AM
Bunions are really much more important. They figure largely in the life of many strippers. I've had severe foot pain in my career. I take bunions very seriously. I actually read all the bunion posts avidly all "Oooh. She must be so uncomfortable!"

Those gentlemen and customers who have exercised restraint in this thread - posted once or twice or simply refrained - thanks for reminding us that customers can, in fact be reasonable people, even when it is not particularly advantageous to them. Or just uninterested, I'll take either. Those who were unable to do so: thanks for showing us why we can't just depend on the judgment and discretion of the majority of customers on this site.

All Good Things
05-30-2008, 05:52 AM
Who is "we"? Are you implying, again, that you are involved in running SW? If not, please stop making posts like this. We strippers are perfectly able to think for ourselves without you putting your paternalistic spin on it.

This is what I mean about "walking on eggshells." I know no matter how carefully I tip-toe through the subject, I'm going to inadvertently break some eggs. I apologize for that.

I'm the last guy who needs to be convinced that dancers are capable of thinking for themselves. I write the (endlessly-) long posts about the smart dancers being the thoroughbreds of the species and brilliant in ways that are sometimes difficult to even fathom. I catch loads of brown-nosing shit about writing these things, but it is something I truly believe.

Anyway, I was using "we" in the sense of the "community," broadly defined. I think the community really does need the new rules Pryce is developing, for the reasons I cite in my post.

In terms of "running" the site, I do have a specific role in running the site, e.g. making sure it actually is up, visible and operating, but it's one I no longer discuss on the board if I can avoid it. It's nothing secret or non-disclosed; it's just a sensitive subject and for that reason I feel using discretion is best. I was totally anonymous in this role for two years and I'm trying to move back in that direction. :)

jasmine
05-30-2008, 05:59 AM
Hear ye, hear ye all! Join me all ye peons in giving a big FUCK YOU! to the LR elite! :finger:

Seriously, fuck this shit! I'm going to go buy a beachfront vacay condo tomorrow :dance: , so I'm gonna forget all about this garbage while I'm sipping pina~coladas in the sun.:neener:

BTW - Lexi - Sorry, I completely didn't get your wit last night. Was looking at said condo pics while having a discussion with the husband, which evidently = lobotomized neaderthal posts with an inability to recognize humor or wit.

Everyone else - Before someone posts a Ms Obvious I'll go ahead and say....Yep, got big, GIANT, HUGE issues with being out of the loop. Even on an internet forum, just reminds me of shit with my family.

Lexi
05-30-2008, 06:43 AM
Hear ye, hear ye all! Join me all ye peons in giving a big FUCK YOU! to the LR elite! :finger:

Seriously, fuck this shit! I'm going to go buy a beachfront vacay condo tomorrow :dance: , so I'm gonna forget all about this garbage while I'm sipping pina~coladas in the sun.:neener:

BTW - Lexi - Sorry, I completely didn't get your wit last night. Was looking at said condo pics while having a discussion with the husband, which evidently = lobotomized neaderthal posts with an inability to recognize humor or wit.

Everyone else - Before someone posts a Ms Obvious I'll go ahead and say....Yep, got big, GIANT, HUGE issues with being out of the loop. Even on an internet forum, just reminds me of shit with my family.


How do you know you arent offending your "friends" on this site by saying fuck you to them?

Lady Jade
05-30-2008, 06:52 AM
^^^ I'm hoping she was just being cheeky...?

Lexi
05-30-2008, 06:55 AM
^^^ Probably. LOL

But I am in serious need of coffee, and my luck "I" didnt get the humor this time. D'oh!

Jenny
05-30-2008, 08:19 AM
Can I recommend again that we keep our eyes on the ball? Yet more LR speculation is not the point or aim of this thread.

Casual Observer
05-30-2008, 08:27 AM
Those gentlemen and customers who have exercised restraint in this thread - posted once or twice or simply refrained - thanks for reminding us that customers can, in fact be reasonable people, even when it is not particularly advantageous to them. Or just uninterested, I'll take either.

It's not that we're uninterested; some of us just know that in the greater scheme of SW, we're ancillary characters.

Perry
05-30-2008, 09:01 AM
I'm not going to bring up the LR anymore - just that if it was so easy to keep it secret and keep irelevent posters out, then why can't the same be done with Stripping General and Ladies Only?

I'm not saying non-industry folk don't belong here. They're important to SCJ and CC and the social areas of the site. Yes, it's easy to lie about gender and occupation, but mostly just trolls do that and we're pretty good at weeding those out. There's a lot of concern about privacy, and keeping posters in the areas they belong - not just sending all non-dancers off the site.

red red red
05-30-2008, 09:14 AM
I don't think the boundary between industry-only sections of the site and other sections necessarily needs to involve a password, or even profile screening. People generally don't want to go where they are not wanted after they are made aware of the fact that it's a problem. We might get a few, but a lot of the times... that's where we get our best material. What would SG be without a thread now and again that involves some clueless journalist getting thrown to the wolves for assuming that we will all give up the dirt for free on a thread they started? Sometimes the unwanted threads turn into good discussions. For people who are going to be hanging out for awhile, though... boundaries become necessary. And a lot of the people who have chosen to hang out with us despite not being in the industry inherently understand that. With the influx of newbies and non-industry folk, however, things recently got a bit out of hand. I don't think it'll take much to kind of reign it back into what its intended purpose is.

I'm not seeing why this needs to turn into a customer vs. dancer war of sorts. We just need to figure out what the boundaries should be and enforce them gently, as a community. And all ultimately be on the same side about it.

britt244
05-30-2008, 09:44 AM
so.. um.. TOO.. whats up with you? why are YOU here? because you.. like strippers? or is there something else i don't really know about? /:O

Lysondra
05-30-2008, 10:07 AM
Well... currently he's dating one of our members. Why he joined, I don't know. But he actually has current reasons for being here.

xdamage
05-30-2008, 10:07 AM
I think an experiment should be tried.

Close down CC. It is just begs customers to come to the site and converse with dancers, which the group as a whole seems to be on the fence about.

Close down the gallery ... or make it dancer only, you must be logged into view (hard to enforce but why make it easier?) What is the point of it except to attract guys to come to the site and view pics of dancers followed by posting.

Try it for a couple months. Simple. It can be put back. For the most part customers can post on blue.

p.s. not all of the guys on blue agree with this. Some prefer new customer posters post on the pink side. They have valid points too, but experiments like closing down CC and the gallery are cheap to run and easy enough to undo if it turns out people find the site is better off as it was.