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Venus Doom
12-18-2008, 10:32 PM
I don't forgive people for being assholes just because they're drunk/excited/horny.
I meant it like "forgive and forget" and move on.
zoe69
12-20-2008, 07:04 AM
I don't buy that either. If an individual of any gender is unable to act like a civilized adult, they can fuck right off. I don't forgive people for being assholes just because they're drunk/excited/horny.
That is true, but you choose to be offended. It doesn't do you any good.
Venus Doom
12-21-2008, 02:09 PM
^^^ Yeah, anger, like lust is one of the 7-deadly-sins . . . not healthy, immature.
Otoki
12-22-2008, 08:11 PM
That is true, but you choose to be offended. It doesn't do you any good.
I don't get angry, I'm just not going to write it off as "boys will be boys" or something. If I had known that Venus Doom meant this:
I meant it like "forgive and forget" and move on.
I wouldn't have had that response to her post.
bambiblue
01-01-2009, 02:30 PM
I'm so getting a second job. After working 8 hours tonight, I owe the DJ 7 bucks.
EFF THIS. I'm gonna be a secretary.
I am also looking into other possibilities.... i can say that my income has easily been cut into half, and I have been working twice as much. It is very frustrating, and I am ready to do something else until things get better.
zoe69
01-03-2009, 07:36 AM
I don't get angry, I'm just not going to write it off as "boys will be boys" or something. If I had known that Venus Doom meant this:
I wouldn't have had that response to her post.
Yup, that's what boys are, that's why I like men!
DeluxxeIt
01-16-2009, 03:31 PM
Before. I was making so much money I didn't know what to do with myself. Now I can barely remember the times I danced. Then I moved to GA which slowed me down a lot. I wanna dance again. But from what I am seeing at top clubs...Will me spending 300 dollars even be worth it...
misslizzy
02-03-2009, 02:09 PM
Well, I got back to work in NJ last month, after a looong hiatus. Things that had changed for me that made a difference financially:
- I made it a point to be in the best shape of my adult life when I went back. I still made more money in NJ last Jan, when I was a little thicker, but the confidence of knowing I look slammin' helped me keep going on nights where I might otherwise have given up and gone home.
- I'm much less of a lazy hustler now. If the hardcore, always in VIP girls are working, I still get a bit lazy if there's only 2 or 3 guys in the club, but otherwise, I've taken to asking just about every guy in the club for dances before allowing myself to be lazy in the dressing room or smoking area.
- I've been pushing small VIP rooms hard. 30 minutes in the Presidential suite may not be likely, but I can get 30 in the regular VIP area. If I can't get 30? Well let's go for 15, then. As far as songs vs. money, the guy really gets a criminally good deal on that one, but that makes him more likely to buy it, and it's still 80$ I didn't have 15 minutes ago.
- I took heed of some of what's been said on here, and stopped buying so many outfits. I already wear shoes until they die, but I definitely have an outfit addiction. In one month, I only bought 3 outfits, and two were neccesary, since I was trying out my first gown club and had nothing appropriate.
- I found a club 10 minutes from where I was staying. I carry enough weapons on a day-to-day basis that I'm not particularly concerned about being recognized and harassed OTC, and I saved a bundle on gas.
- Now, I'm back in AZ... mostly ignorant of how it's been here since I left, and I kind of don't wat to know. Last year was pretty awful, but I look better and hustle better than I did then. I'm also starting out at a club where I make more than I started out making last year, and I have a regular Phoenix license that works in a billion clubs this time, rather than the crappy outside-the-city license that only works in two clubs and costs 6 times as much. I'm ready to rock!
sorsi
02-04-2009, 01:23 AM
^^ good for you, miss lizzy! ;) I pretty much did the same things: lost weight and toned up, stopped buying so much crap for work, and forced myself to go from lazy to uber-aggressive. My confidence level is through the roof as a result losing weight (which makes it easier to be aggressive and hustle and demand larger amounts of money), and I found that I really don't need a lot of makeup and 73456349853 outfits to make money, so I'm saving a lot of $$ there.
I'm not qualified to speak for anyone but myself, but I know it's easy to blame a lack of earning power on "the recession" or "the economy" when in reality there are a lot of variables that are totally in my control. Taking charge of those variables and making changes can make more of a difference than a lot of us may think.
Otoki
02-04-2009, 10:17 AM
misslizzy, your attitude about "it's still $80 I didn't have before" is excellent. I don't know what the club cut is, but I always avoided doing anything that meant I had to give the club a lot of money in the past. Now, the only way the Seville gets money from me is if I get paid in Dance Dollars, in which case they take 15% (so, for 260 in DDs for one hour, the club gets $39, leaving me with 221). While that sort of sucks, people treat their dance dollars a lot less like money and more like toys, so they end up spending a lot more.
I don't bargain with my dances, but I've noticed that I've been really confident lately. I average a little over 400/shift now, and I think that's a damned good income. I've stopped worrying about whether or not other girls (most of whom have regulars) are making a grand, because we hustle differently and they do some things I'm not able/comfortable doing (lying about their marital status, kissing the ass of narcissistic customers, giving out contact info) although I have no problem with them doing it. I realized that different people use different legitimate methods of hustling, and since I'm picky about what I'm willing to do I have to accept that I'll occasionally make less than the girls who do more to make the customer feel like a king.
misslizzy
02-05-2009, 12:32 AM
Thanks! That attitude keeps me sane a lot of nights. On the 15 minute rooms in that club, the club got 40 and I got 80. The club got more if the customer paid with a credit card, too. :(
In my AZ club, it's even worse; they take 55% of all dance monies. The "$$ I didn't have before" idea only works so far on this, but I also remind myself that part of that 55% is commission for the Host, who really does hustle HIS butt off to sell more dances for me. So, as much as it feels like pimpage, the double team effort is handy in a recession.
Either way, I'm making about half of what I was a year ago in NJ, and less than half of what I was making two years ago. But I'm with you in the lack of regulars and ass-kissing, so that's to be expected, I suppose. I simply refuse to let my earnings drop down into the range where I could be doing something else for the same kind of money.
Otoki
02-05-2009, 01:45 AM
Thanks! That attitude keeps me sane a lot of nights. On the 15 minute rooms in that club, the club got 40 and I got 80. The club got more if the customer paid with a credit card, too. :(
In my AZ club, it's even worse; they take 55% of all dance monies. The "$$ I didn't have before" idea only works so far on this, but I also remind myself that part of that 55% is commission for the Host, who really does hustle HIS butt off to sell more dances for me. So, as much as it feels like pimpage, the double team effort is handy in a recession.
Either way, I'm making about half of what I was a year ago in NJ, and less than half of what I was making two years ago. But I'm with you in the lack of regulars and ass-kissing, so that's to be expected, I suppose. I simply refuse to let my earnings drop down into the range where I could be doing something else for the same kind of money.
Hmm, but how much did that 55% add up to, for what amount of time? Really, if it was less than 60 bucks for fifteen minutes, you can make that in half the time just with dances. That definitely sounds like pimpage. Fuck them.
misslizzy
02-05-2009, 02:19 AM
The 55% added up to around $90.
Last year, I was working at a few different clubs in the PHX area, and having an absolutely awful time of it. I'm not britneyireland: super PHX stripper, but I have good moves, a good hustle, and a good body, and I was making nothing. Like $100 or less a shift. I found this club that takes 55% of my dance money, and my take-home earnings doubled. And I've only ever worked there on weeknights. (My first ever weekend shift there will be Friday.)
I don't really want to know if PHX has gotten better or worse for the average girl in the 10 months since I was last in town. If I find out its worse, I'll just get discouraged. I'll probably give a few other area clubs a shot, just so I know what my options are, but if I still feel like my take-home is more than it would be anywhere else, I'll happily fork over too much money as long as I can still pay my bills.
Otoki
02-06-2009, 12:26 PM
The 55% added up to around $90.
Last year, I was working at a few different clubs in the PHX area, and having an absolutely awful time of it. I'm not britneyireland: super PHX stripper, but I have good moves, a good hustle, and a good body, and I was making nothing. Like $100 or less a shift. I found this club that takes 55% of my dance money, and my take-home earnings doubled. And I've only ever worked there on weeknights. (My first ever weekend shift there will be Friday.)
I don't really want to know if PHX has gotten better or worse for the average girl in the 10 months since I was last in town. If I find out its worse, I'll just get discouraged. I'll probably give a few other area clubs a shot, just so I know what my options are, but if I still feel like my take-home is more than it would be anywhere else, I'll happily fork over too much money as long as I can still pay my bills.
Wow. Well, if you can ever travel to dance, I would suggest trying that as well.
misslizzy
02-07-2009, 05:56 AM
Trying what? I do travel, I drove 4 days from NJ to get here.
/threadjack, but feel free to PM me :)
Miss_McKenna
02-07-2009, 04:44 PM
misslizzy, I think that's a great attitude to have. Any money is good money and if you've found a way to make more, thats always good, even if it means the club gets more too.
One thing I've started doing (not really related to stripping though) is keeping track of everything I spend money on. I used to hate how a whole shifts earnings could just kinda "disappear" before I even had time to go put it in the bank, and so now I write down when I buy lunches, go to Starbucks etc. It's made me really determined to cut out all the junk I buy, because I can't believe how much of my money goes on eating out and things.
Otoki
02-09-2009, 11:44 AM
misslizzy, I think that's a great attitude to have. Any money is good money and if you've found a way to make more, thats always good, even if it means the club gets more too.
One thing I've started doing (not really related to stripping though) is keeping track of everything I spend money on. I used to hate how a whole shifts earnings could just kinda "disappear" before I even had time to go put it in the bank, and so now I write down when I buy lunches, go to Starbucks etc. It's made me really determined to cut out all the junk I buy, because I can't believe how much of my money goes on eating out and things.
Keeping track of your spending is an excellent thing to do.
I actually have a budget for different things each month. This has helped me make sure I don't spend more than necessary on different things.
My categories, with monthly savings goals:
Tuition: 500
Savings: 500
Roth IRA: 500
Rent: 400
Utilities: 200
Food/groceries: 260
Dogs: 340
Gas: 200
Medical: 180
Car Insurance: 120
Car Repairs: 100
Work: 200
Misc expenses: 200
Media: 100
That works out to 3800/mo on "necessities", and any extra money goes to next month's savings goals, with a little bit set aside for play:)
I simply calculated how much I spent on, say, work expenses each month. It worked out to:
120 for bi-weekly mani-pedi massage.
30 every three months for haircut
80 every three months for hair products (shampoo etc)
50 every three months for outfits (mostly new thongs, or a pair of shoes).
That worked out to an average of 170 needed per month, and I rounded it to 200 in case unexpected expenses came up:)
This is a great way to make sure you stick with a specific budget for each "category" in your life.
kikiwiki
02-18-2009, 01:28 PM
I keep reading companies now reporting 4Q losses. Name of this thread will eventually change to "dancing during a depression"..:(
IvytheStripper
02-25-2009, 08:28 AM
I quit dancing some months ago, before things got too tragic in favor of school and recently have started SERIOUSLY considering going back to it to be better able to provide for myself . Since my retirement, boy and I have been scraping by on his income while I go to school. For most of that time I've been feeling guilty about living off of him completely. I mean it's pretty embarrassing to bum the scratch for tampons (generic) off your fella.
As determined as I am though, I'm not at all optimistic about my chances of even making enough pocket money to make it worthwhile. Where before I was kind of lazy about the grooming and clothes bit, I'm planning, like some of the other posters have mentioned, on polishing up my look and moves. Granted that may only go so far, what with my flapper haircut, mod/ new-wave musical taste, and an aesthetic that runs toward the burlesque end of the spectrum. I mean, I shine up like a new penny but nothing is going to make me tall or skinny, give me waist-length hair or in any way make me look like a stripper, Well a modern one anyway.
I'm getting scared about my prospects. Definitely a dicey time to be jumping back in the game.
Vyanka
02-25-2009, 08:53 AM
I quit dancing some months ago, before things got too tragic in favor of school and recently have started SERIOUSLY considering going back to it to be better able to provide for myself . Since my retirement, boy and I have been scraping by on his income while I go to school. For most of that time I've been feeling guilty about living off of him completely. I mean it's pretty embarrassing to bum the scratch for tampons (generic) off your fella.
As determined as I am though, I'm not at all optimistic about my chances of even making enough pocket money to make it worthwhile. Where before I was kind of lazy about the grooming and clothes bit, I'm planning, like some of the other posters have mentioned, on polishing up my look and moves. Granted that may only go so far, what with my flapper haircut, mod/ new-wave musical taste, and an aesthetic that runs toward the burlesque end of the spectrum. I mean, I shine up like a new penny but nothing is going to make me tall or skinny, give me waist-length hair or in any way make me look like a stripper, Well a modern one anyway.
I'm getting scared about my prospects. Definitely a dicey time to be jumping back in the game.
You don't have to be tall & skinny to be a stripper. You're a stripper, not a runway fashion model. :P
Just try and see instead of wondering what it's like now. ;)
indie
02-26-2009, 12:45 PM
Don't quote me on this, as I don't know just how reliable my source was, but I was told that we are in a recession and it the events that have taken us into it and continue to take us farther into it are the same kind of events that took us into the Depression years ago. Needless to say, they said we will soon be in a Depression.
My day job right now is transcription for the legal and financial sectors. The Depression comparisons are just fear mongering -- I hear about it for five hours a day, every day. 9/10 of the calls that I get through are financial advisors and reps either calming down their clientele who are panicking -- which is the heart of the problem, to begin with -- or making notes to themselves about how frustrating it is that the media is blowing this thing up to be a big, ugly, unbeatable thing when, in fact, this is just part of a much larger economic cycle. It will come back around. :)
indie
03-02-2009, 08:23 PM
misslizzy, I think that's a great attitude to have. Any money is good money and if you've found a way to make more, thats always good, even if it means the club gets more too.
One thing I've started doing (not really related to stripping though) is keeping track of everything I spend money on. I used to hate how a whole shifts earnings could just kinda "disappear" before I even had time to go put it in the bank, and so now I write down when I buy lunches, go to Starbucks etc. It's made me really determined to cut out all the junk I buy, because I can't believe how much of my money goes on eating out and things.
Mint.com is so AWESOME for keeping track of your finances. It itemizes every transaction that goes through your bank account and keeps an historic record of what percentages you spend on food, restaurants, bills, gas, etc. It makes pie charts and graphs for the more visual-minded.
I LOVE THIS SITE! And it's free. And I am not a spammer, I just really love great free things. ::)
blair2
03-04-2009, 06:05 PM
last night my club turned off the heat to save extra money. they turned off the heat and it was fucking snowing outside! having 0% body fat, i nearly froze to death. i know its bad, but i went into the champagne room and took a nap. that was the only room the fuckers heated.
i get that we're in a recession but that was the last straw for me there. i'll check out other clubs, but i'm not going back.
Blue_Dust_Bunny
03-04-2009, 07:57 PM
A lot of girls at my club (in Austin, TX) were talking about how New Orleans is desperate for new girls and they plan to travel over there every month...definitely seems worth it since only 5 guys came in last night x__x
Can anyone else report on this?
Venus Doom
03-05-2009, 09:57 AM
BlueDust: New Orleans (from what I've read in the news) is pretty much like the Wild West now, after Katrina . . . If U do go, let us know how it went!
Winged Dinghy
03-05-2009, 10:09 AM
I'm in NOLA--I wouldn't say the clubs are "desperate" for new girls. In the clubs I circulate between, there are a few (mostly the Metairie clubs) that are actively recruiting (posting ads on Craigslist). But those are the clubs where there isn't any money.
I really don't see a shortage of girls at the clubs on Bourbon or in New Orleans East (Visions). Basically, if a club here is desperate for girls, it is probably not the kind of place you want to work at anyway. There's a reason why girls are avoiding it!
I know there was a glut of girls for Mardi Gras-- I was told that they had like 80 girls a night at Ricks! Hopefully, those girls have cleared out by now.
And the Wild West??? Hardly...I mean, Katrina was nearly four years ago. In the year directly after it, yeah, things were pretty, um, rustic, I guess you'd say. No working street lights. Minimal infrastructure. Military police everywhere you looked. But now things are mostly back to normal. Except there's still a high murder rate and a lot of crime. Which, sadly, is business as usual for here.
I really wouldn't encourage anybody to come here to work right now. Most nights, it is very hit or miss. I don't know how Austin is, though, so maybe it's better here than there.
Just a Rumor
03-08-2009, 10:28 AM
I have taken on 2 new dancing jobs to cover my losses, as well as to get more schedule time because alot of girls panicked and booked the whole next 3 weeks up! I cant even get a spot! Tonight I start my new job at another club... this makes job #3 for me... damn economy...>:(
sexy_celeste
03-09-2009, 07:55 AM
Im having the same problem here. Its been quiet, plus theres so much competition for shifts. Apparently Im the only girl not doing extras.
Been trying for a regular job, (I have a degree, worked as both a cook and floor manager in a pub, plus I grew up on a farm, so I have LOADS of skills) and I cant find anything worth it. (there are jobs out there, but for $17/hr? No way)
Im being so tight with my money. Porridge for dinner tonight.
Athenathefabulous
03-12-2009, 08:07 PM
i worked in 2 clubs on bourbon street over mardi gras. I did pretty well, but there were obviously tourists there. The girls at one of the clubs i worked at said mardi gras wasnt the best time as there was a free party out in the streets. That particular club said they welcome out of town people to work and that i could come back any time etc., which maybe sounds desperate for girls. I didnt consider it a hole in the wall, but then again i dance in cleveland....
the other club i worked at also seemed happy to have new girls but mostly for day shift. there was a lot of business there though.
Winged Dinghy
03-12-2009, 08:09 PM
i worked in 2 clubs on bourbon street over mardi gras. I did pretty well, but there were obviously tourists there. The girls at one of the clubs i worked at said mardi gras wasnt the best time as there was a free party out in the streets. That particular club said they welcome out of town people to work and that i could come back any time etc., which maybe sounds desperate for girls. I didnt consider it a hole in the wall, but then again i dance in cleveland....
the other club i worked at also seemed happy to have new girls but mostly for day shift. there was a lot of business there though.
Which clubs did you work at?
Athenathefabulous
03-12-2009, 08:27 PM
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DaniMBSC
03-15-2009, 09:16 AM
there really has been less and less girls dancing the past 6 months, everywhere has dancers wanted signs up. so basically all we have left are:
the girls who drink and sit around all night for free with customers
the girls that will do anything for a buck
the hustlers
even for myself hustling has gotten a lot harder. ive gotten ripped off on more table dances then normal. guys not wanting to pay what i charge even after i tell them how much i charge. the club wont back me becuase its not their rates so i get the shaft. but in the long run those 2 on a weekend night are really worth everyone else who pays in full what i charge.
I work in Myrtle Beach SC which is wonderful during the season with the golfers and such. But I've noticed there aren't as many girls even with the season rolling in. It's just the house girls and random newbies.
showgirlschloe
03-23-2009, 05:27 AM
I was working in Tampa, which seemed to slow down a lot. I noticed right around the holidays and right into tax season just was horrible. I recently moved to Ohio and have been doing a lot better. I figured it'd be slower since a lot of people got hit hard here, but they're still out spending money. One guy comes in for me a lot and tells me it's time to stimulate the economy. I do notice I'll have one very bad night, but the weekend usually is very good.
Czechcheck
03-29-2009, 05:01 AM
Of course the economy is affecting us dancers. What happens is when money gets tight it seems the girls doing extras increases, which then makes it harder for clean girls to make money. I always hear girls boast about making $800+ and then when you say you dindt make that they say " it must be you" that is basically stripper talk for "im better than you" but in reality they dont make that much, its all hype and they say that just so they can make others jealous. I know a lot of girls will say they make that much and dont do extras(but lets leave fantasy land for a minute and go to the real world) the main thing is the credit markets are frozen up and people rely on credit for everyday purchases and big purchases. Since banks are not as willing to extend credit as freely as before, most people have to use cash now to pay for what they used to pay for with credit cards. This amounts to less money floating around in the clubs. I feel SEXY CELESTES' pain(having to get other jobs and qualifications meaning 0) How ridiculous is it when a dancer has to get a second job? We shouldnt have to live like struggling bums while taking our clothes off. Another big issue is the clubs looking out for themselves and basically using dancers as bait. They run all these cheap beer specials and cover specials and what do specials attract...cheap people and cheap people =NO money. They are trying to hype up earning potential at their clubs(example:work here and make the big money$$) but in reality they need as many dancers as they can get because more dancers=more house fees total. They need that house fee money to stay afloat until the credit markets open up again. So essentially and ironically the DANCERS HAVE BECOME THE CLUBS TOP CUSTOMERS. Managers need to get off their asses and bring in some people with REAL money. Some of you will think I am an ass, but I am just telling the truth. We are all in the same boat that is in rough waters ..some will be in denial while others will agree and paddle like hell...Think about it.
Winged Dinghy
03-30-2009, 03:47 PM
^^^^
amen, sister! thanks for telling it like it is. I've been in too many clubs lately where I've seen that exact scenario going down.
I keep on hopping from club to club, thinking I'll find one with decent money, but so far the ones I've worked at all seem to operate according to the horrible model you just described.
Otoki
03-31-2009, 08:26 AM
Of course the economy is affecting us dancers. What happens is when money gets tight it seems the girls doing extras increases, which then makes it harder for clean girls to make money. I always hear girls boast about making $800+ and then when you say you dindt make that they say " it must be you" that is basically stripper talk for "im better than you" but in reality they dont make that much, its all hype and they say that just so they can make others jealous. I know a lot of girls will say they make that much and dont do extras(but lets leave fantasy land for a minute and go to the real world) the main thing is the credit markets are frozen up and people rely on credit for everyday purchases and big purchases. Since banks are not as willing to extend credit as freely as before, most people have to use cash now to pay for what they used to pay for with credit cards. This amounts to less money floating around in the clubs. I feel SEXY CELESTES' pain(having to get other jobs and qualifications meaning 0) How ridiculous is it when a dancer has to get a second job? We shouldnt have to live like struggling bums while taking our clothes off. Another big issue is the clubs looking out for themselves and basically using dancers as bait. They run all these cheap beer specials and cover specials and what do specials attract...cheap people and cheap people =NO money. They are trying to hype up earning potential at their clubs(example:work here and make the big money$$) but in reality they need as many dancers as they can get because more dancers=more house fees total. They need that house fee money to stay afloat until the credit markets open up again. So essentially and ironically the DANCERS HAVE BECOME THE CLUBS TOP CUSTOMERS. Managers need to get off their asses and bring in some people with REAL money. Some of you will think I am an ass, but I am just telling the truth. We are all in the same boat that is in rough waters ..some will be in denial while others will agree and paddle like hell...Think about it.
Another thing to keep in mind:
hardcore hustlers and professionals who have been doing this for a while usually don't openly talk about specific figures they make.
jgand
04-03-2009, 03:02 PM
Things are tight right now, but sex always sells. If work for the right club you may not even feel recession. Of some of the regulars will go away. As far as working more hours you have to do what you have to do.
black_widow
04-21-2009, 03:37 AM
A lot of girls at my club (in Austin, TX) were talking about how New Orleans is desperate for new girls and they plan to travel over there every month...definitely seems worth it since only 5 guys came in last night x__x
Can anyone else report on this?
I personally made more money in Austin then I did in New Orleans, and I worked Mardi Gras this year. Honestly, the money is all about the same everywhere and it's (obviously) not that great. I've been travelling around the country and I've found Texas to be where it's at, at least for me. LA and Southern Cali in general is the worst, but on average, I'd say that it's not worth the cost of travelling because most places are going to be about the same. Right now, I'm taking home 300-400 a day, more on weekends, and that seems to be about as much as I can pull lately, pretty much anywhere.
misslizzy
04-22-2009, 11:02 AM
These days, I'm back working at the first club I ever danced at, 2.5 years ago. Back then, within 2 weeks of starting dancing, I got used to making 4-500 a night, before I even knew what I was doing. All the hard hustlers back then were like, "kiddo, that's nothin." They were all making over a g a night back then.
Now, I'm a better hustler, in better shape, and I move better on stage and give better dances, and I'm making about the same as I ever was in that club (more or less; it IS less consistent). But the pro hustlers (at least the ones who will talk about it) are making about the same as me now. I guess I've ranked up from working my ass off this far through a recession. :D
black_widow
05-03-2009, 03:47 AM
It's simple: WORK HARDER.
Work longer shifts, work more shifts, work HARDER at work, and really learn to budget your money. I know a lot of girls haven't learned these skills because they are used to the money always being there, but you've just GOT to do it. OR get a regular job, if you can. But it's just easier to work HARDER, IMO, but then again, I'm the sort of person who works 5-6 shifts a week irregardless of recession or no, so that's just me.
ALSO: brush up on your skills. Learn different selling techniques, and watch girls at your club that make big bucks and emulate them, or the things that they do that you think will work. Get fit, work out, lose weight, tone up, get a new hairstyle--get on it. There is less money and more women. You've just got to step it up!
Rayna Skye
05-05-2009, 05:51 AM
I'm making about the same, but a few years ago, I would get that crazy ass money night. Now there are no more crazy ass money nights. I do about 300 dollars a night on the weekends. I have seen the week days go down.
Christyismyalias
05-08-2009, 04:09 AM
It's simple: WORK HARDER.
Work longer shifts, work more shifts, work HARDER at work, and really learn to budget your money. I know a lot of girls haven't learned these skills because they are used to the money always being there, but you've just GOT to do it. OR get a regular job, if you can. But it's just easier to work HARDER, IMO, but then again, I'm the sort of person who works 5-6 shifts a week irregardless of recession or no, so that's just me.
ALSO: brush up on your skills. Learn different selling techniques, and watch girls at your club that make big bucks and emulate them, or the things that they do that you think will work. Get fit, work out, lose weight, tone up, get a new hairstyle--get on it. There is less money and more women. You've just got to step it up!
Absolutely. Let's face it, many strippers are lazy and want money just handed to them but don't put it any real effort. Time to get your game face on!
halfasiangrl
05-21-2009, 10:39 AM
Good question! I am curious too how the business is these days. I will be going back to work and I have been out for almost 2 years. I'm a lil worried about what it will be like, but I guess I will soon find out!
miabella
05-24-2009, 02:00 AM
you will make more money with so many other things, it is actually shocking. making fabric, gardening, tutoring homeschooled kids, and those are just a very few options.
amalya
05-31-2009, 03:11 AM
It's simple: WORK HARDER.
Work longer shifts, work more shifts, work HARDER at work, and really learn to budget your money. I know a lot of girls haven't learned these skills because they are used to the money always being there, but you've just GOT to do it. OR get a regular job, if you can. But it's just easier to work HARDER, IMO, but then again, I'm the sort of person who works 5-6 shifts a week irregardless of recession or no, so that's just me.
ALSO: brush up on your skills. Learn different selling techniques, and watch girls at your club that make big bucks and emulate them, or the things that they do that you think will work. Get fit, work out, lose weight, tone up, get a new hairstyle--get on it. There is less money and more women. You've just got to step it up!
Amen!
I'm doing whatever I can to make it...it's really weird and scary out there these days...I, and most of the girls I work with, just had our worst week EVER...the only ones who did alright were the ones who got lucky.
Man, things REALLY haven't been the same since pre-9/11...the ones who worked in the '90's will know where I'm coming from.
I wonder what the gals who were in our line of work did back in The Great Depression?
I hope we've hit the bottom, and it's time to go back up.
Everybody...Good Luck and Hang in There!:goodvibes
britneyireland
05-31-2009, 06:22 PM
I agree with Black Widow...but I'm going to add an old twist to it
WORK SMARTER!
Yes, there are going to be some nights when very few people walk in the door. My wednesday night was like that. I sat around for 2 hours waiting for customers, we had our rush from 10-11:30, during which time I made decent tips, and upsold some dances. But then there was nothing else. Luckily, I UPsold the more expensive dances during the hour and a half when there were customers in the building.
We have only scraped the surface of this depression. Its only going to get worse, and like Darwin says: "only the fittest will survive"
amalya
06-01-2009, 02:28 AM
Thank you, Britney/Avalon...and I would like to add that YOU have inspired me to work smarter.
I have visited stripandgrowrich...I plan on subscribing soon to Dancer Wealth, but I have to pay some things off first...and I've started reading Napoleon Hill (the revised big book containing Think and Grow Rich, The Magic Ladder To Success, The Master Key to Riches). In addition, I've been reading How to Say It to Sell It by Sue Hershkowitz-Coore.
Even though I just started getting into reading the aforementioned, I noticed that my percentage of closed sales has gone up, regardless that it was a slow week at my club. And my attitude is better!
Thanks again, for inspriring me to realize my potential as a top earner!;)
keela
06-02-2009, 10:46 AM
I don't think we have too much longer to go on this. Too bad our president wants to give handouts to everyone who doesn't want to work for their belongings, taking away money from our clients. :-\ It really is a state of mind though. If people are afraid to spend bec/ of the buzz out there telling them it's so bad (especially that it's going to get worse?) of course they aren't going to spend like in the 90s. I havn't danced in the good times, so I'm just greatful that this hardship I've learned to dance by is teaching me to hussle the way we always should and make the most we can while we can. And whether I get to experience a boom or not, this is teaching me skills for a lifetime in how to convince people to buy, to try my best, and to experience life for its simple precious existence, rather than to have become so affluent I don't know what to do with myself if I can't have a fendi purse and DG sunglasses. Does Britney Spears seem like a happy person just bec/ she makes money? No, she's a flippin wreck! Girls, if life always gave us candy, we wouldn't know how to appreciate it. You have to eat your spinach to enjoy the sweetness of the chocolate baby.
MarvelGirl
06-02-2009, 11:09 AM
You have to eat your spinach to enjoy the sweetness of the chocolate baby.
I love that, that's a great quote.
Allie Cat
06-02-2009, 02:26 PM
Is it possible to make good money just getting starting stripping- fresh out of high school- in this economy?
Any tips/ suggestions?