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ViolaStrings
06-02-2009, 02:37 PM
It's going to be ok if you just keep shaking your ass and running your mouth. I promise.

missy873
07-01-2009, 11:02 AM
amen keela!

Melonie
07-05-2009, 01:56 PM
Is it possible to make good money just getting starting stripping- fresh out of high school- in this economy?

arguably, in this economy, a hot young dancer is likely to earn far more money than any other non-college degree job opportunity will provide. Arguably, it's also probable that a hot young dancer is likely to earn far more money than a 2 year 'trade' program or 2 year college degree job opportunity will provide. And with recent developments, the same is arguably true about 4 year degrees from 'public' colleges. See a thread on this very subject in Dollar Den.

One fact is inescapable. A girl can always quit dancing and go to college at age 30-35-40. But a college graduate can't always become a successful dancer starting at age 30-35-40 !

ViolaStrings
07-05-2009, 02:16 PM
^ Yes, but most barely legal girls don't have the foresight or discipline to work more than 2 or 3 nights a week, don't yet have the skill set to make consistent money (especially on weekdays where you need to hustle older men), and don't have the motivation to bust their asses, make money, and save it. One night stripper's income is a lot to an 18 year old! That amount of money (that they probably blow and don't save much less invest, anyways) is not good enough justification for not going to college for a short 4 years (or 3 years if you do summer classes every year!) and getting an education. What if you get in an accident and become permanently disabled at 22 and can't dance? You'll wish you had gotten an education out of the way.

I know I max out at 4 nights a week even during my summers after being a dancer for nearly 8 years. I could never be a "career" dancer because I simply cannot and will not work enough to justify not pursuing a "normal" career. I think if you're going to be a a full time dancer, you need to be working 4-5 nights a week (which is A LOT, very exhausting and all consuming), 50 weeks of the year, living like someone on an entry level salary, and investing that cash! Otherwise, you're screwing yourself because you'll have no savings, no education, and no job history.

It's awful going back to college when you're older and you want to be working full time instead of studying! I go to school 4 days a week and work 3 weekend nights! Just get it out of the way and have that degree put away for later. Take classes Monday-Thursday and work Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. That's a college degree AND the typical new stripper income. Then when you hit 22, you'll not only be educated and well spoken, but you'll have enough savings to never sweat a bad night at work or give into the pressure of doing extras AND you'll have an amazing set of sales skills. Then you'll have AT LEAST ten more years of prosperous fill time dancing ahead of you.

Basically, there's no excuse not to go to college.

Venus Doom
07-06-2009, 08:45 AM
The best thing U can do, Allie is save up and buy a duplex so U can rent out the other unit. U can always go to school and become a nurse. (That's what I did but then nursing didn't work out for me, however my investments carried me further.) And, don't waste Ur $$$/health on drugs! (Especially alcohol, meth & coke, which will run U down in the long-run.)

Otoki
07-06-2009, 01:33 PM
^ Yes, but most barely legal girls don't have the foresight or discipline to work more than 2 or 3 nights a week, don't yet have the skill set to make consistent money (especially on weekdays where you need to hustle older men), and don't have the motivation to bust their asses, make money, and save it. One night stripper's income is a lot to an 18 year old! That amount of money (that they probably blow and don't save much less invest, anyways) is not good enough justification for not going to college for a short 4 years (or 3 years if you do summer classes every year!) and getting an education. What if you get in an accident and become permanently disabled at 22 and can't dance? You'll wish you had gotten an education out of the way.

I know I max out at 4 nights a week even during my summers after being a dancer for nearly 8 years. I could never be a "career" dancer because I simply cannot and will not work enough to justify not pursuing a "normal" career. I think if you're going to be a a full time dancer, you need to be working 4-5 nights a week (which is A LOT, very exhausting and all consuming), 50 weeks of the year, living like someone on an entry level salary, and investing that cash! Otherwise, you're screwing yourself because you'll have no savings, no education, and no job history.

It's awful going back to college when you're older and you want to be working full time instead of studying! I go to school 4 days a week and work 3 weekend nights! Just get it out of the way and have that degree put away for later. Take classes Monday-Thursday and work Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. That's a college degree AND the typical new stripper income. Then when you hit 22, you'll not only be educated and well spoken, but you'll have enough savings to never sweat a bad night at work or give into the pressure of doing extras AND you'll have an amazing set of sales skills. Then you'll have AT LEAST ten more years of prosperous fill time dancing ahead of you.

Basically, there's no excuse not to go to college.
I agree with this to a point, but one stipulation:
If you don't know what you want to do in life yet, DON'T waste your money on a four year degree that you aren't passionate about. Just get your generals done (two years or less) and maybe take a few classes that interest you. If you still don't know what you want to do career-wise, work hard and save your money so when you know what degree you'll be pursuing, you can pay for it, all of your bills during the school year, and still have savings.

ViolaStrings
07-06-2009, 02:11 PM
^ good point, especially about getting a general 2 year degree out of the way.

miabella
07-06-2009, 04:08 PM
college credits don't last forever. about 90% of them expire in 4-7 years, depending on what 4-year school you ultimately finish up at. that is, they cannot be used as transfer credit past a few years. although they can be used as a mark against you in applying to a competitive school. a local highly competitive school will not admit someone who got F's 10 years ago and went back to community college and got straight A's. they require all transcripts from anywhere, ever.

the 90% is because a few things are often accepted past 10 years, like some types of english literature classes, but overall most stuff expires rapidly.

so college requires planning too, so as to avoid risk of low grades due to being overwhelmed with school and work, and so as to avoid loss of credit from waiting too long to transfer credits.

anyway, if you want a recession proof job, be an actuary. they pay for your school and you have a 60k+ job waiting after you get your degree. lot of math though, but only the one 4 year degree.

Otoki
07-07-2009, 08:05 AM
^ good point, especially about getting a general 2 year degree out of the way.
Thanks. As someone who really wishes she just got generals done before diving into a four year degree (now five years, surprise surprise) I really don't want someone else to make the same expensive mistake.

As of right now, I'm looking at graduating next spring with a degree in stuff I don't see myself using in a career. Thank goodness I have a relatively profitable job (despite my recent shitacular shifts).

black_widow
07-27-2009, 03:54 AM
Dancing in a recession SUCKS.

I am so pissed off at my parents for not having me ten years earlier! I would have loved to be 20 in 1995, and able to dance.... :(

Anyways, dealing with it? Pffftt. I have no life. All I do is fucking work work work, and while I'm at work all I do is sit sit sit, hoping that a customer will happen to walk in. And when he does, he invariably has no money and doesn't want dances. Or wants dances, but doesn't have the money and just rips me off. OR I'm too distracted entertaining myself on my phone that I don't realize he's walked in and the 12 other girls needing money have already swooped down and taken him.

The last two months have been TERRIBLE. Like, I mean HORRIBLE. I walked out with $10 tonight! I have NEVER EVER EVER made that little--EVER! And this has been happening at least once a week in the past two months! I haven't broke $600, let alone $1000 in these past couple months, and previous to this, I was hitting $1000 at least twice a month, if not more. It's just like this sudden drop off--one day, I come in and shit sucks and it's never gotten better.

I don't know why it's suddenly so bad. The recession has been going on for awhile. I don't know if maybe it's just my club or something...? Anyone else experience this???

amalya
07-28-2009, 08:01 PM
Go to a different club. Moreover, go to a small town.

I made two moves in the last 6 months. Oddly enough, when I worked high-class I was spending more time and money working, and doing my homework at odd hours...it was making me crazy.

I went back to my regulars at a blue-collar place right outside of downtown Minneapolis, and started going to another working man's bar almost 2 hours away--small town--lots of bachelor farmers with lots of money--about 6 times a month. I'm also gonna check out some other popular small-town clubs.

I don't know if I honed my hustle from the bigger, fancier club or what...but I'm making the same, and sometimes MORE at the dive-y places; house fees are a fraction of big clubs (farmer-town place PAYS us $50); AND I have more time to study cuz of shorter shifts.

Small town dudes are fascinated with city girls, even if they are a little intimidated by us at first. Especially if you're working with local girls, you will stand out. The locals will spend $$ on a girl they don't see around town everyday.

sorsi
07-29-2009, 06:29 AM
^^ true that! I work in a dive right now, and it is fantastic. Low pressure, low fees, a reasonable number of girls scheduled each night, and plenty of money.

Otoki
07-29-2009, 07:17 PM
Go to a different club. Moreover, go to a small town.

I made two moves in the last 6 months. Oddly enough, when I worked high-class I was spending more time and money working, and doing my homework at odd hours...it was making me crazy.

I went back to my regulars at a blue-collar place right outside of downtown Minneapolis, and started going to another working man's bar almost 2 hours away--small town--lots of bachelor farmers with lots of money--about 6 times a month. I'm also gonna check out some other popular small-town clubs.

I don't know if I honed my hustle from the bigger, fancier club or what...but I'm making the same, and sometimes MORE at the dive-y places; house fees are a fraction of big clubs (farmer-town place PAYS us $50); AND I have more time to study cuz of shorter shifts.

Small town dudes are fascinated with city girls, even if they are a little intimidated by us at first. Especially if you're working with local girls, you will stand out. The locals will spend $$ on a girl they don't see around town everyday.
I'm glad the move worked for you, although I'm sad to walk into work and not see you there:(

The small town places can be really awesome. Especially because they tend to have fewer girls so you don't have as much competition.

carlydc
08-29-2009, 11:45 AM
I'm thinking of movin to a smaller club also..... I am workin in dc white collar guys and we all know that they lost alot of money last year in the stock market..... with that bein said i think jumping on the small town band wagon is worth a try...... and if it doesn't work, what do you have to loose?? If anyone lives in philly.... PM me.... I have great news for you....new club in that area, one of my friends there is pullin in some good $$

strip gypsy
09-06-2009, 01:26 PM
I agree with hitting the small town clubs. All of my girlfriends who are dancing at working class clubs in little po-dunk towns seem to be making good money.

I live in Los Angeles and it seems like the well is dried up here. Girls are frantically hopping from club to club trying to find the right fit. I've been staying put because of regulars, but when the regulars don't come in, I leave with $10.

A friend of mine is writing a series for therumpus.net on recession sex work that y'all might find interesting. I was her first interview
There's also a great interview from the male dancer perspective as well. I think she's updating it every month with 10 interviews total.

victoriagivens
10-02-2009, 07:37 AM
Has anyone done it? Were you forced to work extra shifts, or take a second job? I'm curious how people dealt with it since we seem to be headed that way.

I found the need to diversify several years ago. Good thing. It is getting me through the economic downturn. There are many avenues in the exotic dancing industry.

Laurisa
10-19-2009, 11:48 AM
I'm scared my boyfriend, our child, and I are going to have to move out of the state once I start dancing in August. (I heard August is a bad month to start)...

I've heard a lot of the girls in Detroit are extras girls and I'm not going to do that under any circumstances. I would love to move to Vegas and become a professional show girl, but that isn't realistic right now.

Maybe moving to Indiana or something, he has family down there.

ViolaStrings
10-19-2009, 12:14 PM
^ professional show girls have to have long, traditional dance backgrounds, and competition is fierce while pay is low. Stick to stripping.

Laurisa
10-19-2009, 12:18 PM
Oh I know, which is why I said it was unrealistic.


Just dreaming outloud. :D

TamraOG
11-03-2009, 12:08 AM
I'm really mad about this depression. I work in Vegas and there is not enough money to go around. I don't have the patience for it anymore. I am looking for a second job. I heard Texas was good, but I'm a student so I can't travel right now. Anyone work in Manhattan? I danced there for 6 years. How is it? :'(

Vyanka
11-08-2009, 06:00 PM
I'm really mad about this depression. I work in Vegas and there is not enough money to go around. I don't have the patience for it anymore. I am looking for a second job. I heard Texas was good, but I'm a student so I can't travel right now. Anyone work in Manhattan? I danced there for 6 years. How is it? :'(


This is my opinion & experience right now...I hope I don't come off as discouraging.

I work in Manhattan & i'm dying to get the fuck out, but right now i'm stuck there. Most of the nights, it wont pick up until 5-6 hours of being in there. And when it does pick up, there are still not enough men for the large amount of girls that are in there. So, I have to work more days/hours than before. Men wont spend on the floor much these days, they rather buy you a fucking drink. ::) If they want to take you into a VIP room, they ask upfront what extra is expected. It sucks for clean girls. The only ppl surviving are the pimp hosts & whores. I feel like i'm working in a brothel instead of a strip club.

Working in an upscale/champagne bottle club isn't worth it to me anymore. If you make something, a shitload goes to the damn club.

So yeah, fuck this recession in the ass. I am feeling it now, after the summer. I'm at the point right now that I don't even want to dance anymore. I am getting small anxiety/panick attacks & I never suffer from that shit. I hate the pressure & worrying what will the night be. Never went through that.

Vyanka
11-08-2009, 06:09 PM
It seems that the small town clubs are where it's at. Can someone please PM me where there is a good small town club that is clean. ;D I'm in the NJ area, but don't want to dance in NJ. Too close to home, ya know.

starz86
11-27-2009, 11:34 AM
obviously it will be a little different but i have managed to keep it going with customers i have had since 2004. but without them it is harder since the guys are not willing to spend more than they would back in 04 and 05. it hopefully will get better next year! The men now are expecting more in the vip rooms which i will not do for them but still i get paid! im not giving me up for some loser male to make 200 when i can sit and talk and get handed the same amount. and since money is bad in the outside world there are more girls willing to do more and willing to even dance when before they would not.its so funny how NON-dancers will talk crap about dancers yet they dress like sluts at bars and will fuc* on the first date hmmm yeah lames lol

HoneyMiel
12-03-2009, 01:41 PM
This is my opinion & experience right now...I hope I don't come off as discouraging.

I work in Manhattan & i'm dying to get the fuck out, but right now i'm stuck there. Most of the nights, it wont pick up until 5-6 hours of being in there. And when it does pick up, there are still not enough men for the large amount of girls that are in there. So, I have to work more days/hours than before. Men wont spend on the floor much these days, they rather buy you a fucking drink. ::) If they want to take you into a VIP room, they ask upfront what extra is expected. It sucks for clean girls. The only ppl surviving are the pimp hosts & whores. I feel like i'm working in a brothel instead of a strip club.

Working in an upscale/champagne bottle club isn't worth it to me anymore. If you make something, a shitload goes to the damn club.

So yeah, fuck this recession in the ass. I am feeling it now, after the summer. I'm at the point right now that I don't even want to dance anymore. I am getting small anxiety/panick attacks & I never suffer from that shit. I hate the pressure & worrying what will the night be. Never went through that.

I feel ya. I work in Green Bay, Wisconsin (but I live in Indianapolis, Indiana). The club I work at is an "upscale/champagne bottle club," but Green Bay is kinda small so... Anyway, I have been up here for two and a half weeks, stuck staying with a boyfriend because I can't afford to go back without emptying my tiny savings! It's horrible. Last week I worked three days and made NOTHING!! 6 bucks on one day, negative ten bucks on a Saturday!!, and nothing the other day. To top it all off, they are hiring so many fucking sub-par, nasty ass prostitutes that the clean/cleaner girls can't make shit! Even the hustlers are suffering, except for the blonde one... I'm Black and if a blonde hustler/top earner isn't making money, it's gonna take a significant stroke of luck for me to make money. I'm pretty and thin and smart, but I am definitely not blonde so...yeah. A guy will buy you a drink before he gets a dance. Like 5 or 6 guys will come in, but "they're just watching." Ugh. I am totally panicking, and I hate myself for only thinking to save money in the past couple of months...but I'm 19!! Yeesh! The money seemed like it would be there. And I'm a pretty good hustler so...I so regret not saving when it was good a couple of months ago...

Otoki
12-03-2009, 10:29 PM
Well, I'm definitely feeling the recession now. I swear everyone from out of town who used to be well behaved now expects to be able to touch. So, not only are they huge pains in the ass, but they spend less because they don't get contact.

Great.

passion43
01-14-2010, 12:38 AM
:crazy:NYC is OVER! I'm not going back. I had a dream that I was yelling at and choking someone. I was yelling over and over again "I get my tits grabbed I do all the work and you get all the money!". The clubs are still charging insane fees and the money is awful now. You either have to get really lucky, have loyal regulars or do EXTRAS in the rooms. Even though extras have always exisisted (And I've been dancing for a while) it used to be the exception and not the rule. Clean clubs and clean dancers are out! I hear that there is still money to be made on the floor at Private Eyes and Flashdancers (but don't quote me on that) but I refuse to work at Flash for slavemasters. I'd rather work at a dive outside of the city and keep my piece of mind, or do telemarketing. I have no more energy for this crap.

msincredible01
01-26-2010, 07:47 PM
Horribly crappy. The club i work at regularly is an upscale club and it SUCKS. A couple of my friends and I have tried out this really creepy little dirt hole of a place and amazingly enough we made great money. The money is really consistant at the smaller, local "dives" but in this place...extras and sex run rampant. Literally...girls giving blow jobs in the lap dance room...for 20 bucks. its all out in the open...ofcourse guys expected the same from us which is why i couldn't handle more than 2 nights there. Insane extra's but good money.

Even in this recession...i'm not willing to contradict my dancer morals for the money. I just won't do it.

msincredible01
01-26-2010, 07:55 PM
I just think that no matter how bad it gets, keep to your original standards. Hustler smarter not harder.

xodelilahxo
02-02-2010, 09:26 PM
Everyone is talking about small towns...and i've heard a few good things about texas not only is their economy one of the best but its cheap to live there. anyone dance in austin?? or what other small towns would be good in texas? im moving before summer.

loren
04-08-2010, 02:54 AM
One fact is inescapable. A girl can always quit dancing and go to college at age 30-35-40. But a college graduate can't always become a successful dancer starting at age 30-35-40 !
I love your posts. :D

Not to say that things are good now for dancing, but things are bad for a lot of jobs right now. I think that people in all jobs need to show confidence and not let anyone take advantage. It's like standing up to the school yard bully.

I think dancers just need to fake it to make it. Pretend like everything is ok to the custys. The more dancers who pretend like things are fine, the less guys will try to take advantage of a bunch of "desparate strippers" and they will be more likely to spend.

I also am seeing more people from all types of jobs starting to stand up for their rights. A good example would be the coal miners. After that tragic accident people are starting to say no to super rich greedy owners who think it does not matter if their employees die.

Just recently the maids at the Wynn in Las Vegas decided to stand up for themselves too. It made me realize how important it is for Americans to help all people to stand up for themselves. Because if the employers realize that they can't take advantage of anyone - even foreigners- that means better job opportunities for everyone.

JRdancer
04-08-2010, 04:08 AM
^I agree with you Loren. Women have a long history of not asking for the money they should and will often times allow their wages to be reduced for fear of losing the job they have. And that only makes things worse. (This is from what I've seen in the regular workforce.)

As far as the clubs go, I must have at least 5 customers a night comment on the slowness of the club, but I always spin things into a positive light, which ends that conversation pretty quickly...and onto talking about doing dances. Complaining about your finances or the club is NOT sexy and dancers who do this are only hurting themselves.

QFT:

The more dancers who pretend like things are fine, the less guys will try to take advantage of a bunch of "desparate strippers" and they will be more likely to spend.

Otoki
04-12-2010, 01:56 PM
^I agree with you Loren. Women have a long history of not asking for the money they should and will often times allow their wages to be reduced for fear of losing the job they have. And that only makes things worse. (This is from what I've seen in the regular workforce.)

As far as the clubs go, I must have at least 5 customers a night comment on the slowness of the club, but I always spin things into a positive light, which ends that conversation pretty quickly...and onto talking about doing dances. Complaining about your finances or the club is NOT sexy and dancers who do this are only hurting themselves.

QFT:

I agree. Girls have been staying positive to customers, and now we barely ever hear anything about the recession or the economy in the club. At least, my friends and I don't:D

femmefatale88
04-16-2010, 01:37 AM
Money has been rreally good in my club

Simone NinaNin
04-16-2010, 10:19 AM
Money has been rreally good in my club
At my club too! 8)

MistyDoll
04-17-2010, 10:24 AM
Its not as bad as some think. I didnt dance before this financial thing so Im not sure it was like but the 3 clubs Ive worked at are all busy all the time!

On a bad night I make 300 and I dont remember ever making less than 250 but right now Im averaging 500-600 but I do make more webcamming.

rihannsu
04-17-2010, 08:08 PM
Its not as bad as some think. I didnt dance before this financial thing so Im not sure it was like but the 3 clubs Ive worked at are all busy all the time!

On a bad night I make 300 and I dont remember ever making less than 250 but right now Im averaging 500-600 but I do make more webcamming.

That's really good. Are you getting most of that from regulars or from good old fashioned hustling?

Kylea2
04-17-2010, 08:29 PM
^^^ I believe she's working at Diamond... which has always been the top club in Denver for money. Dancers there always average higher that the local average.

rihannsu
04-18-2010, 04:43 AM
Ah, I see.

CherryBomb954
05-04-2010, 12:50 AM
I have had alot of customers try to talk about the recession..... and I just won't allow it. I immediately change the subject. If I let myself start to think about my own problems, it will ruin my night, so I just don't allow my brain to go there. When I am at work.....there is no recession, I do not need to make money, and I am not broke saving for a car and new place to live.

I have had a crap ton of guys ask about what kind of money I am making, what the business at the club has been like, etc....I immediately say something silly or totally off topic, or start breathing in their ear, whatever....anything to not get on the recession hampster wheel. I am so suck of focusing on negative stuff it's not even funny......

TamraOG
05-07-2010, 06:27 PM
just burt out a club. went from making 350 to negative 40. back to the drawing board. going to a club with no housefees.

TamraOG
05-07-2010, 06:29 PM
creepy little dirt hole...I'll keep that in mind.

joyount
06-09-2010, 05:09 AM
^^Yeah, sorry, definitely no boom here. The "sin tax" didn't seem to hurt clubs around here as much as expected, and has been overturned, but will probably come back up next legislative session. :-\

I haven't worked in a few weeks, so I don't know how things are at the club at this exact moment, but we muddled through the spring OK. You definitely need to have your hustle down these days.
yeah great thanks for sharing.,.,great .,.,

TurboHips
06-18-2010, 06:06 AM
I'm at my 4th club now and it's hell trying to break even after tip out

crystalize
06-18-2010, 12:37 PM
yeah, for some reason tip outs and house fees make me anxious to make that ack (and more of course) so that I get in a bad mood... But I know the clubs here with higher house and all that are doing okay

sunshine16
06-26-2010, 08:06 PM
I have had alot of customers try to talk about the recession..... and I just won't allow it. I immediately change the subject. If I let myself start to think about my own problems, it will ruin my night, so I just don't allow my brain to go there. When I am at work.....there is no recession, I do not need to make money, and I am not broke saving for a car and new place to live.

I have had a crap ton of guys ask about what kind of money I am making, what the business at the club has been like, etc....I immediately say something silly or totally off topic, or start breathing in their ear, whatever....anything to not get on the recession hampster wheel. I am so suck of focusing on negative stuff it's not even funny......

This is SO true..I hear all the time about how business is slow for them, or they're struggling..or whatever. What can you say to get them out of the "well im not making money so im not spending money" thing, change the mood, etc..I find myself falling in the same pattern but I'm just not sure how to make them move on..they just blab away (i work day shift, and its been really slow)..ick.

**Sincerely**
06-28-2010, 05:23 PM
It's bad out here to the fact that lapdnace's are now $20.00 like wtf then u have house fees and other shit to pay for and the customers are the worst of the all and the chicks that work with u and cock block all day dont make it no better

bambiblue
07-26-2010, 11:53 PM
Well last week was my absolute WORST in over 6 years of dancing... tues made 18 after tipout... wednesday made 2 dollars after tipout, and haven't been able to pull myself out of my slump to try again. I have seriously just had it!!! I wish I could say some of my other days this month made up for it, but nope!!! There are literally 25 girls taking up space and sitting alone all day long.. a few of the very nasty girls are always in the VIP, and the clean girls...which I happen to be... might as well just forget it.... Everyone does extras, and i constantly feel like I'm working in a whore house not a strip club... and mostly I just feel like unless I am willing to sacrifice ALL my morals, I'm not gonna make ANY $$$. I don't wanna dance anymore!!! I have sucked up all I can take, and it's starting to weigh on my self esteem, and nothing is worth being this unhappy over. Luckily I have everything paid off, and am in school and was smart enough to have a back up plan, but I still have KIDS to feed!!! The customers dont have any respect for the girls, and rarely do they even get off their asses to come to the stage to tip ..ANYONE!!! It's just pathetic... and then 3 girls to every 1 customer... basically it's just bullshit all the way around... and now that they passed a non smoking law in this state, I'm about to lose my marbles!!

**Sincerely**
07-29-2010, 12:06 AM
THE RECESSION IS CRAZY .$$$$ IS SO SLOW ,LAPDANCES HAVE GONE DOWN,AND THE CUSTOMERS THINK WE ARE CHICKS FROM THE INTERNET.iF U WANNA CHEAP CHICK LOG ON TOO WWWW. ___________________.COM U KNOW HE REST.

sonora
07-29-2010, 01:30 PM
Bambiblue, if you don't mind me asking.. in what city are you working?

Kellie
08-24-2010, 04:37 PM
I've actually gone back to dancing and my industry BECAUSE of the mess. At least I do make something, rather than applying for other ersatz jobs I am not qualified for. But generally speaking the green in stripping is not "what it used to be", quite true in most clubs I have personally danced at.:-\