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Noelle_Noir
06-27-2013, 05:17 PM
I only dance at CG and SV right now. Might check out Body Shop soon. Will let you know. :/
I worked at the Body Shop,Spermint Rhino,body shop was good,the whole booth thing through me off though.Were I am from its really different.
Nina_
06-27-2013, 05:24 PM
I've only danced in LA, mostly in Hollywood... So I have nothing to compare it to but there has GOT to be somewhere better. There could be 20 guys at the tip rail, staring and a girl will make maybe 5$ for a 2 song set. I work at a bikini bar for the first half of the night (7-2am) and then go to a fully nude (until 4 or 5 am) and sometimes I will make less than 100$ on slow nights. At the bikini bar, it's legal to drink so customers mostly come to drink/watch the dancers and girls hardly get tipped during happy hour. The full nude club is where guys expect extras and are rude as fuck. I'm not a super insane hustler but I know I should be making more for the work I put in. Basically, you don't make much unless you have a good regular or offer extras. And with all the Russians at the clubs doing more than I'm willing to, it's hard to even pull a couple hundred. I'm moving to Detroit to be with my boyfriend early next year. Crazy to see that even Detroit does better than LA.... If anyone has suggestions for clubs there, please, let me know. I'm new here, so I have yet to browse a majority of the forum.
I average about $500-600 in Detroit. Not many other clean dancers make that much though. You REALLY have to hustle, there are tons of extras girls. Do you have any clubs in mind? I could give you some info if you have a specific club or area in mind. There's lots of clubs in metro Detroit.
xxxGothBarbie
06-28-2013, 01:32 PM
I pulled up too that place and kept right on driving,what a shit hole.My friend could not get a job at the Rhino or any place on the strip...she was trapped into working at the veil.Nightmare!
when did she work at the veil?? I am much happier since I left that divey shit hole. I made great money but ugh I couldn't stomach all the shit that came with working there. They had THE worst managment ever, they took half your $$ , and the DJ's liked to play favorites with the dancers and would only put up the girls he liked...It was a nightmare no doubt! LOL
Starling
07-11-2013, 02:44 PM
Why is everyone so negative. I think Tampa, Texas and Las Vegas is amazing to work at.
Even though your experience is different, it won't be the same for others. If your experience in one state is good, it may not be a good fit for someone else. Since SW is a support group I think everyone is entitled to their opinions. Also some areas probably do just suck depending on the season, the local economy, or other factors.
edenmichelle
07-30-2013, 11:30 AM
i completely agree with you, people out of town will try to get away with much more, than in their home state.
michele11
07-30-2013, 03:01 PM
^ That's absolutely not true! I've worked in 42 clubs all over the u.s. and the asshole locals know what girls do what and if the clubs a whore house. Out of state guys spend more and most likely don't know the rules. I hate clubs with local yocals( I just worked in one and was assaulted more at that club by local fucks) than anywhere. Aslo why I don't work local( tampa) cuz those douche bags now what's up and expect the world!
Selina M
08-01-2013, 12:31 PM
Why is everyone so negative. I think Tampa, Texas and Las Vegas is amazing to work at. .
We're not complaining necessarily, we're just stating that the money sucks in so and so place right now, and some of us are stuck in those places due to school or family or spouse's jobs. You can be the best hustler in the world but if you have to work in a club that's dead, with 10 customers through the door all night and 20 other girls to compete with, you're not going to take a grand home unless you get a whale by luck.
edenmichelle
08-01-2013, 03:10 PM
yeah that is true michelle, but ive had a lot of guys claim ignorance (especially guys from houston) because they were out of towners. but ive also had a really good regular from california. but i think he was an exception. I have only worked in tx because I was a full time student so i couldn't really travel and stuff. but my i know girls that have worked in vegas and said tx is much better. but again i wouldn't know.
tuesdaymarie
08-01-2013, 03:26 PM
^Lol, that's because Houston guys are used to getting a blowjob for $40.
Aw... I'm depressed now because it's so true. Fuck going into work tonight. Netflix, here I come!
michele11
08-01-2013, 03:52 PM
^ That's funny! Houston guys are my best when I work in Denver, Nola and me and another stripperwebber had one give us 4500 each in M.B. I have asked and most don't go to the clubs there and some do though...
Starling
08-01-2013, 03:59 PM
Yeah I've seen both instances.
Like what Michelle said, there are a couple of clubs in my area which I feel like checking out, but I haven't been motivated to go down and audition yet since I know the local guys are going to expect a ton of contact, or want $40 blowjob or something. This is what I normally notice which leads to my preference for bigger, higher volume clubs with less locals.
On the flip side I've seen the reverse happen, but not as often. I remember working at a low contact (on floor) club and some guy from Illinois came in and was expecting whatever he got in Illinois, but was sorely disappointed and left early. Once in a while I'll run into guys that, because they are away from anyone who might see them will ask if I do extras.
I did notice that if a guy is from a certain city, he will sometimes expect what he got in that city. Florida guys usually give me a reason to run away.
charlotte.
08-02-2013, 01:05 AM
^ That's funny! Houston guys are my best when I work in Denver, Nola and me and another stripperwebber had one give us 4500 each in M.B. I have asked and most don't go to the clubs there and some do though...
ya ive had great customers from all over when they are tourists. like when I worked in nyc, I made $ but at times it was mentally draining, a lot of locals were professional bs artists, wanted to assert dominance all the time, take forever sitting and drinking, even when they ended up spending big. but all of my customers that are tourists from nyc are the easiest ever, im talking just walk up to me and ask if we can go do an hr or if I introduce myself they immediately get me a glass of expensive champagne before recommending that we go off to vip asap.
also I think that locals are always on their local budget whereas tourists may have set aside $4k or whatever for their vacation that theyve been planning for awhile so even if they blow $2k their first night at a strip club they are still within their budget and it doesn't feel like so much of a burn.
arielbriel
08-02-2013, 02:00 AM
In NYC, they expect you to sit and chat for free for as long as they want to before they are ready to go to VIP. It kind of sucks but sometimes it's worth it.
I'd imagine the tourists from NYC are ready to go quickly because they know they are getting a steal on a room compared to the prices in NYC.
edenmichelle
08-02-2013, 07:03 AM
yeah i know, ive heard houston is bad when it comes to turning tricks.
arielbriel
08-02-2013, 01:12 PM
Selina M, even in Vegas if you are getting rooms and/or getting hooked up by the hosts, I dont see how its NOT possible to make a grand in the dead of summer.
charlotte.
08-02-2013, 01:59 PM
Selina M, even in Vegas if you are getting rooms and/or getting hooked up by the hosts, I dont see how its NOT possible to make a grand in the dead of summer.
thank you! of course vegas has ups and downs and it may take awhile to establish yourself at the right club and get a routine going but vegas does not belong on this list. it is not "dead" here hahahha its fucking vegas its always packed! yes, I am well aware of some girls struggling to make house but they are all ugly, old, fat, or alcoholics. making house has never been an issue for me and this summer has been pretty good, plenty of $1000+ nights. maybe some girls on this thread came here and werent cut out from it but that is them, there is no way that vegas is one of the "worst" lol I think its the best
michele11
08-02-2013, 02:55 PM
Exactly! I had a 1400 and a 1200 night last week in a club that's pretty dead all night until 2 am and in a small area outside st. Louis!
Starling
08-02-2013, 03:43 PM
Thanks ladies, I was always confused as to why Vegas was considered a bad place to dance. Everyone that I've met that worked in Vegas never had complaints about dancing there. I met one person who said that it wasn't good because there were too many girls, but it's probably because it's not her hustle style there.
Selina M
08-02-2013, 04:46 PM
Thanks ladies, I was always confused as to why Vegas was considered a bad place to dance. Everyone that I've met that worked in Vegas never had complaints about dancing there. I met one person who said that it wasn't good because there were too many girls, but it's probably because it's not her hustle style there.
I was saying that in the summer it sucks apparently - I used Vegas as the example because that's where most of us AZ people think of fleeing to, but I have been advised repeatedly on SW that it's pointless from May to October. I'm sure it IS possible to make that much if you're getting hooked up by the hosts - I also forgot that the rooms there are tres pricey... been stuck in this shithole of cheapness too long.
But my point was that tina makes it out like she can waltz into any old club and make tons of money regardless of other variables and that it's the girl's fault if she doesn't. I'm sure there is always an exception and a girl like michelle who has a 1k night a few times a month even in the deadest of dead clubs, but again there are definitely some variables and luck involved along with hustle skills.
charlotte.
08-02-2013, 05:16 PM
I was saying that in the summer it sucks apparently - I used Vegas as the example because that's where most of us AZ people think of fleeing to, but I have been advised repeatedly on SW that it's pointless from May to October. I'm sure it IS possible to make that much if you're getting hooked up by the hosts - I also forgot that the rooms there are tres pricey... been stuck in this shithole of cheapness too long.
But my point was that tina makes it out like she can waltz into any old club and make tons of money regardless of other variables and that it's the girl's fault if she doesn't. I'm sure there is always an exception and a girl like michelle who has a 1k night a few times a month even in the deadest of dead clubs, but again there are definitely some variables and luck involved along with hustle skills.
I think what she was saying was that some of these cities don't belong on this list. I can believe that its hard to do well in a place with no vip, $10 dances, a 50% cut etc but if you really think that of all places lv or nyc or dallas is the absolute worst than you are lying or severely not cut out for this job. if you are consistently not making $$ in lv then yes, it is your fault.
michele11
08-02-2013, 06:25 PM
I was saying that in the summer it sucks apparently - I used Vegas as the example because that's where most of us AZ people think of fleeing to, but I have been advised repeatedly on SW that it's pointless from May to October. I'm sure it IS possible to make that much if you're getting hooked up by the hosts - I also forgot that the rooms there are tres pricey... been stuck in this shithole of cheapness too long.
But my point was that tina makes it out like she can waltz into any old club and make tons of money regardless of other variables and that it's the girl's fault if she doesn't. I'm sure there is always an exception and a girl like michelle who has a 1k night a few times a month even in the deadest of dead clubs, but again there are definitely some variables and luck involved along with hustle skills.
I travel for work so I only work about 100 shifts a year. If I go somewhere 7-10 days I usually have at least 3-4 thousand dollar shifts. If I work 8-9 shifts I usually average overall around 800 a shift sometimes more but I only travel to places when there's events, conventions, big things going on and I'm a top earner. Not every girl I travel with does as well....
Starling
08-02-2013, 07:05 PM
I was saying that in the summer it sucks apparently - I used Vegas as the example because that's where most of us AZ people think of fleeing to, but I have been advised repeatedly on SW that it's pointless from May to October. I'm sure it IS possible to make that much if you're getting hooked up by the hosts - I also forgot that the rooms there are tres pricey... been stuck in this shithole of cheapness too long.
But my point was that tina makes it out like she can waltz into any old club and make tons of money regardless of other variables and that it's the girl's fault if she doesn't. I'm sure there is always an exception and a girl like michelle who has a 1k night a few times a month even in the deadest of dead clubs, but again there are definitely some variables and luck involved along with hustle skills.
Oh I wasn't replying to anything you said about Vegas, just saying in general. I want to make a trip out there at some point and I've read many old threads to prepare, but a lot of people said how Vegas was a bad place for dancers because of things like oversaturation, etc. I was really surprised to see a lot of comments saying how Vegas isn't a good place to dance.
xxxGothBarbie
08-02-2013, 08:12 PM
I wasn't a fan of it bc of the oversaturation of girls out there. I like smaller places
Selina M
08-03-2013, 03:22 PM
I agree that if you think LV or NYC is a bad place you probably don't have a clue. And a lot of this is all subjective - the people in those places saying it sucks may be accustomed to 1k and 400 is terrible to them, whilst that 400 may be fantastic to someone else.
michele11
08-03-2013, 04:08 PM
That's so true! I've told girls not to bother with reno and when I told them what I made they said that was good to them. It's all what your use to and for traveling I expect a certain amount.
^^ WORD, michelle. I expect 1000$ plus nights when traveling otherwise I am not into it and its not worth it, I can stay where I am at...
michele11
08-04-2013, 10:01 AM
^^ WORD, michelle. I expect 1000$ plus nights when traveling otherwise I am not into it and its not worth it, I can stay where I am at...
That's right hoe! JK! Lol. Did you get my text?
CelinaMarie
08-05-2013, 11:39 PM
Why is LA so bad? Read that a lot on here. Any clubs in particular?
I want to start dancing and I live in LA..
Starling
08-06-2013, 11:25 AM
Why is LA so bad? Read that a lot on here. Any clubs in particular?
I want to start dancing and I live in LA..
I don't live in LA, but I've read the money is just really bad there. I met a girl who also lived in LA and she said one day she took a chance and drove to Vegas for a weekend to work. Then she just ended up working in Vegas on the weekends instead of dancing in LA at all.
Selina M
08-06-2013, 11:38 AM
Why is LA so bad? Read that a lot on here. Any clubs in particular?
I want to start dancing and I live in LA..
Ask GothBarbie, she lives there. She has said it's just extras-laden and full of extremely cheap men.
CelinaMarie
08-06-2013, 12:24 PM
My ex always goes to clubs here in LA. Hence ex. I always wondered if he was getting extras. He said he wasn't but I know that he tries to talk girls into going home with him or even date them for a while then dump them. He gets a thrill out of it, seducing the professional seducer he said. He claims he has slept with every stripper in town, so LA ladies better whatch out for that freak...
Tsepmet1
08-06-2013, 01:07 PM
Eh, I'm going to disagree. I've passed the $1k mark one of the four shifts I've worked in Canton, Ohio but I don't see how any girl could do it consistently. Yes, hustle and attitude are a lot of it, but there's just not the potential in some areas for consistent $1k nights.
I feel like this thread is more about venting than anything, so just let the nice ladies here vent their frustrations and move on. :)
michele11
08-06-2013, 04:26 PM
I'm a top earner as well but there are still areas in the U.S. that 1000 a shift are not possible. Reno being one and certain areas in New England. I travel for events, conventions and golf season and I use to own a car dealership and have had sales jobs other than dancing( where I was top producer) many times a week but I don't make 1000 every single night. I have nights I make way more during trips but have a 400 night here and there even during events, etc.
sonora
08-06-2013, 07:23 PM
thank you! of course vegas has ups and downs and it may take awhile to establish yourself at the right club and get a routine going but vegas does not belong on this list. it is not "dead" here hahahha its fucking vegas its always packed! yes, I am well aware of some girls struggling to make house but they are all ugly, old, fat, or alcoholics. making house has never been an issue for me and this summer has been pretty good, plenty of $1000+ nights. maybe some girls on this thread came here and werent cut out from it but that is them, there is no way that vegas is one of the "worst" lol I think its the best
They hire old, ugly and fat chicks in Vegas? Hmmm, are we talking about nice strip clubs, dives or whore houses?
michele11
08-07-2013, 08:33 AM
I agree with you. Either the girls are hot or have a hard hustle or they walk home complaining. Also some can be discourage about how many girls and how pretty most of the girls are. The best sticks with the best. It was a Monday last night. Kind of dead. I still walked away with a grand and so did my friend :) yay ! I'm glad you're doing we'll too. It's def. about sticking it out and keeping it going.
At mons venus in aug. lol....
sincity55
08-16-2013, 01:17 PM
Anywhere in Miami lol! I'm sure there are a few clean clubs here and there but the ones I visited (just for fun as a customer) were extremely.....liberal with......morals? lol
Starling
10-14-2014, 08:44 PM
Upstate New York,mainly the Utica area.This place blows.
I can imagine. I went on a little road trip out there last year and it looked as though central NY got hit hard by the economy.
I thought this was a good thread and I'm rezzing it. To quote my previous response in this thread...
I'm going to add Syracuse NY and Rochester NY to the list. If you're a serious dancer who wants to make real money, don't waste your time in these cities. The clubs are small for the most part and there are no upscale clubs to speak of. With the exception of a couple clubs, their websites look like they haven't been updated since the days of Geocities, the clubs are slow and/or customers expect so much for so little money, and the clubs take ~half of all your money, dances and rooms. It doesn't matter if you're really hot, you're not going to make a lot even on a weekend. Definitely take the I-81 or I-87 south of NY state.
KaraLynn
10-14-2014, 09:22 PM
I have to second Miami and Los Angeles! Awful Awful Awful!
Also, there are some smaller places like Lawrence Kansas that were bad.
Aniela
10-14-2014, 09:28 PM
Don't know if it's been mentioned already but I nominate Daytona. It is the one place I have worked that I strongly steer girls away from, & one of the places that makes me cringe inside when a customer tells me he's from there.
Chicago sucks! Tip out is crazy high first, then they take a chunk out of each dance/vip, then u pay a % on the rest of your $$ left after that, ugh. Also, customers try to pull out dicks and expect sex,etc in vip.
Also, City of industry right outside of LA is horrible horrible horrible. Customers expect to have sex for the price of a dance and are offended if you don't do it, literally offended!
Chicago sucks! Tip out is crazy high first, then they take a chunk out of each dance/vip, then u pay a % on the rest of your $$ left after that, ugh. Also, customers try to pull out dicks and expect sex,etc in vip.
Also, City of industry right outside of LA is horrible horrible horrible. Customers expect to have sex for the price of a dance and are offended if you don't do it, literally offended!
whirlerz
10-15-2014, 08:27 AM
[QUOTE=ava$;2684888]Chicago sucks! Tip out is crazy high first, then they take a chunk out of each dance/vip, then u pay a % on the rest of your $$ left after that, ugh. Also, customers try to pull out dicks and expect sex,etc in vip.
/QUOTE]:yes::yikes:
SweetJulia
10-15-2014, 08:42 AM
Unfortunately, most places in Ohio suck these days.
whirlerz
10-15-2014, 08:55 AM
Unfortunately, most places in Ohio suck these days.
I think the Midwest kinda blows in general? & not just for stripping..
Starling
10-15-2014, 03:57 PM
I think the Midwest kinda blows in general? & not just for stripping..
That's a shame, I do like some parts of the midwest. I also liked Chicago, but have heard of the insanely high fees and cuts. It's a shame really, it's a nice city.
tempest666
10-15-2014, 05:53 PM
Atlantic City. >:(
Jay12
10-15-2014, 07:25 PM
Southeast Virginia/Hampton Roads area.
Nina_
10-15-2014, 08:57 PM
My best friend works regularly in Chi now. Week days seem to suck but she's doing very well on weeekends. She worked with me in Detroit for a while before she worked in Chi. She loves how the girls she works with aren't all extras girls and how the customers generally expect less. It doesn't seem very high contact where she works. I worked there too, and the money was good, guys didn't seem too grabby. There are much worse places imo. Detroit is AWFUL.
Edited: oops, meant she's doing well on weekends*
Prettyglitter
10-15-2014, 09:44 PM
Columbus, GA?
MiraMichele
10-16-2014, 10:12 AM
Worst city ever to dance in - Honolulu by FAR.