Log in

View Full Version : I'm suing my mother



Pages : 1 [2]

Peanut_Butter
06-12-2008, 04:46 PM
I will not be bringing up my stripper status. She may try to use that against me in court...but she has the long police record, my record is clean.

I agree about the suing now, that was jus my first thought...although I still may sue for damages to my credit, not for the actual bill. I can just proove that it isn't mine and have it removed.

A problem I am running into is prooving my address at that time. it was for right before I moved to Vegas and right after. I can proove the right after, cause I have my vegas lease. But right before I moved here, I stayed with my boyfriend. His father is getting me a notarized letter sayign I lived there, but I called the cable company and they said that isnt good enough, I need better proof like a utility bill or somethign, and I dont have anythign like that.
The cable company didnt mention anythign abotu a fraud afidavit either, they just said send us proof that you didt live there. And I am having a hard time with that proof as I said I lived with my boyfriend at the time.
There are 3 months of bills, starting march 2004, ending in may 2004. I mmoved to Vegas april 2004. So I need proof of wher ei lived in march....and I really have no proof. I was a stripper, and my strip club didnt have my address or even a copyof my lisence. So I cant proove that way, and I wouldnt want to, liek I said, I'll leave strippign out of this if I can.

The icing on the cake?
My mother left me a mice mesage today sayign she is counter suing me....for $2,500...she gave me a gift of $1500, and she's going to try to sue me for $2,500. ( she exaggerated the amount) I said good luck, LMAO. You cant ask for a gift back. ::)
She also said that her public defender told her that I have no case and she's not reposinsible. I said listen to me, be rational for a minute here.
" I lived in Las vegas. I have proof. You lived int hat apartment, I have proof." There was cable there in my name when I can proove I lived in Nevada." Do you see the rationale here?
She said, well, you got cabe there anyway. " Mom. Listen to me. Why in gods name would i get cable for an apartment in a state on the other coast??"
The woman seriously lacks all logic.

I'll get this resolved.


As for my cats....We had 2 Chow Chows, that loved to kill and eat my cats. My ats stayed outdoors, and the chows indoors. But my mother let them run loose every night...and in the mornings, I would wake up to dead cats outside. She said the cats shoudl hide betetr at night cause the dogs needed exercise.

I had a calico cat, and my mother let me have 1 litter of kittens. She had 6 babies. I kept all the babies, and we had them all spayed, including their mother. I also had 1 other cat. ( we lived on a farm) So I had 8 cats total.
Out of my 6 kittens, only 1 lived to see a a year old. the rest got eaten. So I had 1 baby, the mom and my other cat. She took all 3 of them to the humane society and had them put to sleep. Why? i dont know. She wouldnt tell me. She did say that it wasn't fair to put them in a cage, so put to sleep was better for them than leavin gthem in a cage while they try to get a home.

Then she let me get other cats...but same process repeated. After thoes all died, I stopped getting cats. I tried to have a few dogs...I had a dalmation, but my brother sort of abused him and he got mean so he was put to sleep as well. My brother locked him in the closet and bet on the closet fdoor to scare him...and it made him aggressive, and he eventually bit a child, so he had to be put down.
My mother also got me a horse...but we got rid of her as well.
So that's the story on my animals.

The story on my uncle... was 14, he didnt actually molest me, he exposed himself and asked me to suck his dick. I ran away. I told my mom, who wanted to press charges, but my aunt didnt allow her. Cant do that to family. years later, he had a daughter, and when she was 5 yers old...she had "stuff" on her panites and my uncle went to court for that. His ex wife pressed charges on him. I testified against him in court. my family didnt speak to me for a long time abotu that. How dare I testify against him? He didnt actualyl do anythign to me....


So that's my family in a nutshell. Long story short...my family sucks. But this is the last straw.

Paintbaby
06-12-2008, 05:10 PM
Jesus Christ, P_B. My heartfelt condolences about the toxic environment you had to suffer while you were growing up, and the bullshit your egg-donor continues to inflict upon you. Clearly, your mother is mentally ill. But she is still a grown-ass woman who continues to make choices that hurt you. Once this matter is resolved, cut all ties. Blood ties do not always demand or deserve the privlege of contact between family members--especially when doing so puts your own inner environment and peacefulness at risk.

We don't get to choose our families--but as adults, we DO get to choose whether or not we continue to have anything to do with them. You owe these people absolutely nothing. Not a goddamned thing. And what they should have given you (safety, security, a sense of well-being) was never given, so there you go.

Look ahead to your future-- that road is wide open with the potential for happiness and peacefulness, and free of this toxic crap. You deserve this. Keep that vision pure, and consider these freaks dead to you.

Good luck in your lawsuit. I hope that crazy bitch gets what is coming to her.

Casey4Now
06-12-2008, 05:41 PM
I did not review all replies, however I work in the legal field. No need to sue, all you need to do is call the company(s) and tell them it was NOT you. They will instruct you to file a police report and they will handle the rest. Yes you SHOULD name your MOTHER as the person that used your name. They will take care of prosecuting her and will remove it off your credit report.

I am sorry if this advice has already been doled out. I am truely sorry you are going thru this now, just when you are trying to get all the pieces together to move on and do the things that make you happy. HUGS!

pm if you need more info. I am not in NV but should be able to look it up.

Aubreyyy
06-12-2008, 05:46 PM
Congrats on getting the FUCK AWAY from all of that.

Why in the world would you be loyal to a family that has shown no loyalty to YOU?

CKXXX
06-12-2008, 06:45 PM
Jesus.It really is a testament to how wonderfully strong you are that you turned out such an honest and loving person after growing up in THAT.

Talk to an attorney as well about getting a restraining order or whatever you need to keep her the hell away from you. Change your phone number.She does not exist to you after this. You dont need someone like that in your life...blood or not. Fuck her.

When you lived with your bf ...did you have any Credit cards? ANY mail that came addressed to you at that house?What about phone records? Anyone call you or you call anyone while you were there? There are a lot of ways to prove you lioved somewhere. A good lawyer will find a way.

If you need to talk..I'm here for you hon.

StarryEyes
06-12-2008, 10:05 PM
PB I'm so sorry. That is seriously, seriously fucked up. I come from a family of crackpots too so I know exactly how you feel. All I can say is stay strong, and do what you have to do to take care of and protect yourself and keep those people out of your life. Don't let them get away with anything.

You deserve all good things, and when you move I'd consider a name change and perhaps a SS# change if you are somehow able to do that. Cut ties completely.

I wish you all the happiness, because with all you've been through, you were still able to come through as a sweet, strong woman with a good heart.

:hug:

StarryEyes
06-12-2008, 10:09 PM
And I hope that crazy ass bitch of a "mother" gets what is coming to her. Fuck her.

Peanut_Butter
06-12-2008, 10:17 PM
I filed my police report. They asked me if I wanted to prosecute and I said yes. I didn't know that this was a felony charge.
They said that they didnt even need copy's of my addersses, that I probably had enough proof already, espicially after they see her existing record. They said if they need futher documentation, they will be in contact with me, but it should be ok as it is. They said that the police report should be enough to get it removed from my credit, but even if it isn't, I can furnish documents to proove I didn't live there along with the police report. I am going to mail a letter to the cable company tomorrow to get it removed.

Yes, after this she is dead to me....and I will also lose the rest of my family as well, they will take her side. Espicialyl after she tells them I'm a whore on drugs, as she has before. Oh well. I'm on my own.

The police were very helpful and sympathetic to my situation. As I said, i have also filed complaints and reports with the FTC and FBI, so I guess I have all my bases covered, now just have to wait.
I hope I don't have to fly home to get this finished, cause I dont want to and can't pay for it anyway....if they require me to fly back, can I get reimbursed for travel expences?

StarryEyes
06-12-2008, 11:09 PM
Yes, after this she is dead to me....and I will also lose the rest of my family as well, they will take her side. Espicialyl after she tells them I'm a whore on drugs, as she has before. Oh well. I'm on my own.

And you'll be a lot better off for it.

I would also think about changing your info/identity so that they cannot track you down. Not saying that they would retaliate, but it would be a good thing to do anyway.

Peanut_Butter
06-12-2008, 11:24 PM
^ I think I just might. I actually can get a new social security number, I just checked. I have to provide proof that it needs to be done in order to protect further theft, so they may or may not approve the change, bt I think I will try I also think I will get a new last name. I like my first name. I dont want to change that.

i think i will do all that when I move in a few months. New life, new social, new name...totally fresh start!

One draw back: I lose my credit history. Even though my credit is bad....I will lose all my history and start over completly fresh. So I will have to build up a whol enew file and won't have years of credit reporting history....uless I can notify the credit bureau's and have them transfer my info....somehow. I'm not to sure abotu the logistics of all this yet, I just started looking...but I thinkI definatly will look into it further.

StarryEyes
06-12-2008, 11:46 PM
i think i will do all that when I move in a few months. New life, new social, new name...totally fresh start!

I think this is going to be great for you. It's like you are shedding all the negativity of your past and giving yourself a new life and a new start. This is going to be great for you!!

seraya
06-13-2008, 12:01 AM
I filed my police report. They asked me if I wanted to prosecute and I said yes. I didn't know that this was a felony charge.
They said that they didnt even need copy's of my addersses, that I probably had enough proof already, espicially after they see her existing record. They said if they need futher documentation, they will be in contact with me, but it should be ok as it is. They said that the police report should be enough to get it removed from my credit, but even if it isn't, I can furnish documents to proove I didn't live there along with the police report. I am going to mail a letter to the cable company tomorrow to get it removed.

Yes, after this she is dead to me....and I will also lose the rest of my family as well, they will take her side. Espicialyl after she tells them I'm a whore on drugs, as she has before. Oh well. I'm on my own.

The police were very helpful and sympathetic to my situation. As I said, i have also filed complaints and reports with the FTC and FBI, so I guess I have all my bases covered, now just have to wait.
I hope I don't have to fly home to get this finished, cause I dont want to and can't pay for it anyway....if they require me to fly back, can I get reimbursed for travel expences?This is GREAT news!


^ I think I just might. I actually can get a new social security number, I just checked. I have to provide proof that it needs to be done in order to protect further theft, so they may or may not approve the change, bt I think I will try I also think I will get a new last name. I like my first name. I dont want to change that.

i think i will do all that when I move in a few months. New life, new social, new name...totally fresh start!

One draw back: I lose my credit history. Even though my credit is bad....I will lose all my history and start over completly fresh. So I will have to build up a whol enew file and won't have years of credit reporting history....uless I can notify the credit bureau's and have them transfer my info....somehow. I'm not to sure abotu the logistics of all this yet, I just started looking...but I thinkI definatly will look into it further.

Don't worry about the credit issue, it is a good thing trust me. You will build up your credit in NO TIME. When I moved here I applied for a macy's card (my bank manager told me to) and was accepted no problemo after a few months of paying my bills on time i was getting CC offers. I applied for a platinum card and again paid the bill on time and now a year later i can apply and get accepted for anything. Not as hard as I thought.

Peanut_Butter
06-13-2008, 12:06 AM
I'm concerned...I have bad credit. I have a lot of debt. This is just a small part of my debt and credit issues. With a new social I will lose all my debt...that's great and all..but it is mine ( mostly) I dont wanna be a loser who gets off shirking my debt responsibilities. although it would be nice to lose it all...ya know what I mean.

But...I feel that since my mother has done this, and I havent gone over really close yet to find other thigns she has stolen yet, but I feel like she wwill do it again. As long as she knows my SS # and my name..she can continue to harm me for the rest of my life. So getting a new number really is beneficial to get rid of her and protect myself.

I have to read more on the laws and everything about this.

seraya
06-13-2008, 12:12 AM
^ I hear you... and very noble of you might I add.

If you apply for a new SS just contact your creditors and give them your new details.

ITA agree that mommy dearest is very likely to pull a stunt like this again.... I just wouldn't risk it.

But yea do your home work and hopefully it will all work out.

You deserve a fresh new start.

MissDewdrop
06-13-2008, 04:28 AM
You won't have to fly out to PA to deal with this. You can send proof of the police report, fraud report, etc. to the cable company CMRRR, and by faxing some stuff (both perhaps). I'm glad the police were sympathetic.

Violet Harley
06-13-2008, 08:03 AM
PB, you are obviously an amazing person to have come through all those experiences and become the person you are today. WOW. :hug:

Just from hearing the stories you've told, I'd love to see your mom personally and kick her you-know-what. What a sick, deranged person. UGH!

I THINK (I've read up on this a little bit) that if you change your SS# (and this can be done for reasons such as yours, or in cases of domestic violence to prevent an abuser from locating his/her victim again), you can still have old accounts linked to your new identity if you contact your creditors. So you should still be fine with that.

I hope your mom and family get what they deserve. Karma can be a bitch!

Move far away, start over, and best wishes to you AND your animals! If you need to vent, feel free to message me if you want!

Take care, k? And don't let these awful people drag you down anymore. They are no longer worthy of a place in your thoughts in any way, shape or form.

cutey5032
06-13-2008, 08:10 AM
Wow PB:( If you ever have to come back to PA, I will be your friend :hug:

pookie
06-13-2008, 08:28 AM
Peanut_butter. I am going to adopt you. You are now mine. :) we will start our own family with nice smart people.

maximvsv
06-13-2008, 11:25 AM
About the cable bill...

You call the cable company and tell them its fraud/ID theft. Ask them to send you a fraud affidavit.

You ought to communicate in writing, rather than telephone calls. It takes longer, but you'll see it in the Fair Debt Collection practices Act and the Fair Credit Reporting Act.

CKXXX
06-13-2008, 11:29 AM
I doubt you will lose all your debt. It cant be that easy..or everyone with debt issues would get new SS#s and start afresh. I'm willing to bet your credit history gets transfered.

Peanut_Butter
06-13-2008, 12:28 PM
^ from what I've read, it doesn't transfer.


For some victims of identity theft, a new number actually creates new problems. If the old credit information is not associated with the new number, the absence of any credit history under the new number may make it more difficult for you to get credit.


I think you can transfer it, but it isn't easy and things tend to get lost.


But youir right, it isn't that eay. You can just ask for a new number and get it, like you said, or everyone would do it. You have to proove that you have a really really good reason for doing it, and they may or may not grant you the new number.

Nini Nieb
06-13-2008, 01:51 PM
I think you somehow should try to let it go !? Your mom is obviously a victim on her own. She is lost. Maybe try to save your kid/brother !! Probally he is lost too !?!

Revenge will do you no good !! Re/read 'The Count of Monte Christo' by/ Alexander Duams ...

CKXXX
06-13-2008, 01:53 PM
^^^^hmmmm...have had identity theft problems...sees way to rid self of crushing debt...become Princess Consuela Bananahammock..SS# 555-55-5555. Hee hee.

Sorry...didnt mean to make light of your situation....loooooooooooooooooooveeeeeeeeeeee youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!! ! :hug:

seraya
06-13-2008, 01:59 PM
I think you somehow should try to let it go !? Your mom is obviously a victim on her own. She is lost. Maybe try to save your kid/brother !! Probally he is lost too !?!

Revenge will do you no good !! Re/read 'The Count of Monte Christo' by/ Alexander Duams ...This is not about revenge it is about making her mother take responsibility for once. It sounds as if PB has already let he mother get away with too much as it is and she will just keep on until somebody puts a stop to it.

Yekhefah
06-13-2008, 02:19 PM
It's not just making her take responsibility. PB has to press charges to defend herself and her own financial future. If she doesn't press charges, she becomes liable for all her mother's bogus expenses and her credit will be ruined, making it impossible for her to buy a house or even a car in the future. It's not vengeance, it's self-defense and responsibility!

Why would you suggest she just bend over and take the abuse?

Peanut_Butter
06-13-2008, 02:25 PM
I think you somehow should try to let it go !? Your mom is obviously a victim on her own. She is lost. Maybe try to save your kid/brother !! Probally he is lost too !?!

Revenge will do you no good !! Re/read 'The Count of Monte Christo' by/ Alexander Duams ...


I don't want revenge. I am not a vengeful person at all. I don' see where I said I was getting revenge? I am just trying to clear my credit of this and the way to do that is to press charges. I am NOT letting this go. It;'s theft. stealing. If someone broke into your home and stole yoru tv, you wouldn't say, well, I won't be vengeful and press charges.

^^^^hmmmm...have had identity theft problems...sees way to rid self of crushing debt...become Princess Consuela Bananahammock..SS# 555-55-5555. Hee hee.

Sorry...didnt mean to make light of your situation....loooooooooooooooooooveeeeeeeeeeee youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!! ! :hug:

but see where I said I DON'T want to get rid of my debt? I am tring to repair my credit legally. I simply want to prevent this from happening again and again....prevent her from hurting me for the rest of my life.

UtahMike
06-13-2008, 03:02 PM
If you get a new SSN, does the money you have paid in to social security get transferred to your new number? This may not matter to ou now, but it will in 40 years, assuming the still have social security then.

It is a headache dealing with the social security administration. Some years back, I noticed that I was getting mail from them addressed to me, but with the wrong middle initial. I contacted them to point htis out.

Well, after several days of long appointments, what turned out is that they had issued my social security number twice. Once to me, and a second time to some guy from Africa whose birthdate was the same as mine, and whose name was ALMOST the same--middle name Vincent-Michael rather than Michael.

This other guy had my social security number but had never paid into the account, applied for benefits, or whatever. And there was no record of his existing any more in the USA. They thought maybe he had applied for an SSN so he could get a driver's license.

So I had to apply for a new social security card, which took care of the middle initial. They said I could apply for a new number if I wanted to, but then I would have to hunt down every place that had the old number and change it--driver's license, banks, employers, credit card companies, etc.. Since he was not using the number, they suggested that I keep it.

So all that complication is what you will have to go through if you get a new SSN. It might be simplet to have a blcok put in your credit report. When I had a block on mine, it went through a third party. If I wanted to apply for any new credit, I had to call him, and he would call the credit bureau and pre-approve it. Then I could apply for the credit and it would go through without that company ever knowing that there was a block on my credit.

That was after my first marriage, when I had more debt than I could handle and was working with one of those credit counseling places. I don't see any reason you couldn't do the same thing.

If you did, then the only reason for changing your number would be so your family could not find you. It is a Federal offense to use your SSN for anything other than reporting income to IRS and the Social Security Administration, so I think you would have recourse against them if they did this. But it might be worth it just to have peace of mind.

If your mother is convicted of felony theft-by-deception charges and ends up in prison, maybe you will not need to worry about her finding you.

CKXXX
06-13-2008, 03:09 PM
but see where I said I DON'T want to get rid of my debt? I am tring to repair my credit legally. I simply want to prevent this from happening again and again....prevent her from hurting me for the rest of my life.

Oh no..I saw YOU didnt want to get rid of it. But I'm just not as honest as you! I'd wipe my debt off the planet in a heartbeat if I could. You're a better woman then I could ever be.

R-209
06-13-2008, 03:15 PM
PB, the story about your pets broke my heart. You are a fantastic person for surviving all of that. Best wishes to you!

maximvsv
06-13-2008, 03:17 PM
If you get a new SSN, does the money you have paid in to social security get transferred to your new number? This may not matter to ou now, but it will in 40 years, assuming the still have social security then.

PB: Even with UM's experience with two people having the same number, if you are issued a new number and have difficulty getting the payment record transferred, when you make a claim, you can send it in on both numbers and have the conflict addressed by an administrative law judge. It would suck because it means taking time and effort during a period when you have something going on when you would be making a claim, but it can be done.

Clara_M
06-13-2008, 06:15 PM
The story about your pets is horrible. She sounds like she has some serious NASTINESS problems beyond the alcohol-related. That is just vicious, taking away what you love on purpose.

Congratulations for being resilient enough to get away from these people, you have a VERY toxic family, not an easy start in life.

threlayer
06-17-2008, 07:24 AM
A few comments:

I'm glad you picked up on my identity fraud warning.

The judge shows I believe give both parties some amount of cash and what is awared to the case winner is subtracted fom what the other person would have gotten. I don't know what happens to the remainder of the money. Plus both parties get airfare and lodging/meals. This way your mom and brother would get rewarded in return for the humiliation they will suffer, but I doubt that will affect them in the slightest. How else would the obvious cases show up for the 'trial.'

I believe your mom should go to jail since I doubt counseling will help her. And I doubt it will cure her once she gets out. But it will put her name in the bad-guys list the cops seem to carry around. So let the detectives know everything she has done that s illegal.

Finally the "don't go against family" is just a means of manipulating you to let them do their thing. Family has gone against YOU. Ignore it and find yourself a new life.