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PleasureVictim
06-15-2008, 03:13 PM
It is not only the models making 1K a night. I know an escort who is a little on the chunky side, with a pouch. She has big breasts which probably draws in lots of guys- wears no makeup, nada. I don't know how much she makes a night, but over a period of 3 or 4 days she'll make 2 or 3 grand, sometimes more.
She advertises on craigslist, doesn't have professional pictures, etc. But she still reels them in. Very far from a model and not working the BBW fetish angle.

I know 'hood' type women who get away with charging $600 an hour. Not that they get calls like that regularly (I know these women and I have to wonder if the guys who pay them are high on rock or something, but I digress)- but they do get those calls, just few and far between.

A few people upthread made mention of casual sex affecting escorting. I would agree, but there are many many men who couldn't get laid from the kindness of a stranger if their life depended on it. There will always be men willing to pay.

The biggest problem is the competition and their prices.

margo80
06-16-2008, 11:31 AM
I am one of those dancers you are talking about, and we are not pissed because we cant finance fancy things when we make 100 an 8 hour shift. we are pissed because we just made 12.50 an hour which is less than i would work for voluntarily. I made at least 17 an hour as a promotional model, doing catering, and bartending, and i didnt have to grind on any strange men, put up with men trying to lick me and touch my pussy, in these jobs. THAT is why we are pissed when we make 100 a shift, not because we are spoiled brats.

Did I not say we deserve to earn MUCH MORE because we are dancers??? I'm a dancer, I have goals, and very high expectations for myself (personally as well as FINANCIALLY). I'm not a "brat" just because I live well, nor did I promote that for anyone else. I want to earn as much as I did 3 years ago too. I'm not, and yes, it's frustrating.

I simply made a point based on the fact that I see many people struggling (I'm also a nurse, and see a lot of people with tough choices out there) and it's interesting for me to see dancers who are making "X" amount (and often complaining about it), yet doing a hell of a lot better than MANY Americans with a lot more on the line. Fact.

Hopefully things will get better very soon. But, even a few years ago when the economy was better, there were dancers who would have made more working a normal job than they were making as dancers. I never understood that. Before doing all the work a dancer does and earning peanuts for it, why not do the simple work of standing at a cash register or something and earn peanuts just the same.

And, if someone wants to escort, she should escort. But, to choose to do something because of "hard times" that she wouldn't ordinarily do is an entirely different concept, and I think I'd burn through every other option before doing something I felt forced into. It's a character call (during tough times it shines)-and NOT because of escorting, but because of not being true to yourself (whatever the topic).

CuriousSeeker
06-16-2008, 12:40 PM
But, to choose to do something because of "hard times" that she wouldn't ordinarily do is an entirely different concept, and I think I'd burn through every other option before doing something I felt forced into. It's a character call (during tough times it shines)-and NOT because of escorting, but because of not being true to yourself (whatever the topic).

This is such a great distinction and well articulated when it comes to hard times: if your back is against the wall through no fault of your own and your options are SOL, it does seem to be a different call.

I'm badly trying to articulate what I'm after here, and Margo already did a great job in echoing the OP. I see the OP trying to check herself to see if she's actively choosing to make a good plan, or is merely reacting and thinking in desperate terms. I call it thinking from my starvation place, which is a psychological space rather than the actual money reality. It's partially what motivated me to take the leap and attempt stripping, and the same thing that has made me entertain thoughts of the NV brothel system if things tanked in my life.

Cherry, what are your thoughts after this brainstorming?

Kalligirl
06-16-2008, 02:02 PM
Why don't you advertise indepedently on Eros.com or Cityvibe.com (the latter being the less popular). You keep all your $ and screen your calls.

Agencies will lie to you and send you on wild goose chases and into ghetto hotels and you have to split your money and work hard for tips. And when I say work hard I don't mean fuck, but get in the dudes head.

I used to do this for years ladies, you don't have to go to a brothel unless you really want to do that type of shit and split your money. (not badmouthing anyone, but paying HALF of your shit... that is bullshit). Yes you have the safety of security, but if you are going to expensive hotels that is neutral territory. I don't do house calls, but i fyou know your area only go to the MOST upscale and mayb ehave a driver. Also, don't ever do incalls.... my personal advice

xoxoGracexoxo
06-16-2008, 02:23 PM
I know very little about escorting. These are just my recent thoughts about the sex industry and the burnout I've been going through.

I wouldn't suggest that anyone do a job they wouldn't otherwise do JUST for the money. I mean, we all work for money. Anyone who has a job does. But if you don't like it -- at least somewhat and some of the time -- then you may very well end up resenting the job for "forcing" you to do stuff you don't want to do.

Stripping is pretty intense work, and I can only imagine that escorting would be more so. Never put yourself in a position where you HAVE to do something you absolutely don't want to do because you need the money to eat or pay rent. That's a pretty negative place to be.

But if you think you would enjoy it, or at least find it tolerable, then go for it. Beyond that, I have no advice.

anomar
06-16-2008, 02:24 PM
Why don't you advertise indepedently on Eros.com or Cityvibe.com (the latter being the less popular). You keep all your $ and screen your calls.


If you're choosing an online listing site, go with eros -- I've heard better things about them... I've heard complaints from girls that cityvibe will do things like just copy & paste from CL ads and pretend they're 'profiles'... and then they'll get calls from clients about 'their cityvibe ad' that they never placed.

Also, if you do decide to go in this direction, another really good resource might be hobbyist/escort boards. There are a lot of them out there and regional... they do have the BS of being forums, but it can be equally reassuring for both parties that a) the guy you're meeting has the 'references' of having met with other girls who post, etc, and b) the guy is reassured at your profile and communication on a social forum. A big one that serves several cities is TNABoard.com

Cherry Valence
06-18-2008, 11:39 AM
After thinking this through, I've decided to work as an escort one day a week and continue dancing. It's going to be hard work, but based on the ads I've run and the clients I've lined up for this week, I'm going to make at least $1400 and possibly $1700. I'm charging $300 per hour.

I'm also scheduled to work 20 hours stripping, which will supplement my income and my sanity. I'm going to work at some more upscale clubs and try to make that stripper money again, not under $200 a shift.

I'm pretty sure one day of working is all my body can handle.

I think next week I'm going to see a life coach or a counselor and see where that leads me. I feel like I'm having growing pains.

PleasureVictim, you're right, and you know the escort market. It does seem unreasonable that an escort would make 1K per day in this economy, but it's remarkably easy to "reel them in" as you said. I find that at certain price points like $200/hour, the demand is unbelievable.

I'm happy with my decision and hope to start saving as much money as humanly possible.

i.breathe.in
06-18-2008, 11:53 AM
cherry keep us up to date on the escorting and let us know how well it worked for you sanity and otherwise!

Joplin
06-18-2008, 02:01 PM
whoa, 4 to 5 guys in one day would be way too much on my first go, but good for you if you can handle it!

Good luck, I hope it all goes good for you!

BlakkMagik
06-18-2008, 04:24 PM
there are some extemely interesting comments here...very good reading, and i am very impressed with the level of discourse...I have been a manager of dancers, escorts and, porn actresses for many years...

I don't see any one sex industry occupation as any better or worse than the other...they all have their good and bad sides...but they all can be very lucrative...

The key is what you do with the money you make...I've always viewed the adult industry as being primarily for the young... you get in young, make your money, save and invest, and get out in about 3 years....

Some woman can make it a life long career if they really love what they do...but for most woman doing it just for money....it can become increasingly hard... very hard.... to compete with yunger girls if your heart isn't really in it...

I personally am not as big on escorting primarily because it is more risky...i prefer certain niches of the porn biz and stripping...however, in such a tough economy, i think you have to be more flexible.

In any event, as i said earlier, no matter what you do(strip escort, etc), you are going to make alot of money, the key is what you do with it...if you get too addicted to the lifestyle, then it can control you, instead of you controlling it...after five or 10 years, alot of girls end up with nothing because they never save or plan for the future

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Victoryx0x0
06-18-2008, 05:30 PM
what did you go to school for? you shud get a 9-5 with that skill... and strip part time no?
only because u seemed as tho you prefer stripping to escorting, so then maybe dont do it

Sophia_Ashley
06-18-2008, 06:38 PM
Ah okay so let me add my 2cents. I worked at a brothel (legally) and as an escort (illegally) for a long while, when taking breaks from dancing.

As an escort with a reputation..of being 5 star. which I was able to bullshit myself to that level. I had a good game :) And I was able to be known as that 3 months into it.

I earned in a week between 3500-5grand. I would typically go thursday-Sunday at a hotel (incall) somewhere like a 5star place. And handle all my weekly appointments there. Customers never knew my location till an hour prior to their appointment, and they didn't know my room number till they were pulling into the hotel (I'd call them at the appointment time) I didn't see anyone outside of the hours 10AM-3pm (take time off) then 7pm-10pm (aka during hotel front desk shift changes).


I advertised solely on the internet. This was before Craigslist. And honestly, I would never advertise there. Too many busts. Eros is great however cops bust through there and they are only selling advertising in certain areas. I used and only that. But then again the only sites that were around were TER, BD, SFR.

TER (the erotic review) the owner DOES have a deal with cops and reviews that are FAKE are posted A LOT with girls. If you can get them taken down (which I managed to do with threatening emails) you will be blocked from there. Which trust me isn't a bad thing.

A majority of my old regulars/clients were ones that didn't post on the board they were lurkers. Which trust me is who you want.

I built my own website through free webs. Paid like 30 bucks a year I think. I designed it myself. I'd make a post on the board, link my website and use my email. I never ever ever gave out my phone number. I'd only call the client on my way to see them an hour prior to confirm up (blocked). I screened viciously through email and my online booking form.

I charged 400 per hour, and suggested no less than 2 hours (800). Most clients jumped at 2 hour - 4 hours.

I was far from GFE. I didn't even kiss, or got fingered ..or let them eat me out. But I look awesome naked and it worked.

I didn't advocate reviews (although I have 30) I made any client that did post a review promise to NOT post details. If you get busted it's proof. They do use it, trust me.

I never bothered with the free paper, or any of that noise. I never ran specials. did less than an hour and I never took anyones shit. I also was independent.

I DID:

1. blur my face and take professional photos.
2. had an online booking form that included
a) Full real name
b) phone number that I could reach them at and a time
c) the name/email/and date of 2 reputable and known providers (escorts)
* and ton of other shit*
3. I made the website by myself, using a prepaid visa to make/pay for it. Using a fake name and address to register.
4. I never saw newbs
5. I advertised bigdoggie on my website which gained me access to their womens only section that IS hidden. It has a do not see list. saved my life.
6. If someone made a post on the pubic boards about me that was negative i always made a positive comment behind it (kill em' with kindness)

Keep your money cash always. Go with your gut. No matter what amount is behind it.

I'll add later when a slue of creepy fucks here in Vancouver aren't looking over my shoulder.

i.breathe.in
06-18-2008, 06:50 PM
wow you guys all have good input. can i ask, mentally how you dealt with the job and also how did you handle having sex with people you didnt find attractive? those are the biggest questions i have...

Sophia_Ashley
06-18-2008, 06:58 PM
I still don't think about it. My bf knows (and that was hard telling him) I told him because seriously how do you avoid bringing up a few years of your life?!

I actually handle it better than dancing. There's only one person there...no heckling...I know what i'm earning. No drama typically. I am home in 3 hours at the most, I have money..I get that rush..Shit is safe..shit is okay in my head. Just another day at the office.

Dancing I go home and reel off of the girls shitty attitudes, the cock wranglers that upset me and wasted my time. The drunk cheap grabs. And it depresses me.

The only time it has fucked with me is when I go into that "mode" with my boyfriend..the entire "here's my vagina...do what you gotta do.." and hurry up I want taco bell and gucci.

I hate and cannot prevent when that happens.

I require a LOT of romance, bullshit and care for me to be interested in someone because I do NOT understand deep in my head that not all guys are basically....shit.

I wish I could explain it better. But if I were single fuck yes I'd do it. Getting arrested scares me though. I'd have to really really make sure someone was legit.Not that I didn't before but I'm so sketched now.

i.breathe.in
06-18-2008, 07:19 PM
do the guys generally expect 3 hour sex or is it a lot of other things with just a short time of sex?

this is something i know nothing about so i am integued.

Sophia_Ashley
06-18-2008, 07:23 PM
Depends on the guy you have. It's a hustle. example...say you have never seen me before..and you book 3 hours (1200)

I'd suggest we meet for dinner (usually in the hotel, or walking distance) where there we'd take up 1 hour, then sit at the bar and proceed to get you drunk. So there is close to 2 hours.

We'd walk to the hotel, where you'd go with me up to the room. I'd massage you, possibly shower with you (takes up 45 minutes)..leaving 15 minutes...toss on the rubber to give head..

most guys blow their load then. Meaning 3 hours are up and we are done. fin.

It tends to work because drinking typically makes memory hazy. However, if they don't drink start talking and don't shut up.

Some guys expect at least 2 rounds. Most want 2 rounds. most can't get through 1 round due to nerves/weirdness.

msonyxorb
06-19-2008, 04:33 AM
wow you guys all have good input. can i ask, mentally how you dealt with the job and also how did you handle having sex with people you didnt find attractive? those are the biggest questions i have...

probably in the same way we deal with hugging, carressing, holding, sitting on, grinding, and in some cases moaning (though i dont understand how girls can do the fake moaning and orgasm noises during a lap dance and not feel humiliated) for guys we are not attracted to...

Cherry Valence
06-19-2008, 06:33 PM
Eh...I cancelled my appointments to work a bachelor party with my girlfriend. Thank for your posts Sophia. I think you were working during a good time in the economy. The review sites are out of control now. Seriously, these guys expect EVERYTHING for like $200-300 per hour, and most ask for half-hour specials. Ugh. The whole thing kind of disgusts me. I admire your hustle. I might not even fuck with it. I dunno, it's gotta be on my terms, so maybe I should proceed with even greater caution.

PS -- I know what you mean about the rush.

Sophia_Ashley
06-20-2008, 12:16 AM
Cherry,

Don't read those sites and buy too much into em'. Those guys actually want girls to think that's all they are worth. I know several girls that charge 250-500 per hour and get it. Remember this, if you charge higher it helps weed out the weirdos a bit more. It won't totally get rid of the issue as that's impossible to do. However, it makes things a lot easier. you'll get mostly the "lurker" types to those sites and people that are worth a shit. Post it up and sit back and check your email. Just don't engage in covo via email. Don't talk about what you will and won't do. NEVER do this. Via phone, email etc. You have to act like you know your shit. Consult with others about anything that you don't understand. Guys online are just as big if not bigger time wasters. So just keep that in mind.

I will just say this much. I know a girl that advertises 600 per hour. No bullshitting around and get it..if not 1200 for 2 hours at least 3 times a week. Those guys don't post on the boards, they do read them though.

You have to appear elite and not snarky or full of drama. It pays off. Literally. Best of luck in whatever you do.

anomar
06-20-2008, 11:03 AM
^^^I agree (though my advice might seem to contradict my earlier posts, where I also suggest checking out the forums)... review sites are definitely filled with lots of PLs. Think about how guys will give clubs crappy reviews because they don't get HJs for $25, you know?

After all.. Eliot Spitzer *probably* didn't frequent one of those sites when he picked Kristen! ;)

betterthaneden
06-21-2008, 08:13 AM
so far only had the time to read the first page of posts, will go read the other 2 when i have time.
and while i respect everyone's opinion, and understand the temptation, i am honestly surprised no one seems to have pointed out the fact that it's illegal.

i don't want to piss anyone off, but i guess i just don't see why you have to go that far/go to that level to make money?
to me while stripping is sexual in nature, it is not actually having sex for money, which is prostitution. does anyone else see anything wrong with that? just curious.
obviously people have control and the choice to do what they want, but i don't know, i couldnt live with myself at the end of the day if i went all the way and did that just for a few extra hundred.
but to each his(her) own.

i.breathe.in
06-21-2008, 08:48 AM
i don't want to piss anyone off, but i guess i just don't see why you have to go that far/go to that level to make money?



a lot of people would say that to dancing...its all in your comfort levels i suppose just like dancing. never been a hooker, but if i could with being comfortable and make a lot more money then i do now and be safe about it, yeah id do it.

virgoamm
06-21-2008, 08:59 AM
Just because something is illegal doesn't make it bad. Usually, things that are illegal are the most fun!

CKXXX
06-21-2008, 09:52 AM
i don't want to piss anyone off, but i guess i just don't see why you have to go that far/go to that level to make money?
.
Because in some places..there is NO money is stripping anymore and people are looking at losing everything they've worked so hard to get.

Sophia_Ashley
06-21-2008, 11:12 AM
Here's the thing it's not about stooping to a "level' some people prefer to escort and not strip. Yes it can happen.

There's nothing wrong with people liking to get paid for sex, verses taking their clothes off. It's all a personal preference thing

Dixie_Vancouver
06-21-2008, 12:02 PM
Here's the thing it's not about stooping to a "level' some people prefer to escort and not strip. Yes it can happen.

Agreed! It's all a personal choice thing, and as you can see here, a LOT of girls are saying if they could do it mentally/physically/whatever, they would do it too!
Also, it's not illegal everywhere, although Cherry, I'm guessing it is where you are?

I escort and have definitely made $1000 a day, that said I don't make that EVERY day. Most girls I work with average about $3500 a week I'd say, but we do usually five shifts. We DO hustle, though, but because escorting isn't illegal in Canada we have more leeway in that sense, probably.

Also, I've found that sometimes police are MORE likely to help you if you're an escort...maybe because of the whole Pickton thing, I'm not sure, but at least in Vancouver they're usually very quick to show up and to defend you.

As for their being less demand now that there's casual sex everywhere, well I still make lots of money and get lots of calls! Some guys prefer it from a pro anyways, because it's a guaranteed thing and the girls are usually hot/experienced.

betterthaneden
06-21-2008, 12:11 PM
yeah, just wanted to point out my opinion. i know everyone is entitled to theirs and i guess it is more of a preference thing. i guess i'd hesitate because of it being illegal and since i have a kid i wouldnt want to do anything that i could get arrested or in trouble for. i guess i just wouldn't do it. but like i said, to each their own and if you're going to do it at least be safe and listen to the advice of the ladies on here who have.

Aubreyyy
06-21-2008, 12:16 PM
I'd do it in a heartbeat, if I didn't have a boyfriend.

I like the fact that its basically zero games- I don't have to convince you to give me more money. We both know what you're here for, and that I'm going to give it to you. I know you're going to spend a set amount of money before I agree to see you.

CuriousSeeker
06-21-2008, 12:48 PM
i guess i'd hesitate because of it being illegal and since i have a kid i wouldnt want to do anything that i could get arrested or in trouble for.

...which is also plenty of reason to be very careful about the rules that pertain to your SC and to avoid working in a SC that looks the other way. This is why I browbeat security on some issues to get clear rules for my behavior even when it seemed like I was nitpicking needlessly.

Back to the topic...In the States, I only know of licensed NV brothels as being legal. I had no idea of the legal status in Canada - wow.

Dixie_Vancouver
06-21-2008, 01:05 PM
It's a lot of loopholes and catches, really, but yes, it's legal.
However it's illegal to solicit in public (so you can't streetwalk), illegal to run a common bawdy house (which makes incalls illegal) and illegal to live off the avails (no pimps! yay!).
Therefore the best way to do it here is to run an ad in the paper, online, wherever, have a rate per hour and allude to what you'll do, then when you're in the private residence or hotel you can go into the whole, "my rate includes x and x, if you want X then that's another $50" or whatever.
Certain provinces, such as Alberta, I'm pretty sure you have to be licensed and are required by law to work through an agency, whereas in BC you can choose whether to work independently or with an agency.

msonyxorb
06-21-2008, 02:02 PM
Agreed! It's all a personal choice thing, and as you can see here, a LOT of girls are saying if they could do it mentally/physically/whatever, they would do it too!
Also, it's not illegal everywhere, although Cherry, I'm guessing it is where you are?

I escort and have definitely made $1000 a day, that said I don't make that EVERY day. Most girls I work with average about $3500 a week I'd say, but we do usually five shifts. We DO hustle, though, but because escorting isn't illegal in Canada we have more leeway in that sense, probably.

Also, I've found that sometimes police are MORE likely to help you if you're an escort...maybe because of the whole Pickton thing, I'm not sure, but at least in Vancouver they're usually very quick to show up and to defend you.

As for their being less demand now that there's casual sex everywhere, well I still make lots of money and get lots of calls! Some guys prefer it from a pro anyways, because it's a guaranteed thing and the girls are usually hot/experienced.

see you can make that stripping too. if the place you lives sucks and you need money that bad why not relocate? ive heard of girls making 5k a week from stripping in vegas, which is more than your escort friends are making working their vaginas off and probably getting sore and risking illness.

maybe if it was an easy 1000 an hour i think people would be more likely to understand why anyone wants to do this, but if you have to hustle your ass off for 3500 every 5 days i really dont see it as worth it at all.

and can we please stop calling it escorting? i would love to live with the delusion that there still exists a 1 percent of people who are so beautiful that they can actually get away with JUST escorting and not fucking the people they are "escorting"
i used to apply to a few escort companies and they would all yell at me when i said "there is NO sex involved right?"
because its illegal here they couldnt say "NO YOU NEED TO HAVE SEX" but they would just call me stupid and hint and hint and hint that i needed to hjaave sex but that it was "my choice" blah blah blah blah blah. I hate that people use such a vague term for something that should just be called prostitution. Im surprised people still use the term in nations where it is LEGAL, whats the point of the run around??? why not just call them call girls???

CKXXX
06-21-2008, 02:05 PM
^^relocation isnt an option for everyone..and even in Vegas,the odds of making $5K a week is slim to none for most...

i.breathe.in
06-21-2008, 02:08 PM
see you can make that stripping too. if the place you lives sucks and you need money that bad why not relocate? ive heard of girls making 5k a week from stripping in vegas, which is more than your escort friends are making working their vaginas off and probably getting sore and risking illness.




surely you havent forgotten about all the extras running around in strip clubs where its easy for some girls to make that money right? not all girls are honest on how they make it.

Dixie_Vancouver
06-21-2008, 02:10 PM
A lot of the girls I work with have kids, other jobs, husbands/boyfriends with jobs, family here, etc so picking up and moving to Vegas isn't exactly logical, nor is it necessarily something everyone wants to do. Also, since we're in Canada, it's not easy to just pop down to Vegas to strip.
Different strokes for different folks, anyway.

msonyxorb
06-21-2008, 02:23 PM
A lot of the girls I work with have kids, other jobs, husbands/boyfriends with jobs, family here, etc so picking up and moving to Vegas isn't exactly logical, nor is it necessarily something everyone wants to do. Also, since we're in Canada, it's not easy to just pop down to Vegas to strip.
Different strokes for different folks, anyway.

hmm let me think about this...other jobs- plus stripping.

you say your friends work 5 days a week. if you were to strip 5 days a week in a place where there is no business you would make 500 a week at least. plus the income from your other job- lets say its low paying and you make 200 a week. thats 700 a week. if you have a husband/bf he helps out probably too so that even more money. i hardly see anyone in this situation needing to go the extra mile for the money, they have more than enough to live on.

msonyxorb
06-21-2008, 02:25 PM
surely you havent forgotten about all the extras running around in strip clubs where its easy for some girls to make that money right? not all girls are honest on how they make it.

and not all girls do extras to make that much money...
ive had my days where ive made more than the extras girls at the club, which they get super mad about because im making more money and dont have to do all the shit they do lol
its no common though i will admit, but honestly i think for what they are doing they are very much underpricing themselves. if i was a hooker id charge at least 1k an hour. why charge less than 400 when you can make that in an hour in the champagne room just talking and dancing???

msonyxorb
06-21-2008, 02:26 PM
^^relocation isnt an option for everyone..and even in Vegas,the odds of making $5K a week is slim to none for most...


really? this girl wasnt exactly attractive. ive gotten similar reports from several girls. another girl said she made 400 bucks in her first hour there. she wasnt exactly a bombshell either and i know for a fact she doesnt do extras.

i.breathe.in
06-21-2008, 02:28 PM
if i was a hooker id charge at least 1k an hour. why charge less than 400 when you can make that in an hour in the champagne room just talking and dancing???


im with you on that one.

Dixie_Vancouver
06-21-2008, 02:29 PM
I guess stripping's not for everyone? I'm not sure.
I never really questioned anyone's reasoning for picking escorting, but I do know one girl used to strip and I assume she has reasons for not wanting to do it.

Also, from reading this board, and threads like "I Made $10 Last Night" I wouldn't say you're guaranteed to make any amount of money.

Lastly, if I was a hooker, I'd probably charge more too. Thankfully, I'm not, I'm an escort!

virgoamm
06-21-2008, 02:34 PM
Aren't they one and the same? I thought escorts had sex for money. *confused*

Not judging, btw. I think it all should be legal. Just curious. ;)

i.breathe.in
06-21-2008, 02:35 PM
stripper, exotic dancer, entertainer, who cares what its called, its mostly the same thing. same applies IMO.

msonyxorb
06-21-2008, 02:39 PM
I guess stripping's not for everyone? I'm not sure.
I never really questioned anyone's reasoning for picking escorting, but I do know one girl used to strip and I assume she has reasons for not wanting to do it.

Also, from reading this board, and threads like "I Made $10 Last Night" I wouldn't say you're guaranteed to make any amount of money.

Lastly, if I was a hooker, I'd probably charge more too. Thankfully, I'm not, I'm an escort!
you arent guaranteed money but the 10 dollar nights arent that common either. i work in LA and on my bad days i usually make a little less than 100, and thats in Los angeles. ive heard everywhere else is basically a shitload better so i wouldnt see 500 a week as being hard to get when you are working 5 days a week

msonyxorb
06-21-2008, 02:41 PM
Aren't they one and the same? I thought escorts had sex for money. *confused*

Not judging, btw. I think it all should be legal. Just curious. ;)
the reason why escorting is legal is because by definition its just someone ESCORTING a guy, to an event or dinner, etc.
escorts do have sex for money but thats because the term is a cover up for prostitution, not because escorting means prostitution. unfortunately it has gotten to the point where the words are interchangeable.
maybe one day stripper will also mean hooker...

i.breathe.in
06-21-2008, 02:43 PM
maybe one day stripper will also mean hooker...

dude it totally does already to a lot of people :'(

Dixie_Vancouver
06-21-2008, 02:44 PM
It depends...the majority of escorts do have sex for money, usually what they charge initially, as far as I know.
But at least for me, my hourly rate covers my time, which I guess is similar to just hanging out in the Champagne Room and talking or whatever. If you want something more than just talking and a massage, I set my prices for that according to how comfortable I am with the customer. Most of the time, I don't offer full service...that's just me though. I find I can get through a session without problems doing less, and therefore prefer to. (Having said that, I couldn't do that if I was advertised on review boards or something. Those kind of clients definitely don't play the upselling game.)

I just hate the term 'hooker' because it sounds so degrading, it's usually what guys call us when they're being assholes and being disrespectful. I think it's just the negative connotation, though, that bugs me.

CKXXX
06-21-2008, 02:45 PM
hmm let me think about this...other jobs- plus stripping.

you say your friends work 5 days a week. if you were to strip 5 days a week in a place where there is no business you would make 500 a week at least. plus the income from your other job- lets say its low paying and you make 200 a week. thats 700 a week. if you have a husband/bf he helps out probably too so that even more money. i hardly see anyone in this situation needing to go the extra mile for the money, they have more than enough to live on.

You arent GUARANTEED to make anything. There are a lot of girls getting out because they are going home with nothing or close to it a lot of nights.In more then one area.
And you dont know what someones expenses are..what if they have kids or an expensive mortgage on a home they dont want to give up? What if they have expensive hospital or medical bills or elderly care to pay for? For some people...what they make stripping 'aint covering it.

If you dont want to do it..if you can pay your bills happily by stripping.thats fine. But dont assume you know what anyone else's situation may be.

Not to mention that some people are just more comfortable escorting. I've spoken to a few that cant understand WHY someone would go into a club, dance in painful shoes all night, talk to boring men about boring things all night every night in the HOPES that they will make money when they can just book appts,get down to business and know exactly what they are making from it.

It isnt about going down or stooping to a level..its about what the individual is comfortable with.

RoseLeigh
06-21-2008, 02:47 PM
you arent guaranteed money but the 10 dollar nights arent that common either. i work in LA and on my bad days i usually make a little less than 100, and thats in Los angeles. ive heard everywhere else is basically a shitload better so i wouldnt see 500 a week as being hard to get when you are working 5 days a week

There is a HUGE difference between $500 (which depending on where you live, kids, etc may not be enough to live on) and $3500 a week.

msonyxorb
06-21-2008, 02:51 PM
Not to mention that some people are just more comfortable escorting. I've spoken to a few that cant understand WHY someone would go into a club, dance in painful shoes all night, talk to boring men about boring things all night every night in the HOPES that they will make money when they can just book appts,get down to business and know exactly what they are making from it.

It isnt about going down or stooping to a level..its about what the individual is comfortable with.

appointments dont come out of thin air. they have to work to get them too, and screen the people and watch out that they dont get raped or killed. i dont understand how any prostitute can say its less of a hustle, its not, i think they are kidding themselves.

msonyxorb
06-21-2008, 02:54 PM
There is a HUGE difference between $500 (which depending on where you live, kids, etc may not be enough to live on) and $3500 a week.

there is also a huge difference between having sore feet from walking around in heels all week and having a sore vagina and yeast infections, bv, etc etc from sexually servicing multiple men per week to make that 3500 a week. the going price for a hooker is what, 200 an hour? 3500 a week is 17 hours of having sex... not worth it at all to me
and 500 is just an example of a place thats realllllly bad for stripping, and i would assume that if its that bad for strippers its probably not great for prostitutes either.

CKXXX
06-21-2008, 02:56 PM
appointments dont come out of thin air. they have to work to get them too, and screen the people and watch out that they dont get raped or killed. i dont understand how any prostitute can say its less of a hustle, its not, i think they are kidding themselves.

A lot of escorts work for agencies who do all that for them. They just get called when the hustling is done and theres an appt set up.