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RoseLeigh
06-21-2008, 03:01 PM
there is also a huge difference between having sore feet from walking around in heels all week and having a sore vagina and yeast infections, bv, etc etc from sexually servicing multiple men per week to make that 3500 a week. the going price for a hooker is what, 200 an hour? 3500 a week is 17 hours of having sex... not worth it at all to me
and 500 is just an example of a place thats realllllly bad for stripping, and i would assume that if its that bad for strippers its probably not great for prostitutes either.

It depends. Some people don't have the physical stamina to dance 5 days a week. And the going price changes depending on location, what you set it to be, etc. I've known girls who only escort with regulars. Every situation is different and can't be judged by one set of (really mislead) ideas.

britt244
06-21-2008, 03:27 PM
there is also a huge difference between having sore feet from walking around in heels all week and having a sore vagina and yeast infections, bv, etc etc from sexually servicing multiple men per week to make that 3500 a week. the going price for a hooker is what, 200 an hour? 3500 a week is 17 hours of having sex... not worth it at all to me
and 500 is just an example of a place thats realllllly bad for stripping, and i would assume that if its that bad for strippers its probably not great for prostitutes either.

500 a week is not bad for a stripper depending how many nights that stripper works.

Cherry Valence
06-21-2008, 03:34 PM
I think a lot of providers could handle 17 hours of sex because you can waste a lot of time during the appointment. Some of my clients cum almost immediately and wanna get out of there. They're the best.

I think it really is an issue of what one can handle. I think I'll do it occasionally. I charge $300 per hour. I made about $300 at the private party I worked last night and danced for a total of five songs, totally clean light one-way contact with the birthday boy. The rest of the time I ate prime rib and hung out on a houseboat. So I'll probably do more parties.

I can see why some would never do it, but I'm glad I can handle it because I know I'll never be lacking for money. I just need to up the hustle factor, and I'm not sure I really have that much time to devote to it.

Dilemmas, dilemmas.

CuriousSeeker
06-21-2008, 03:45 PM
Lastly, if I was a hooker, I'd probably charge more too. Thankfully, I'm not, I'm an escort!

I'm feeling lost on this point. Did you mean that the terms "escort" and "hooker" mean the same thing, but "hooker" is the uglier word because of connotation so you choose not to use it; or are you saying escorts don't offer full sex whereas hookers do?

Dixie_Vancouver
06-21-2008, 03:53 PM
Well, it depends on the girls, but I don't offer full sex for the rate I charge like a lot of girls do. So I don't like to called a hooker, just because I think it implies not just something more than what I do, but because of the negative connotation. So, both!
I can see how it's splitting hairs though, for the most part. A lot of escorts I know don't care if you call them hookers/whores/whatever, I guess it just depends on the person.

exotic0690
06-21-2008, 09:14 PM
I am one of those dancers you are talking about, and we are not pissed because we cant finance fancy things when we make 100 an 8 hour shift. we are pissed because we just made 12.50 an hour which is less than i would work for voluntarily. I made at least 17 an hour as a promotional model, doing catering, and bartending, and i didnt have to grind on any strange men, put up with men trying to lick me and touch my pussy, in these jobs. THAT is why we are pissed when we make 100 a shift, not because we are spoiled brats.


WELL SAID.

Kalligirl
06-22-2008, 10:40 PM
some of you ladies have it twisted, like a few escorts above said, its not all prostitution. if a man solicits you, thats illegal. escorting is not. you can easily charge 300 and just dance for the man. im not trying to sound rude, but why can't you guys grasp taht simple concept. once you have the money in your hand, you have the power. if he wants something else THAT is illegal. i know plenty of girls who escort and don't trick and if they do they are getting way more than 300.... its all in the hustle...

thechaosfairy
06-23-2008, 10:28 PM
I honestly dream of being the sort of person who could do sex for money.


I'm not, but I wish I was. I don't see anything morally wrong with it, it would just fuck with my head. If I had the character for it, though, I think I'd lead a better life.

krystalpink
06-23-2008, 11:50 PM
I couldn't do it myself but I don't flame you for wanting to make money while you are still young and can do it. One of my best friends was a high class escort and made $$$ paid off 2 houses a few cars and retired by 32. (she started when she was 18) As long as you don't do it in a strip club I see no problem but obviously you are in the USA and its not legal like it is here (Australia). Make sure you have some kind of security with you and be very cautious.

Optimist
06-24-2008, 11:36 AM
(she started when she was 18)

TEN????:-\

ViolaStrings
06-24-2008, 11:39 AM
18, when you do an 8 and a ) next to each other it makes 8)

anomar
06-24-2008, 01:08 PM
there is also a huge difference between having sore feet from walking around in heels all week and having a sore vagina and yeast infections, bv, etc etc from sexually servicing multiple men per week to make that 3500 a week. the going price for a hooker is what, 200 an hour? 3500 a week is 17 hours of having sex... not worth it at all to me
and 500 is just an example of a place thats realllllly bad for stripping, and i would assume that if its that bad for strippers its probably not great for prostitutes either.

I don't know where you are pulling these arbitrary numbers from in order to make your point.

There are different choices one can make and different ways to do it safely. Some girls are complete safety girls and always do everything covered; some don't. I read posts on hobbyist boards about guys getting full on bjs in strip clubs. That is not the norm. Neither is the occurrence of women getting beaten/robbed/raped/killed etc when they enlist the many resources available for client screening.

Also, I don't understand the logic that poor market for stripping = poor market for prostitution. There are several threads in SG where women bemoan how when women choose to prostitute themselves in strip clubs, it makes it harder for women who do not do so to make money. You can 'assume' poor market for stripping = poor market for prostitution but when analyzed against the many other threads in here about that correlation, your conclusion simply does not exist.

Please try to keep this thread either supportive or informative. Please read the thread title.

Bringing in assumptions that are not rooted in your own experiences does not help the OP, who is looking for clear and measured support/intelligent questioning, not baseless fearmongering.

msonyxorb
06-24-2008, 10:03 PM
I don't know where you are pulling these arbitrary numbers from in order to make your point.

There are different choices one can make and different ways to do it safely. Some girls are complete safety girls and always do everything covered; some don't. I read posts on hobbyist boards about guys getting full on bjs in strip clubs. That is not the norm. Neither is the occurrence of women getting beaten/robbed/raped/killed etc when they enlist the many resources available for client screening.

Also, I don't understand the logic that poor market for stripping = poor market for prostitution. There are several threads in SG where women bemoan how when women choose to prostitute themselves in strip clubs, it makes it harder for women who do not do so to make money. You can 'assume' poor market for stripping = poor market for prostitution but when analyzed against the many other threads in here about that correlation, your conclusion simply does not exist.

Please try to keep this thread either supportive or informative. Please read the thread title.

Bringing in assumptions that are not rooted in your own experiences does not help the OP, who is looking for clear and measured support/intelligent questioning, not baseless fearmongering.
sorry by poor market for prostitution i meant an unprofitable market. women are giving out extras in club and earning a stripper salary, not a prostitutes salary, which i would think SHOULD be a lot more. That is why I say the market is probably bad right now, for ALL kinds of sex workers. Most of the time when customers ask for extras, theyre not ready to pay 500 and up for them. They expect it for the price of a VIP or champagne room plus a tip if the girl was really good at faking that she enjoyed it.

gingergrl
07-02-2008, 05:04 PM
Ive been considering this myself
Anyone know any GOOD agencys???

sexyjasmine
07-02-2008, 05:28 PM
I can't lie I thought about it and was contacted by the bunny ranch after i reached out to them because i cant see myself putting my life in danger going to someones house you know or hotel

my problem is i have a boyfriend that im very honest upfront and clean with (i dont cheat or do extras) so i would have to lie to him in order to do it and in the long run w my long term goals its not worth it so for now...

i just read sw and take tips from here with me to work use it see what happens work long long long shifts 5 days a week its really hard to make ends meet but at the end of the day i go home not feelings so bad when i lay in my mans arms...just my opinion

anomar
07-03-2008, 02:28 PM
^^That is cool for you, to be able to weigh the advantages & disadvantages and make a decision for yourself. It's a hard process. :)

Kalligirl
07-23-2008, 01:40 PM
sorry by poor market for prostitution i meant an unprofitable market. women are giving out extras in club and earning a stripper salary, not a prostitutes salary, which i would think SHOULD be a lot more. That is why I say the market is probably bad right now, for ALL kinds of sex workers. Most of the time when customers ask for extras, theyre not ready to pay 500 and up for them. They expect it for the price of a VIP or champagne room plus a tip if the girl was really good at faking that she enjoyed it.

Are you a sex worker?

Because all the ladies I know that are sex workers are BANKING.

Ain't no buisness like ho buisness.... (I hate to quote 50 but whatever)

But even girls that I know that escorts that are not sex workers (yeah theres a difference) still bank.

I really think whatever you just stated is not factually correct and bias. (i know i spelt that wrong but whatever)

msonyxorb
07-23-2008, 11:44 PM
Are you a sex worker?

Because all the ladies I know that are sex workers are BANKING.

Ain't no buisness like ho buisness.... (I hate to quote 50 but whatever)

But even girls that I know that escorts that are not sex workers (yeah theres a difference) still bank.

I really think whatever you just stated is not factually correct and bias. (i know i spelt that wrong but whatever)

apparently asking about this escorting without being a sex worker thing is being anti hooker. i and im sure plenty of girls would like to know how to be an escort without having sex though, it sounds like a dream job

ViolaStrings
07-24-2008, 12:23 AM
QFT! If I had the choice between dancing five shifts per week for $500 and escorting five shifts per week for $3500 (with no other options), I'd take the latter.

But... you'd still be having sex with seven strangers. Seven strange penises attached to seven strange men pawing at your flesh like a butcher handing veal. Pumping and throbbing in your orifices, then quivering, sweating, moaning and orgasming into you. That sounds worse than Freddy Krueger to me.

Prostitutes deserve every penny they charge and more. Seriously.

pornlaw
07-24-2008, 05:09 AM
As an alternative, there are a lot of women that contact me in order to try out porn as a way to supplement their incomes.

If you can handle working as an escort.... performing might be easier.

Porn is legal in California, it pays $500 to $1500 based upon the act ($500 BJ $1500 for anal ) it actually helps a dancer become a feature if she's interested in that and its STD/HIV tested and professional.

I know a lot of dancers who started doing porn 1-2 weeks of the month and just ended up moving to LA to do it full time. Depending on the performer, I have clients that make anywhere from $100,000 to $250,000 a year just off performing.

Its not always easy and you have to be careful about what agent you sign with but it can lead to other avenues of revenue as well - ie., website, personal appearances and dance gigs. Not to mention higher rates at the Bunny Ranch.

Michael

www.AdultBizLaw.com

AlexxaHex
07-25-2008, 12:26 AM
I require a LOT of romance, bullshit and care for me to be interested in someone because I do NOT understand deep in my head that not all guys are basically....shit.


Oh gawd...me too. But it's all from dancing and domming. The one sugar daddy I had paid really well and I don't feel any sort of "damage" from it. Like most here, I don't feel like I could do escorting as a full time thing but if there were a rare few really rich guys who were into me I might consider that. But I'm just not looking for it.
Thanks for all that info by the way. It's interesting to see how you ran your business. The process was really similar for me as a dominatrix. I screened them all so hardcore and made them do 2+ hour sessions. It really weeded out the cheap jerks from the decent ones.


But... you'd still be having sex with seven strangers. Seven strange penises attached to seven strange men pawing at your flesh like a butcher handing veal. Pumping and throbbing in your orifices, then quivering, sweating, moaning and orgasming into you. That sounds worse than Freddy Krueger to me.

Prostitutes deserve every penny they charge and more. Seriously.

The way you write it makes it seem kind of hot. Oh the horrors of sex!

ViolaStrings
07-25-2008, 12:51 AM
^ but imagine it as an overweight, hairy, balding, middle aged man who doesn't think of you as a human being but an outlet for his undersized penis and oversized ego.

CKXXX
07-25-2008, 08:27 AM
^^ as if you dont dance for guys who are thinking JUST that....

LoveComesFromWithin
07-25-2008, 04:07 PM
i think brothels should be more mainstream

misslizzy
07-25-2008, 09:37 PM
I honestly dream of being the sort of person who could do sex for money.


I'm not, but I wish I was. I don't see anything morally wrong with it, it would just fuck with my head. If I had the character for it, though, I think I'd lead a better life.

Same here, except it wouldn't even fuck with my head. I just know I couldn't physically take it. I can't physically handle getting laid as much as I WANT to, never mind "would HAVE to!"

Anica Green
09-25-2008, 10:15 PM
There are some who mix dancing with Escorting, some women prefer to Escort only, while some couldn't think of it & choose to only dance. Work hard at whichever you choose. Escorting & dancing are different in my mind in the way you choose to put a dollar amount for the service. It's all how you look at it & what you think "X" is worth...be it it dance or etc..... Escorts are also feeling the pinch to a degree. It's all about selling sex either way- just to what extent can you sell the least for the most profit I believe....or the fantasy instead of FS:bored: Though US law is different then Canadian, it's the same concept to enterprise.... Hard times all round....

Aubreyyy
09-26-2008, 01:15 AM
I have found that sometimes I can fuck for money.

I have a previous custie that I see every time I come back to NYC. We shack up in a hotel room and he puts and envelope in my purse while I'm in the bathroom. We never talk about dollar amounts, but I am obv blurring the lines A LOT.

I kinda enjoy it- he's pretty good looking and the money is great. I don't think I'd be able to handle it with anyone else though. I prefer to only be taking money from one guy at a time.

VegasPrincess
09-26-2008, 01:20 AM
^^^

You told me about him! You are a lucky lucky lucky girl ;)

Aubreyyy
09-26-2008, 01:36 AM
Girl, you don't even know!

He has set me up with an apartment rental the next time I come to the city for a week. He really is too good to be true!

VegasPrincess
09-26-2008, 01:39 AM
^^^

Yay!!! How fun :) Don't let him go make him feel like the most special guy alive!

Crow2
09-28-2008, 03:07 PM
Also here's something to think about, anybody with any sort of credits behind their name ( magazine, movie etc ) can and will charge more for escorting "work". Even the porn industry has floundered a little from the short time I've been doing it. Others can be a better judge than I..

Melonie
09-28-2008, 04:48 PM
escorting offers better money than providing 'extras' inside the club. escorting actually offers a lower bust risk as well. But escorting / prostitution does require a very strong personality and self-image in order to do it with class !!!

Katherine
09-28-2008, 05:04 PM
I say if you can physically, mentally, and emotionally handle it than GO FOR IT!

Crow2
09-28-2008, 07:22 PM
escorting offers better money than providing 'extras' inside the club. escorting actually offers a lower bust risk as well. But escorting / prostitution does require a very strong personality and self-image in order to do it with class !!!

Exactly. Anybody can walk the track. It takes real work and a good business head to do what the true pros in that industry do.

lovelydancer
12-24-2013, 09:44 PM
I'm in the same boat myself. I have always been a clean dancer...but financially I'm in a position where I may not have a choice but to start escorting. I know physically I can handle it (although I am grossed out by the idea of possibly giving someone a blowjob), I just don't know if I can mentally. Is there anything you ladies know now that you wish you did when you first made the transition?

audrey_k
12-25-2013, 10:15 PM
If it doesn't bother you, go for it. Personally I am doing OK right now, pulling in between 400-800 a night... but I work in a nude club, and I cringe every night when management takes 50% from me. Yeah, I'm not sleeping with my customers, but I'm also not doing clothed floor dances or sipping champagne in the VIP room. I've never worked anywhere else so I'm used to it. I talk to girls who also work topless/bikini occasionally who are good hustlers, pulling in more than I am every night at my club, and they say breaking the $200 mark at topless/bikini is VERY hard.

Mentally I'm not right for escorting, I just couldn't be OK with myself if I was doing it, but if you're OK that's all that really matters. I will say thought that pulling in 400-800 a night requires me working my fucking ass off-- hustling HARD, pushing for tips and putting up with some really shitty customers. I was making more than this a few years ago and not working as hard. I'm beat to hell when I get home.

Tourdefranzia
12-26-2013, 04:47 PM
This is a really old thread and the information here is pretty out dated. The economy has made a complete turn around in the last couple of years, and people are starting to spend their money on luxury items like strip clubs again.

In my experience, girls that like stripping dislike escorting and vice versa. Find what works for you, then find yourself the right venue for your career. If you like stripping but aren't making any money, try a different kind of club. There is no shame in banking at dive bars. The high end clubs aren't for everyone.

TwirlGirl
01-01-2014, 02:37 AM
I know the owner of temptationsnynj.com and they do $1000 a day, every day after splits. That's take home.

zorasky
06-10-2015, 12:01 AM
Attempting to revive this thread, as it would seem dancing has just lost it's momentum. I don't know if other ladies in different parts of the country have been experiencing this, but in Portland, OR, it's very, very dry at most of the clubs. Granted, there are more strip clubs per capita here than anywhere else in the US (even Vegas). I have heard many dancers talking about escorting instead, though I doubt I would ever consider the same.

Prettyglitter
06-10-2015, 01:28 AM
I've thought about it briefly but I definitely can't do it. Sex already makes me feel uncomfortable. I like the way high end escorting looks on Secret Diary. Like I would love to go on expensive trips and be showered with gifts lol. Everyone keeps saying stripping is getting bad which makes me thankful I started dancing in October. I have a different perception, I live very very comfortably so far and I don't even work regularly.

Melonie
06-10-2015, 01:49 AM
Attempting to revive this thread, as it would seem dancing has just lost it's momentum. I don't know if other ladies in different parts of the country have been experiencing this, but in Portland, OR, it's very, very dry at most of the clubs.

In regard to potential strip club and/or escort customers, in general the top 1% earners are doing better then ever, top 10% earners are doing as well as ever, but bottom 90% earners are 'falling behind'. This is the arguable result of the majority of recent economic gains going to the stock markets and top level corporate employees, while 'regular' worker paychecks have remained stagnant or actually fallen.

As a result, the customer spending habits you're likely to encounter today ... for escorts and dancers alike ... are likely to be very different depending on whether the customer base you're 'marketing' yourself to is made up of bottom 90% earners or top 10% earners.

Nikki_Fox
06-10-2015, 06:51 AM
It's not all rosey on this side of the fence either - it is more challenging than ever - there has been an influx of working girls due to the economy - rampant drug use - ladies like yourself not making sufficient money in the clubs - the competition is tough - --do you research and try to be in the top end as Melonie has suggested

It is not all trips and gifts

lamb
06-11-2015, 09:38 PM
I'm actually getting into stripping so I can STOP escorting. I don't do it often enough to make a decent living and I find the guys drag me on for longer lengths of time than I agreed to. Once I start stripping I'll be happy to keep my work at the club, not have to check my e-mail every 5 minutes, and be working a set amount of hours in a safer environment.

chloe25
06-13-2015, 05:58 AM
Hi there,
I see some similarities in your story and mine. I started escorting and stripping at 18, however I stopped escorting after about 10-20 jobs because I really did not like spreading my legs and feeling as though the man who was paying me had power over me. I have been dancing on and off for 8 years, I have a bachelors degree and am doing a post graduate degree at the moment.
I head you financial worries, however I really think you could try working at different clubs and find somewhere there is more money... BEFORE you go back into the world of straight out sex work.
There are so many factors in the making of this decision, all I can say is that I've always found stripping incredibly empowering, and I found sex worth I empowering. Sure there is the promise of some big money, but for me, soon as I did the big escort jobs, I also found myself doing jobs for less and less money. If you look at the two industries, if you stay dancing in a strip club, it is going to be a far more regulated (and safe) environment, then if you step out as an escort, either with an agency or on your own.
I know different people have different attitude towards sex work, but I feel like if you don't feel like you can talk to many people about your thoughts on escorting now, once your in it, you will continue to struggle with the isolation of the job.
You sound like me in that you have a strong focus on money, try other clubs, up your hours or nights working, put your all into dancing, travel with it, maybe take a break from it until a busier season. I feel like the negative outcomes of sex work outweigh the benefits. Xx good luck