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lola85
06-17-2008, 07:50 PM
yay go op- its great to be pretty! I agree! Enjoy it & make the most of it. Pretty is what pretty does :)

I'm still not used to all the pessimists here... geez get laid, get paid sh*t smile. must you kill all joy on the site?
fyi I won't duel online w jaded biotches. don't waste your time ((smile))

jaizaine
06-17-2008, 11:04 PM
I dunno who u think is jaded. Thinking about this again, if one was truly hot I dont think they would feel the need to start a thread about it.;D

Starfire
06-17-2008, 11:10 PM
I dunno who u think is jaded. Thinking about this again, if one was truly hot I dont think they would feel the need to start a thread about it.;D
:thumbsup: Agreed. Maybe something someone said hit too close to home for her?

Cassandra39
06-17-2008, 11:29 PM
I'm in a hurry and havent read through all the posts yet (but I will this thread is interesting.)
I just wanted to mention a huge eye opener I got yesterday reading a thread saying how as strippers we do spend way more than the average on looks. While someone else can live on $12 an hour, our hair, nails, tan etc are very important to us. We have to look the part for our job, and I agree, it has made me have more respect for beauty in general because of it.
Tomorrow I will find who said that because I did make me think a lot about the maintenance this job requires.

Heatherette
06-18-2008, 12:57 AM
I think I understand what the OP is saying.. it is easier to get your foot in the door w/ your looks and let the rest (intelligence, personality, etc) take over. Cinnamon and I have the same situation, though. Unless I'm going out, I don't do shit.. go to school in pj's. Looks always help, but they won't get you a successful and fulfilling life.

miabella
06-18-2008, 01:46 AM
'pretty' looks vary a lot culturally and individually. even just in different states/countries and among individuals, 'pretty' isn't a universal look in the first place. when i hear someone say 'i love being pretty', i know they haven't yet met the people who will find them not-pretty (or are refusing to admit they exist). and i wonder how they'll handle being considered not-pretty for even a moment, much less when they are too old to be 'pretty'. women of a certain age can be good looking, but they are no longer 'pretty'.

plus, even a 4 can be pretty for a time with expertly applied makeup and/or dim enough stripclub lights.

ColetteCalahan
06-18-2008, 01:49 AM
^^Thank you. I don't think we should underestimate the old phrase, "beauty is in the eye of the beholder." We've seen more than enough instances on this board, in the club, and IRL to confirm that 1000x times over.

RebeccaSolidarity
06-18-2008, 02:39 AM
i have to admit that i do support vain feelings up until a point.

being vain is totally fine so long as it does not come at the cost of having one ugly attitude. because i know plenty of folk who are vain who do not actually feel that they are all that attractive, at least not exceptionally so. they just tend to retake photographs over and over again or put way more effort into their appearance than they probably need to. those kind of vain feelings and behaviors i can totally get get behind because sometimes i have them to.

also i do not think that prettiness or beauty is fleeting at all. plenty of people remain smokin hot well into their old age, let alone their thirties or fourties. it comes down to how well a person takes care of herself or himself and wether or not their attitude remains attractive as well. hell, i daresay that women can and do remain even sexy well into their sixties or seventies. i still remember being thirteen and seeing chita rivera perform live as the spider woman in kiss of the spider woman and the role demanded a whole lot of sex appeal. and let me tell you what ... thirteen year old me has never forgotten it because good goddamn she was smokin. of course this picture is from a different later performance but she is definitely in her early seventies in that picture.

http://www.broadway.com/site_images/522583.jpg

it just takes a little more class down the line. a little more attitude, and we find ourselves relying upon the force of personalities more often but it is still beautiful and it can so be done. i think we just fool ourselves sometimes into believing that we cease being sexual after a certain age and therefore cease to be attractive as well. which is not true, though i am not going to get into a post about how old people totally still do it on the sneak. i am just trying to say that people are ill equipped by society to promote their own beauty later in life so few people learn the skills, which promotes a culture in which we mourn our 'lost physical beauty' way before it is even close to beginning its diminishment. and once we have mourned it the average person either goes crazy trying to preserve it or just give up on cultivating at all.

hooray for beautiful women knowing they will remain beautiful forever and therefore, well, remaining beautiful forever. different kind of beautiful maybe but who wants to spend their entire life worrying about adolescent fuck bunny beauty anyhow. that is not the stuff of steam and it never will be. maturation only makes us better.

(and no before anyone goes thinking it, i do not have an old lady fetish ...... i have a woman fetish)

loveandluxury
06-18-2008, 09:34 AM
yay go op- its great to be pretty! I agree! Enjoy it & make the most of it. Pretty is what pretty does :)

I'm still not used to all the pessimists here... geez get laid, get paid sh*t smile. must you kill all joy on the site?
fyi I won't duel online w jaded biotches. don't waste your time ((smile))


Don't you have a mirror somewhere to go look in? ::)

suprgrl22
06-18-2008, 01:30 PM
i started feeling bad for girls who had to flip burgers because they were fat or ugly


I think that's a huge misconception. First of all, I have worked with plenty of dancers that I thought were either fat, ugly, or both. On top of that, that's like saying she HAS to flip burgers b/c she is fat/ugly and if she wasn't fat/ugly then she would wise up and do something like we do that relies more on someones looks. Alot of people "flip burgers" or what have you and are beautiful. They choose to do that job. And often times those individuals may be the same ones who look at us and our jobs and think we are the ones who are ugly or worse.

I feel bad when I see someone that I feel isn't pretty or is overweight. But I don't think that they have to get a job in the service industry because of it. Finally, before I was a dancer (and between dancing) I worked as a restaurant server. I didn't do it b/c I was fat or ugly. I did it because that's where I had to be in life at that time before taking the next step and I'm a better person for it. I think everyone should have to serve tables for atleast two weeks of their lives.

kikidejavu
06-18-2008, 02:39 PM
i love this site.
i love how people jump to the conclusion that because i post about how much i love being pretty means i am an airhead.
i love how i am not a vapid ditz, and doubt i would ever actually say these things in real life, just online.
(no pics, my mommy doesnt know i dance)

I am for sure one of the smartest (bookwise, and commonsense wise) people youll ever meet. i have a roaring sense of humor, i am a great friend, a kind person, and a hard worker. im a sophmore in college for tv producing with all a's and b's
like most people said, having the best of both worlds is a great combination

i am sooo not a conceited person, i just recently started noticing my looks, and appreciating them. i am too aware they will not last forever and want to enjoy them while i do have them.
however i am glad for the many reminders that they are not what will keep people around, just maybe hook them.

btw i worked in fast food for 3 years, and was referring to girls who would like to do what we do, but dont have the option.

CuriousJ
06-18-2008, 03:18 PM
I liked the pretty thread but I knew it would get ugly lol.

miabella
06-18-2008, 03:50 PM
nearly every girl has the option to dance, in my experience (girls i have seen in the club, dancing and making money, not necessarily with extras). pretty had relatively little to do with it.

CinammonGirl
06-18-2008, 03:59 PM
I think I understand what the OP is saying.. it is easier to get your foot in the door w/ your looks and let the rest (intelligence, personality, etc) take over. Cinnamon and I have the same situation, though. Unless I'm going out, I don't do shit.. go to school in pj's. Looks always help, but they won't get you a successful and fulfilling life.



Yeah, it's just that nobody is worth impressing at school/work and it takes too much time..;) Especially when I'm up all night doing a paper..Dressing up just to go to a morning class can be exhausting. :-[

VegasPrincess
06-18-2008, 04:34 PM
. i started feeling bad for girls who had to flip burgers because they were fat or ugly
?

Just because you're fat or ugly doesn't mean you will end up at burgerking lol....have you ever seen a picture of Bill Gates?

jennahoff
06-18-2008, 05:22 PM
I really thought when i first read this post it was a joke.
Seriously??
Ok i can understand being appreciative of your own beauty and being grateful for it but thats about ALL i can understand in this post.

I dont even know where to begin about the flipping burgers remark. The people i usually see in burger king and mcdonalds are usually young guys that are manning the grill. Its certainly not all fat and ugly people geez.. i worked at an ice cream store when i was 16, wanna throw a stereotype out to that??

As far as going to a party with a group of ugly people...ehh, i have hott friends and i have some not so hott friends. I really dont give a shit whose walking into the "party" with me as long as i dont walk in alone to be honest.. ;)

Sure our looks play a part in our lives. But so do alot of other things. Id hate to be stuck on my looks. Cause they are gonna fade eventually anyways.

And if your religious and gonna pray maybe you should pray for OTHERS as well as yourself and your devastating beauty...

Christ i need a drink this thread takes the cake!

Havana
06-18-2008, 06:57 PM
Alot of people "flip burgers" or what have you and are beautiful. They choose to do that job. And often times those individuals may be the same ones who look at us and our jobs and think we are the ones who are ugly or worse.


Agreed 100%


The most beautiful girl I've ever seen in real life was my cashier at McDonald's one afternoon. Seriously, she was jaw droppingly gorgeous, not an ounce of makeup, hair pulled back....... it was almost surreal. Even through that horrible green shirt & tacky pants you could tell she had some killer curves on a petite little frame. & Still ions better looking than any stripper I've ever seen.

Peanut_Butter
06-18-2008, 07:18 PM
I think getting through life on your looks sucks. People never take the time to look past that at when else you have to offer. They assume and make judgements based on your looks, or if you try to show them other qualities, it's lke they just overlook that cause they are only focused on your looks.

I live in Las Vegas. everything here is about your looks, and they can take you far. But it sucks. I was hired at the hard rock casino as a cocktial waitress, with absolutly no experience. I didn't even know what different types of vodka were. They hired me on the spot. But then everyone assumes your just another dumb blonde.

I stopped getting pretty, because I realized the more effort I put int omy looks, the less effort people put into getting to know me and my other vry nice qualities.

and honestly, the girls that get by on their looks now are in for a rude awakening one day when the looks fade and they have no other skills or know how to deal with life cause they were so used to getting things handed to them.

KNowing how to talk yrou way out of a ticket is much more valuable than just batting yoru eyelashes.

anyway..i foudn a much better way of getting things I want than acting cute. Being polite, having manners and askign in an intelligent way will get you anything as well. Peopel respect your brain. they don't respect yoru looks. I'd rather have respect anyday ovr admiration.

TaylorMartini
06-18-2008, 11:13 PM
PRAY for every girl you that you see to be able to find some beauty in herself. In this society it is nearly impossible for any of us to feel attractive enough constantly being bombarded by an ideal that just rarely, if ever, exists. The movies, mags, advertising, etc all say :

Woman have to be skinny but not Nicole Ritchie skinny; tan but without actually tanning; have big lips but not fakey looking, have perfect hair but if your blonde your stereo-typed as dumb- and brunettes arent having any fun , red heads are fire crotches (what the F*ck color hair are we supposed to have?!) you gotta have nice big boobs -but , oh, isnt it so shallow to get a boob job!! We have to have babies and be skinny in 2 weeks and if your vagina isnt still attractive to the FATHER of which you created this holy miracle--- why not go get a vaginal rejuvination **There's a sale, Getcha new vajajay here!** As if your body hasnt been thru enough already?! (What if after childbirth we instead required the MAN get a penis enlargement to satisfy our changed body?) Oh yeah, we need to be successful and have these great careers which require an expensive college degree and GOD FORBID you had to strip to pay for it!!! Hide that info for the rest of your adult life b/c your husbands' friends will think of you differently (dirty-ly) and their wives will think you a big whore.

What i'm saying is this: We all gotta have each others' backs and if you pulled the genetic lottery card and are hot- enjoy that:yes: it will and can make life easier for you, but don't judge or pity other girls that maybe arent so attractive (to you)... maybe just give 'em a smile and know that it's a long, hard race ... and in the end... its only with yourself~

VegasPrincess
06-18-2008, 11:30 PM
I would have to say that later in life (I just turned 26) it comes up that basing your whole life on "pretty" pretty much blows.

I am a dancer, a phone sex girl, and a bartender in a place where you have to basically be a model to get hired. I have realized at this point in my life, my whole world and financial security revolves around being pretty...

Again, as a younger person, I was too niave to realize that people were nice to me, etc, based on my looks. Now that I am older I have really become afraid of what could possibly happen to me later, and am trying to find other work. It ain't all its crakced up to be, all I'm saying...

twisterinAZ
06-19-2008, 01:58 AM
i love this site.
i love how people jump to the conclusion that because i post about how much i love being pretty means i am an airhead.
i love how i am not a vapid ditz, and doubt i would ever actually say these things in real life, just online.
(no pics, my mommy doesnt know i dance)

I am for sure one of the smartest (bookwise, and commonsense wise) people youll ever meet. i have a roaring sense of humor, i am a great friend, a kind person, and a hard worker. im a sophmore in college for tv producing with all a's and b's
like most people said, having the best of both worlds is a great combination

i am sooo not a conceited person, i just recently started noticing my looks, and appreciating them. i am too aware they will not last forever and want to enjoy them while i do have them.
however i am glad for the many reminders that they are not what will keep people around, just maybe hook them.

btw i worked in fast food for 3 years, and was referring to girls who would like to do what we do, but dont have the option.

Oh yeah . Your intelligence really shines through your impeccable spelling,sentence structure, punctuation and capitalization.::)

Good thing you're pretty !

xdamage
06-19-2008, 04:38 AM
We had a discussion on the blue side once about do people treat you different (aka better) if you are attractive.

I argued you bet it's an advantage. It's an advantage much like an advantage of being a majority race, or being a male was/is when looking for certain kinds of jobs, or being born with lucky genes making you big and strong if you want to play sports, etc.

All of these traits are genetic luck of the draw. None of us chose our genes. So for example, I had advantages growing up being a white male, relatively tall, good at certain intellectual pursuits, etc. And I did benefit from those advantages.

That said, I don't think there is anything wrong with people enjoying their genetic advantages in life as long as they realize that:

o Advantages are often time limited (we all grow older).

o We don't confuse our luck with some false sense that we are owed it or deserved it. Our genetic traits are pure luck. Now if you work out too, work hard, try hard, well those we can take some credit for, but even so, we should be aware that it is easier to try hard to improve when we are lucky enough to have a good starting point. For those who do not, its true they should still try but also understandable why some feel it is hopeless. On their best days they would not look as good or be as strong as some others on their worst.

o Remember it could all go POOF in a heartbeat. A car accident. A fire. An illness. We are fragile.

o Remember that others do treat us differently based on our advantages. We should be aware of it because it will change and it is quite a sad thing to see someone who goes through life unaware of this and then wakes up and can't understand why everyone else has changed.

Lena
06-19-2008, 04:54 AM
I read something recently that was a study of teenage girls diaries from the 1990's compared to the 1800's. The biggest difference was that girls from the 1800's would write: "I want to be a better person. I am going to try to ask people questions about themselves and not talk about myself. I'll do chores and not complain. I'll be nice to someone who's sad." and girls from the 90's would write: "I want to be a better person. I will do 100 situps a day and run on the treadmill and only eat cabbage soup."

I appreciate my looks for what they get me, but superficial people really turn me off. Like, really, you wouldn't go to a party with someone you thought was ugly? That's pretty ugly.

mollyzmoon
06-19-2008, 05:15 AM
^^That is so, so true. I remember one of the first times I read Austen, I was struck by all her moral lessons. All the things people do that are 'rude', and I thought 'holy shit, I'm guilty of all of that.' How it's rude to complain, to talk about yourself, etc. How it makes a person incredibly boring. It's true.

I also agree about the insistence that all your friends be pretty. Wtf.

CuriousSeeker
06-19-2008, 07:17 AM
On looks, life, and attractiveness, since this thread is going in a few directions, and Rebecca's post resonated for me:

I shit you not that Fridah Kahlo's and George Elliot's lives helped me resolve a lot of conflicts on these issues, especially when I began to realize that being ill was more likely than not going to trash my appearance in a way that my counterparts wouldn't experience.

Elliot married John Cross, who was over twenty years younger than she (Demi, you ain't news). She has been described as unbelievably hideous (http://books.google.com/books?id=GvskG8CjuqoC&pg=PA1&lpg=PA1&dq=george+elliot+ugly+henry&source=web&ots=HTSq45oBEV&sig=UEmYnluWH53Kv09PMX7n9dGFLOk&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result), and sketches of her bear that out. Elliot's face looks like a cross between a horse and a foot.

However, there was an enormous sex appeal about this woman that just reeled 'em in, including a few married and famous ones, if the combo of story and documented facts about her life are to be believed. Nonetheless, this woman had some serious primal mojo, so she was...hot. It got her things, "unearned" without a doubt, but it wasn't conventional beauty, and it was something more than physicality.

Y'all know what Frida looked like, and she was disabled and in chronic pain to boot. One of her students described being near her as pure heat, just energy coming off her. Insert here all the remarks above about sex appeal and mojo for Frida.

Side note: I'm convinced that it is this type of mojo and the ability to tap into it, and not model looks, that allows some dancers in my club to get strings of pricey CRs, while others do not because certainly no one is lacking in the looks department. Given a choice, I'll take the mojo over the looks, since one keeps getting better as time moves on (but, yeah, I'll probably be unable to resist looking into Botox and a nose job ::) ).

Djoser
06-19-2008, 07:17 AM
PRAY for every girl you that you see to be able to find some beauty in herself. In this society it is nearly impossible for any of us to feel attractive enough constantly being bombarded by an ideal that just rarely, if ever, exists. The movies, mags, advertising, etc all say...

Very true, and it's happening to men now, too. Without steroids, most men couldn't even come close to the ideal conception of male beauty being foisted on the masses. Plus we have to be rich, or at least have nice cars.



I confess to being a vain motherfucker. And I am also aware that my looks have gotten me ahead in several ways as far as business is concerned. It's pretty much a scientific fact that an attractive, well-groomed person of either sex will get the job/contract/deal before an unattractive person with the same qualifications or evidence of ability.

What's weird is, being the penultimate Late Bloomer I get more attention now than I ever have before, unless I just woke up maybe. But then having gone through a very rough junior high experience, I know full well how important it is to feel good about yourself regardless of whether everyone is laughing at you every day all day long.


... maybe just give 'em a smile and know that it's a long, hard race ... and in the end... its only with yourself~

The most cogent observation in this entire thread...

suprgrl22
06-19-2008, 07:19 AM
nearly every girl has the option to dance, in my experience (girls i have seen in the club, dancing and making money, not necessarily with extras). pretty had relatively little to do with it.


I totally agree! I've seen dwarf dancers! Dwarfs! And really really really biguns too.

CinammonGirl
06-19-2008, 09:33 AM
Like, really, you wouldn't go to a party with someone you thought was ugly? That's pretty ugly.



Yeah and to be honest..my average to below average looking friends have gotten more attention at parties just because of their personality/humor and there was always some guy at a party that found them attractive.

We're all just there to have a good time. :P

TheSexKitten
06-19-2008, 11:25 AM
I am for sure one of the smartest (bookwise, and commonsense wise) people youll ever meet. im a sophmore in college for tv producing with all a's and b's

Oh my, I'm SO impressed! ::)

cutey5032
06-19-2008, 11:26 AM
That whole thing with the my-friends-have-to-be-hot-as-me is such crap. In my high school these girls called themselves "NUFS"---No Ugly Friends Society. Ugh. I love my friends, some are seriously ugly or hugely fat or have hideous clothing, some are plastic-surgery obsessed, designer everything supermodel-looking. Doesn't really matter to me.

School wasn't my thing (I am book-dumb but life-smart), so being attractive is something I am thankful for. I have ALWAYS relied on my looks to make a living, ever since I was 16 and worked at a Hooters-type bar. If I didn't have decent looks/know how to take care of myself and how to charm people, I'd have been seriously fucked.

muhuwahaha
06-19-2008, 11:45 AM
That whole thing with the my-friends-have-to-be-hot-as-me is such crap. In my high school these girls called themselves "NUFS"---No Ugly Friends Society. Ugh. I love my friends, some are seriously ugly or hugely fat or have hideous clothing, some are plastic-surgery obsessed, designer everything supermodel-looking. Doesn't really matter to me.

School wasn't my thing (I am book-dumb but life-smart), so being attractive is something I am thankful for. I have ALWAYS relied on my looks to make a living, ever since I was 16 and worked at a Hooters-type bar. If I didn't have decent looks/know how to take care of myself and how to charm people, I'd have been seriously fucked.

or your human survival instincts would've kicked in and you would've started being book smart.

That, or start doing and dealing drugs.

Samba
06-19-2008, 11:51 AM
^^that was pointless.

Honestly, I think pretty girls are a dime a dozen. And, it seems pointless to be proud of something you have nothing to do with. I mean, anyone can learn to play up her assets, but basically being pretty is luck of the draw. If it's number one on someone's list of their best qualities, well, that doesn't say much for you.

cutey5032
06-19-2008, 11:52 AM
^Oh, fuck you. You can't just start being book-smart....I'm a slow learner when it comes to school. I tried very hard in high school, did ok, but it did not come easily. College was a different story.
So, my human survival instincts kicked in and I realized I'd make more money off my looks than I could off my smarts.::)

ETA not you samba!! ;)

RoseLeigh
06-19-2008, 12:04 PM
^Oh, fuck you. You can't just start being book-smart....I'm a slow learner when it comes to school. I tried very hard in high school, did ok, but it did not come easily. College was a different story.
So, my human survival instincts kicked in and I realized I'd make more money off my looks than I could off my smarts.::)

ETA not you samba!! ;)

It's the same thing with guys. My little bro IS quite cute, but he's also a bruiser. He was never great in school and got pushed through , so he realized he needed to make his way by his muscles and now works in LE. He gets through with a mix of disarmingly cute and beating your ass. And he's not just your average cop in a car-he's actually gotten quite far. Everyone has their thing.

Lexi
06-19-2008, 12:04 PM
This thread is fucking hilarious.

Where is the punchline? Anyone?

Alia_of_the_Knife
06-19-2008, 12:05 PM
^^that was pointless.

Honestly, I think pretty girls are a dime a dozen.

Very true. We live in a world of 6 billion people. Many of us went to high school with thousands of people and live in cities of millions. It's not like back in the day where people had small villages and maybe one girl might have most of her teeth so she was the "hawt" one. Being pretty is nice, but it's nothing special, it generally won't break or make someone's life, and it will fade in time.

And that's it. I've never did this with any other poster on stripperweb but I'm putting muhuwahaha on iggy.

Samba
06-19-2008, 12:12 PM
Here's the punchline:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8FAwMpR6D4&feature=related

Allice
06-19-2008, 12:29 PM
OP, look at what you said and how you worded it.

It's good that you can see how being attractive has made your life easier. It DOES make life easier, in certain regards.

I was always told I was pretty growing up (honestly don't/didn't really see it at all, but, eh) and I used to ENVY the girls who were good at math, who were faster than me (I was a runner), less socially awkward, etc. I didn't feel pity for anyone, first off because I never really found myself to be more attractive, and secondly because they had qualities that I would have loved to have, and I knew their life was going to be easier/better/what-have-you because of those traits. My point of view on this has never really changed, so I can't feel you on this.

Point being, it's the "those poor ugly girls" attitude that your post conveyed that was, well, unattractive. Intended or not.

muhuwahaha
06-19-2008, 12:39 PM
I <3 ya'll

jaizaine
06-19-2008, 12:40 PM
Oh yeah . Your intelligence really shines through your impeccable spelling,sentence structure, punctuation and capitalization.::)

Good thing you're pretty !

LMAO......I was gonna say it but you beat me to it hehehe.

What sort of a person chooses friends based on their appearance? Looks dont even factor into why I would choose to be friends with a person.

There are plenty of very attractive women who are members of this site, thank goodness there is more to like about them than that or this site would read like a boring teeny-bopper high school forum.

greggy
06-19-2008, 02:18 PM
Here's the punchline:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8FAwMpR6D4&feature=related


lol, that's totally it!

All Good Things
06-19-2008, 04:00 PM
It's pretty much a scientific fact that an attractive, well-groomed person of either sex will get the job/contract/deal before an unattractive person with the same qualifications or evidence of ability.

Right. But the really interesting aspect of this is that the advantage is much more strongly manifested with males. It's because they are less likely to have to deal with the "gorgeous, must be stupid" stereotype that's foisted on attractive women by, uh, males.

There is a huge swath of the adult male population terrified of intelligent women. The assumption of stupidity is a form of self-delusion, but it creeps into the culture in insidious ways. Many studies show that gorgeous women are judged by randomly selected males to be less likely to be intelligent than are less attractive women. A similar bias does not exist with males. In fact, attractive men are judged by other women to likely be more intelligent.

Also, it's not your imagination: There are far, far more beautiful women than there are attractive men in the population at large.

I could give a natural selection explanation of why this is, but it just bores everybody to death because I get exceedingly long-winded with no warning at all and they will stop reading out of pure exasperation. :)


What's weird is, being the penultimate Late Bloomer I get more attention now than I ever have before, unless I just woke up maybe. But then having gone through a very rough junior high experience, I know full well how important it is to feel good about yourself regardless of whether everyone is laughing at you every day all day long.

Late bloomers rock. Both men and women. It's because they are able to develop a strong character -- one that can withstand cruelty and hostility and unpredictability and still bounce back -- with all the other advantages then coming later on top of that: Your new and improved look, or a wicked sense of humor or an irresistible charm. Or pole tricks! :)

twisterinAZ
06-20-2008, 03:26 AM
^^^ I'm curious where you are getting your references ? Men's Health doesn't count.

head turner
06-20-2008, 05:03 AM
I appreciate my looks for what they get me, but superficial people really turn me off. Like, really, you wouldn't go to a party with someone you thought was ugly? That's pretty ugly.


agreed 100 percent!!

cutey5032
06-20-2008, 08:01 AM
I agree with TOO with the whole there are more attractive women than men thing. Why can't there be a "dime a dozen" hot guys?!?!? wtf

madmaxine
06-20-2008, 09:08 AM
Plus, good looks can be a curse when others get jealous of you and try to plot against you, girls don't want to be friends with you, guys are intimidated by you, or they just like you only for how you look......

:yes: Speak it, sister.

I would like to point out not all exceptionally beautiful women are rotten inside. The short story is about how they were raised and whether they needed to use their looks to get by- or not. Every guy wants the sheltered pretty girl- easier to jerk around, arm candy with less headaches.

It's also situational- often the prettiest girl in a random Midwestern town won't measure up to a random beach bunny in Southern California. Different cultures have different standards.

MsQwerty
06-20-2008, 09:11 AM
The point I am trying to make isn't that by the time you hit your 30s and 40s you're not pretty.



Thanks ::)

Tosser ;D

Oh and dumb thread!

All Good Things
06-20-2008, 10:26 AM
^^^ I'm curious where you are getting your references ? Men's Health doen't count.

Some of it is classical natural selection.

Which piece of information would you like me to validate? I should be able to give you links to something that would work for you. Just let me know.

My post is pretty hard on men -- I doubt Men's Health would run something like that. I've ghosted a couple articles for Bride's Magazine (yeah, they really have articles -- surprised the hell out of me, too) and I'm generally much better with that demographic. ;D

lestat1
06-20-2008, 10:29 AM
I've often wondered how much intelligence I'd be willing to trade for more attractiveness. Sure, the intellect stays (well, at least until senility kicks in) while the looks fade, but the confidence and self-esteem that would've developed as a result of attractiveness I think would take me further in life than my high-intellect and low self-esteem have taken me. I have a decent job. That's it; that's what I got for all of my studying hard, 4.0 GPA (twice), etc. It hasn't brought me happiness, love, or contentment in life. Yeah, I'd make a trade.

madmaxine
06-20-2008, 10:35 AM
I've often wondered how much intelligence I'd be willing to trade for more attractiveness. Sure, the intellect stays (well, at least until senility kicks in) while the looks fade, but the confidence and self-esteem that would've developed as a result of attractiveness I think would take me further in life than my high-intellect and low self-esteem have taken me. I have a decent job. That's it; that's what I got for all of my studying hard, 4.0 GPA (twice), etc. It hasn't brought me happiness, love, or contentment in life. Yeah, I'd make a trade.

Maybe it's not as bad as you think- IMO, I never go for "pretty boys" (the joke is they can't look better than me) and I hate a dumb dude. IMO intelligent people just have too much time and motivation to dwell on this issue....& Western culture is so superficial. Many cultures around the world do not place AS HIGH a value on physical beauty.

Dr. House on "House" is a great example of the militantly bitter unhappy smart man. But he's not entirely unattractive. I just wish he'd eat a sandwich...

(PS Lestat1...Get thee to !)