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lilymiaomiao
06-26-2008, 10:04 PM
I would say i consider myself a subscriber of Taoist/Buddhist beliefs, but i disagree with some versions of teachings, or the specifics of certain branches, etc. I'm sure plenty of Taoists or Zen Buddhists could or would argue that stripping conflicts with a peace of mind.
Good for you, deciding what you believe in, and not what others tell you!

I would still like to become a nun sometime, maybe a little later in life.

Electrum
06-27-2008, 05:52 AM
A bit off topic but I just couldn't believe this happened to me last night-

I'm still in disbelieve but there is a freakin' preacher who works as a bouncer at my club!!! Before I even knew this about him, he took me aside and started telling me about my life (prophesying). He told me that it's the Holy Spirit who tells him these things, and he was right on about the details. Normally something like this would freak me out but I'm getting kind of used to these "coincidences." He showed me his IDs proving that he is a pastor! I'm even going to go see him preach sometime!! WEEIIRRRDDD!!!!! LOL

Jayde81
06-28-2008, 09:42 PM
u no wat? if u dont mind sharing with custies that you r a virgin and a christian that could actually be a money maker in the clubs. when i first worked in a club the dancers there told me i looked so innocent on stage and thats why i got so many dances from custies. u could def use it to your advantage.

kokani82
06-29-2008, 07:00 PM
It's probably not any different than being married or committed or monogamous and being a stripper, right? No worries!

ViolaStrings
06-29-2008, 07:29 PM
I would be wary of telling people you were a virgin. Some weird asshole is going to try to force finger you, because believe it or not - you will be dancing for some potential SCUMBAGS who would salivate at the idea of a hymen. You would be better off keeping that to yourself IMHO for a lot of reasons.

Jayde81
06-29-2008, 07:45 PM
^^^ yeah on seconds thoughts i actually agree with this.

sexyi86
07-02-2008, 02:44 PM
I would be wary of telling people you were a virgin. Some weird asshole is going to try to force finger you, because believe it or not - you will be dancing for some potential SCUMBAGS who would salivate at the idea of a hymen. You would be better off keeping that to yourself IMHO for a lot of reasons.
Yucky...creeps :(

UtahMike
07-02-2008, 08:50 PM
If you dance nude, they will know ... or at least, suspect.

Jayde81
07-02-2008, 10:32 PM
If you dance nude, they will know ... or at least, suspect.

how would they suspect anything? u cant see a chicks hymen when she bends over :D

Electrum
07-03-2008, 08:00 AM
^^ You might be able to, but then there are chicks like me who have what appears to be hymen tissue but it's actually a rare extra set of lips that just mimic a hymen. When it comes to vaginas, there is SO much variety I doubt you could tell unless the guy is a freakin' gynecologist.

carmen_b
07-03-2008, 12:22 PM
^ They wouldn't suspect anything .... they aren't exactly given a magnifying glass and a flashlight when stageside ( usually ... perhaps in some clubs they are ! ). Even if they had the tools I described ... they still wouldn't know !

Since dancing is about the illusion of being sexual available and doesn't have a lot to do with actually being sexually available, you should do just fine.

UtahMike
07-03-2008, 01:58 PM
I am just going to keep my mouth shut like I should have in the first place.

carmen_b
07-03-2008, 02:05 PM
^ I was teasing you Mike ( sarcasm comes across rough on the net sometimes ). That was a joke.

Your info seems a little off anatomy wise. I assure you they would have no clue whatsover , but I was simply teasing, not being mean.

CKXXX
07-04-2008, 08:31 AM
Not only will they not be able to tell,nude or not,but many virgins dont have hymens. Some women are born without,some break theirs using tampons or horseback riding or what have you.

Pics below...you have to be pretty close and the lips have to be spread apart to see it...if it is still there.

i.breathe.in
07-04-2008, 10:23 AM
Not only will they not be able to tell,nude or not,but many virgins dont have hymens. Some women are born without,some break theirs using tampons or horseback riding or what have you.

Pics below...you have to be pretty close and the lips have to be spread apart to see it...if it is still there.

wow! i dont think i ever had one, i certainly dont recall! interesting to see what it looks like it hought it would be thicker...

kaiarose
07-04-2008, 10:25 AM
Not only will they not be able to tell,nude or not,but many virgins dont have hymens. Some women are born without,some break theirs using tampons or horseback riding or what have you.

Pics below...you have to be pretty close and the lips have to be spread apart to see it...if it is still there.


That's so weird! I don't think I had one either. I know I didn't bleed my first time.

CKXXX
07-04-2008, 12:43 PM
wow! i dont think i ever had one, i certainly dont recall! interesting to see what it looks like it hought it would be thicker...
In some women it is thicker then others,but even so,its still usually fairly thin...enough so that many women break it without even knowing just from playing sports or using tampons. Many dont bleed much either...some not at all..when they break. And if you break it using a tampon..you'd never know...if there was blood,you'd think it was just period blood and if there was any pain,it would be passed off as cramps.

I dont think I bled the first time either...I didnt use tampons back then,but I was a tomboy as a kid so who knows if I broke it then or just never had one.I have no idea.

So if some women dont know what it looks like or when they broke it...a guy..esp a guy looking at your vagina unspread and not touching..would NEVER know.

Sophia_Ashley
07-04-2008, 12:58 PM
Not only will they not be able to tell,nude or not,but many virgins dont have hymens. Some women are born without,some break theirs using tampons or horseback riding or what have you.

Pics below...you have to be pretty close and the lips have to be spread apart to see it...if it is still there.

Omg I never knew what one looked like! I thought it would be thicker skin or something. Wow thankyou CK seriously. I feel a lot more educated now

RoseLeigh
07-04-2008, 01:03 PM
how would they suspect anything? u cant see a chicks hymen when she bends over :D

Is 'virgin vag' supposed to look different? Is that one of those ' oh, it looks beat up.' sort of deals? Ew.

Vyanka
07-06-2008, 12:42 PM
Not only will they not be able to tell,nude or not,but many virgins dont have hymens. Some women are born without,some break theirs using tampons or horseback riding or what have you.

Pics below...you have to be pretty close and the lips have to be spread apart to see it...if it is still there.

Looking at that made me cringe. Never saw one before. I know mine was def. thick though, it took a couple of hours to rip. And I def. felt it too... so uncomfortable. :ill:

Electrum
07-10-2008, 06:58 PM
^^ Mine was much thicker too. I KNOW when it broke lol. The first time we tried to break it I couldn't handle it. It took a second try awhile later... and I bled. I wish I had taken before and after pictures lol.

Corgan
07-10-2008, 09:53 PM
i remember exploring my stuff when i was 9 or so, and i don't remember seeing anything likea hymen.

Perry
07-10-2008, 10:03 PM
I lost the damn thing on a roller coaster when I was 9. Damn you, Splash Mountain! Damn you!

Sophia_Starina
07-11-2008, 04:26 AM
Everytime I see this thread pop up I think of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sA52_bJxcJ4

bem401
07-11-2008, 06:02 AM
your job of stimulating men sexually (that whole stripping in clubs thing) conflicts with your Christianity, it is the same kind of sin as if you were having sex outside of marriage. you're encouraging adultery and lust, and that encouragement is also sexual sin.

Mia is correct in what she says, at least for Catholicism. Those who say that's "her" type of religion are wrong. The teachings are the teachings and one is free to agree with them or disagree with them but members of the faith cannot choose which rules they will follow and which they will not and still consider them a member in good standing. That's called being a "cafeteria catholic".

Jenny
07-11-2008, 06:20 AM
Mia is correct in what she says, at least for Catholicism. Those who say that's "her" type of religion are wrong. The teachings are the teachings and one is free to agree with them or disagree with them but members of the faith cannot choose which rules they will follow and which they will not and still consider them a member in good standing. That's called being a "cafeteria catholic".And yet - it is what the vast, vast majority of Catholics do all the time; if they are all being excommunicated... let's just say that they are not all being excommunicated. I would suggest that the argument that religion must be whole-hog or nothing is dated, regressive and completely excludes progressive and reformist branches of religion.

bem401
07-11-2008, 06:37 AM
And yet - it is what the vast, vast majority of Catholics do all the time; if they are all being excommunicated... let's just say that they are not all being excommunicated. I would suggest that the argument that religion must be whole-hog or nothing is dated, regressive and completely excludes progressive and reformist branches of religion.

Jenny- unfortunately you and I do not get to determine what the Catholic Church teaches and demands of its followers ( and that's the only religion I am able to comment on ). Quite simply, you cannot call yourself a practicing Catholic and be a stripper or a customer. Neither the dancer nor the customer can have it both ways. Personally, I no longer actively follow my religion but were I ever to embrace it, I would be forced to address the SC issue and my visits are mild in terms of what sins i might be committing when visiting.

No arguments here either about what the vast majority do. I've been told by my religious friends that they are commiting a greater offense in the eyes of God by participating half-way in the church, as that makes them hypocrites.

UtahMike
07-11-2008, 09:18 PM
Since I am a bit overweight, does this mean that the servers and the chefs at my favorite restaurants are guilty of tempting me to lose my eternal soul because of the sin of gluttony?

Do the cosmetologists and purveyors of makeup tempt their customers into the sin of vanity?

As to being Catholic, doesn't going to Confession take care of your sins after you have done the penance? I've known lots of Catholics who go on sinning their sins, whatever they are, and the Church doesn't turn them away.

Jenny
07-11-2008, 09:59 PM
Jenny- unfortunately you and I do not get to determine what the Catholic Church teaches and demands of its followers ( and that's the only religion I am able to comment on ). No. I am merely pointing out a) that there are reformist and progressive Catholics, same as in any other religions and that they exist as an issue of fact and b) as I said before if a Catholic went to confession and confessed to being a stripper, a customer, a prostitute or any number of bad things they would be given a penance and told they shouldn't, but they wouldn't be excommunicated. The priest will not throw them out of the church You absolutely can be a practicing Catholic and be a stripper. And if 90% of Catholics are being Catholic in a certain way it is imbecility to declare them all to be null and void because they are not as orthodox as you think religious people should be.

bem401
07-12-2008, 12:25 PM
No. I am merely pointing out a) that there are reformist and progressive Catholics, same as in any other religions and that they exist as an issue of fact and b) as I said before if a Catholic went to confession and confessed to being a stripper, a customer, a prostitute or any number of bad things they would be given a penance and told they shouldn't, but they wouldn't be excommunicated. The priest will not throw them out of the church You absolutely can be a practicing Catholic and be a stripper. And if 90% of Catholics are being Catholic in a certain way it is imbecility to declare them all to be null and void because they are not as orthodox as you think religious people should be.

First off, this has nothing to do with what I think. I am only relaying what the Church teaches.

I have been taught you are only forgiven if you are truly sorry for the offense and try not to re-offend. Therefore, a dancer who has "found God" and quits dancing would get forgiveness. A dancer who goes to confession knowing full well she was going to be back on stage the next night would not. You have to intend, or at the very least try, not to re-offend. Otherwise it isn't valid. The first thing a Catholic says when entering the confessional is the "Act of Contrition". I don't know your religion , but correct me if I am wrong: the last sentence of that prayer goes something like this " I firmly resolve, with the help of Thy Grace, to sin no more and avoid the near occasion of sin". That would seem to me to be pretty much a promise not to visit a SC (among other things) if you are a person of faith.
If you say that and don't mean it, you just committed another sin.

As far as reformist and progressive Catholics, are concerned, in the eyes of the Church, they are not Catholics. I know there are congregations who deviate from Church teachings but if they deviate from what the Pope teaches, they do so at their own peril. A "true" Catholic cannot support abortion, engage in premarital or homosexual sex, or frequent a SC, among other things. Just because the presiding bishop or the Vatican don't excommunicate them doesn't mean they're getting a pass. The ultimate judgment comes when you die ( or so it is taught).

Please don't anyone turn this into an attack on me. I am not passing judgment or preaching , just relaying my understanding of what is taught. Personally, I reluctantly attend one mass per year in memory of my late father and only do that to keep the peace withing my family.

happygiggles
07-12-2008, 12:57 PM
i move that this topic be closed.

nicole84
07-12-2008, 01:05 PM
^^^I agree, this has become totally non-productive

Jenny
07-12-2008, 01:55 PM
bem - I'm sorry, but you can't just declare all non-orthodox religious people non-participants in a religion. That is just not... accurate. And not every progressive Catholic institution is shut down, much less excommunicated. And I seriously doubt the church would agree that every Catholic who commits a sin is a non-catholic. You're arguing that Catholic strippers are bad Catholics, which is different and, frankly, I don't think it is up to you to determine; it seems that would be an issue between them, their priest and their god. I would suggest that we let the non-orthodox religious people work out their commitment to religion with officials of the church, rather than declaring their religious conviction to be void on a message board. That's just... bizarrely controlling and pretty presumptuous of you.

greenidlady1
07-12-2008, 02:10 PM
Not only will they not be able to tell,nude or not,but many virgins dont have hymens. Some women are born without,some break theirs using tampons or horseback riding or what have you.

Pics below...you have to be pretty close and the lips have to be spread apart to see it...if it is still there.

Here is a pic I found showing a hymen as well. This girl doesn't have a very big labia minora but I'd think most girls would have to spread the labia minora apart to show their vaginal oriface or hymen. I don't think most guys are going to know what one looks like.

ViolaStrings
07-12-2008, 02:28 PM
^ blargh PUBES

bem401
07-12-2008, 05:00 PM
bem - I'm sorry, but you can't just declare all non-orthodox religious people non-participants in a religion. That is just not... accurate. And not every progressive Catholic institution is shut down, much less excommunicated. And I seriously doubt the church would agree that every Catholic who commits a sin is a non-catholic. You're arguing that Catholic strippers are bad Catholics, which is different and, frankly, I don't think it is up to you to determine; it seems that would be an issue between them, their priest and their god. I would suggest that we let the non-orthodox religious people work out their commitment to religion with officials of the church, rather than declaring their religious conviction to be void on a message board. That's just... bizarrely controlling and pretty presumptuous of you.

Jenny- I'm only repeating what 12 years of Catholic school and conversations with serious Catholics has taught me. I'm not passing judgment , being presumptuous, or controlling anyone. After all, I've decided not to actively follow the teachings myself.

Lysondra
07-12-2008, 05:11 PM
I'm trying to figure out how they found an 18+ girl with a hymen still intact that wanted to show photos of her pussy...

rosealy
07-14-2008, 05:08 PM
I would still like anybody to see and translate Romans 7 starting at verse 7.

The best translation I ever heard of it states "Do as thow wilt" and no law shall hold back your forgivness of God, which has been given freely

bem401
07-15-2008, 05:20 AM
I would still like anybody to see and translate Romans 7 starting at verse 7.

The best translation I ever heard of it states "Do as thow wilt" and no law shall hold back your forgivness of God, which has been given freely

That's right. The teachings are that God will always forgive you provided you are truly sorry for what you did and you make attempts to better yourself by not recommiting. It does not mean you can do whatever you want all week long, go to confession on the weekend, be forgiven, and continue with the same behavior week after week. If I make my living mugging people, I cannot mug people Mon to Fri , get absolution on Saturday, and go back to mugging on Monday, particularly if I know I am going to mug people again when I make the confession. I've been told that invalidates the confession.

If you could do what you want all the time, what would be the point of having any rules in the first place?

3
07-15-2008, 05:52 PM
There is only one point of laws, that is to regulate morality to what the whole believes is moral for that time period. There is only one universal law that we should all abide in, that is LOVE. We are to love everybody (not in the same way). There are many types of love;

Agape- charitable, selfless, and unconditional. Best described at parental love

Phileo- similar to Agape, Best described as brotherly love

Eros- Known as Sexual and intimate love

and Elom- The love of God (in any/all forms)

The Phrase "Do What Thou Wilt" mainly comes from Thelma Law / philosophy. but if you dive deeper into that, we are to do that, and we are to let others do the same, all under LOVE. Given the example above, if you were to make mugging your living, you would not be acting out of love, and taking someones money that they willed for other things besides you. If they wanted to act out of love for entertainment and give you their money of their free will and your free will to accept the money, all acting out of love (NOT Eros Love, unless that is what all party's involved free will allows)

Back to the main topic,
Will you be at a dis-advantage being a virgin; YES, because your occupation is there to act in a fantasy role for people, there are many helpful people out there, if you are willing to take that information and weigh it to your own self, and accept what you will consider right.
Can you use that to your advantage; YES, but as it has been stated before, you will get that perverted/drunk/messed-up person that will try to take advantage of your "inexperience" and use that to their own advantage, they are not acting out of Love.
If you wish to look up anything, look under Romans 7:7-25, 1 John 4:7-13, and the Song of Solomen