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Sarah Andi
06-25-2008, 01:49 AM
Ha! So you are the person who gave me the finger yesterday on 35 ;)

FBR

If you were driving a Hummer, it quite possibly was me!

phillyvixen
06-25-2008, 06:39 AM
You have obviously not spent enough time in suburban NJ(& not just NJ) to appreciate our particular brand of slovenly, large car having douchebags, nor spent time leaning on your horn while two fine examples of adolescent male lean ourt their windows (on opposite sides of the street) to discuss the finer points of the Kappa Something Something party the other night. Sorry but quite often the person driving the tool-mobile is indeed, a tool. Except Mr & Mrs Phillyvixen.

I love you :-*

scarymary77
06-25-2008, 09:24 AM
if people are worried about safety on the road in smaller cars and use that as a reason to buy an suv, the best solution is one of the old late 70s/early 80s 240, gl or dl volvos.


that particular frame is tough as hell. you WILL survive an accident in that better than an suv. my mom's been through an accident in one and a pickup truck smashed in it's entire front (read: had to be towed) and my mom didnt have a scratch on her car! seriously, those old volvos (pre-late 80s 700 models) are the best for snow and safety. later models are not as good, design-wise.

not the best on gas mileage and repairs are a bitch (parts arent easy to find and it's best to go to a specialist) but they do have a old diesel model for biodiesel fuels. the downside: volvo is now owned by ford = crap.

another problem i see is suvs flipping over. this is due to sitting up higher which does not equal safer. sturdy (like the volvo) equals safer. i recently rented a chevy cobalt and compared to my older car, it felt like i was driving a flimsy plastic soda bottle on the highway. plus, the gas mileage wasnt as good as my car.

snow white
06-25-2008, 11:59 PM
You have obviously not spent enough time in suburban NJ(& not just NJ) to appreciate our particular brand of slovenly, large car having douchebags, nor spent time leaning on your horn while two fine examples of adolescent male lean ourt their windows (on opposite sides of the street) to discuss the finer points of the Kappa Something Something party the other night. Sorry but quite often the person driving the tool-mobile is indeed, a tool. Except Mr & Mrs Phillyvixen.

lol i love your humour! i must have missed them when i was on the east coast. i had more issues with tourists and pedestrians than anyone else. ironically these same people you describe are more often than not driving around in little honda civics here. in fact, i had two flip me off and mouth obsceneties to me today because i was driving the speed limit in the right lane. appearantly i should be doing 100 in the fast lane with my stereo blasting, just like them. oh and lets not forget to drop a few K lowering the car and getting flashy rims....because were all bout practicality here :P. people are silly.

VegasPrincess
06-26-2008, 12:15 AM
I still wish somebody would send me their gas guzzler before winter next year lol. :( I couldn't even get my car out of the driveway last winter.

Please, people who buy SUVS to show off SEND THEM TO WISCONSIN. I will send you my Eclipse in return ......

DeftonesGrl
06-26-2008, 11:23 AM
Rear wheel in Wisconsin weather was.....interesting.My mom used to drive a Camaro in MKE and would call it her "Rollerskate" because it slid around everywhere....

Yekhefah
06-26-2008, 11:28 AM
if people are worried about safety on the road in smaller cars and use that as a reason to buy an suv, the best solution is one of the old late 70s/early 80s 240, gl or dl volvos.


that particular frame is tough as hell. you WILL survive an accident in that better than an suv.

Hell yeah. When I was 16, I totalled a 1983 Volvo station wagon. That was one hell of a wreck, as you can imagine, because the car was a steel TANK. I walked away without a single bruise. The cop and the mechanic both told my stepfather that I would be dead if I'd been driving anything else. THAT's a safe car!

RoseLeigh
06-26-2008, 01:02 PM
lol i love your humour! i must have missed them when i was on the east coast. i had more issues with tourists and pedestrians than anyone else. ironically these same people you describe are more often than not driving around in little honda civics here. in fact, i had two flip me off and mouth obsceneties to me today because i was driving the speed limit in the right lane. appearantly i should be doing 100 in the fast lane with my stereo blasting, just like them. oh and lets not forget to drop a few K lowering the car and getting flashy rims....because were all bout practicality here :P. people are silly.

Heh. We have Civic drivers too. Lowered, primer grey, yet chromed out. Tends to be the urban types. The suburban dudes have the monster SUVs.

DeftonesGrl
06-26-2008, 02:03 PM
Why must all Civics have fart pipes? And wings bigger than the car? You KNOW most will never go fast enough to need a spoiler/wing.

Old cars really were built better. Even as new as at least 95. I have a 93 and a 95 import and those two are built of real steel, not this plastic/fiberglass crap. I have been rear ended in my car and not a scratch or dent. Even though the 93 is little (compact), I feel safer in it than many newer cars, even big ones. The build quality is just awesome.

Smart cars scare the hell out of me.

Yekhefah
06-26-2008, 02:12 PM
Old cars really were built better. Even as new as at least 95. I have a 93 and a 95 import and those two are built of real steel, not this plastic/fiberglass crap. I have been rear ended in my car and not a scratch or dent. Even though the 93 is little (compact), I feel safer in it than many newer cars, even big ones.

In all fairness, the fiberglass cars have their own safety advantages. A few years ago, my tiny compact 2003 model was T-boned in an intersection (some stupid chick ran a red light). The car spun around and crumpled in like a soda can at the impact site. An older car in the same accident would've been totalled due to frame damage, and it also would've bounced across the intersection, possibly into another car, causing even more damage and possibly severe injury. So even though the car did crumple in, and it would've been really bad if she'd hit my passenger, it wound up being safer this way.

Pros and cons to everything.

DeftonesGrl
06-26-2008, 02:17 PM
No doubt. Maybe I'm biased over my little "Car That Could" :P, I just see more pros to older.

aviendha
06-26-2008, 02:23 PM
I think everyone's car should fill up with foam in a crash, like in Demolition Man.

I don't have any mountains to deal with, but I drove my '99 Neon for 9 years in all kinds of snow (including a few 11" blizzards while delivering pizza) and only ever got stuck twice. You don't need 4WD to navigate snow on a reasonably flat surface. (And frankly the first step to success in driving in deep snow is not to do it if you don't have to.) Ironically, the only times I *did* get stuck were while delivering pizza, and attempting to back out of someone's uncleared driveway with 8" of snow in it, because they'd just drive straight into their garage.

Old cars were built with more steel in them (not just in the frame, but the body as well) which may have made them more durable, but also heavier and thus less fuel efficient (not that the car companies couldn't solve that problem in a minute if they were given the proper incentive).

As for people with more fuel efficient cars driving them more (and thus negating the benefit of the greater efficiency), that's an interesting point. I just got rid of my aforementioned Neon and bought a Nissan Versa SL, which has been getting about 32mpg. Do I see any real money savings? Hmm. Hard to say just yet (I've had the car about 3 weeks now). My Neon got about 25mpg. I think it may very well be that I do save in gas, but now that I'm not driving a car with no A/C in the middle of summer, I'm more inclined to make one or two extra trips to the store during the course of the week. That by itself would negate the savings.

I find that saving money on fuel really takes more than one kind of conscious choice. Not only should you drive a more efficient vehicle, but make a point of driving less, of combining trips, of using alternative transportation (bike, bus), and doing things that necessitate fewer trips, like buying in bulk. It's easy to change ONE thing about your life, but changing a whole bunch, that takes some effort and planning.

glambman
06-26-2008, 03:37 PM
Old cars really were built better. Even as new as at least 95. I have a 93 and a 95 import and those two are built of real steel, not this plastic/fiberglass crap. I have been rear ended in my car and not a scratch or dent. Even though the 93 is little (compact), I feel safer in it than many newer cars, even big ones. The build quality is just awesome.

Smart cars scare the hell out of me.

I'm not sure what you refer to as an old car, but I can tell you that older cars are more dangerous in more severe accidents. Modern cars have crumple zones that absorb much of the damage.


In all fairness, the fiberglass cars have their own safety advantages. A few years ago, my tiny compact 2003 model was T-boned in an intersection (some stupid chick ran a red light). The car spun around and crumpled in like a soda can at the impact site. An older car in the same accident would've been totalled due to frame damage, and it also would've bounced across the intersection, possibly into another car, causing even more damage and possibly severe injury. So even though the car did crumple in, and it would've been really bad if she'd hit my passenger, it wound up being safer this way.

Pros and cons to everything.

I agree with you, modern cars can take more damage than older cars. People assume that since older cars were built with steel, it equals more safety. Kinda like todays SUV thinkin' among some.

When I was 16ish, my group (car guys) would talk cars and people would bad-mouth the 'vette because it was a fiberglass body. But they forget it was full framed, while our muscle cars were subframed with steel bodies.

Steel/ aluminum panels can provide some additional rigidity and such, but people overestimate the benefit. On the last model Diablo (6.0), only the roof and door panels were aluminum.

What is really going to matter is how fast you were going/ they were going, and where you got hit at.