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msonyxorb
06-26-2008, 03:14 PM
I never said you were a "small" community. Thats why I only have sex with my BF who was a virgin and we've been together for 3 years...
I also don't see how saying that I don't have an STD is "vain" ahah. I just don't have an STD, I'm sorry if that hurts your feelings.
My college actually checks for herpes, hpv and whatever else...and I don't have it. I'm probably going to sound like a total egotistical vain asshole to let you know that until last month when I got a sore around my mouth (which really didn't even look like the pics of cold sores I see on the net) I never even had herpes 1 (or which ever one causes cold sores) I haven't been tested in the last month so I might not even have that...
Seriously get over it. Nobody here is calling you a dirty whore for having an std, there's no need to call the people with out them "prudes" or "vain"....get over yourself.
o please, no college clinics check for that. they check for clamydia, ghonnoreah and HIV if you are okay with an HIV test, thats it.
and when the hell did i even use the word prude? im a prude, its not a bad thing, better than being a "skank"
Joplin
06-26-2008, 05:27 PM
not true. anyone who isnt a prude has hsv 2.
im sick of people believing that porn/sexworkers are all super squicky clean people who never get stds and are therefore superior to all of us. so sick of it. they are humans just like the rest of us. they are just as, if not more likely to get any and all stds
And actually my college does. Part of the Well Woman's exam it costs 60 bucks. Congratulations, your wrong.
keira0304
06-26-2008, 05:31 PM
lol. this thread sure got OT quickly...
Paintbaby
06-26-2008, 06:23 PM
i love how you say std free. so what are the millions of people with stds supposed to do? just use a condom forever? even when they are married and want a child???
honestly
25 percent of people have genital herpes
80 percent have oral herpes
80 percent of women will have hpv by age 50
so only like 10 percent of people will ever be able to have unprotected sex?
i think it is very very very very vain to say you are in an std free relationship. considering there is no HPV test for men there is no way to ever say that unless you only date women. there is always a risk. its not about being std free, thats like discriminating cuz someone has asthma or something. its about trusting and loving the person you are with and deciding whether or not this is the person you want to spend your life with and deciding that some stupid skin disease is worth sharing with for this person. Obviously if you are still young and havent met the one yet, you should always use a condom...but its really really rude to say only people without stds can ever have that priviledge. if youre young you should use a condom regardless of your std status. if youre engaged or married though i think its rude to say "you need to be std free," not everyone in todays world can live up to such a high standard.
Why don't you calm the fuck down? Not everything in this thread is about YOU. And by the way, I just turned 40, have had PLENTY of sexual experience and know my own body damned well and I don't think I need you to lecture me on how it is in MY sex life. And I CAN say, with absolute certainty, that my realtionship is STD-free--not that this is ANY of your damn business. And, I do not recall stating anywhere where I ordained that ONLY the STD-free "have that privlege". I believe I was sharing a personal anecdote. What anyone wants to do within their own relationship is their own business, and trust me when I say I do not give the tiniest goddamn.
msonyxorb
06-26-2008, 07:19 PM
And actually my college does. Part of the Well Woman's exam it costs 60 bucks. Congratulations, your wrong.
60 bucks, rightttt. considering a lab test for herpes alone can go from 80-300 bucks it wouldnt be cost effective for the school to provide a full panel std test for only 60 bucks. i highly doubt an std like herpes is tested on that exam.
msonyxorb
06-26-2008, 07:20 PM
Why don't you calm the fuck down? Not everything in this thread is about YOU. And by the way, I just turned 40, have had PLENTY of sexual experience and know my own body damned well and I don't think I need you to lecture me on how it is in MY sex life. And I CAN say, with absolute certainty, that my realtionship is STD-free--not that this is ANY of your damn business. And, I do not recall stating anywhere where I ordained that ONLY the STD-free "have that privlege". I believe I was sharing a personal anecdote. What anyone wants to do within their own relationship is their own business, and trust me when I say I do not give the tiniest goddamn.
are you a lesbian?
considering there is no hpv test for men, no straight couple can say their relationship is std free.
nope you were clearly stating that unprotected sex is only for the committed and "clean"
Joplin
06-26-2008, 07:24 PM
60 bucks, rightttt. considering a lab test for herpes alone can go from 80-300 bucks it wouldnt be cost effective for the school to provide a full panel std test for only 60 bucks. i highly doubt an std like herpes is tested on that exam.
I didn't say it was full panel, I said for HPV testing it was 60 bucks. I would send you the link but I wouldn't want some raging pro-std chick ranting at my door.
msonyxorb
06-26-2008, 07:51 PM
I didn't say it was full panel, I said for HPV testing it was 60 bucks. I would send you the link but I wouldn't want some raging pro-std chick ranting at my door.
um yes you did
"My college actually checks for herpes, hpv and whatever else...and I don't have it. I'm probably going to sound like a total egotistical vain asshole to let you know that until last month when I got a sore around my mouth (which really didn't even look like the pics of cold sores I see on the net) I never even had herpes 1 (or which ever one causes cold sores) I haven't been tested in the last month so I might not even have that..."
and you responded with the 60 dollar thing to me posting about herpes, not hpv. so wtf.
CKXXX
06-26-2008, 08:00 PM
60 bucks, rightttt. considering a lab test for herpes alone can go from 80-300 bucks it wouldnt be cost effective for the school to provide a full panel std test for only 60 bucks. i highly doubt an std like herpes is tested on that exam.
Are you insane? I get full panel STD tested for work and I pay less then $200 for EVERYTHING. And its AIM,which is more expensive then most places...certainly more expensive then a college Dr would be.
Planned Parenthood offers full STD panels for less then $100.
You really shouldnt talk about things you know nothing about. And I havent seen you knowledgeable about anything yet.
Joplin
06-26-2008, 08:06 PM
Me: My college actually checks for herpes, hpv
You: o please, no college clinics check for that.
Me: And actually my college does. Part of the Well Woman's exam it costs 60 bucks.
You: talking about full panel crap
Me: I didn't say it was full panel, I said for HPV testing it was 60 bucks.
**Excuse me for not specifying that checking for herpes is another 60 bucks, at most**
I put that quote in there to show that you are calling people without STD's "prudes" because you tried to say you didn't. Pull your head out of your ass. I shouldn't have to debrief a conversation for you to understand it. Your ridiculous.
Paintbaby
06-26-2008, 08:11 PM
are you a lesbian?
considering there is no hpv test for men, no straight couple can say their relationship is std free.
nope you were clearly stating that unprotected sex is only for the committed and "clean"
The stupid...it burns.....
Oh, but my realtionship IS STD-free. Jealous?
How can that be? Oh, I dunno--maybe because neither of us has an STD. And if I had HPV given to me by my partner, I'd have found out about it during my last HPV screening. Logic--it's your friend!
Your ignorance is only eclipsed by your frothing-at-the -mouth, strident paranoia. Please refrain from directing any more of your vitriol at me. It has become tedious. And you are just making yourself look even more foolish.
Peanut_Butter
06-26-2008, 08:28 PM
I just wanted to say to msonyxorb please try to find some counseling or therapy...it's pretty obvious that you are not coping with your diagnosis very well and maybe talking to someone would help you learn how to deal and cope a little better. People with STD's are no less human or inferior than those without. good luck. :hug:
msonyxorb
06-27-2008, 03:14 AM
Are you insane? I get full panel STD tested for work and I pay less then $200 for EVERYTHING. And its AIM,which is more expensive then most places...certainly more expensive then a college Dr would be.
Planned Parenthood offers full STD panels for less then $100.
You really shouldnt talk about things you know nothing about. And I havent seen you knowledgeable about anything yet.
Isnt AIM nonprofit??? its definately NOT more expensive than other places. Maybe if you only count what you pay if you have insurance, its more expensive, but overall as far as I know AIM has a reputation of being pretty affordable.
Planned parenthood does not offer a full std panel, wtf. unless by full panel you mean 3 stds. Hell planned parent hood was one of the places that refused to test me for herpes because i had no symptoms.
msonyxorb
06-27-2008, 03:16 AM
The stupid...it burns.....
Oh, but my realtionship IS STD-free. Jealous?
How can that be? Oh, I dunno--maybe because neither of us has an STD. And if I had HPV given to me by my partner, I'd have found out about it during my last HPV screening. Logic--it's your friend!
Your ignorance is only eclipsed by your frothing-at-the -mouth, strident paranoia. Please refrain from directing any more of your vitriol at me. It has become tedious. And you are just making yourself look even more foolish.
Unless you have high risk HPV you arent going to get an abnormal pap. most types of HPV are harmless, and it is very possible for a guy to have HPV and not transmit it to his female partner.
tampadancer
06-27-2008, 03:33 AM
^^ so, uh, where'd you go to med school??
CKXXX
06-27-2008, 09:26 AM
Isnt AIM nonprofit??? its definately NOT more expensive than other places. Maybe if you only count what you pay if you have insurance, its more expensive, but overall as far as I know AIM has a reputation of being pretty affordable.
Planned parenthood does not offer a full std panel, wtf. unless by full panel you mean 3 stds. Hell planned parent hood was one of the places that refused to test me for herpes because i had no symptoms.
HAHAHAHA..AIM ..nonprofit...thats so funny I cant stop laughing!!!! AIM is ALL profit honey. And they dont take insurance. Ii wish they did.. I HAVE insurance that would pay for it and I cant use it there.They have a reputation for being VERY expensive. And yes PP DOES offer a full panel std test. Theres a BIG sign in the waiting room at the one I used to go to that lists ALL std's and says the price for the panel is $60. And consider that PP works on a sliding scale,so if you dont have the money...they will work with you.
Please stop talking. You know nothing about anything.
britt244
06-27-2008, 09:36 AM
oh my good freaking lord. i was wondering why this thread was 3 pages.. im a little doped up on pain pills but wow.
KamrynAnne
06-27-2008, 11:32 AM
^^ so, uh, where'd you go to med school??
i heart you!!! she needs to cool it with being a know it all.
msonyxorb
06-27-2008, 11:42 AM
HAHAHAHA..AIM ..nonprofit...thats so funny I cant stop laughing!!!! AIM is ALL profit honey. And they dont take insurance. Ii wish they did.. I HAVE insurance that would pay for it and I cant use it there.They have a reputation for being VERY expensive. And yes PP DOES offer a full panel std test. Theres a BIG sign in the waiting room at the one I used to go to that lists ALL std's and says the price for the panel is $60. And consider that PP works on a sliding scale,so if you dont have the money...they will work with you.
Please stop talking. You know nothing about anything.
"
AIM Healthcare Foundation
OUR MISSION
A non-profit corporation created to care for the physical and emotional needs of sex workers and the people who work in the Adult Entertainment Industry. Through our HIV and STD testing and treatment, our counseling, and support-group programs, we are happy to be serving the sex worker community. Our goal is to provide health care for the body, mind, emotion, and spirit."
And when did i say they take insurance. I said it might be MORE EXPENSIVE if you compare it to the price you pay out of pocket for an std test in a place where you get tested and use your insurance. I did not say AIM TAKES insurance. wtf.
So obviously the place i went to a few years ago to try to get a herpes test wasnt PP right, they DIDNT deny me a herpes test right. im pretty sure i found that location through the PP website and the sign outside the door said PLANNED PARENTHOOD.
CKXXX
06-27-2008, 11:42 AM
Seriously...just because a company registers as a nonprofit doesnt mean they act like it!! AIM milks every penny they can out of you...not taking insurance,higher fees then anywhere else PLUS extra fees to draw the blood....and you have no choice but to use them. They are a monopoly.
So congrats...you have google. Doesnt mean you actually know how things work. I could get the same tests done withOUT using my insurance even at PP for half the price or less. But I cant.
And I really dont believe PP denied you a test you were willing to pay for. Lots of things NEVER show symptoms...thats a ridiculous reason to deny. If it really happened.............I'd report them and go to a different one.
Or just live with an untreated STD...your choice.
CKXXX
06-27-2008, 11:56 AM
Mods..this thread has gotten WAY off track...can we close it please??
NekkoStarz
06-27-2008, 09:36 PM
I don't know anything really, but couldn't they lose their medical licenses or what have you IF they DENIED you a test you wanted???
msonyxorb
06-27-2008, 10:53 PM
Seriously...just because a company registers as a nonprofit doesnt mean they act like it!! AIM milks every penny they can out of you...not taking insurance,higher fees then anywhere else PLUS extra fees to draw the blood....and you have no choice but to use them. They are a monopoly.
So congrats...you have google. Doesnt mean you actually know how things work. I could get the same tests done withOUT using my insurance even at PP for half the price or less. But I cant.
And I really dont believe PP denied you a test you were willing to pay for. Lots of things NEVER show symptoms...thats a ridiculous reason to deny. If it really happened.............I'd report them and go to a different one.
Or just live with an untreated STD...your choice.
higher fees than anywhere else?? um compared to what, free clinics? planned parent hood (i have been denied HPV and HSV testing at both PP and free clinics- some clinics dont even offer an HSV blood test, they only offer the swab test- around los angeles whereas AIM will test you no questions asked). seriously, they are a lot cheaper than getting these tests from a regular doctor would cost if you didnt have insurance. Where are all these cheap testing sites you are talking about? My ex had to pay 200 bucks for his freaking herpes blood test, we would have been happy to pay only 80 bucks for it which is what AIM charges.
kitty260
06-27-2008, 11:38 PM
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Joplin
06-28-2008, 12:08 AM
Holy crap. Somebody's bitter about being diseased. Why are you guys arguing with her? Just be content in the fact that everyone else is right and she's an idiot.
On another note:
So, uh.....anyways, how's it goin' Kamryn? :P
Agreed^
CK lets just let it go. She's obviously to wrapped up in her own issues to understand logic. The places she's talking about probably did deny her testing because they've tested her positive so many times before.
msonyxorb
06-28-2008, 01:11 AM
Agreed^
CK lets just let it go. She's obviously to wrapped up in her own issues to understand logic. The places she's talking about probably did deny her testing because they've tested her positive so many times before.
lmao i love how you guys use the word "diseased" as an insult. no wonder girls are pming me thanking me for telling you guys off. i cant wait till you get your first "positive" diagnosis.
Paintbaby
06-28-2008, 06:11 PM
Lol.
Wev.
Good luck to you.
kitty260
06-28-2008, 06:39 PM
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Miss_Luscious
06-28-2008, 08:13 PM
Seriously? Although this has gotten out of hand and way off topic, having herpes is NOT NOT NOT NOT a cause for embarassment. A couple of you (especially miss thang above me) need to stop that shit now.
On topic, getting pregnant on your period is pretty hard but it has happened before. But if you know your cycles pretty well then all you have to do is figure out your ovulation times and what not. Here's a link (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/Faqs/)about charting and such that may help.
ViolaStrings
06-28-2008, 09:02 PM
Oh my god, I thought I was a bitch on SW sometimes.
msonyxorb
06-29-2008, 01:22 AM
This thread makes me giggle.
By the way, girls are PMing you instead of speaking up in here because they don't want to out themselves as having STDs. See that? It's called "embarassment". Something you ought to feel before wearing your diseases publicly like a badge of honor. Just sayin'.
Anyways, so is Kamryn coming back with an update or are we done here?
first of all, i never said i had anything
second of all...have you ever been sick...ever? are you ashamed of that?
and ive seen a few girls here talk about how they have hpv and stuff. funny when someone posts something about they have an std its okay until that person points out how common it is, then everyone starts flaming. wtf. i guess it hurts more to think that you might have it too.
VegasPrincess
06-29-2008, 12:36 PM
This thread makes me giggle.
By the way, girls are PMing you instead of speaking up in here because they don't want to out themselves as having STDs. See that? It's called "embarassment". Something you ought to feel before wearing your diseases publicly like a badge of honor. Just sayin'.
Anyways, so is Kamryn coming back with an update or are we done here?
What a fucked up thing to day! I think this thread is way out of control and I don't know why I'm participating, but people who have STDS don't have anything to be embarassed about, I'm fucking sorry! Would you be embarassed if you had Mono, the flu or some other kind of contagious illness? Fucking A!
ViolaStrings
06-29-2008, 03:50 PM
Seriously. I can be a major stripperweb bitch, but telling people they should be embarassed because they have an STD is pure cuntdom. It's not like they MEANT to get one, and the incurable ones are pretty horrible (herpes, HIV) and affect you the rest of your life.
VegasPrincess
06-29-2008, 03:51 PM
^^
Agreed.
ViolaStrings
06-29-2008, 03:55 PM
I usually enjoy, encourage and participate in drama... but damn! That's like up there with sentiments like "well, if you didn't want to get raped you shouldn't have dressed like that".
Oh snap, I'm a goddess now. 2000th post! Kind of a lame title. Can't I just be a "Cunt Master"?
seraya
06-29-2008, 05:26 PM
In the words of Katrine; Ya'll bitches need need to calm down. Cerously.
Anyways....
There have been a lot of misconceptions posted in this thread but basically Paintbaby and penny are correct. The book; Taking Charge of Your Fertility is an awesome awesome book! It is a wealth of information and I highly recommend it.
Kam how did it go?
kitana
06-30-2008, 08:00 AM
If you REQUEST an std test and your Dr refuses...time to get a new Dr. Seriously. Thats fucked up.
EXACTLY!
I get tested every year, even though I have been married to my hubby (who has been my ONLY sex partner) for 8+yrs and together almost 10yrs.
I was stupid when I was younger before I met him, and I wanna make sure we are both safe.
They do EVERY test, and the only "STD" I have ever had is a child, lol.;);D
kitana
06-30-2008, 08:02 AM
60 bucks, rightttt. considering a lab test for herpes alone can go from 80-300 bucks it wouldnt be cost effective for the school to provide a full panel std test for only 60 bucks. i highly doubt an std like herpes is tested on that exam.
Do you know how silly and bitter you sound?
If it's HER school and SHE has actually HAD the exam, I think SHE would know better than YOU.
kitana
06-30-2008, 08:06 AM
lmao i love how you guys use the word "diseased" as an insult. no wonder girls are pming me thanking me for telling you guys off. i cant wait till you get your first "positive" diagnosis.
Bitter bitter bitter, and jaded.
Seriously therapy will help with your issues.
Oh and as I said before, my hubby and I BOTH are STD free.;D
msonyxorb
06-30-2008, 07:34 PM
Do you know how silly and bitter you sound?
If it's HER school and SHE has actually HAD the exam, I think SHE would know better than YOU.
right, just because you ASK your doctor to test you for everything, doesnt mean he/she actually will. i know several people who get tested every year and then later find out there were stds they were never tested for because in that drs office "everything" only consists of chlamydia, ghonnoreah, and HIV
hell i asked to be tested for everything in a clinic one time and thats all they tested me fore. and when i asked about hsv and hpv they said they dont do that unless you have symptoms and they assured me i was "clean" as if those were the only 3 stds that ever existed...
Aubreyyy
06-30-2008, 08:36 PM
Wow, some of US?? You are very very vain. Its pretty difficult to get tested for any stds that arent serious, such as HPV or Herpes. Chances, are you probably have one or the other and are not aware of it. I know i have been denied being tested for herpes several times because I dont have symptoms.
Std community? You mean 80 percent of the human population? I didnt know they were a small "community."
You are fucking insane.:O
Dottie Rebel
07-01-2008, 08:16 AM
right, just because you ASK your doctor to test you for everything, doesnt mean he/she actually will. i know several people who get tested every year and then later find out there were stds they were never tested for because in that drs office "everything" only consists of chlamydia, ghonnoreah, and HIV
hell i asked to be tested for everything in a clinic one time and thats all they tested me fore. and when i asked about hsv and hpv they said they dont do that unless you have symptoms and they assured me i was "clean" as if those were the only 3 stds that ever existed...
Well, some of us are more responsible about our health than to request medical tests like we're ordering a sandwich.
Just run it through the garden, doc! :D
I've been tested for herpes every single time I've been tested for STI's. In fact, every time I go to Planned Parenthood I get tested for HPV, trich, syphilus, herpes, hep, and I believe PID--in addition to the magical chlamydia, gonorrhea and HIV. I know this because I was told what I was being tested for and my results of each test. I do vajajay cultures and a blood draw. Some of these I may have specifically requested, I don't remember. But I've never been told, "No, you can't have that test because you don't have a gib gaping sore." If you were truly told that, that sucks. I hope you moved onto a new doctor instead of just saying "Ho hum. I guess I can't get tested then."
Seriously, are there people who go to the doctor and say, "Yeah, um, just give me one of everything" and then never question exactly which procedures are being performed and which tests conducted? That is ignorant and irresponsible.
By the way, an STI is nothing to be embarrassed about. That statement was fucked up. Like, a lady is supposed to show proper shame and not talk about it? That kind of judgemental, puritanical crap is the reason we have so many sexual problems--including infectons--in the first place. I mean, msminoxidyl or whatever is clearly as crazy as untreated syphilis but going *there* just makes you look bad.
kitana
07-01-2008, 11:21 AM
right, just because you ASK your doctor to test you for everything, doesnt mean he/she actually will. i know several people who get tested every year and then later find out there were stds they were never tested for because in that drs office "everything" only consists of chlamydia, ghonnoreah, and HIV
hell i asked to be tested for everything in a clinic one time and thats all they tested me fore. and when i asked about hsv and hpv they said they dont do that unless you have symptoms and they assured me i was "clean" as if those were the only 3 stds that ever existed...
Sorry you don't have the common sense to make sure you have a Dr. that cares and does the tests you want when you ask for them, it's YOUR health, not his.
I KNOW my Dr. tests for everything, since I pay the itemized bill for it, and I review the test results myself.
Several people does not mean ALL people, nor does it mean all Dr.'s; sorry hun, you will not tell me what my Dr. does and doesn't do with my health; you don't know, you aren't there. Bitch and complain and falter all you want, but you are wrong.
I get tested for HIV/AIDS, Hep, HPV, herpes, chlamydia, gonorrhea, syphilis, LVG, NGU, and Trich.
Maybe you need to be a little more assertive with your Dr. and if he still refuses, find a new one.
nicole84
07-01-2008, 02:06 PM
ok, tried to stay quiet, but as to the issue of how common things like hpv and herpes are, etc. i am posting this. the question and answer format thing was written by a friend of mine who specializes in this stuff for NIH. He has spent his life working on these things. it is written for people involved in swinging, but the info applies to anyone having sex. the other is from this site: www.herpesonline.org/articles/herpes_virus.html
Yes its a crazy long post, I know. please dont flame me for this. i'm simply trying to put accurate info out there.
here we go:
Herpes Virus
On this page we will delve into the topic of two types of herpes: herpes simplex 1 and herpes simplex 2 and various aspects of living with and learning about both.
For anyone living with genital herpes – the most common attempt at disclosure will be to compare the infection to that of oral herpes or “cold sores.” There always seems to be an underlying need to somehow “lesson” the severe perceptions that one may have by drawing attention to the herpes virus that is socially acceptable. Contrary to scientific fact, many believe there will always be a “good” herpes virus (oral herpes) and a “bad” herpes virus (genital herpes).
Based on the various up to date information resources and the assistance of Dr. H of Herpes.org, we will explore the two types of herpes based on varying criteria.
According to The American Social Health Association, under a microscope herpes simplex 1 and herpes simplex 2 are virtually identical, sharing approximately 50% of their DNA. Both herpes type 1 and herpes type 2 infect the mucosal surfaces of the body – most often the mouth or the genitals and then establish latency in the nervous system. For both herpes simplex 1 and 2, it is estimated that two thirds of those infected have no noticeable symptoms or no symptoms at all. Studies have shown that both herpes 1 and herpes 2 can be spread when there are no symptoms present.
The primary difference between herpes 1 and herpes 2 is their “site of preference” when establishing latency in the body. Herpes simplex 1 usually establishes latency in the trigeminal ganglion, a collection of nerve cells found near the ears. Recurring herpes outbreaks will generally occur around the mouth or facial region. Herpes simplex 2 usually establishes latency in the sacral ganglion, a collection of nerves found at the lower base of the spine. HSV-2 recurring outbreaks will generally occur in the genital region.
Though this is the most commonly noted difference, it is not absolute. Herpes simplex 1 and herpes simplex 2 can reside in either or both parts of the body and infect orally and/or genitally. Unfortunately, many are unaware of this and this lack of knowledge contributes to the ongoing spread and to the growing number of herpes type 1 genital cases being responsible for genital herpes.
With many years of believing that herpes type 1 is only related to oral herpes, many people are not aware that herpes type 1 can and is being contracted both orally and genitally and can cause genital herpes. So many people are under the presumption that there is that “Good versus Bad” herpes virus and with these beliefs social stigmas are thriving. While the “Good Virus” is believed to be “just a cold sore” – society has that euphemism to hide behind and don’t have to acknowledge that cold sores are indeed Herpes.
Common myths give indication that herpes simplex 1 causes a mild infection that is at times bothersome, but never dangerous. The reality is that herpes type 1 is usually very mild when affecting the lips, face or genitals. Herpes type 1 has been known to occur spontaneously in the eye “ocular herpes”. Ocular herpes can be very serious and could potentially lead to blindness. In some very rare cases, herpes has spread to the brain causing herpes encephalitis, an extremely dangerous infection that can result in death. These are however, Very rare! Herpes can be spread to the finger “herpetic whitlow”. Herpes is also quite common among wrestler’s “herpes gladiatorium” (a herpes infection of the chest or face).
Though society believes herpes type 1 to be the “Good Virus”, researchers are finding herpes type 1 to be more “risky” than previously perceived. Some medical professionals are finding herpes type 1 to be a more “significant” infection than herpes type 2 and the prevalence of herpes type 1 is severely underestimated.
Herpes type 2 is believed to be a painful and dangerous infection that affects people with an “overly active sex life”. This couldn’t be more false. Genital Herpes can infect anyone who has sex, even if only once. An estimated 25% of adults from varying backgrounds, income levels and ethnic groups have Herpes type 2 causing genital herpes. Herpes type 2 1s often so mild that an estimated two thirds of those infected don’t even realize they have it. Herpes type 2 rarely causes complications and more rarely spreads to other parts of the body.
Herpes type 2 is the most common cause of neonatal herpes, a rare but often dangerous and potentially fatal condition that affects newborns. Herpes type 1 is the primary cause of one third of neonatal infections. You can find comfort in knowing that both are completely avoidable with proper education, instruction and testing.
Because herpes type 1 and herpes type 2 have a “site of preference” both can behave very differently depending on the infected person. Herpes simplex 1 and herpes simplex 2 are quite common and neither poses a serious health threat. Due to their common existence in society, many health care providers dismiss them easily; even considering the long-term emotional effects a positive diagnosis of the herpes virus will have on their patient.
Herpes Simplex Virus (HSV) – though not life threatening, it is stealing the quality of life of many of those who are infected. At the same time, many of us who carry the herpes virus, regardless of location, realize its common place in society and know it’s nothing more than a “cold sore.”
Herpes Outbreaks? And how often?
The physical problem that herpes poses is primarily based on the individual and three varying factors. Those being; the strength of their immune system, how long they have had the herpes virus, and is the herpes virus affecting the “normal site of preference?”
Obviously a challenged immune system will have a strengthening affect on many “viruses” and is the main reason people are bothered by more frequent outbreaks and the primary reason herpes types 1 and herpes type 2 are a greater threat to infants who have limited immune response. This also causes the herpes viruses to greatly affect those with compromised immune systems due to other illnesses such as cancer, HIV, severe burns, etc.
How long a person has the herpes virus also plays a large role in frequency of outbreaks. It is not clear why a decrease of herpes outbreaks occurs over time, but is believed to be due to the build up of antibodies in the infected persons system.
It is estimated that 100 million American’s who are infected with herpes simplex 1 contracted the virus as a young child. Due to the substantial time of living with the herpes virus, by the time they reach adulthood only about 5% will find it to be a medical problem and seek treatment.
The estimated 40 million American’s infected with herpes simplex 2 almost always acquired the virus as a teen or as a sexually active adult by having unprotected sexual contact with someone who has genital herpes. Those infected with genital herpes will, on average, experience 4-6 outbreaks that first year, with a decrease in outbreaks occurring over time.
Due to Herpes type 1 and herpes type 2 having their sites of preference and though HSV can account for both genital herpes and oral herpes cases, regardless of type, both are known to be milder when they are “outside their site of preference.” You could easily say the type located in its “site of preference” has the home court advantage.
An example of this is most people infected with herpes simplex 1 genitally have reported fewer genital herpes outbreaks if any in a single year. It is estimated that herpes simplex 1 now accounts for as many as 30% of all genital herpes cases in the U.S. and 2-5% of the recurring outbreaks are associated with the herpes type 1 virus.
Herpes type 2 oral infections are Very rare and in those few known cases, recurring outbreaks are extremely rare.
Now for HPV and general info:
When joining the Lifestyle, nearly everyone has questions about their risk of getting sexually transmitted infections (STI), especially HIV (human immunodeficiency virus) that can lead to AIDS (acquired immunodeficiency syndrome). Will I get a STI? Will I get HIV? How do I protect myself? Should I get tested? Should my regular partner get tested?
The short answer is yes, you probably will get one, sort of. Don’t panic (yet). Keep reading.
The truth is that many people are exposed to herpes simplex virus 2 (HSV-2) and most are exposed to human papillomavirus (HPV). Almost a quarter of people have circulating antibodies to HSV-2 (due to exposure to HSV-2) by the time they are 50, and those with more sexual partners are more likely to have antibodies. Half of women test HPV positive within 4 years after having sex for the first time, which because of the way the studies are done vastly underestimates the number of women who were infected. Ditto for men. And this is the general population, your average vanilla, not you wild and crazy swingers. Given how common these STIs are, chances are that you were infected even before you became a swinger.
Take HPV, the new, old (fashionable?) STI, for example. Long before anyone knew about HPV, there was the abnormal Pap smear. Many of you (women) have had one. If so, you had HPV. HPV is not new: it has been around for millions and millions of years. We just did not know about HPV until somebody learned how to test for it. Ignorance is bliss. Sexually active people such as yourself probably get it many times and clear it, without even knowing it because it typically has no symptoms and is benign. Unfortunately for women, sometimes HPV can cause precancerous lesions and even cancer. Unfairly, men very rarely get penile cancer. Men get off easy again.
Speaking of tests, then shouldn’t everyone get tested for HPV? Women should get routinely screened for cervical cancer, which includes Pap smears or other cytology and may include a HPV test. But does it make sense to be tested for HPV after every play experience? Probably not. The reasons why are simple. First, you have to test frequently to be sure of your HPV status. For $100 a test after each play experience that will not be covered by insurance, you would be out of pocket quite an expense. Second, doctors test for infections that are most likely to cause cervical abnormalities, not all HPV. Docs don’t test for HPV in the vagina, which can harbor more infection that the cervix (doctors don’t test for vaginal HPV because the vagina, like the penis, is very unlikely to develop cancer) than the cervix. Third, there is not an approved method for testing men. So you cannot be sure your partner de jour is HPV negative. Finally, HPV infections come and go. Just because you tested HPV negative today does not mean that you or you through your main partner did not pick up an infection tomorrow.
What can you do to protect you, your partner(s), and your play partner(s)? The current rage is HPV vaccines. However, HPV vaccines are good at protecting women not already exposed---they do not treat current infections. And they do not protect against all cancerous types. Condoms, when used correctly, probably offer some protection. More importantly, condoms offer protection against the most serious infection, HIV.
Bottom line: Get over it or get out. By choosing the Lifestyle, you are choosing a riskier, edgier way of being. Hell, is that part of the point? Well, guess what, there is risk in being a risk-taker. By being in the Lifestyle, you have put yourself at risk even if you do all the right things. Condoms break. Tests fail. And very few of us use protection during oral sex. There is nothing that can provide you with absolute reassurance. There is no clean bill of health. If you choose the Lifestyle, act responsibly, yes, but also accept responsibility by accepting the good with the bad. If the risk is greater than the rewards, find a new hobby.
VegasPrincess
07-01-2008, 03:30 PM
^^
What's the Lifestyle, just for curiosities sake?
nicole84
07-01-2008, 03:33 PM
oh, its just another term for swinging.
sorry, lol.
as i said, the thing is geared towards the questions people have going into that, but the info applies to anyone having sex.
CKXXX
07-01-2008, 03:33 PM
^^
What's the Lifestyle, just for curiosities sake?
Swinging. A lot of swingers refer to it as being in the lifestyle
msonyxorb
07-02-2008, 01:02 AM
Well, some of us are more responsible about our health than to request medical tests like we're ordering a sandwich.
Just run it through the garden, doc! :D
I've been tested for herpes every single time I've been tested for STI's. In fact, every time I go to Planned Parenthood I get tested for HPV, trich, syphilus, herpes, hep, and I believe PID--in addition to the magical chlamydia, gonorrhea and HIV. I know this because I was told what I was being tested for and my results of each test. I do vajajay cultures and a blood draw. Some of these I may have specifically requested, I don't remember. But I've never been told, "No, you can't have that test because you don't have a gib gaping sore." If you were truly told that, that sucks. I hope you moved onto a new doctor instead of just saying "Ho hum. I guess I can't get tested then."
Seriously, are there people who go to the doctor and say, "Yeah, um, just give me one of everything" and then never question exactly which procedures are being performed and which tests conducted? That is ignorant and irresponsible.
By the way, an STI is nothing to be embarrassed about. That statement was fucked up. Like, a lady is supposed to show proper shame and not talk about it? That kind of judgemental, puritanical crap is the reason we have so many sexual problems--including infectons--in the first place. I mean, msminoxidyl or whatever is clearly as crazy as untreated syphilis but going *there* just makes you look bad.
oh please, before 2 years ago, most people did not know that a thing called HPV exists. you couldnt possibly request to be tested for everything because chances are you will forget or are just not aware that some stds exist.
ViolaStrings
07-02-2008, 01:08 AM
OMG. Everyone needs to get that sand out of their vaginas.
msonyxorb
07-02-2008, 01:12 AM
Herpes type 2 is the most common cause of neonatal herpes, a rare but often dangerous and potentially fatal condition that affects newborns. Herpes type 1 is the primary cause of one third of neonatal infections. You can find comfort in knowing that both are completely avoidable with proper education, instruction and testing.
ive always wondered about thi,...what about the babies that dont die after this? do they end up deformed or can they live normal healthy lives and not find out they are infected till they are sexually active and get tested for it. does this mean then that it is possible to be born with HSV? if so then some people really need to get off their high horses and stop calling people with HSV2 dirty, especially if you dont even need to touch anyone to get it.
and i think this really needs to be repeated for all the cocky people who insist they are the lucky 2 percent who are "clean"
Half of women test HPV positive within 4 years after having sex for the first time, which because of the way the studies are done vastly underestimates the number of women who were infected. Ditto for men. And this is the general population, your average vanilla, not you wild and crazy swingers. Given how common these STIs are, chances are that you were infected even before you became a swinger.
Speaking of tests, then shouldn’t everyone get tested for HPV? Women should get routinely screened for cervical cancer, which includes Pap smears or other cytology and may include a HPV test. But does it make sense to be tested for HPV after every play experience? Probably not. The reasons why are simple. First, you have to test frequently to be sure of your HPV status. For $100 a test after each play experience that will not be covered by insurance, you would be out of pocket quite an expense. Second, doctors test for infections that are most likely to cause cervical abnormalities, not all HPV. Docs don’t test for HPV in the vagina, which can harbor more infection that the cervix (doctors don’t test for vaginal HPV because the vagina, like the penis, is very unlikely to develop cancer) than the cervix. Third, there is not an approved method for testing men. So you cannot be sure your partner de jour is HPV negative. Finally, HPV infections come and go. Just because you tested HPV negative today does not mean that you or you through your main partner did not pick up an infection tomorrow.