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dangerousdiva
07-14-2008, 07:53 AM
Personally, I don't care what they do as long as they aren't dancing and cheapening my value.

We all used to make more money when dancing was not socially acceptable and was considered taboo. I'm against broadcasting it and trying to make it seem like a legitimate career choice. I don't care if people judge me for it (although my family does not know), I'll laugh all the the way to the bank.

When women couldn't make ends meet years ago they became waitresses, now they become dancers because it's more glamorous ::)

About what I consider good money, I don't feel comfortable posting because my parameters are different than most. My club never closes so I stay until I make my quota. Sometimes I make more and that's great, but rarely do I make less.

Andygirl
07-14-2008, 09:50 AM
Averages are how I think about good nights vs. bad nights. I keep track of all my earnings via spreadsheet. So far, this year, my nightly average is around $370. But again, that's an average. I have nights much higher than that, and I've had some much lower.

In '07 my nightly average was around $450. So either the economy is really changing for the worse, or I'm lazier than I used to be. Maybe a bit of both. I definitely haven't worked as many nights this year as I did last.

However, in '06 my nightly average was about $407. You can see how these things fluctuate.

I'm pretty sure I'm one of the top earners at my club. They keep track of dances and I can easily look at that and see where I am in relation to the other girls. $200 would be the very lowest acceptable amount that I would be *ok* with. But, as my average indicates, I'm more likely to go over $300 and maybe into the $400-$700 range. It all depends on the night. Ftr, this is in Indianapolis.

Again, you might make a grand once in a while, but if your average is low then it doesn't really matter.

leelee lah
07-14-2008, 10:19 AM
I know it's not going to be popular, but I'm going to say it. Dancers who find $200 a night acceptable are partially responsible for the decline of the business.

I completely agree!

if you think in terms of long run, the gap in work history is not worth the 800 a week your making just to "get by".
you can( for the most part) get an entry level job in your field making 600 a week and gaining experience for the rest of your life so that in 10 years you can be making 1500 a week. Rather then back tracking and making 600 in 5 years and working your way up from there.
basically what is that extra 200 a week going to do for you in the long run?
the gap in work history really is only worth making 1500+ a week. other wise get a regular job

Stripping should be left to an elite few
the only reason its not is greedy managment thatll hire anything off the street
and woman who will sell there self worth for peanuts at a time.
just my two cents.

i.breathe.in
07-14-2008, 10:36 AM
I completely agree!

if you think in terms of long run, the gap in work history is not worth the 800 a week your making just to "get by".
you can( for the most part) get an entry level job in your field making 600 a week and gaining experience for the rest of your life so that in 10 years you can be making 1500 a week. Rather then back tracking and making 600 in 5 years and working your way up from there.
basically what is that extra 200 a week going to do for you in the long run?
the gap in work history really is only worth making 1500+ a week. other wise get a regular job

Stripping should be left to an elite few
the only reason its not is greedy managment thatll hire anything off the street
and woman who will sell there self worth for peanuts at a time.
just my two cents.

ETA: i dont have to sell my self worth becuase i dont do anything that compromises my morals. would i dance for this amount if guys were allowed a grabbing licking free for all? hell no, i wouldnt do that for any amount of money. its about personal boundries.

you just sound bitter.

and just what exactly makes you so elite? ive modeled for years, dont do extras, work in a low contact club and make 600-1000 3 days a week 5 hour shifts. i dotn think that is bad especially considering half the girls i work with make less then 150 a night after tipping out.

Candice
07-14-2008, 10:39 AM
Putting aside the debate on what is acceptable earnings....

I like this thread since its motivating me to aim higher financially.

Perry
07-14-2008, 11:02 AM
$300-$400 is good for me. But that's because after I make about $300 I mentally cash out. I pay the house, tip everyone and just coast through the rest of the night. Talking to the other girls, hanging out at the bar, sitting in the locker room, whatever.

I know I could keep making money, but I tend to loose my edge and stop hustling after I make that goal.

anomar
07-14-2008, 11:13 AM
I completely agree!

if you think in terms of long run, the gap in work history is not worth the 800 a week your making just to "get by".
you can( for the most part) get an entry level job in your field making 600 a week and gaining experience for the rest of your life so that in 10 years you can be making 1500 a week. Rather then back tracking and making 600 in 5 years and working your way up from there.
basically what is that extra 200 a week going to do for you in the long run?
the gap in work history really is only worth making 1500+ a week. other wise get a regular job

Stripping should be left to an elite few
the only reason its not is greedy managment thatll hire anything off the street
and woman who will sell there self worth for peanuts at a time.
just my two cents.

I think that lee lah makes good points, especially considering the number of threads lately about the difficulty many SWers have been having getting non-stripping jobs due to their work history. It doesn't sound bitter to me, it sounds like her reading of what many posters have been saying lately. The 'elite few' comment can be misread -- but who hasn't thought to themselves "Damn, there are too many new girls around here?"

A lot of it isn't about how much $$ people are making, it's about how well you can cover your bills.

If you're saving 40-50% of your earnings every night then it's awesome that you are maximizing your monetary potential.

If you're dancing and making money, that's great. If you broke your ankle tomorrow and could maintain your standard of living for 3-6 months, then you're also wise.

i.breathe.in
07-14-2008, 11:15 AM
well the good thing about the new girls that know nothing of the buisness is that half the time they never come back having different expectations.

and you cant discount the quality of the club and owners. if they hire anything chances are your club isnt very high class or selective. i can see why someone would be mad. i dont have that issue at my club.

cinammonkisses
07-14-2008, 11:19 AM
I know I could keep making money, but I tend to loose my edge and stop hustling after I make that goal.

In that case, then maybe it's time for you to increase your goal by another $100-$200. That way you keep pushing yourself to excel :)

veronicachick
07-14-2008, 11:38 AM
I have a part time job... and I dont have alot of bills to worry about as of now(altho I will in the future) I only pay for my gas... cell..food... and anything extra I might want to buy. But for the most part I strip and save everything I earn. The day I started stripping I decided to open a savings account... and every bit of cash I make I put it in the savings because once I really need that money it will be there for me.
so that's why I don't really shoot that high... I work in south florida so the clubs are high contact and there are plenty of extra girls to go around so the fact that I don't allow the stuff that most of the girls do really compromises with the money I make but I dont really complain because I don't need the money to make ends meet.
with that said... for weekday nights I'll set a goal to earn 300 after tip out... and once I make it I tend to slack off... especially since my club requires us to work 8 hours. I get extremely lazy after the first 4 hours.
on a friday(i don't work sat. and sun) I'll set a goal of 500 after tip out...

most of the time I make the goal but there have been alot of shitty nights for me lately.

needtodance
07-14-2008, 12:00 PM
THANK YOU!

I've been avoiding this thread as well. Particularly because this week, i didn't see even ONE girl at my club take home 100$ in a shift. I didn't even take home 100$ for the whole WEEK! (admittably, i left early one day) This is NOT acceptable at all. Time for a new club. but this IS portland, and with the oversaturation, I can name AT LEAST ten other clubs in the same situation i am. Sure, we have hustlers like Holiday, who can keep pace with other area's of the country, but here that is a MASSIVE exception.

Sigh. I need to get back to the bigger clubs. Though the small bars are cozy, when the girls are consistently NOT making minimum wage, this is INSANE. I've seriously been wishing i had someone to pray to, that there would be random police action that would shut down 3/4 of the clubs in the area.

Its NOT worth the 'advantages' of it being relatively low stigma and low contact.


Part of me wants to not touch this thread with a ten-foot pole, but then, I'd be doing a disservice to all the other girls in low-money towns (mainly Portland) who are noticeably not speaking up... And Yekhefah boldly admitted to the earning levels here in another thread, which gives me courage.

So I'll dish, and have no shame!

At the moment, a hundred is "average", a hundred fifty "pretty good", two hundred "good." (I am working day and mid shifts, but I tend to do better on them comparatively so I choose them on purpose.) This is Portland for you -- a whole nother world. There are, generally speaking, a few of Portland's many clubs with consistently higher earning potential; the ones which permit some contact, or which are top-tier clubs with extremely high appearance standards. There are a fair number of clubs which are "feast or famine". The highest night I've had here has been around $700.

But then:
-I can take the bus to and from the club and not have much to worry about.
-I can consistently work near where I live, sparing commute time and expense.
-Low to no contact.
-Living expenses totalling around $800 per month.
-Shifts about 4-5 hours in length.
-I can tell my neighbors I'm a dancer, and nobody freaks out. (See "low to no contact"; see also strip clubs located in normal neighborhoods.)
-Appearance standards favor natural breasts and minimal tanning, so I don't have to put in as many unpaid hours or pay as many work-related expenses.

And that last thing is part of the bottom line for me -- how much time and money do you have to put in off the clock? When you add it up and average it out, you may be surprised by what that *real* hourly rate is...

I'm hardly the best dancer in Portland, but I'm also hardly the worst. If you doubt me, read the Portland threads in club chat. There are lots of clubs that are basically neighborhood bars and which accordingly have low levels of money -- but also low levels of bullshit.

happygiggles
07-14-2008, 12:05 PM
I completely agree!

if you think in terms of long run, the gap in work history is not worth the 800 a week your making just to "get by".
you can( for the most part) get an entry level job in your field making 600 a week and gaining experience for the rest of your life so that in 10 years you can be making 1500 a week. Rather then back tracking and making 600 in 5 years and working your way up from there.
basically what is that extra 200 a week going to do for you in the long run?
the gap in work history really is only worth making 1500+ a week. other wise get a regular job

Stripping should be left to an elite few
the only reason its not is greedy managment thatll hire anything off the street
and woman who will sell there self worth for peanuts at a time.
just my two cents.



800 a week does not just get me by. and tell me what kinda job i can get making 600 a week? entry level jobs are jobs for people who have degrees.

Jenny
07-14-2008, 12:24 PM
Personally, I don't get why anyone would want to do this for $200 a day, much less $100. Are there jobs where you can earn less? Yes. But do we want to do this job for a little more, or even twice minimum wage? Me, no - absolutely not.

I think, though, that certain people (including me) might tend to forget that not everyone has degrees, skills and work history (albeit distant and spotty). Emily has an excellent degree and marketable skills; other girls might not even have high school diplomas. Some get into this job because they see opportunity; other get in because it is a low skill job and they have, frankly, low skills. Are they "dragging the industry down"? That depends. There is no question that if everyone had minimum earning standards, there would be fewer girls in the business, presumably more money to divide among the remainder, but I would suggest that keeping them out is artificially creating scarcity.

Emily
07-14-2008, 01:17 PM
Personally, I don't get why anyone would want to do this for $200 a day, much less $100. Are there jobs where you can earn less? Yes. But do we want to do this job for a little more, or even twice minimum wage? Me, no - absolutely not.

I think, though, that certain people (including me) might tend to forget that not everyone has degrees, skills and work history (albeit distant and spotty). Emily has an excellent degree and marketable skills; other girls might not even have high school diplomas. Some get into this job because they see opportunity; other get in because it is a low skill job and they have, frankly, low skills. Are they "dragging the industry down"? That depends. There is no question that if everyone had minimum earning standards, there would be fewer girls in the business, presumably more money to divide among the remainder, but I would suggest that keeping them out is artificially creating scarcity.

I realize not everyone has a degree, but we all have the ability to get one, or at least some kind of marketable training. Maybe bartender school, beauty school, dealer school....whatever. Those are jobs with $200/day potential. You might even get a health plan!

I know under $200 night strippers aren't going to leave the business, just like $8/day Chinese laborers aren't going to stop making Barbie dolls. But I can dream!:dreams:

loveandluxury
07-14-2008, 01:22 PM
less than 300... waste of time
300-500... ok night
500-850 good night
850+ great night

I second this.

Bella21
07-14-2008, 01:54 PM
Aside from demographics, $200/night is still good if you're in college and you need the flexible schedule. Not so good if you're a lifer.

leelee lah
07-14-2008, 05:31 PM
I know under $200 night strippers aren't going to leave the business, just like $8/day Chinese laborers aren't going to stop making Barbie dolls. But I can dream!:dreams:

I love u!;D
i was also going to mention bartending, call centers tend to pay pretty well too.

And to I.breath.In.

i was not attackin you personally! But lets all admit it, if you look around there are deffinately some "filler girls" girls that really shouldnt be stripping.
im not even basing that only on looks.. girls that are uneducated, rude, with no manners, and the girls that dont take care of themselves and have no self respect.
THOSE girls, whoever they may be, are the reason the rest of us have to deal with shitty nights.

Being the smart educated woman you are, you would realize that in the long run making 200 a night now is only going to put u at minimum wage 5-10 years from now! is that really worth it? what will you have to show for it?

VegasPrincess
07-14-2008, 05:35 PM
Being the smart educated woman you are, you would realize that in the long run making 200 a night now is only going to put u at minimum wage 5-10 years from now! is that really worth it? what will you have to show for it?

What the fuck? What does making 200 dollars a night now have to do with anything? IBI I'm sure makes about 1000 dollars a week, which is 52,000 dollars a year clear, or like 74K before taxes....So...how many people her age make that amount of money? Especially where she lives? Come on now...

leelee lah
07-14-2008, 05:39 PM
Aside from demographics, $200/night is still good if you're in college and you need the flexible schedule. Not so good if you're a lifer.

This is what i should have said.

Corgan
07-14-2008, 05:43 PM
i think if you're happy with your way of living and are happy with your earnings, you shouldn't care what people think. i know what i make, and when i read some of these comments i was really appalled! but then i had to just think about it...

who fucking cares? seriously.

Perry
07-14-2008, 05:48 PM
Some girls just like dancing. I don't always make good money - but I love my job.

Corgan
07-14-2008, 05:50 PM
^ Me Too!

i'd rather work 3 days a week and live my life on the other 4 than work a job i hate for less money.

i.breathe.in
07-14-2008, 05:57 PM
^ Me Too!

i'd rather work 3 days a week and live my life on the other 4 than work a job i hate for less money.

amen sister.

ultra_manic
07-14-2008, 06:09 PM
This is REALLY depressing. I've only been dancing for maybe 4 months but I'm a fast learner and I;m good at what I do. I'm not a top earner but I'd say I'm withing the top 50% at least and I have NEVER made over 300 not even on a weekend night. I average about 100-150 a day. I can hardly pay my bills and work on paying off my debt, after those bills i'm broke, forget about saving for me at least until my debt is payed.

I need to get out of my shitty little dive hole in the wall no contact table dance club .

i.breathe.in
07-14-2008, 06:12 PM
This is REALLY depressing. I've only been dancing for maybe 4 months but I'm a fast learner and I;m good at what I do. I'm not a top earner but I'd say I'm withing the top 50% at least and I have NEVER made over 300 not even on a weekend night. I average about 100-150 a day. I can hardly pay my bills and work on paying off my debt, after those bills i'm broke, forget about saving for me at least until my debt is payed.

I need to get out of my shitty little dive hole in the wall no contact table dance club .

no contact does not mean no money.

roxanna
07-14-2008, 06:36 PM
I do topless/bikini in LA and do avarage being $100-200, good being $200-$300, great is over $400. Again tho, its LA, no twat and no contact. Saves my sanity, but its tough to pay the bills on. my monthly bills come out to around $1800

Bellona
07-14-2008, 07:57 PM
One of the other girls had a point..what about the girls that are terrific showgirls and do it cause they love to dance? I always do really well but never go on stage, yet some of the features i work with cant pull in 200 a day. Should they stop doing something they love just cause they arent banking?

Sveta
07-14-2008, 09:20 PM
i was also going to mention bartending...

That's part of why I consider $2-300 a night dismal money. Because I made that when I bartended. If I'm getting naked, hustling and putting up with men all night, I expect way more than what I could make standing behind the bar making drinks.

Andygirl
07-14-2008, 09:34 PM
Personally, I don't get why anyone would want to do this for $200 a day, much less $100. Are there jobs where you can earn less? Yes. But do we want to do this job for a little more, or even twice minimum wage? Me, no - absolutely not.

Some of us really like dancing. I can honestly say I love my job. I have always liked it and have always gotten a big kick out of it. It's fun and makes me feel good about myself. Sure, I have bad nights like anyone else, but by and large I am satisfied with my job as a dancer.

From a lot of your posts, I get the sense that you don't really like it. I wouldn't be thrilled if my average went down to $200 a night, but I can't necessarily say I'd quit right away if that happened. While I'm finishing school I am going to dance, regardless of what happens. Hopefully I will continue to do well, but there's always a chance that my average will go down.

VegasPrincess
07-14-2008, 09:36 PM
I just think this thread is pointless, naming numbers, because it IS such a regional thing. I've danced in Chicago, Vegas, Florida & Milwaukee. Milwaukee is just NOT a good place to make money. There ARE NOT girls consistently making 800 a night here...it just...it doesn't happen. Keep in mind we only get to keep 13 dollars out of every lap dance, which takes about 3 songs to do since you have to walk through the club and be seated in a private room. The potential just is not there. Sad, but true. Also, as far as bartending goes....I can think of two or three places in MKE where you could make 200 dollars a night. I just quit, but all winter is was bartending in LITERALLY the most expensive bar/fine dining we have here and my average was 80-120, although once in a blue moon 200-300, certainly not the average. You also have to keep in mind the average income here, or median income, is about 35,000 a year where as in Chicago, I believe it's about 50,000. You can't compare apples to oarnges.....

Corgan
07-14-2008, 09:41 PM
Some of us really like dancing. I can honestly say I love my job. I have always liked it and have always gotten a big kick out of it. It's fun and makes me feel good about myself. Sure, I have bad nights like anyone else, but by and large I am satisfied with my job as a dancer.

I wouldn't be thrilled if my average went down to $200 a night, but I can't necessarily say I'd quit right away if that happened. While I'm finishing school I am going to dance, regardless of what happens. Hopefully I will continue to do well, but there's always a chance that my average will go down.

DING DING DING!

my thoughts exactly.

holiday
07-14-2008, 09:50 PM
I just think this thread is pointless, naming numbers, because it IS such a regional thing. I've danced in Chicago, Vegas, Florida & Milwaukee. Milwaukee is just NOT a good place to make money. Not so pointless...now I know not to dance in Milwaukee ;)

VegasPrincess
07-14-2008, 10:03 PM
^^^

hahha LOL!!!

Aubreyyy
07-14-2008, 10:06 PM
yeah, and there is beginners luck. if anyone is offended by me saying i'm a top earner then oh the hell well.


I'm not offended. I just don't believe you. /:O

Aubreyyy
07-14-2008, 10:13 PM
On topic-

My own living expenses are as follows-

Rent - $450 (my boyfriend pays a large share of our rent)
Bills- $200 (phone, CCs)
Transportation- ($50 in metrocards)
Horse (board, training, etc)- $1000

An average night for me is $500. I'm pleased when I make $700, pissed if I make under $400. I'll die of happiness when I hit $1000.

london
07-14-2008, 10:31 PM
SophiaAshley,

Just to make sure, I wasn't referring to you or any one person in particular about 'luxury' items or 'living well' in my post. You likely weren't referencing me, but just wanted to put that out there.

I was citing dancers (especially the ones I know here in Los Angeles) who mistake living well with living beyond their means. The ones who might make a ton most nights but they HAVE to because they can't keep up with their own idea of what it means to be 'successful'. With quite a few of them, there is nothing left over to save, just another payment to settle! They could have a guy give them 5k in one night, need to pay for a necessary expense, like health care, a reliable car, etc and go out and buy rims or something..... I'd say the girls making a moderate amount compared to the 'hustlers', yet who save more and more over time or obtain assets, like a home, investments, education or kids' education are 'doing their job right'.

I am not at all maternal yet admire and respect women who comfortably support their children in any profession- It's the best investment there is, imo!

anomar
07-14-2008, 10:31 PM
On topic-

My own living expenses are as follows-

Rent - $450 (my boyfriend pays a large share of our rent)
Bills- $200 (phone, CCs)
Transportation- ($50 in metrocards)
Horse (board, training, etc)- $1000

An average night for me is $500. I'm pleased when I make $700, pissed if I make under $400. I'll die of happiness when I hit $1000.

How many nights a week do you work? How much money do you have saved in the bank? Do you have any in investments? Do you put money toward income tax away nightly or on a quarterly basis? Would you consider your health insurance deductible to be high or low? Do you have a retirement acct set up? CC debt?

Obviously you don't have to answer since it's the internet, but if you are laying out the numbers then I would be interested to see how your gross & net income relate to your overall net worth...

Sophia_Starina
07-14-2008, 10:37 PM
How many nights a week do you work? How much money do you have saved in the bank? Do you have any in investments? Do you put money toward income tax away nightly or on a quarterly basis? Would you consider your health insurance deductible to be high or low? Do you have a retirement acct set up? CC debt?


What the hell? /:O

i.breathe.in
07-14-2008, 10:41 PM
this thread is has become one big merry go round of idiocy that even annoys the shit out of me!

msonyxorb
07-14-2008, 10:42 PM
i've been reading a lot on club chat cuz i want to travel and almost everywhere, people say the money's no good. however what one person may consider okay money is excellent money to the next or vice versa depending on her needs. so what is good money for you? for me if i can manage 200 after payouts i'm good
200 used to be good money to me but since i have been getting better at this, now 200 is average for me and im upset if i make less than that. 400 and up is good.

msonyxorb
07-14-2008, 11:49 PM
Lysondra, I agree completly.

I own a three bedroom house that I pay 500 a month on. 500 a night would be a very good night for me but def. not impossible.

I mean, you guys think that's chump change but.... Yeah. That's rent!

omg...i rent a little studio that i pay 1000 a month for :-(

msonyxorb
07-14-2008, 11:53 PM
Why would a car be cheaper in rural areas? Maybe the insurance, but not the actual car or gas.




I live in the Philadelphia suburbs. But I chose to buy a house that's pretty nice and my mortage payment reflects that. But when I first moved out to this area in 2002, I rented 1 bedroom apartment for $460 a month in Phoenixville, PA. It was a safe, clean neighborhood and you could walk to houses that were $400,000+ from there.
not gas??
gas is around 4.50-4.80 for the cheap gas here in LA right now, its probably cheaper where you live.

Corgan
07-14-2008, 11:54 PM
this thread is has become one big merry go round of idiocy that even annoys the shit out of me!

i am agreeing with you more and more here lately!

Emily
07-14-2008, 11:56 PM
gas cheaper, but not significantly. And that's more an issue of California tax, not general cost of living. Do you really want to split hairs over taxes?

This thread IS getting kind of stupid.

Lysondra
07-14-2008, 11:57 PM
How many nights a week do you work? How much money do you have saved in the bank? Do you have any in investments? Do you put money toward income tax away nightly or on a quarterly basis? Would you consider your health insurance deductible to be high or low? Do you have a retirement acct set up? CC debt?

Obviously you don't have to answer since it's the internet, but if you are laying out the numbers then I would be interested to see how your gross & net income relate to your overall net worth...

ALRIGHT FINE - I'll bite on this one...

2-3.

4 grand in the bank - but my bank doesnt have the majority of my money.

Yes.

Quarterly.

My health is paid for by the government. I pay $100 a month for a more exclusive health care that allowed me free physio and massage and chiro. Other than that, I pay -nothing-. MAYBE $10 for medications. Maybe.

Yes. My retirement is more than in my bank currently. I'm 22 with a retirement fund, don't think I'm doing terrible.

No. I have absolutely no debt.


Now - my turn: WTF does this have to do with anything? How does it make what we earn any more or less significant? How does it make what we view as good money or bad many? How does this MATTER?!

Aubreyyy
07-15-2008, 12:03 AM
How many nights a week do you work? How much money do you have saved in the bank? Do you have any in investments? Do you put money toward income tax away nightly or on a quarterly basis? Would you consider your health insurance deductible to be high or low? Do you have a retirement acct set up? CC debt?

Obviously you don't have to answer since it's the internet, but if you are laying out the numbers then I would be interested to see how your gross & net income relate to your overall net worth...

A little intrusive...not really sure why you need to know?

I have enough money saved in the bank, and the only investment I own is a young imported horse currently doing some growing in a field in NC. My health insurance is through my parents- I'm 20 years old. I have no CC debt, no car debt, no student loans. My checking account varies a lot, but as I live in NY, most of my extra money goes to either shopping or entertainment.

Lysondra
07-15-2008, 12:04 AM
Aubreyyy, you're only twenty? Wow, I always think you're so much more mature... :)

Aubreyyy
07-15-2008, 12:07 AM
^^^

Aww, thank you :) I feel like I've grown up a ton since moving to the city last year and started dancing.

Leona_Anne
07-15-2008, 12:36 AM
Re: food stamps. I am on food stamps, but so is half of Hawaii. Hawaii is the most expensive state and even making about $5000 a month barely pays for rent ($1200 for a tiny, shitty studio), bills (don't even get me started on electric bills and water bills out here), plus food. Not to mention my BPD meds, which can cost me upwards of $200/month. So I applied for food stamps and medical and got both, as well as $40 cash benefits a month so I can get to and from work.

You have to understand the living conditions some people are living in before judging them.

I just got back into dancing though, so my previous income was barely $2000 a month. I got back into dancing because I need to pay off so many bills. First I pay my bills, then I pay off debt, then I can start to save, but until then, I will take any effin support I can get, so please stop hating on girls who DO need the help and support from the government.

thechaosfairy
07-15-2008, 04:33 AM
I laugh bitterly at the comments from people who've made $200/day in desk jobs.

That, for Oregon folks, would be called "a job in another state", or "having gone to law school."

I don't think it's totally impossible to get a job here, but based on my experience and the experience of the people I know, it's very difficult to get something paying over $9/hr with less than a couple of years *recent* experience in *that* field (not a related field, but doing the same exact thing.) Which blocks recent college graduates, who've been going to school instead of working when the economy was slightly better. One has to get pretty lucky. Another poster mentioned seeing an ad for dishwashers... requiring experience.

Despite having spent the last several years in school, I'm intending to go back and try for a medical field, even though the waiting lists are insane, just because it's the only thing these days for a guaranteed paycheck.

Here's an example: "entry level customer service": http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/csr/755194873.html
"•One year customer service experience, in outdoor retail sales, and experience selling Yakima racks preferred "

Way too specific -- because they can afford to be.