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msonyxorb
07-18-2008, 03:03 AM
mostly due to other factors that bother them when it comes to sleeping with random women, not because they really really really want a spouse. they have compromised, either because it's not safe or practical or even viable financially to sleep around. i mean, sure plenty of guys are successful enough to have a nice life with a wife, but very few are successful enough to be a baller 24/7 and even then there's stds and psychos to deal with. every guy i've ever talked to immediately starts talking about the disadvantages of sleeping around when considering settling down because that's the ONLY factor to a successful man, a loser has more reason to settle down because on top of the reasons stated above, having a spouse is even more convenient and can actually be a good financial decision. he's not going to come across many, if any random women, someone needs to be reliable.

and there's a good chance half of the guys you're referring to were just full of shit and trying to fuck you. liars do exist.


um can you stop calling guys who arent billionaires losers?
it seems like the only guys who are truly losers are guys that are pathetic enough to think that they can buy women and refuse to settle down because some golddigging whores will fuck them for free in hopes of getting his money some day. prime example- TOM LEYKIS. total loser. succesful loser who thinks he isnt fat and absolutely hideous cuz hes rich. i cant believe women still fuck him when hes constantly talking about how you should never pay for pussy.

and ps, i also have met successful guys who wanna settle down. theyre all a little old for me, and yes i did go out with a 41 year old, but for some reason he never felt old to me. these guys do.

msonyxorb
07-18-2008, 03:11 AM
College is a good place to meet people. Take an extended study class in an area that interest you, you'll likely find someone with more in common with you.

The whole Barnes & Nobles concept is pretty good too, all sorts of people go there, they all need all sorts of books... loiter around the car & sports books. Lol...

& Of course, there's always friends! Sometimes friends, or a friend of a friend knows someone "perfect" for you. Try attending an event with some friends and see if they have cute mutual buddies.

lmao if i wanted to date a guy into cars and sports id just date the fat unnattractive weirdos i see on the dating sites. ewww. just envisioning a guy into that kind of stuff makes me wanna barf.

yeah...all my friends are like...exes lol. god i really need more friends. i dont have the patience or interest to deal with them though. im so anti social. the only person i ever devote any time to and enjoy spending time with is a boyfriend. or maybe i just dont meet enough cool people that i would be interested in being friends with, i dont know. i meet too many boring losers :-(
prbly cuz i am one myself :-(
its so fucked i want someone who is super cool and hip when i myself am so boring. no wonder my awesome mod ex broke up with me :-(

msonyxorb
07-18-2008, 03:14 AM
which would be fine if you weren't putting rich successful people on a pedestal and claiming i'm wrong because i'm not rich enough.

which just proves my point, people that aren't rich (me) are losers in the eyes of society.

but i'm wrong because i'm not rich, so the universe just imploded.

um...you're the one putting rich people on a pedestal...simply by saying anyone who is not rich is a loser....

to me a loser is someone who thinks he is better than he is. plenty of successful people fall into this category. especially rich guys who think being rich makes up for their lack of looks, intelligence, personality, etc.

msonyxorb
07-18-2008, 03:19 AM
To try and answer re the OP...

Have you thought about taking up a hobby where the kind of person you want to meet will be?

As an example, about 9 months ago, I took up salsa and go to one or two lessons per week. I meet very nice, very attractive, sober (a problem in the UK) and often single girls every week now.

Maybe there is something similar that could work for you? Wine tasting classes? The local chamber of commerce?

I also heard Europe mentioned above... Its funny, in an ironic kind of way, but I have loads of friends that would love to meet the intelligent and attractive lasses of this site - but there is a big ocean in between us all.

Note to self - start a Europe / SW dating agency. :-X

Lol i am 22. i dont want to date a guy id meet in a wine tasting class. and wtf at chamber of commerce. i have considered going to music clubs since i want a guy who is into cool music, but omg i am so shy, and again CLUB SETTING seems to equal brothel here in LA. guys just go there to get laid for the most part :-(.

and i also dont have anyone to go with. only my ex, and that would be weird me trying to pick up guys with my ex right next to me lol. im far too scared to go alone. i need more female friends :-(

snoopy
07-18-2008, 07:14 AM
y'know? i wasn't going to post or even follow this thread but anytime lysondra posts in a thread in rapid succession it likely means she's ripping someone apart.

free entertainment! ;D

i'm somewhat ashamed to say i find a certain sadistic enjoyment from watching her posts/slams. screw the lap dance, gimme a flame war! :devil:

Vyanka
07-18-2008, 07:16 AM
Durka, just shitted all over this thread.

threlayer
07-18-2008, 07:55 AM
I think the above conversation (rich vs not rich) applies to a few men, but it's not worth generalizing about. Besides, the OP does not mention wealth and those types are not worth pursuing anyhow.

When a conversation gets off track, often the flames begin.

Now back to the OP. If you can find a dancing group (swing, country etc) where the guys are not GAY, and where there are enough of them, you have a start because you are close enough to a dance partner to have a conversation with them. Or other non-family groups/situations where conversations are the thing are possibilities. I'm not saying bar talk either. And not arguments.

TigersMilk
07-18-2008, 08:47 AM
You guys realize he's 20 years old right?
Its like talking to a cardboard box.

All Good Things
07-18-2008, 08:54 AM
I'm still trying to figure out where I stand in Hello Kitty's classification:

1. Gay
2. Taken
3. Bat-shit crazy
4. Scumbag

We should do a poll on this for the guys. ;D

Anyway, I too was puzzled by why financial status was dragged into this. Not only is it irrelevant, it's been totally misrepresented.

Money is about the least important factor -- initially -- to women. Everything else is more important -- how funny, interesting, creative, offbeat, geeky, kind, honest, intelligent and compassionate he is are all more important. Hell, even how tall he is comes out as more important in every survey I've ever seen.

Also, there are powerful societal forces driving financially successful men to be married. I don't know a single CEO of a Fortune 500 company -- not one -- who is single. Same with the full partners of major law firms, brokerage houses, banks, even NFL franchises.

There are a few exceptions -- people in the entertainment industry, sports figures, some artists, poets and authors and entrepreneurs. But generally these people are more freaks than normals in other important ways -- hey, I'm one, so I get to say that -- and staying independent is an important part of their identity.

I think there's also the feeling that if you're a corporate officer of a major company and you are single, you may be out doing something completely insane like blowing millions of dollars on strippers or something..... Ah, uh-oh. :)

StuartL
07-18-2008, 08:55 AM
You guys realize he's 20 years old right?
Its like talking to a cardboard box.

hahahahahahaahaa excellent

StuartL
07-18-2008, 08:58 AM
I'm still trying to figure out where I stand in Hello Kitty's classification:

1. Gay
2. Taken
3. Bat-shit crazy
4. Scumbag

We should do a poll on this for the guys. ;D


I tried to avoid thinking about this too.

Not 1. Not 2. Pretty sure not 3. Hopefully not 4.

Should number 5 be "Cardboard box" - then I'm not that either.

snoopy
07-18-2008, 09:31 AM
i'm gay.





well, not really but it's a useful tactic to avoid the "game". bleh. i've even thought about wearing my old wedding ring (i actually liked wearing it, just as a jewelry thing) but i don't want to give my bat-shit crazy family any false hopes. :-X

i especially don't want to confuse my girls though. it's nice ring though. :-\

threlayer
07-18-2008, 10:24 AM
...Hello Kitty's classification:
1. Gay
2. Taken
3. Bat-shit crazy
4. Scumbag


The problem with this is that it is incomplete and only represents a few people's impression/luck/experience. Don't be fooled. There are good potential mates out there, but typically what is 'left over' is not first class material.

anomar
07-18-2008, 11:38 AM
lmao if i wanted to date a guy into cars and sports id just date the fat unnattractive weirdos i see on the dating sites. ewww. just envisioning a guy into that kind of stuff makes me wanna barf.

yeah...all my friends are like...exes lol. god i really need more friends. i dont have the patience or interest to deal with them though. im so anti social. the only person i ever devote any time to and enjoy spending time with is a boyfriend. or maybe i just dont meet enough cool people that i would be interested in being friends with, i dont know. i meet too many boring losers :-(
prbly cuz i am one myself :-(
its so fucked i want someone who is super cool and hip when i myself am so boring. no wonder my awesome mod ex broke up with me :-(

What part of Los Angeles do you live in? I am from there.

Reading this thread it sounds like you have a pretty good idea of what you *don't* want... do you know what you *do* want? In terms of character traits, shared interests, etc? What are your favorite books and activities?

Instead of thinking 'where to meet guys', if you can think 'where to meet guys who are in to watching movies in film groups' or 'guys that like this kind of music', it might help you narrow your focus a lot. :)

I mentioned meeting my boyfriend off CL -- I did a search for guys within like 5 years of my age. His ad was very intelligent and mentioned many of my favorite authors and activities. We hit it off right away when we finally met IRL! (We emailed a bunch first.)

Hello_Kitty27
07-18-2008, 03:03 PM
The problem with this is that it is incomplete and only represents a few people's impression/luck/experience. Don't be fooled. There are good potential mates out there, but typically what is 'left over' is not first class material.

Don't get me wrong, I didn't know the OP was 22....it's a whole different world out there! I'm 28, therefore all the good ones are taken and the rest (gay, bat-shit crazy and scumbag) don't really count for me.

Plus, i admit, this original post came at a REALLY bad time, when I had literally been told like 5 minutes prior to reading it, how great and wonderful I am, BY YET ANOTHER MARRIED DUDE, who would otherwise be awesome dating material. So, I was kinda bitter when I first responded!! The timing was kinda funny. :D For me anyways.

shasta
07-18-2008, 03:10 PM
not being successful doesnt make you a loser. none of us are successful (otherwise we wouldnt be stripping to pay our bills) so are we all losers?



I am successful. Your comment is false.

rubyredlipsss
07-18-2008, 04:05 PM
Ah but you live in North Carolina. I live in Los Angeles, land of the beautiful people, I'm just another face in the crowd here :-(.

People rarely go up and talk to me and when they do its always loud bold nasty low class low lifes who try to "holla" at me...or homeless people. Homeless people totally think they have a chance with me. One time a homeless man kept "hollaring" at me while i was walking through venice beach. I gave him the finger and he got soooo mad hes like "IS THAT HOW U TREAT PEOPLE WHO TRY TO TALK TO YOU!!!!" I can't remember his exact words but i was afraid he was gonna shoot me.

haha, a homeless guy hit on me once too. he was like so can i have your number?? i told him no. (i mean really, does he even have a phone?)

I find it really hard to meet guys in LA...but I figure I don't get hit on when I'm out and about because I'm too unfriendly, never smiling and definitely don't look approachable. I guess it's something that would be easier if I was approachable, but honestly it's just not my personality. I try to meet guys through friends, it's the only thing that's sort of worked.

msonyxorb
07-18-2008, 10:47 PM
What part of Los Angeles do you live in? I am from there.

Reading this thread it sounds like you have a pretty good idea of what you *don't* want... do you know what you *do* want? In terms of character traits, shared interests, etc? What are your favorite books and activities?

Instead of thinking 'where to meet guys', if you can think 'where to meet guys who are in to watching movies in film groups' or 'guys that like this kind of music', it might help you narrow your focus a lot. :)

I mentioned meeting my boyfriend off CL -- I did a search for guys within like 5 years of my age. His ad was very intelligent and mentioned many of my favorite authors and activities. We hit it off right away when we finally met IRL! (We emailed a bunch first.)

lmao yeah i definately know what i DONT want, but im usually pretty flexible about what i do like so long as they dont fit into any of the various things i dont want. right now i really just want my ex. if i could find a 25 year old version of him that would be awesome. i want a guy who is like different or artsy or something, talented, but not a womanizer like many talented men tend to be. i also want someone a million times cooler than i am, so thats probably one of my problems. i used to be into film guys, but not so much anymore. its like the more i live the more stuff bores me. one day nothing is going to excite me anymore! wtf how am i so jaded at 22?
anyway my ex was really into the 60s, his house even SMELLED like the 60s. we would sing together and stuff and he knew all this musical history that i thought was really cool and is really into the British invasion and he was this cute little skinny mod guy who wore shirts tighter than mine and wore the same size jeans as me. i even gave him a pair of brazilian flairs i no longer wanted lol. i just found him fascinating. i want to date more fascinating people.

oh yeah i just moved to sherman oaks, but i travel around LA a lot.

pookie
07-19-2008, 12:24 AM
oh i dont know about that. european guys i meet at the club tend to be really really really pervy. i guess cuz in europe they are more "open about their sexuality"
I guess its supposed to be a positive thing but european men and their open sexuality just rub me the wrong way and creep me out.
and thats funny you mention the class thing because my last semester of college i kept changing my classes in hopes id get some classes with cute guys in it...didnt work. im so pathetic, i even sat outside some of my "potential classes" and would look at who went in and id never see any cute guys go in so id just leave and drop the class when i got home lol. i guess classes im interested in dont have cute guys signing up for them.

Yeah some European men do that. Like italy. I was in a disco in Italy and that happened to me. But of course meeting them in bar bring that crowd in. But its not like some Americans wont do that either.

Its nice to have hot guys in ur classes. It makes it more entertaining. :)

StuartL
07-19-2008, 05:12 AM
^^^ Aren't those things that could happen anywhere? I mean they may be in the US or Europe, but they are still men, and lots of them do that. Of course, it may have been alcohol related too...

pookie
07-19-2008, 07:51 AM
^^ Yeah, that was also my thought too

Perry
07-19-2008, 11:08 AM
Dude, I didn't even fuck any of the rich guys that told me this. Do you know any actual rich people or did you just get your info off MTV? We're not talking rapstars and their ho's here, I'm talking about CEOs and real rich men. Like, hard working earned rich men who used business (they're more likely anyway!).

G-d you wouldn't believe how many I met that were so desperate for a long term commitment but they never had time to find a woman to settle down with... they didn't even just get laid because it was too meaningless and THAT took time they didn't have as well.

I can't believe that: 1. you think a loser is someone without money and 2. a loser is the only person that would want to be monogomous.

Just because if you were rich you wouldn't have had settle for what you have doesn't mean everyone feels the same as you.

Urrrrghhh... I have so many wealthy friends and it's judgement likes your that makes them hate people.

My bf went 2 years without sex. He wanted a relationship and couldn't find anyone else who did. It was all or nothing - and good, successfull guys make those kind of calls.

Back on topic, we started talking on Facebook - but we met in high school. Have any old crushes to look up?

Nuclear Martini
07-19-2008, 12:28 PM
Okay, all of you should just be happy your dating pool isn't limited to the men of Miami. The guys here don't interest me one bit.

Glamgirl
07-19-2008, 01:22 PM
You are very lucky you dont live in my area, the guys here are either, chavs,sleazes,chavs,taken,gay,assholes or chavs! lol
I knew there was a reason why i joined sugardaddie.com ;)

But honestly i think the friend of a friend option is good. My friends bf's friend came over for the weekend and my friend said how much i would love him. Hes got a great job and lives in a very expensive house Valencia, broke up with his gf 6 months back and looks like Orlando Bloom. Now if only he lived here!

threlayer
07-19-2008, 09:05 PM
If they are too busy to give atention to you during 'courtshp.' wonder how busy they'll be after you are 'hooked?'


BTW, this applies both ways.

J_Lynne
07-20-2008, 12:56 AM
It's not an insult, it's a statement based on the information given.

You seem to have enough time for strippers on this site. Enough time = not enough money = loser.

We're only using your own theories to ascertain the conclusion that you, my dear, are a loser.

:D lmao

StuartL
07-20-2008, 03:55 AM
You are very lucky you dont live in my area, the guys here are either, chavs,sleazes,chavs,taken,gay,assholes or chavs! lol

Ah modern Britain. Makes you feel proud to be British...