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saphire123456
07-25-2008, 11:10 AM
:party: :drum: :tube: :beer: :dazzled:
TheTempest
07-25-2008, 11:45 AM
No biggie! I'd prefer a ladies only event this time around, anyway.
I'm in, as long as it's really Ladies only this time!! No scary party crashers and we hold our own purses this time!!
Golden_Rule
07-25-2008, 01:20 PM
yeah i second that thought (sorry GR)
I'm in, as long as it's really Ladies only this time!! No scary party crashers and we hold our own purses this time!!
^^^ Damn straight! As long as we have a big enough group, I think we can hold our own. Of course, we could always make Ody and Boy drive the van (and keep our purses in there) so we all can drink! :D
Mannerhasserin!
Couldn't make with the umlaut.
:)
TheTempest
07-25-2008, 01:26 PM
^^^ Damn straight! As long as we have a big enough group, I think we can hold our own. Of course, we could always make Ody and Boy drive the van (and keep our purses in there) so we all can drink! :D
But...but... then it wouldn't be ladies only.........
......although, Ody is more than happy to drive around a van load of strippers! :D
Golden_Rule
07-25-2008, 01:36 PM
I have a friend with a high end dance club in North Jersey.
My evil nature is whispering to me to find out what day this women's only shindig will be and than announcing a comped evening; free entry, nibbles and drinks for SW members from 8pm til Midnight. See who shows up where?
Muhahahahahahahahahahahahaha! ;)
A social experiment in which is stronger... the sisterhood or the draw of free food and booze. :)
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In fact, I am only teasing. Not about having the friend with the club. Just about using it in that manner. I wouldn't do that to you [try to split you down the middle that is].
If you want to have a woman's only G2G that's just fine, but I think it is rather telling that when the notion of a SW G2G comes up the first thought of some of you is to exclude the male members of SW.
I couldn't imagine a blue side notion of a G2G coming up in any region and the the guys being, ummm.... I'll come but why don't we make it men only.
I guess men are more cordial and pron to be more socially compatible with both genders. :)
And if it seems that my feelings are a little hurt... could be. Men have feelings too you know and no one, male or female, likes being a member of a social gathering point like SW and then being excluded from its activities.
sparkleeyz
07-25-2008, 02:17 PM
Poconos
Golden_Rule
07-25-2008, 02:18 PM
Right. I'm sure it couldn't be that guys have a greater desire to socialize with strippers for free OTC than strippers have to socialize with customers for free. Nah, couldn't be anything like that.
BLT?
That would totally depend on the individual man in question.
1) If he is the kind of man who thinks of people as people first, and their gender - social status - race - sexual orientation -job, etc as entirely secondary and of minor consideration, if he just enjoys socializing for the sake of socializing - than no, I wouldn't presume that at all.
2) Now, if he is the other type I would think that might be a distinct possibility.
Since you immediately jumped to the latter conclusion may I put you down in group number two?
TheTempest
07-25-2008, 02:24 PM
I have a friend with a high end dance club in North Jersey.
My evil nature is whispering to me to find out what day this women's only shindig will be and than announcing a comped evening; free entry, nibbles and drinks for SW members from 8pm til Midnight. See who shows up where?
Muhahahahahahahahahahahahaha! ;)
A social experiment in which is stronger... the sisterhood or the draw of free food and booze. :)
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In fact, I am only teasing. Not about having the friend with the club. Just about using it in that manner. I wouldn't do that to you [try to split you down the middle that is].
If you want to have a woman's only G2G that's just fine, but I think it is rather telling that when the notion of a SW G2G comes up the first thought of some of you is to exclude the male members of SW.
I couldn't imagine a blue side notion of a G2G coming up in any region and the the guys being, ummm.... I'll come but why don't we make it men only.
I guess men are more cordial and pron to be more socially compatible with both genders. :)
And if it seems that my feelings are a little hurt... could be. Men have feelings too you know and no one, male or female, likes being a member of a social gathering point like SW and then being excluded from its activities.
I'd go to the event I have to pay for... going into a strip club as a customer has never worked out for me!
Can your high end club get me a job? LOL Just kidding.
Golden_Rule
07-25-2008, 02:32 PM
I'd go to the event I have to pay for... going into a strip club as a customer has never worked out for me!
Can your high end club get me a job? LOL Just kidding.
Its a dance club. Not a strip-club. Most of the bartenders are good looking guys so not many gigs there for women. [Why. Simple. Dances clubs draw men clientele if single women come to them. Good looking male bartenders draw single women. The mice to the cheese... the cats to the mice. :) ]
xdamage
07-25-2008, 02:35 PM
I couldn't imagine a blue side notion of a G2G coming up in any region and the the guys being, ummm.... I'll come but why don't we make it men only.
I guess men are more cordial and pron to be more socially compatible with both genders.
I interpret it a little different.
While I have on occasion seen the guys suggest a casual meeting an SC among themselves (e.g., a couple of members both in the same town at the same time), I have never seen any real interest in putting together or attending a male only SW gathering. On the flip side the dancers have arranged a reasonable size gathering several times, so...
Let me lay it on the line. I think the idea of socializing with hot younger women is a draw for us, but we have little interest in socializing with each other. On the flip side, there is little or no draw for strippers to socialize with us, mostly older, guys. We aren't paying them. We don't look that great. We aren't that amusing especially if you consider they spend a great deal of time around guys like us in the SC all day, so...
Look, if we all had pics up and were young hot males who knows, the invitations may be more likely, but even then, they can attract those kind of men in other venues. We all like to think we are interesting, but we aren't "that" interesting that they want to hang out with us for fun, so...
so... I wouldn't take it negatively. Makes complete sense from their shoes.
Golden_Rule
07-25-2008, 02:58 PM
Let me lay it on the line. I think the idea of socializing with hot younger women is a draw for us, but we have little interest in socializing with each other.
Maybe its just me and it goes to a post I made on the blue side about a similar subject not so long ago. I know that many of these women have no sexual interest in men like me and that most of those that do only do so for the remuneration involved. On that level it is mutual because I have no sexual interest in them outside of a play for pay involvement. I DON'T WANT "FREE" SEX FROM THEM and therefore wouldn't socialize with them simply because they are women, young, and pretty. I'm not interested in being romantically involved with someone half my age with no mutual points of reference.
When I want sex with someone younger than myself I'll seek out a willing partner and come to a satisfactory meeting of mutual needs. You see, I am not paying for the sex. I pay for the privilege of no social ties and the ability to go our separate ways with no social encumbrances other than the money that changed hands. IOW I don't pay for them to come to me, I pay for them to leave.
Sex, in order to be fair, has to be about quid pro quo. Each takes. Each gives. If a woman shares her sex the rules of social comportment say she has certain rights to my time, attention, etc. I pay to remove those social obligations.
[b]I am interested in people in general and in that regard, and ONLY that regard, I like meeting new folks when I feel in the mood to meet new folks. If there was to be a social gathering of a group of people who share an interest in something, strip-clubs by way of this example, and I am a member of that group of course I'd like to think I was welcome to the gathering as simply one of their number. Who, if they are telling the truth, wouldn't want to be invited. It would feel like a snub if you weren't [and it does].
Look, if we all had pics up and were young hot males who knows, the invitations may be more likely,
At the risk of sounding hypocritical for a man who just said he willing pays women to surrender their social demands on him in the normal exchange of sexual favors, I will state I would hope that wasn't the case because if it were that would be awfully shallow of them.
so... I wouldn't take it negatively. Makes complete sense from their shoes.
I don't disagree. Though I am hardly the kind of person who lets people off the hook for being hypocritical or shallow simply because it makes sense for them to be. I'll call myself on it as I am my own worst critic, but being that kind of fellow who isn't afraid to call myself on my own hypocrisy allows me the freedom to point out others with equal abandon. :)
P.S: BTW, let me add that I have always enjoyed and appreciated your desire to share ideas, tolerence for others POVs, and the way you obviously engage your mind before your keyboard. Whether we've agreed or not, and I know there have been both, it is always both interesting and refreshing to exchange thoughts with you.
Thank you.
Golden_Rule
07-25-2008, 03:13 PM
Sure it would be - if they stayed their asses in the van and watched our purses! It would be like having a free driver and free security! :D
You are a character aren't you... :)
Too bad we'll probably never meet. I am very fond of characters. I am one myself, as you've probably guessed.
I gather we'd either have a splendid evening shooting the shit or loath each other on sight.
Either would be interesting. :)
wishing well...
TheTempest
07-25-2008, 04:32 PM
Sure it would be - if they stayed their asses in the van and watched our purses! It would be like having a free driver and free security! :D
Yeah, Ody won't go for that AT ALL. He actually has stuff he could do by himself. :)
TheTempest
07-25-2008, 04:34 PM
Its a dance club. Not a strip-club. Most of the bartenders are good looking guys so not many gigs there for women. [Why. Simple. Dances clubs draw men clientele if single women come to them. Good looking male bartenders draw single women. The mice to the cheese... the cats to the mice. :) ]
That's OK, I've read your trip reports and I think I'd avoid strip clubs you like. Nothing personal, just differences in tastes. :)
Personally, I'd still go to a bar where no men know us. Easier to flirt when no boys are around.
I love being "those girls" everyone hates. :)
Golden_Rule
07-25-2008, 05:43 PM
That's OK, I've read your trip reports and I think I'd avoid strip clubs you like. Nothing personal, just differences in tastes. :)
No offense taken.
Actually, as long as the people in them aren't totally plastic I enjoy many different kinds of clubs.
My favorite place I've written about several times is simply a neighborhood tavern with good eats, good folks and just happens to have go-go as well. Its owned by a former dancer and her husband. A real "mom/pop" place. It even still pays set fees to the dancers, has no lap dance area [and no lap/table dances].
I go there to get a sandwich or a burger and talk to the locals about what's news. Like sitting on the front porch of the general store chatting over a cracker barrel, sort of. :)
I post those kinds of trip reports, naked as they are, because they represent an under reported experience in modern strip-clubs and remove [maybe rip to some people's view] some of the rosy, romantic, haze that seems to be the varnish of choice for many of the trip reports written by others.
Maybe its having been a big city cop for 25 years, but the camera that is my eye takes pictures of life with no vaseline on the lens. If the pictures are gritty its because what I am looking at is gritty. That doesn't mean it can't also be beautiful. The two things aren't always mutually exclusive.
Personally, I'd still go to a bar where no men know us. Easier to flirt when no boys are around.
Where no MEN know us... when no BOYS are around.
Freudian. Very Freudian.
If I were to take a fling at interpreting that I'd probably guess that you are saying real men don't go to strip-clubs. Boys on the other hand...
If that is what you think, there might be validity to that. I'd be the first to admit that while I consider myself to be a good man, I am a something of a bad boy. :)
I love being "those girls" everyone hates. :)
Nothing wrong with that. I appreciate the candor as well.
Speaking of well, that is what I wish you... well. :)
xdamage
07-25-2008, 05:48 PM
At the risk of sounding hypocritical for a man who just said he willing pays women to surrender their social demands on him in the normal exchange of sexual favors, I will state I would hope that wasn't the case because if it were that would be awfully shallow of them.
I have said on the blue side many times in the past, as far as I can see us guys are pretty shallow too, so at least it is fair and even. I mean how many guys do you know who say they love women for their personalities, but for some reason, only have crushes and lust after hotties? Strange coincidence? Or cause and effect?
So if that is shallow, there is plenty of it going around. I know I am really shallow many times. Fact is I see a hot woman and several hundred million years of instinct and biology turns on and suddenly I'm interested in what she has to say. I could pretend it wasn't so but that would be a lie. And sure, I should give everyone an equal chance, but the fact is I am far more inclined to be interested in and agree with a hot woman. I'm far more likely to want to spend time with them. This is fact. Personality matters, sure, a lot, but I really can't fault people for being people. Sexual attraction is a reality, and it impacts on who of the opposite sex we want to spend time with.
Is that shallow? I think it's just human nature, and beyond me to judge the merits of it, good or bad. It works, or at least it evolved and thrived in the gene pool. /shrug
krchab99
07-25-2008, 08:56 PM
born and raised in pittsbugh pa
Golden_Rule
07-26-2008, 07:06 AM
I have said on the blue side many times in the past, as far as I can see us guys are pretty shallow too, so at least it is fair and even.
People are as they are. I don't try and change that. What I will call folks on though is their BS, as readily as I'll admit to my own [when I see it, and while not perfect in that account I am an introspective sort and am relatively aware of my short comings, as well as my good points].
I mean how many guys do you know who say they love women for their personalities, but for some reason, only have crushes and lust after hotties?
Young guys, sure. We get older, and smarter, I trust.
I know I am really shallow many times.
Yes, but you are willing to admit it and call it what it is. That is a HUGE mitigating factor in my book.
Is that shallow? I think it's just human nature, and beyond me to judge the merits of it, good or bad. It works, or at least it evolved and thrived in the gene pool. /shrug
You don't have to sell me on the biological imperative. Male and female alike. I am one of its chief cheerleaders. We all have our reptilian instincts, stored in the base of our brains and brain stem, the mammalian instincts of our cerebral cortex. Frontal lobes, on the evolutionary scale, are a relatively recent development. :)
TheTempest
07-26-2008, 09:46 AM
Where no MEN know us... when no BOYS are around.
Freudian. Very Freudian.
If I were to take a fling at interpreting that I'd probably guess that you are saying real men don't go to strip-clubs. Boys on the other hand...
If that is what you think, there might be validity to that. I'd be the first to admit that while I consider myself to be a good man, I am a something of a bad boy. :)
Nothing wrong with that. I appreciate the candor as well.
Speaking of well, that is what I wish you... well. :)
I hate Freud. He was a misogynistic ass. Also, I'm a writer - I try not to use the same word twice in a sentence or in close proximity. There is no reading into there. My friends go to SCs... my FB goes to stripclubs. Stop trying to find meaning where there is nothing deeper than what's stated.
TheTempest
07-26-2008, 09:47 AM
Haha Well, as you know, my Boy has no life so we can just rent ourselves a passenger van and have him play driver/muscle! ;D
I don't know, I'd still rather girls night be... y'know, girls only. Boy can drop you off and the rest of us can fend for ourselves on that front.
xdamage
07-26-2008, 07:09 PM
Young guys, sure. We get older, and smarter, I trust.
It seems so, that we learn to value personality more over looks as we grow older (perhaps in great part because we ourselves have less to offer in the looks department and are hoping to change the rules of the game?), yet as you are aware, despite that and all of our supposed maturing... The SCs are full of older guys like us, spending money to be around hot women. We aren't spending money to be around unattractive women with mature personalities. In fact it is really hard to imagine a SC of 40-50+ year old normal looking women succeeding. So... things that make us go "hmmm" about ourselves.
Golden_Rule
07-27-2008, 07:02 PM
I hate Freud. He was a misogynistic ass. Also, I'm a writer - I try not to use the same word twice in a sentence or in close proximity. There is no reading into there. My friends go to SCs... my FB goes to stripclubs. Stop trying to find meaning where there is nothing deeper than what's stated.
OOOOOOK.
I know this medium is very flat, lacking in dimension, so that intent, nuance and feeling sometimes get lost. I didn't think it would be that hard to realize that what I had written about Freud, etc, was tongue in cheek and I wasn't looking for any meaning, deeper or other wise. I was just going for the funny bone. Though I admit in a very droll, bordering on arid, way.
I have a dry sense of humor. What can I say?
Golden_Rule
07-27-2008, 07:17 PM
It seems so, that we learn to value personality more over looks as we grow older (perhaps in great part because we ourselves have less to offer in the looks department and are hoping to change the rules of the game?), yet as you are aware, despite that and all of our supposed maturing... The SCs are full of older guys like us, spending money to be around hot women. We aren't spending money to be around unattractive women with mature personalities. In fact it is really hard to imagine a SC of 40-50+ year old normal looking women succeeding. So... things that make us go "hmmm" about ourselves.
Right. Because I firmly believe I can have my cake and eat it too.
When I am looking for love I place personality, ability to care, common points of reference, shared views of he world and a viable sense of humor over looks.
When I am being shallow and just interested in looks I open my wallet to compensate the individual on the other side of the equation to forgo their wants, needs, and desires and deal with me precisely as I am and my wants, need and desires.
There is always give and take in all "relationships". No one gets something for nothing. There is always consideration. In the case of the PYT and the older man who wants to tap into her youth and sexual appeal so he can experience what he use to get in his youth for other reasons now replaces that with gifts of cash, jewelry, access to places and things she'd find difficult to experience on her own, etc.
We didn't make these rules. Neither you or I cause young women to be willing to exchange access to their physical selves for these things. No means no in my book, as I am sure it does in yours. When they voluntarily say yes it is because they want what we have, just as we want what they have. Perfect symmetry. An equation in perfect balance and decidedly fair for both sides.
Quid pro quo. What more could you ask for. :)
Sveta
07-27-2008, 08:53 PM
What more could you ask for.
Less pretentious rambling, perhaps? :yes:
Golden_Rule
07-27-2008, 10:03 PM
Less pretentious rambling, perhaps? :yes:
^^^^^^ :no:
:P
You might not like how I phrased it but I invite you to show me precisely where anything I said is wrong.
Golden_Rule
07-27-2008, 10:09 PM
Less pretentious rambling, perhaps? :yes:
Seriously. It's not like we're saying we don't just want to hang out with you, G_R, we would prefer not to have ANY guys at the next gathering. Other guys are fine with it, you should just suck it up and realize that you will be the minority in this discussion. Whatever our reason for wanting ladies' only, it's our reason and no amount of your babbling will make us change our minds - it just makes you look like more of an ass.
If you mean my chatting with XDamage then you couldn't be further off the track if you tried.
That is a thread jacked side convo [ its my thread I'll jack it if I want to :) ] that has nothing to do with whether you gals want to get together, with or without guys.
It was TOTALLY about US... notice Xdamages comment exactly to that effect...
So... things that make us go "hmmm" about ourselves.
We moved past talking about what you gals were up to some time ago.
xdamage
07-28-2008, 06:49 AM
BTW, I guess you know now that LadyJade already set up more then one get together on the NE coast. SW males were invited for part of it, but from what I gathered from the post-event stories, despite that they had a problem with someone not honoring the ladies only events. As you can guess, she has more reason then most anyone then to be gun-shy about it.
snoopy
07-28-2008, 09:01 AM
Does anyone here get offended if they're not invited to a cardiologist convention if they're not a cardiologist? Didn't think so...huh? you mean, you guys aren't all urologists?
you're all gynecologists? :O wtf?
where's the Crystal Ballroom? dammit, i'm at the wrong place again. i thought the slide-show presentation looked weird. hmph.
Golden_Rule
07-28-2008, 08:20 PM
BTW, I guess you know now that LadyJade already set up more then one get together on the NE coast. SW males were invited for part of it, but from what I gathered from the post-event stories, despite that they had a problem with someone not honoring the ladies only events. As you can guess, she has more reason then most anyone then to be gun-shy about it.
Yeah, I heard. One guy is a potential ass [since I only know one side of it we'll leave it at that] so the rest of us get the :-X treatment.
If you want to make plans for women only you don't do it out in the open so the male members can see you do it, and in a thread started by a guy. I'm sorry, I won't pretend to understand it. It's philogynist, a tad anti-social and just plain rude.
It is also a little juvenile - we are all members but you can't come in. Na Nanny Nah Nah. :) 100 years women have been fighting segregation in the form of "men only" and when they get what they are looking for what do they do... copy the same arrogant, elitist, segregationist practices men did. {go figure} You'd think they'd know how it feels having dealt with it themselves.
Drama However, as the majority of us joined STRIPPERweb so we could commiserate with fellow STRIPPERS and industry folk...
Golden_Rule = industry folk.
I was a bouncer prior to a long stint in other work. Now that I don't do that work any more I am the floor manager and head bouncer for private affairs with an average of 250 clients and 60 dancers at a pop.
It isn't a big deal but to be candid, and I don't know why, I expected better.
snoopy
07-28-2008, 08:52 PM
the girls want to hang with the girls.
lj et al. were pretty clear that they don't want to hang out with men at their regional get-together...whatsoever. even SO's are being excluded, why should you be allowed to go or for that matter even want to go then? /:O
is that "on topic"? no. but i didn't realize it has to be so rigid in our social interaction here. i've never known threads/topics to stay "on topic" (or forced to stay on topic), except for the most militant and thus boring (imo) forums.
the thread's about tri-state people. it then happened to gravitate towards a women-only sub-topic.
well, i'm not exactly surprised or butt-hurt about that since it is stripperweb, not "stripping industry forum" or "meet-a-stripper forum".
you want to do a guys' get-together for the tri-state, then post it in blue.
don't get me wrong, i could give a hoot either way (lj knows that). but being peripherally in the industry doesn't mean you're a dancer/stripper, i.e. really in the industry. frankly, a customer is actually in the industry if you want to define "industry" in the traditional sense. but obviously customers and such would not be welcome (especially) in this situation.
imho, you should just take the hint.
especially when it's applied with a lj sledgehammer. :P
Sophia_Starina
07-28-2008, 09:11 PM
I like meeting the SW/SCJ boys. :)
saphire123456
07-28-2008, 09:43 PM
I like meeting the SW/SCJ boys. :)
....in the CR once they paid me...;)
Katherine
07-28-2008, 09:53 PM
New York, New York!! :)
Golden_Rule
07-29-2008, 05:03 PM
the girls want to hang with the girls.
lj et al. were pretty clear that they don't want to hang out with men at their regional get-together...whatsoever. even SO's are being excluded, why should you be allowed to go or for that matter even want to go then? /:O
No one is questioning their having a ladies only G2G. What is being questioned is equity and general decorum.
The equity question goes to language. Be specific. If industry PEOPLE are invited, well people are both male and female. If its female only don't use the term "people".
As to decorum, what is there not to understand? Why do some folks here simply don't get it?
Let me spell it out: Look, you have male members on SW. For better or worse that is the way it is. If you want to have G2Gs that excludes some of the members of the same community you don't plan it out in front of them, and especially not co-opting a thread started by one of the very people you plan on excluding.
ITS TACKY, IMPOLITE, AND IN HORRIBLY BAD FORM!
Wasn't anyone around here raised with any manners? :O
As for an invite: This, at least to me, long ago left the area of whether or not I am interesting in attending such a G2G. Like anyone else I'd rather not be where I am not wanted.
What I am talking about is how people with any grace, respect for fellow members of the same community, and manners treat each other.
snoopy
07-29-2008, 05:15 PM
As for an invite: This, at least to me, long go left the area of whether or not I am interesting in attending such a G2G. Like anyone else I'd rather not be where I am not wanted.but that's pretty much the general situation for men here anyways. i mean, there's always been a tenuous excuse for guys to even be on this site...well, at least according to many of the female members here.
...but i think they sometimes forget that even pryce isn't a girl though. :P
me? i'm just here for the very interesting conversations. :O
What I am talking about is how people with any grace, respect for fellow members of the same community, and manners treat each other.c'mon, it's the internetz! you want real manners and courtesy? heck, we don't even spell right half the time. manners? c'mon. ::)
"pinky up, spongebob!" ;D
xdamage
07-29-2008, 05:44 PM
but that's pretty much the general situation for men here anyways. i mean, there's always been a tenuous excuse for guys to even be on this site...well, at least according to many of the female members here.
...but i think they sometimes forget that even pryce isn't a girl though. :P
;D
or TOO...
but the site is clearly not sure that it is a dancers only. Two particular points of interest:
1.) Gallery (come see stripper pics)
2.) Customer Conversations ("Come ask us questions!")
and arguably, Strip Club Junkie is a draw for customers too...
Thus the customers come to the site. Duh.
The site policy has always seemed to me to be an organic one, not clearly dancer only, but more along the lines of dancer oriented, dancer focused, they have a lot of say in terms of moderation in most forums, but are not owners... customers are allowed, freedom allowed on SCJ, far less so on SW (but then arguably dancers have limited freedoms on SW too as they have noted various threads being closed down when dancer discussions get too heated).
In summary, yep, the intent is this a dancer site first, customer site second, so... no big deal. Customers comply or are booted. But given the bazillions of groups that have forums and a focus on the internet, no big deal. This is just one of many.
And besides, let's not pretend. HOT LADIES draws us guys. We can slice and dice reality ten billion ways, and the fact is, this is kind of an important factor to what makes us guys tick.
Golden_Rule
07-29-2008, 06:29 PM
And besides, let's not pretend. HOT LADIES draws us guys. We can slice and dice reality ten billion ways, and the fact is, this is kind of an important factor to what makes us guys tick.
I like PYTs as much as the next guy but they are just folks to me.
When in situations where it is their attractiveness that is of primary concern, like in a strip-club, its still just folks but I treat the attractive factor the same way I treat anything intoxicating. In other words, its OK in moderation but don't ever let it cloud your judgement.
xdamage
07-29-2008, 06:37 PM
I like PYTs as much as the next guy but they are just folks to me.
When in situations where it is their attractiveness that is of primary concern, like in a strip-club, its still just folks but I treat the attractive factor the same way I treat anything intoxicating. In other words, its OK in moderation but don't ever let it cloud your judgement.
/threadjack on
I like to stroke my ego and tell myself that it does not cloud my judgment or prejudice my choices, but I try to be honest with myself too. I think the reality is I'm less influenced them some, but it is still a factor. No big deal. It is how I am wired, and accept it much the same way I accept my attraction to food, music, and many other pleasures in life that draw my attention.
Still, I have to admit, if it wasn't for the PYTs on this site, hmmm... would I stay?
At times yes, the convo is sufficiently interesting, covering many topics, and the female perspective is also welcome (pretty or not).
At other times the site goes into a state of us vs them, and I admit, it is a reminder that our welcome on this site (as men and customers) is a tenacious one at best. I guess I do believe in the notion of not hanging around where I am not wanted concept. Better things to do and ways to spend my time and all of that.
/threadjack off
Golden_Rule
07-29-2008, 08:56 PM
/threadjack on
I like to stroke my ego and tell myself that it does not cloud my judgment or prejudice my choices, but I try to be honest with myself too. I think the reality is I'm less influenced them some, but it is still a factor. No big deal. It is how I am wired, and accept it much the same way I accept my attraction to food, music, and many other pleasures in life that draw my attention.
Well I hope I am not kidding myself. I do try to take a 3rd party perspective on things. That helps. I think.
Still, I have to admit, if it wasn't for the PYTs on this site, hmmm... would I stay?
What interests me about this site is what interests me about most web sites. The interaction. Human dynamics is fascinating. I honestly think it is what brought be into police work. Its like the best possible lab class you could take on the subject.
At times yes, the convo is sufficiently interesting, covering many topics, and the female perspective is also welcome (pretty or not).
I agree. If there weren't people interesting enough to converse with I wouldn't stay.
At other times the site goes into a state of us vs them, and I admit, it is a reminder that our welcome on this site (as men and customers) is a tenacious one at best. I guess I do believe in the notion of not hanging around where I am not wanted concept. Better things to do and ways to spend my time and all of that.
When it gets to be too much I go away for awhile.
I've been gone from as little as a week to as much as a year.
wishing well...