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Joplin
07-25-2008, 10:47 AM
I think she means to lie and say "well if we do this it's better anyways because I won't have to leave you for stage in a few songs" even though your not going up on stage. It just makes them feel more special or like they're getting more out of it.

NewMoon
08-23-2008, 05:18 PM
I tried this for the first time today with a guy I thought was appropriate. He was the talky/cuddly type and I smelled money. I asked the following:

"The dances are $20 per song and they are about 3 minutes. If you would like to stay awhile, we can do $140 for 1/2 hour or $240 for an hour. Which best suits you?"

He replied: "Per song is good"........

.......and then proceeded to get 12 songs which came to $240 :shrug: (Not that I'm complaining but it's weird).

I guess it's because the guys are not used to it?

I think this would work well on guys who are regulars or repeats but I don't know yet if it would work on first-time guys. It could be akward to commit to a block of time without having had a dance yet from the girl.

Girls who work in clubs with CR rooms: [b]How often does a guy go straight to VIP/Champagne room and how often does he have a lapdance (or previous experience with you) before commiting?

NewMoon
08-24-2008, 04:23 AM
^^^Have you tried it with guys who see you again at the club? Like they got 7+ songs last time and they see you again and you end up in the dance room?

txchick008
08-31-2008, 05:35 PM
Thanks for starting this thread, molly. My club is just like holiday's and Joplin's club. We have a beautiful upstairs VIP area, but we only make money by selling $20 dances, so I usually just keep my ass downstairs and sell the HELL out of dances. Guys are constantly asking me, "So what is upstairs all about?" The next time a guy asks me this, I'm going to tell him if he wants to spend an hour in private with me up there it will be $300 an hour... especially if it's an out-of-towner (most of the locals here are pretty cheap and wouldn't go for it). The thing is, to get up there, they have to buy a bottle of (at least) $75 champagne. I'm wondering how I'm gonna set that up, or if I should include that with the $300? GGGrrrrrr... I wish we had a standard VIP hustle at my club, too! :(

That is the exact same deal at my club. It's hard to "upsell" and get someone into our VIP area, because unless they purchase a $150-200 bottle, or have a yearly club membership, they can't go up there.

In order for a non-member to get into VIP, they have to buy that $150-200 bottle. So, they are already dropping money on THAT. Then, it would be hard to tag on ANOTHER $150-300 for 30-60 minutes with me. That would be over $500 in most cases. Yikes! I need more ideas on working around that....I really want to get them buying a bottle (that also keeps me off stage rotation). Maybe I would just need to charge less per 1/2 hour?

NewMoon
08-31-2008, 05:38 PM
^^^hmmm... that is $150-200 I'd rather they spend on me.

holiday
08-31-2008, 06:40 PM
In order for a non-member to get into VIP, they have to buy that $150-200 bottle. So, they are already dropping money on THAT. Then, it would be hard to tag on ANOTHER $150-300 for 30-60 minutes with me. That would be over $500 in most cases. Yikes! I need more ideas on working around that....I really want to get them buying a bottle (that also keeps me off stage rotation). Maybe I would just need to charge less per 1/2 hour?

Txchick, you shouldn't think that way about the money!!! $500 for an hour is not outrageous for an hour VIP. It sucks that you'd only get $300 of it, but still, if you get the right guy, they shouldn't balk at it. I really believe you could sell that VIP section. You are smart, and I saw your pics in the with/without makeup thread - you're adorable. I think you should start pushing it and I bet you'll sell one in the coming month.

dangerousdiva
08-31-2008, 06:48 PM
Holiday is right on the money. The hour VIP's at my club are $400/bottle and $400 for the dancer. That's a MINIMUM of $800/hour and they sell out a lot so there's a wait to even get in the room.

You have to stop thinking that it's a lot of money for customers to drop. Start projecting that you're worth it and worth more ;)