View Full Version : The Crotch Grab (does it work?)
Jenny
08-09-2008, 07:02 AM
For real? If a hot girl in a g-string grabs your crotch, you don't like it? I call Pink Side PC Bull.
Really? Because no matter how good looking a guy is, or how much I might be attracted to him, I would be pissed if he walked up and grabbed my crotch. I have no difficulty believing that there are some men who feel the same way.
Jay Zeno
08-09-2008, 07:07 AM
For real? If a hot girl in a g-string grabs your crotch, you don't like it? I call Pink Side PC Bull.
*shrug* You can do that.
Paris has the right idea.
Oh, what the hell, later edit: I mentioned, in a Blue trip report quite a while back (August 19, 2004), a dancer in LA who did this with zero result. So if it's Bull, it's SW Bull, not just Pink Side.
Madcap
08-09-2008, 07:15 AM
For real? If a hot girl in a g-string grabs your crotch, you don't like it? I call Pink Side PC Bull.
If she's gonna grab my crotch, she needs to do it after she can tell me my name.
I'm sorry all I can think of is how pissed I'd be if I grabbed a guy's crotch and then he refused a dance.
Right!? Think of how many crotches these chicks grab during the whole night, and the guys that say no. That could be a whole LOTTA cock! :D
Mr Hyde
08-09-2008, 10:12 AM
Really? Because no matter how good looking a guy is, or how much I might be attracted to him, I would be pissed if he walked up and grabbed my crotch. I have no difficulty believing that there are some men who feel the same way.
Testostetone does crazy things to a person.
I bet if you took an anonymous blue side poll on this topic, you'd get real results that would back me up.
GSWRD
08-09-2008, 10:19 AM
For real? If a hot girl in a g-string grabs your crotch, you don't like it? I call Pink Side PC Bull.lol, no matter how hot she is, if a dancer was to totally ambush me with a crotch grab..... I would not like it.
Jenny
08-09-2008, 12:41 PM
Right!? Think of how many crotches these chicks grab during the whole night, and the guys that say no. That could be a whole LOTTA cock! :D
I get fucking seriously pissed if a guy puts an arm around me or a hand on me knee and then says no. (Last thursday when a guy did this, I removed it saying "I prefer if you don't touch me until we have a contractual agreement." In case you're wondering - that approach didn't work.) I think my head might explode if I tried this.
Jenny
08-09-2008, 12:43 PM
Testostetone does crazy things to a person.
I bet if you took an anonymous blue side poll on this topic, you'd get real results that would back me up.
I would suggest here that because a bunch of other people don't mind being sexually touched without permission (much different from having permission) doesn't mean that the one of two customers that do mind should be subject to it. I mean, if I presented you with a poll saying that most stripclub patrons don't mind being sodomized with a cactus without being asked, you would probably still think that I needed your specific permission first.
Jay Zeno
08-09-2008, 02:40 PM
Testostetone does crazy things to a person.
I bet if you took an anonymous blue side poll on this topic, you'd get real results that would back me up.
Well, backing you up means that I personally am bullshitting everyone for the sake of being politically correct on Pink (i.e., I'm lying about that in order to sound good to the girls). If a poll backs you up on that, that is one impressive and incisive poll.
I mean, believe what you will. I encourage people to suspend belief here, so I certainly can't expect anyone to automatically believe me. The crotch grab instead of a handshake doesn't impress me. Like Madcap. Believe it or not. Another *shrug*.
I get fucking seriously pissed if a guy puts an arm around me or a hand on me knee and then says no. (Last thursday when a guy did this, I removed it saying "I prefer if you don't touch me until we have a contractual agreement." In case you're wondering - that approach didn't work.) I think my head might explode if I tried this.
Agreed and AGREED.
Yekhefah
08-11-2008, 09:31 AM
Count K among the guys who doesn't like the crotch-grab approach. He likes slutty strippers as much as any straight guy, but there's something crass and off-putting about the crotch-grab and he considers it a turnoff. So yeah, not all guys like the crotch grab.
youngBUTbanking
08-11-2008, 12:56 PM
No, it doesnt work for me.
xdamage
08-11-2008, 07:00 PM
My customers have also turned a lot of girls down after they've had it done to them (they tell me about it). So as a hustle, I don't think it's all that great of a technique.
It might depend on the demographics of the club patrons too.
Plus this is one of those things that maybe works as long as it is a novelty. But if too many dancers are doing it too often in a club, it could rapidly turn into an annoying version of "Wanna Dance?"
GeorgeBailey
08-11-2008, 07:20 PM
It can be a very effective hustle technique if employed properly. Just walking up to a guy and making a grab for his privates, is going to be startling and the instinct to protect the family jewels will kick in.
Now, if the girl had been engaging in other forms of socially acceptable touching (hand holding, caressing his knee etc.) while chatting up the customer, and then leaned in to "close the deal" while very gently grazing her hand along his crotch, this will get the customer back to VIP (or at least the ATM) the majority of the time.;)
Paris, you know me so well. Would you consider coming out of retirement?
Golden_Rule
08-13-2008, 12:26 AM
It can be a very effective hustle technique if employed properly. Just walking up to a guy and making a grab for his privates, is going to be startling and the instinct to protect the family jewels will kick in.
Now, if the girl had been engaging in other forms of socially acceptable touching (hand holding, caressing his knee etc.) while chatting up the customer, and then leaned in to "close the deal" while very gently grazing her hand along his crotch, this will get the customer back to VIP (or at least the ATM) the majority of the time.;)
That is something like I defined to JZ earlier, where I indicated it could close the deal for me.
What I had described to Jay: Woman I know, had chemistry with previously, comes in close and whispers something appropriate into my ear while discretely shaking hands with G_R jr.
gameover
08-13-2008, 04:05 PM
I get fucking seriously pissed if a guy puts an arm around me or a hand on me knee and then says no. (Last thursday when a guy did this, I removed it saying "I prefer if you don't touch me until we have a contractual agreement." In case you're wondering - that approach didn't work.) I think my head might explode if I tried this.
somehow i've got this visual image of you wearing army fatigues.
UtahMike
08-13-2008, 06:23 PM
somehow i've got this visual image of you wearing army fatigues.
I visualize Jenny in a pin-striped suit, carrying a briefcase, wearing attractive yet intimidating glasses, black pumps, and being the lawyer who destroys the testimony of the hypocritical main witness.
threlayer
08-14-2008, 01:40 PM
While the subtle approach such as Paris described can often work for many (and for me), a less overt, more intimate approach can work just as well too.
Example: a gal at a club I used to frequent after a couple of VIP sessions and after she could gauge my demeanor, would come up to me with a big genuine smile and give me a big warm hug like she hadn't seen me for months. Well for me this alone is a trigger and she needn't do anything below the belt to get my interest up. First time it happened I thought the manager was going to come over and ask if we had ben having sex or something accusatory on her part. But she did this with some of her other regulars, so after that I was able to confidently enjoy it before we headed the VIP room. This approach worked so well that I even thought of making her a formal offer.
Pretty_Penny
08-16-2008, 07:40 PM
nevermind
Casual Observer
08-16-2008, 07:55 PM
For real? If a hot girl in a g-string grabs your crotch, you don't like it? I call Pink Side PC Bull.
Not bull. Surprise cock grabbing is presumptuous and off-putting.
If it's incorporated into a broader hustle methodology, I can see where that would be effective, as one would expect in any lapdance environment where stick-shifting is common.
SassyPants
08-17-2008, 10:50 AM
i don't know about you girls, but when a guy grabs his OWN crotch and says "Hey baby you wanna dance?" ...
I get really excited. So excited.::)
sadbuttrue
08-17-2008, 07:17 PM
Where I'm from this is basically par for the course...called the "stripper handshake".
Yeah some clubs are like that and if you try to walk away they ask for a dollar(!) It might work with me if it happened to be a girl I was interested in, but usually it isn't.
Oh titty twisters definitely don't win points. The girl that did that to me did it hard, too. Geez!
>>>Sad<<<
UtahMike
08-18-2008, 08:39 PM
Hmmm, I was just thinking. I think the reverse (male to female) behavior would not be the crotch grab, but the ass grab. As in, during a hug, the hand slides down and squeezes a butt cheek.
Ladies, has any custy done such to you, and how did you react?
gingerlee
08-18-2008, 09:53 PM
^^^I've had a guy do that to me & I slapped the shit out of him.
MojoJojo
08-18-2008, 10:05 PM
Sometimes I grab my own crotch, but I rarely answer myself, which is quite frustrating.
SassyPants
08-19-2008, 12:18 AM
Sometimes I grab my own crotch, but I rarely answer myself, which is quite frustrating.
i just spit my beer out all over.
money
08-20-2008, 05:50 AM
I have had lots of dancers, not necessarily grabbing the crotch, but their hand "accidentally" hitting it, or their purse somehow hits down there. It really is a subtle attempt to get a guy interested. And this is from clean dancers too!!! It is just to get you to do dances. Doesn't work with me, but I know alot of guys that it does work with.
Jenny
08-20-2008, 06:00 AM
I have had lots of dancers, not necessarily grabbing the crotch, but their hand "accidentally" hitting it, or their purse somehow hits down there. It really is a subtle attempt to get a guy interested. And this is from clean dancers too!!! It is just to get you to do dances. Doesn't work with me, but I know alot of guys that it does work with.
The hand I get - but I couldn't imagine trying to get a guy hot by hitting him in the penis with my purse.
Of course, my purse is shaped like a stuffed animal. So now I imagine my purse snuffling down the guy's body, and around his crotch while I say in a little girl voice: "Want to come to the VIP? Mr. Bear-Purse knows what you like."
UtahMike
08-20-2008, 09:34 AM
Of course, my purse is shaped like a stuffed animal. So now I imagine my purse snuffling down the guy's body, and around his crotch while I say in a little girl voice: "Want to come to the VIP? Mr. Bear-Purse knows what you like."
That is decidedly creepy.
MojoJojo
08-20-2008, 08:33 PM
My crotch grabbed me once....wow was THAT awkward!
lestat1
08-20-2008, 09:20 PM
Of course, my purse is shaped like a stuffed animal. So now I imagine my purse snuffling down the guy's body, and around his crotch while I say in a little girl voice: "Want to come to the VIP? Mr. Bear-Purse knows what you like."
LMAO! :D
See that would have me laughing so hard I probably would buy dances.
grindonme
08-20-2008, 10:51 PM
Crotch grab is really the wrong word for this thing, its more like a gentle crotch squeeze where the dancer first places the palm of her hand on your crotch and then gives it a slight squeeze.
Jeska
08-22-2008, 02:07 AM
This guy loves it (I hate it though)
http://www.striplv.com/newsphotos/main.php?g2_itemId=7455
Jenny
08-22-2008, 05:54 AM
LMAO! :D
See that would have me laughing so hard I probably would buy dances.
Officially tried it. Hilarity ensued.
3-Legged Man
08-22-2008, 01:02 PM
Hilarity ensued? Someone found it FUNNY??? :O
Jenny
08-22-2008, 01:14 PM
Hilarity ensued? Someone found it FUNNY??? :O
Well - I really couldn't get through that one without laughing. And then I had to try to explain "message board idea that I suddenly have to try in real life to report back on" and I think he thinks that I'm in a cult.
Djoser
08-22-2008, 03:08 PM
I have had this happen to me countless times as a DJ, mostly in Daytona. Only they aren't trying to sell me a dance.
The 'package check'. Usually turning into a double check. I have never yet tried to stop anyone doing it, partly because it has never seemed like a sexual thing to me, and partly because the more they think I am appealing, for whatever reason, the more money they give me--this has been proven time and time again. But male DJs doing the same thing to dancers is so doggish and despicable, in my mind.
It's been happening in the new club even though it's way cleaner here than Daytona, and sometimes the double check is pretty thorough.
I have been considering trying to discourage it, some people could get the wrong idea if they hear about it, whether I did nothing to instigate it or not. It's a pretty laidback club, but I do not want to be viewed as a dog DJ.
And it has always struck me as being so odd, that I think nothing of this sort of thing, but instantly want to smack the face of male staff who pull the same thing on women. And when male staff pulled it on serious girlfriends a few times in the past, I wanted to beat shit out of them. Only once did it happen to me when I had a SO, and she didn't care at all, though I knew it was wrong to allow it in that case, if I thought she should stop guys from doing it to her.
It also seems like it would be sort of pathetic for me to try to stop this sort of thing, which is strange and opens up yet more interesting questions about sexual roles.
Jay Zeno
08-22-2008, 03:11 PM
The 'package check'. Usually turning into a double check. I have never yet tried to stop anyone doing it, partly because it has never seemed like a sexual thing to me...That one eludes me. I'm trying to think of someone's hand on my genitals, outside of a medical situation, being anything but sexual in nature.
Try it the other way and do a "package check" on them. I think it would be seen as sexual.
Djoser
08-22-2008, 03:18 PM
It seems hard to believe, but I have never really considered it to be a sexual thing at all, except maybe once a long time ago. Quite often the women who do it aren't sexually appealing, and it's all part of the meaningless sexual banter that goes on amongst employees. Plus it's happened so many times, after a while you kind of dismiss it. Though the 'double check' thing is often a bit more serious, it still doesn't seem like a sexual thing at all to me.
But hell yes, the other way around very much so--I would never do that!
3-Legged Man
08-23-2008, 07:51 AM
Djoser, I hope there are no dancers from your club reading this thread or else you'll have a lot of explaining to do..... "Quite often the women who do it aren't sexually appealing" ..... I'll bet THEY don't think so!
Djoser
08-23-2008, 09:08 AM
Well of course, I was referring to the ones in Daytona, where it happened far more often, lol...
Of course, my purse is shaped like a stuffed animal. So now I imagine my purse snuffling down the guy's body, and around his crotch while I say in a little girl voice: "Want to come to the VIP? Mr. Bear-Purse knows what you like."
It wasn't a good idea to read this while drinking a beer. Unfortunately I just did and spewed beer all over my monitor and the papers laying beneath it. Ha!
I am playing with Bear-Purse in my head. :)
FBR
ARCOR
08-24-2008, 05:16 PM
It has happened to me a couple of times. For me, the act itself doesn't guarantee getting dances it just depends on the girl.
Golden_Rule
08-25-2008, 03:20 AM
The hand I get - but I couldn't imagine trying to get a guy hot by hitting him in the penis with my purse.
Of course, my purse is shaped like a stuffed animal. So now I imagine my purse snuffling down the guy's body, and around his crotch while I say in a little girl voice: "Want to come to the VIP? Mr. Bear-Purse knows what you like."
Going after the "furry" contingent? :D
[for those not up on their kink, "furries" are folks who like to get it on in fuzzy costumes, usually in the form of teddy bears, rabbits, and stuff like that there.]
MiniMoe
08-26-2008, 03:20 PM
not only does it work, but it usually a signal that serious fun will be had by all involved.
SassyPants
08-26-2008, 07:19 PM
not only does it work, but it usually a signal that serious fun will be had by all involved.
great first impression, dude.8)
Dottie Rebel
08-26-2008, 07:31 PM
Yeah, there is this NASTY, fat red-headed chick who can't dance for shit but yet always seems to bank. Shit was sitting at my stage with a custy last night and as I approached them I noticed that she was running her fingers over his cock through his pants. As soon as I got close enough to look over and see she jerked her hand back. So she obviously knows it's not cool. At least I know how that skank makes her money now.
major_wood
09-11-2008, 03:47 PM
Depends on the guy, obviously, but I agree with MiniMoe - WORKS. Gets my attention and she'll probably be taking a fair amount of my money.
threlayer
09-12-2008, 08:22 AM
I guess I've been missing out, but, except for once, it has never happened to me outside of the VIP room. And that time it was a 'hostess' not a dancer. Other than that act, she didn't seem to want to go much further in the VIP room. It was cool.
The Boob
09-18-2008, 06:49 PM
A couple times I drove to a neighboring city just so I could be grabbed by the junk. I wish I'd read this first and found out here that it was offensive to men. Then I could have saved all that gas money.
Devil's Advocate:
Really, isn't the penis the real client at a stripclub? The Lap is the lapdance recipient, after all. Why should the dancer always talk only to the customer and never address herself to the penis? The penis is in closer proximity to the wallet than the customer is. It seems almost like bad business to neglect the penis when a kind hello makes such a great first impression. I mean, we all know what the P. in V.I.P. stands for, right?
(I get how it has no place in many stripclubs and it's not for everyone.)
Sometimes you'll be sitting playing video poker or watching the sports bigscreen, bored off your ass, and someone you'd never suspect will come and grab you by the junk. One time it was the favorite dancer of a whale-like acquaintance of mine. She was popping her lollypop loudly in and out of her mouth and just kept making smiley conversation as she lightly worked the dumbstick. True, I may have downgraded her "classy rating" as a result of this, but I also suddenly felt a comradery with her, like she understood me better than the other dancers, and I felt as if it was time to tell her all my secrets or at least find some way to prolong the conversation. Then in my brain I'm like "Well this might solve the mystery of why dude picked her to spend on." But then later in the VIP she's using her butt on me pretty normally and her other body parts are behaving like a normal stripper during her lapdances, so crotch grabbing really is not an indicator of other things necessarily.
And I'd go so far as to say anyone with much stripclub experience would instantly suspect that a crotch grab is just another fishing lure which has no bearing on what will happen in VIP. You take your chances same as always. Just please use only open-fist kung fu on my crotch, thank you. No knuckles!
And remember there's that rare idiot who will have to be tossed out after becoming irate over the no-extras "betrayal." Oh well.
Now, when a disheveled looking dancer walks through and calls out to no one in particular "I'm horny and I wanna F___ !" this can fairly be interpreted as the calling card of an extras girl. Her you might want to fumigate. But I believe a mere handshake between two interested parties is a different matter, and to that I say "Well met, bountiful stranger!"