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Miss_Luscious
07-31-2008, 04:30 PM
Are Pryce and..ummm...that other person whose name I can't recall the only one handling them or are the mods involved too?
Perry
07-31-2008, 04:40 PM
Where is Pryce, anyway? He said that club reviews would be back up, a fundraiser for the site was comming, there would be an option to donate to the site again, and several things would be changed or tweaked. That was back when we had the survey. In the thread where Bridgette left I think he said something along the lines of in 2 weeks a couple things would be different.
I'm not complaining, but I am hoping he's okay.
Miss_Luscious
07-31-2008, 04:52 PM
Yeah, he says a lot of things. Has been saying a lot of things for a couple of years. But atleast we got that new system for site issues which works like a charm! Right? Oh wait...
Sophia_Ashley
07-31-2008, 05:14 PM
The reviews being down for what...over a year now? Yeah...that's like the dumbest thing ever. There is no valid reasoning for that.
TheSexKitten
07-31-2008, 05:16 PM
It's pretty retarded that Site Issues is private. IMO...
Sophia_Ashley
07-31-2008, 05:21 PM
^ I second this. I don't get the point of that...unless it's so we are all kept in the dark
Miss_Luscious
07-31-2008, 05:40 PM
Apparently Site Issues is better now. Although I don't see how or why. And Clubs and Reviews? Well let's just go ahead and forget about that. Just sit and wait another couple of years for Pryce to decide it's a priority. It's apparently about money but when money is offered...well there is no way to give it. It seems like an easy fix (PO Box, Paypal, etc) but there are some kind of special circumstances that make these methods impossible so...we wait.
LilyLove
07-31-2008, 05:59 PM
Its stupid that site issues is private now because before when you had a problem, you could post in there and pretty much immediately have an answer from another member. I get that some stuff needs to be more private and could be e-mailed to Pryce or Tashia. But stuff like "how do I multiquote" or whatever?
wasfatboy
07-31-2008, 06:08 PM
is it me or does anyone else see the obvious?
this is the internet
this is a free site
if its so bad and awful make your own site?
make your own site and moderate it how you want.
make it a pay to join site if you want
i dont see anyone doing that....
the point im trying to make is this site cant be that bad because nobody is doing this!
and just like anythng else on the net, you have a CHOICE if you want to participate or not on it.
i dont understand why people have to attack others in there same field. you should be using this site for commeraderie >sp< , to get advise, to warn of pit falls or bad clubs. to help each other out. but it sounds like its becoming a "dick swinging" contest (sorry im male and its the only way i can describe this)
ill probably get banned for this, but come on girls your all are after the same outcome - being able to talk to others in the same or simular situations.
dont turn this site into an estrogen war zone.
i will now step back under my rock........
Miss_Luscious
07-31-2008, 06:25 PM
is it me or does anyone else see the obvious?
this is the internet
this is a free site
if its so bad and awful make your own site?
make your own site and moderate it how you want.
make it a pay to join site if you want
i dont see anyone doing that....
the point im trying to make is this site cant be that bad because nobody is doing this!
and just like anythng else on the net, you have a CHOICE if you want to participate or not on it.
While i respect your opinion, you have to understand that we do have a community here. it is famililar and it has enough people in it that we can get all types of advice and information. i don't think anyone is saying the site is no good and should be shut down. We are sayng that there are problems that need to be adressed so that everyone can enjoy the site fully. As members of the site we should be able to voice when we are not happy with things in the community and our concerns should be adressed. Pryce doesn't have to do a damn thing if he doesn't want to but since he created a site for others (since I'm assuming Pryce has never been a stripper) it would be in the best interest of the site if he kept the people he created it for happy, right?
hardkandee
07-31-2008, 07:24 PM
The reviews being down for what...over a year now? Yeah...that's like the dumbest thing ever. There is no valid reasoning for that.
It's got to be longer than a year now. I'm too lazy to actually dig up the real date, but it's been down a looooooooooong time. And the Club Chat section does not work well enough to make up for it. :(
fancygirl
07-31-2008, 07:27 PM
I remember it being supposedly back up, but then it wasn't. here's an old post from 2005.
it definitely wasn't working as of March 2006 and I don't think it ever worked after that, so it's
been two years or longer.
UltraViolet
07-31-2008, 07:27 PM
I still don't get why "fixing" site issues took precedence over what was asked for. It wasn't even broken! Why do a members survey when Pryce makes it clear that he doesn't care what the members really want, but what he wants and just make it seem like he's putting things into action.
Lady Jade
07-31-2008, 07:28 PM
It's got to be longer than a year now. I'm too lazy to actually dig up the real date, but it's been down a looooooooooong time. And the Club Chat section does not work well enough to make up for it. :(
It can't be that much over a year, C&R was still at least accessible when I first joined last January. But yea, even this long is too long.
The ignore function is a great way to circumvent reading the same mean stuff from the same people, at least we have that. The other stuff that's wrong with the site, though, really deserves more attention from Pryce than it appears to be getting.
Perry
07-31-2008, 07:29 PM
I think site issues was made private because of the drama. No one posted there unless it was a, "Please delete me!" thread. So, what happens since we can no longer poke one last shot at the dearly departed by saying, "Good ridance!" "See you under another handle soon!" or whatever. Well, now they just say farewell in the lounge or member boards.
Miss_Luscious
07-31-2008, 07:31 PM
...just make it seem like he's putting things into action.
Therein lies the answer. We don't know why but Site Issues was a bigger deal than C&R even though I don't remember one complaint about Site Issues ever.
UltraViolet
07-31-2008, 07:32 PM
Yeah, well I think if we took a big source of aggravation and fixed it (C&R) people might become a little less hostile.
Yep ML: seems like things that were on Pryce's priority were addressed, not so much what the member base really wanted.
All Good Things
07-31-2008, 07:52 PM
I still don't get why "fixing" site issues took precedence over what was asked for. It wasn't even broken! Why do a members survey when Pryce makes it clear that he doesn't care what the members really want, but what he wants and just make it seem like he's putting things into action.
It's quite clear that Pryce cares a great deal about what members want. It's why the way forward that he outlines in his survey interpretation responds specifically to those requests and priorities. He really is committed to making the changes requested in the member survey.
Site issues was very easily converted -- it was one of those low-lying fruit things.
There are so many things to do that it takes an enormous amount of time to prioritize, organize and implement them. The best analogy I can think of is babysitting a dozen hyperactive 5-year-olds (the 5-year-olds are the various changes to be implemented). Everybody demands immediate attention and you find yourself running around wiping everybody's nose and just trying to hold everything together. Also, the man is a perfectionist. He doesn't do anything until he's got it just right.
That being said, there is no question changes are coming -- changes for the good. How Pryce chooses to prioritize them is based on his own priorities and plans for the site and how to most logically implement them so everything gets done, and done in the right order.
Oh, and he is fine, by the way.
As I've noted elsewhere in this thread, the best way to contact him with advice/concerns is through Tashiya, with username "Stripperweb."
I realize that this is an old refrain, but patience is a virtue and the members of this site are going to be very pleased with the rewards bestowed by that patience.
UltraViolet
07-31-2008, 07:58 PM
Yes, it was converted, but there seems to be more hassle/problems associated with Site Issues where they weren't before.
Perry
07-31-2008, 07:59 PM
I am glad he is doing well. He's a very talented man to create this site. It just seems that lately he may have lost some intrest in it.
UltraViolet
07-31-2008, 08:04 PM
In my perspective, if he didn't promise so vehemently that so many great things were coming and get my hopes up, I'd be OK. I could live with a few broken things and go on with my SW experience. Maybe have something fixed without notice and being pleasantly surprised. My problem though is that there were all these promises, a big member survey, all promised soon. That dreaded SW word "SOON". We all know what that means and it tends to piss people off. Don't lie to us FFS, be honest and say "I really don't plan to fix these things right now, I have no time, sorry". In that case at least he'd be being honest.
Miss_Luscious
07-31-2008, 08:06 PM
Well TOO, since you sem to be in contact with Pryce more than anyone else, do we at least have a time frame? I mean we've been hearing "soon" for over two years. Seriously, this is getting out of hand. Is it still about money?
Sophia_Ashley
07-31-2008, 08:22 PM
Of course it's about money. Or so it's said. I think it's more about laziness personally. But hey what do I know.
UltraViolet
07-31-2008, 08:26 PM
Fuck even MY broke ass is willing to make a donation just so I can contribute and get the ball rolling.....
Sophia_Ashley
07-31-2008, 08:43 PM
Here's the thing. I don't for a second believe it's "money". I think that's just an excuse. How much money does it really cost to fix an existing code?
It's more apparent that the creator lost interest in this site, and I don't care to have smoke blown up my ass to try and make me feel differently. If you create something, and stand behind it...then you maintain it and take pride in it.
If there were no mods this site would have exploded by now.
AudreyLeigh
07-31-2008, 09:00 PM
It's more apparent that the creator lost interest in this site, and I don't care to have smoke blown up my ass to try and make me feel differently. If you create something, and stand behind it...then you maintain it and take pride in it.
Lets say Pryce has lost interest in it. Lets say hes tired of all the bitching and complaining about something he loved and now hes said f*** it.
Would you rather he just take down the whole site for good?
I wait for the day we all try to log on and the website is gone. Seriously. Could anyone here imagine that? I know we complain and bitch and whatever but what if it really was gone and never coming back?
Pryce doesnt have to keep this site going. He does it for us. If he didnt care it wouldnt be here. There are ways to get around the issues with C&R. I know because Ive done it in the past. Site Issues is private now - big deal. I mean really.
The bitching about this and that about this site needing to be better and fixed, etc really needs to stop. People should be thanking Pryce for not throwing in the towel and taking it down.
*sigh* When Pryce comes around he can read what you guys say. On a personal note, to me, there are far better things about SW than a bit of cattiness here and there. The better things still greatly outweigh the cattiness and so called cliques. So if it sounds dismissive its more of a big huge *sigh* that comes from me when this kind of thread comes up. I can't think that SW would be minus drama since we are mostly made up of women.
But don't you know??? The same people who complain about hating drama are the same people creating it! They LOOOOOOVEEEEEEE this thread.
Miss_Luscious
07-31-2008, 09:03 PM
Yep yep yep. We've all been saying we'll donate what ever is needded but so far we haven't gotten an estimate of what it'll cost. and I'm sure that in all the members of this site where is someone who knows enough to fix C&R for very little money or even for free. I agree with you Sophia, he's lost interest. But if that's the case then please hand the reins over to someone who has the time and willingness to run the damn site properly. Hell, I'm just sitting home pregnant so I could do it. I don't have shit else to do all day but get fat.
Are Pryce and..ummm...that other person whose name I can't recall the only one handling them or are the mods involved too?
Just Pryce and Tashia, I believe. I know the mods have nothing to do with the ticket system.
I think site issues was made private because of the drama. No one posted there unless it was a, "Please delete me!" thread. So, what happens since we can no longer poke one last shot at the dearly departed by saying, "Good ridance!" "See you under another handle soon!" or whatever. Well, now they just say farewell in the lounge or member boards.
Gotta love those!
"Hey delete me!" and two days later, you see them sign up with a different name.
Its ok if its a stalking issue, but dont act like you hate this site so much that you will never visit it again.
Sophia_Ashley
07-31-2008, 09:05 PM
I don't disagree with you. I'm just curious as to why it's not been fixed yet we are promised it is. It's not just a random section of this site. Or even the net for that matter. It's the only review board that I've noticed being out there that's actually informative.
We all know we can't get much of anything out of SCL.
This is honestly the best review board for clubs. It's a useful tool that personally if it was fixed and made a pay function. Like you'd have to pay to have a membership to the review boards, I think most of us would do so. Myself included.
For those of us that move to different cities, travel to earn money it's vital. While it's awesome we have a forum to complain, post cat pictures and swap vagina stories it would be amazing if we had back our one most useful tool.
And if it's not going to be fixed, all he has to do is just say so. Instead of claiming otherwise. I think all anyone wants is a straight answer rather than the run around.
xdamage
07-31-2008, 09:05 PM
AudreyLeigh, what you wrote... I am amazed they haven't already thrown in the towel. I can't help but wonder. If Pryce (and TOO) received even just some occasional heartfelt thanks for all that has been done so far, if they wouldn't feel more motivation to do more. Well, this is the way I work. My drive is definitely related to the amount (or lack of) positive reinforcement I am getting. I'm reasonable sure that is normal and human.
Miss_Luscious
07-31-2008, 09:09 PM
It's not like C&R has only been down for a few weeks or something. It's been YEARS and we just keep hearing "soon". How can we give heartfelt thanks for things not done? Thanks for creating a site and then leaving major problems unfixed for years at a time? Thanks for keeping us in the dark about stuff?
Lexi - Thanks for the info.
AudreyLeigh
07-31-2008, 09:22 PM
Seriously? If its such a problem (C&R, site issues, etc)then why are people still here? Go away and pretend SW never existed. There, problem fixed. ;)
AudreyLeigh
07-31-2008, 09:24 PM
AudreyLeigh, what you wrote... I am amazed they haven't already thrown in the towel. I can't help but wonder. If Pryce (and TOO) received even just some occasional heartfelt thanks for all that has been done so far, if they wouldn't feel more motivation to do more. Well, this is the way I work. My drive is definitely related to the amount (or lack of) positive reinforcement I am getting. I'm reasonable sure that is normal and human.
It seems once the site turned bitchy Pryce stopped caring. Understandable.
I was writing and wrote TOO in there (as a thanks) but then I re-wrote and must have erased him. You too TOO!!! I know you are part of the reason SW is still here and appreciate all youve done!
K- Ive said all I felt I needed to say. Steppin away from the flame wars now....
Miss_Luscious
07-31-2008, 09:30 PM
Yes whenever you have a problem please just go away. That solves stuff. It's unfair for people to ask for stuff to be fixed, we should all just count our lucky stars that this site still exists and shut the hell up about things that aren't right. That seems like the right approach. Please refer to my earlier post:
While i respect your opinion, you have to understand that we do have a community here. it is famililar and it has enough people in it that we can get all types of advice and information. i don't think anyone is saying the site is no good and should be shut down. We are sayng that there are problems that need to be adressed so that everyone can enjoy the site fully. As members of the site we should be able to voice when we are not happy with things in the community and our concerns should be adressed. Pryce doesn't have to do a damn thing if he doesn't want to but since he created a site for others (since I'm assuming Pryce has never been a stripper) it would be in the best interest of the site if he kept the people he created it for happy, right?
All Good Things
07-31-2008, 09:36 PM
Well TOO, since you sem to be in contact with Pryce more than anyone else, do we at least have a time frame? I mean we've been hearing "soon" for over two years. Seriously, this is getting out of hand. Is it still about money?
Well, I'd prefer that Pryce respond to your questions himself, but he's been extremely busy lately, so I'll try to give you a quick overview.
No, it's not about money. The site is fully funded for current and future operations. (NB to AudreyLeigh -- the site did regularly disappear for days at a time about three years ago. Completely vanished. Nobody knew if it was coming back. It was about money then. It's not about money now and to the extent we are talking about the site in its current incarnation, it won't be about money in the future.)
Having said that, there is a future fundraising target that Pryce will announce. The hope is that the community will rally behind the site and Pryce's vision and begin to contribute to the "Next Generation" SW through the online payment system. This next generation will have significantly expanded functionality, and the additional funding from the members will help promote the site in other locations, will make it possible to staff it on a regular basis and generally bring it up to state-of-the-art in every way.
Just to be clear: At one point, Pryce did mention a lack of money for certain additional functionality because the proceeds for those specific upgrades were to come from the future fundraising program. But in general, the impediments at the present time are not monetary.
I think Pryce is the only person qualified to share with you the specifics on where he stands on priorities, how he plans to move forward and on what schedule and any other details on the various programs.
Miss_Luscious
07-31-2008, 09:39 PM
Thanks TOO
Madcap
07-31-2008, 09:42 PM
Would you rather he just take down the whole site for good?
Won't happen in a million years. He'd sell the domain name first. Hed be an idiot not to, and Pryce is no idiot.
britt244
07-31-2008, 10:31 PM
whoa ive been away and i come back and find this thread is 12 pages long? i tried to read it but got bored. ::)
Perry
07-31-2008, 10:50 PM
Having said that, there is a future fundraising target that Pryce will announce. The hope is that the community will rally behind the site and Pryce's vision and begin to contribute to the "Next Generation" SW through the online payment system. This next generation will have significantly expanded functionality, and the additional funding from the members will help promote the site in other locations, will make it possible to staff it on a regular basis and generally bring it up to state-of-the-art in every way.
I don't know if I'm a fan of that idea. Promoting Stripper Web on other sites could be an invitation to trolls. Paying or not, still we'd have a lot more people with stripper fever running around.
Jenny
07-31-2008, 11:29 PM
Miss_L:
I agree with you that this is a community and the fact that Pryce owns, runs and maintains the website doesn't mean that people aren't allowed to make suggestions, point out problems, or indeed, even complain. I'm pretty sure Pryce agrees with that too. But I do think it sometimes crosses a line from "We really want clubs and reviews" to "what the fuck? How dare you not be providing us with a clubs and reviews section, you lazy son of a bitch?" I think it is the second one that people tend to say "you know, if stripperweb sucks so bad you don't have to stay" to, not the first. I mean, saying "we as a community really want this feature back" is one thing; hurling names, impugning his characters and saying... I'm not exactly sure what - that he should shut down stripperweb? Like I'm not sure what these "He's too lazy and too uninterested" complaints are meant to be suggesting - is kind of mean and also not just looking a gift-pony in the mouth, but giving it a full rectal exam.
And yes, if you're wondering - I absolutely had to bring up ponies.
AlexxaHex
08-01-2008, 12:17 AM
Seriously? If its such a problem (C&R, site issues, etc)then why are people still here? Go away and pretend SW never existed. There, problem fixed. ;)
Well not for nothing but this site wouldn't be anything without it's members. It's a message board, plain and simple. So in all actuality, Pryce should be thankful that others wish to use his site and promote it by giving it the life it deserves. Not that I'm not thankful that he thought of the idea and keeps it around. But it goes both ways. When the members are not happy, it doesn't carry the same weight and momentum that it should. Things are out of balance and it is a common theme for those who have seen such a drastic change to be upset and want to fix it.
While I see a lot of "bandwagon mentality" around, I do believe there is a genuine interest in fixing the problems. It's half and half. If you don't care to fix any issues or if you don't see any, then go away and don't open this thread. I don't think there's anything wrong with trying when you care.
fancygirl
08-01-2008, 12:21 AM
Lets say Pryce has lost interest in it. Lets say hes tired of all the bitching and complaining about something he loved and now hes said f*** it.
Personally, I find that the drama has been in the past year, and that the site issues has been occuring for longer than that-- so I'm not willing to say that one has caused the other.
And certainly, he has a right to take down the site if he wishes. Or say, "deal with what you have now." He doesn't need to keep pretending that he's going to fix stuff when it's obvious that his "soon" is not our "soon."
And I can't always access the club reviews, even doing the backward entering of the code-- so I've stopped.
It is a valid point that Pryce, for all his talking, doesn't seem to produce very much in the way of results. I remember when he used to be on this site a lot more, and then he had a lot of stuff come up in his personal life and from that point on he's been rarely seen on here. I'm sure a few of the known members on here could help with the formatting if Pryce ever decided to actually update club reviews. He hasn't, and from what I've heard, has turned away offers for help.
As far as changes to come soon, I will happily believe it when I see it. Until then, I don't put much stock in Pryce or anyone else saying that a bunch of fabulous new changes are coming down the pike.
I really wish they would.
Edit: and I do agree that this is a marvelous site, otherwise I would not be on it so often over the past few years. Ever since the beginning I've thanked Pryce openly in threads about what a wonderful place this is. And I think it's awesome that TOO stepped in to help out. It's not as if I've said thanks just once, just like a lot of people on here I've openly praised both of these figures on SW. Yet just because I think that there is at least one glaring issue that should be addressed if I'm to think Pryce is in any way active on this site anymore-- it does not take away that earlier thanks.
But you can only thank a person so much for stuff done long ago (and some more current stuff--although not super current. I don't find the ticket system very useful for one thing but it's not a huge issue for me.) before you move on to the reality of what hasn't been dealt with for longer than a year.
cutey5032
08-01-2008, 01:15 AM
Why won't he sell the website? If he doesn't care and doesn't have time to be on it anymore to fix shit, then what is he holding on to it for? I've been having screennames on here since like, April 2007 and I always remembered C&R being unaccessable.
Also, I don't think people are necessarily being pissed about the fact shit on here doesn't work. Its more the fact we're being lied to all the time about "Changes coming" Its like.....we're dumb but we're not stupid. Pretty sure they ain't comin any time soon. Don't hold it in front of our faces if you aren't going to deliver.
UltraViolet
08-01-2008, 01:22 AM
^^Exactly what I said. :)
cutey5032
08-01-2008, 01:24 AM
^Sorry girl! This damn thread is so long haha
Sophia_Ashley
08-01-2008, 01:25 AM
I think everything has been repeated by now lol. Which means the cycle of this thread has come full circle.
UltraViolet
08-01-2008, 01:26 AM
Nah that's OK. Glad somebody totally gets me :P
Emily
08-01-2008, 01:29 AM
I think everything has been repeated by now lol. Which means the cycle of this thread has come full circle.
ponies! :P
TigersMilk
08-01-2008, 02:25 AM
This thread is still going?! Bwahahahaha!