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shasta
08-01-2008, 02:39 AM
We haven't had a thread like this in a while!
Ok, I will say it again like I always do on these threads. I think we should have an exact figure of how much money we need to raise for the clubs and review section and the web site in general. Why don't we have ads? I hate that we are supported be a creepy sugar daddy (my posts like this always get deleted).
Lysondra
08-01-2008, 02:50 AM
I still say the drama and fluff started with C&R going down. There wasn't anything else to talk about after that. Nowhere to get your advice, so what were you gonna do?
All Good Things
08-01-2008, 07:52 AM
Ok, I will say it again like I always do on these threads. I think we should have an exact figure of how much money we need to raise for the clubs and review section and the web site in general. Why don't we have ads? I hate that we are supported be a creepy sugar daddy (my posts like this always get deleted).
Well, I'm sorry I seem "creepy" to you, but I'm not really a sugardaddy at all. Sort of the site benefactor, that's all. And I stepped into that role when nobody else would, but many were asked -- during a period when we almost lost the site.
Pryce will announce a fundraising goal. That will be a dollar figure. You and everybody else will be able to contribute to that total. It's very important that everybody on the site has the opportunity to support a community that means so much to them.
I'll go off and work on my creepiness now. Do they have a shampoo for that? :)
ETA: Ads are planned as part of the future development.
Also, to Pryce and the mods: I would very much appreciate it if you could leave both of these posts up. Shasta can't be the only person with this view, and I want people so inclined to have the opportunity to voice it.
UltraViolet
08-01-2008, 10:58 AM
OK TOO, so when is SOON?
Weeks? Months? never?
All Good Things
08-01-2008, 12:23 PM
^ Pryce is the only one who can answer that question. Sorry I can't be of more help.
I think you can safely rule out "never," but the site belongs to him so he will be the one to decide.
Helle
08-01-2008, 01:07 PM
why bother
Sophia_Ashley
08-01-2008, 02:37 PM
insert smoke up our asses.
Soon is basically the same as STFU.
Elvia
08-01-2008, 06:20 PM
It does seem ridiculous that we can't get this fixed.
mercedez
08-01-2008, 07:23 PM
This thread is still going?! Bwahahahaha!
WOW!!! lots and lots of posts!!!
Cherry Valence
08-01-2008, 11:23 PM
OK, someone said that Pryce is no idiot...
Well, I have to disagree. If Pyrce was NOT an idiot, he would be generating income from this site based on the number of people that just show up to read. He would not need fundraising or income from a third party.
This site generates a lot of traffic and with carefully-placed Google-style ads he could make a ton.
What is Pryce's motivation for running this site? It's obviously not love of helping strippers with their game, because if that were true, the reviews section would be up. And it's not profit, since he is funded mostly by one person. So, what gives?
Madcap
08-01-2008, 11:30 PM
OK, someone said that Pryce is no idiot...
Well, I have to disagree. If Pyrce was NOT an idiot, he would be generating income from this site based on the number of people that just show up to read. He would not need fundraising or income from a third party.
This site generates a lot of traffic and with carefully-placed Google-style ads he could make a ton.
What is Pryce's motivation for running this site? It's obviously not love of helping strippers with their game, because if that were true, the reviews section would be up. And it's not profit, since he is funded mostly by one person. So, what gives?
All that = ads every other post like strip club list. A website like this doesn't cost a whole lot to maintain (though it can get to be a lot for one person on a weekly salary) and Pryce wants to keep it free. Free sites depend on member contributions. Since there is no way for members to contribute it either becomes ad supported (meaning ANNOYING) or creepy sugar daddy has to save the day.
Best solution: Find a way for member contributions to happen. How that happens is is someone else's business, not mine.
Madcap
08-01-2008, 11:34 PM
What is Pryce's motivation for running this site? It's obviously not love of helping strippers with their game, because if that were true, the reviews section would be up. And it's not profit, since he is funded mostly by one person. So, what gives?
Now that is a seriously good point. In the meantime, Pryce really needs a member suppoorted one. He's got a dead board, here, called political poo. Dead for years. Strip it out and rename it "clubs and reviews" and let the members take care of it message board style until he finishes his flashy doohicky software he's working on, or whatever he is doing. (He doesn't even have to do that, just make a new one, i could do it in 30 seconds, but the point is there's a DEAD board).
At any rate, dancers are screaming for clubs and reviews. And they are, after all, the target audience.
velvet
08-02-2008, 01:16 AM
all i can add to this is.
this is a free site. borne out of love of dancers. bitch moan and complain all you want. talk shit about our "creepy" benefactor. who by the way helps us be here. whine about clubs and reviews. do any of you have the means to start your own board?
oh yes and the "power tripping" mods. we live for this .LO FUCKING L.
It's not like pryce or any of us volunteers have a life out of SW. Spoiled ass dancers get a fucking grip.... or leave or.... better yet start your own board where you can set your own rules... or not.
thanks!
britt244
08-02-2008, 01:23 AM
^ ok seriously? why is that ok? "spoiled ass dancers get a fucking grip" ::) if we cant talk to each other that way WHY is it ok for a mod to do so? i can copy/paste threads that YOU have pointed me for that have been more tame than that.
MeanGirl
08-02-2008, 01:29 AM
all i can add to this is.
this is a free site. borne out of love of dancers. bitch moan and complain all you want. talk shit about our "creepy" benefactor. who by the way helps us be here. whine about clubs and reviews. do any of you have the means to start your own board?
oh yes and the "power tripping" mods. we live for this .LO FUCKING L.
It's not like pryce or any of us volunteers have a life out of SW. Spoiled ass dancers get a fucking grip.... or leave or.... better yet start your own board where you can set your own rules... or not.
thanks!
WOW, this makes me totally rethink SW. Are mod's dancers too? I was under the impression they were and if that isn't a site wide insult i don't know what is.
Darcy Foxx
08-02-2008, 01:35 AM
^ ok seriously? why is that ok? "spoiled ass dancers get a fucking grip" ::) if we cant talk to each other that way WHY is it ok for a mod to do so? i can copy/paste threads that YOU have pointed me for that have been more tame than that.
when you put a lot of your spare, unpaid time into trying to make this community a better place and are constantly told how much of a sadistic horrible person you are, it becomes easy to lose your cool. i know lots of people like to think we're all mean nasty emotionless robots, but sometimes the mod bashing does get a bit upsetting considering we're just trying to do our best with what we've got.
Cherry Valence
08-02-2008, 01:45 AM
OK so the site is free and "borne out of love of dancers." And the benefactor helps us be here, but no one will tell us how much it actually costs to run this site and plans for fund raising have gone on for a long time. I don't think people are complaining for naught; they are genuinely frustrated that they don't know how to help and no one seems to respond to the questions. Oh and someone did start her own review site for strippers. It's http://strippersontheroad.com/.
Thanks Lena!
velvet
08-02-2008, 01:59 AM
OK so the site is free and "borne out of love of dancers." And the benefactor helps us be here, but no one will tell us how much it actually costs to run this site. I don't think people are complaining for naught; they are genuinely frustrated that they don't know how to help and no one seems to respond to the questions.
but. it isnt anyone's business how much the site costs to run.
if in the future we need a fund raiser then i would think costs will be disclosed then. as it stands the funds are here now. we are not in danger of closing the site. until we need help what is there to be discussed
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MeanGirl
08-02-2008, 02:03 AM
^^I dont think anyone wants to know how much it costs to run out of sheer nosiness. Some of us want to help, but not being allowed to help is ridiculous.
MeanGirl
08-02-2008, 02:06 AM
what??? if i offend anyone. that wasnt my intention.
i just get tired of us mods and pryce being bashed.
i dont understand how this is considered a site wide insult.
I feel better that it wasn't your intention::) , but "spolied ass dancers get a grip"...how can that not be offensive? maybe I missed the bashing.
velvet
08-02-2008, 02:07 AM
^ ok seriously? why is that ok? "spoiled ass dancers get a fucking grip" ::) if we cant talk to each other that way WHY is it ok for a mod to do so? i can copy/paste threads that YOU have pointed me for that have been more tame than that.
omg i'm bowing out now. i was just trying to get my point across. i should know better than to to post any thing from an evil mod. sorry if you think what i said is harsh but it is in fact true
again britt. how do you know no one else got points or have had posts deleted.
Cherry Valence
08-02-2008, 02:13 AM
I guess it's no one's business if Pryce doesn't want to fix the Clubs and Reviews section, but since it's a major tool that we could use for our businesses, some of us would like to discuss why it can't be fixed. If it's an issue of cost, a lot of us would be curious as to why the current funds can't cover the cost of the Clubs and Reviews section being fixed, and why there has not been an effort to take the FREE MONEY a ton of us are offering Pryce to keep this site up to date. Sure, it's Pryce's site and Pryce's business, but since it's "borne out of a love of dancers" it doesn't seem unreasonable that this love would also inspire someone to work with us as a community to improve our resources. "Until we need help what is there to be discussed." That's the thing. If we had an easy PayPal system set up, we'd be able to easily fund the site on our own with no third parties and Pryce could even have extra funds to donate back into the site, if it is indeed borne out of a love of dancers. Then we wouldn't need help to keep it alive.
velvet
08-02-2008, 02:14 AM
^^I dont think anyone wants to know how much it costs to run out of sheer nosiness. Some of us want to help, but not being allowed to help is ridiculous.
well i have no control of that. let pryce know you want to contribute
I feel better that it wasn't your intention::) , but "spolied ass dancers get a grip"...how can that not be offensive? maybe I missed the bashing.
oh my bad. i guess i mis spoke. i was trying to make a point.
lost in translation?
i deleted my "offensive" post.
velvet
08-02-2008, 02:18 AM
I guess it's no one's business if Pryce doesn't want to fix the Clubs and Reviews section, but since it's a major tool that we could use for our businesses, some of us would like to discuss why it can't be fixed. If it's an issue of cost, a lot of us would be curious as to why the current funds can't cover the cost of the Clubs and Reviews section being fixed, and why there has not been an effort to take the FREE MONEY a ton of us are offering Pryce to keep this site up to date. Sure, it's Pryce's site and Pryce's business, but since it's "borne out of a love of dancers" it doesn't seem unreasonable that this love would also inspire someone to work with us as a community to improve our resources. "Until we need help what is there to be discussed." That's the thing. If we had an easy PayPal system set up, we'd be able to easily fund the site on our own with no third parties and Pryce could even have extra funds to donate back into the site, if it is indeed borne out of a love of dancers.
borne out of love of dancers is my saying. i dont want anyone to be confused and think that is pryce's statement.
velvet
08-02-2008, 02:23 AM
and he owes us why?
if it isnt broke (in the owners eyes) why fix it.
please. if anyone thinks i'm out of line report me.
Susan Wayward
08-02-2008, 03:46 AM
If there were no mods this site would have exploded by now.
Oh, my god. Did someone just say something . . . nice about us? Jenny, come here and hold my hand.
StuartL
08-02-2008, 04:34 AM
OK, someone said that Pryce is no idiot...
Well, I have to disagree. If Pyrce was NOT an idiot, he would be generating income from this site based on the number of people that just show up to read. He would not need fundraising or income from a third party.
This site generates a lot of traffic and with carefully-placed Google-style ads he could make a ton.
What is Pryce's motivation for running this site? It's obviously not love of helping strippers with their game, because if that were true, the reviews section would be up. And it's not profit, since he is funded mostly by one person. So, what gives?
I'd suggest that these type of opinions are a little harsh. Making money from an online forum - or any website for that matter - is not always easy or straightforward. Google ads often work for websites - but there is no guarantee that they will work here. After all, regular users are not all that inclined to click - they are here for the threads not the ads.
As for motivation, incentive is a wonderful thing. If every time Pryce looks at this site he sees threads suggesting he is an idiot, perhaps he might not be inclined to work so hard.
Just a thought...
Jenny
08-02-2008, 06:12 AM
I guess it's no one's business if Pryce doesn't want to fix the Clubs and Reviews section, but since it's a major tool that we could use for our businesses, some of us would like to discuss why it can't be fixed. If it's an issue of cost, a lot of us would be curious as to why the current funds can't cover the cost of the Clubs and Reviews section being fixed, and why there has not been an effort to take the FREE MONEY a ton of us are offering Pryce to keep this site up to date. Sure, it's Pryce's site and Pryce's business, but since it's "borne out of a love of dancers" it doesn't seem unreasonable that this love would also inspire someone to work with us as a community to improve our resources. "Until we need help what is there to be discussed." That's the thing. If we had an easy PayPal system set up, we'd be able to easily fund the site on our own with no third parties and Pryce could even have extra funds to donate back into the site, if it is indeed borne out of a love of dancers. Then we wouldn't need help to keep it alive.
The fact that this site exists for us doesn't necessarily mean that the owner is at our beck and call. And while "discussing the lack of clubs and reviews" is valid what you said was just incredibly unkind. I mean you are hurling names at person who has done nothing except provide you with stripperweb because why? He isn't providing you with everything else you want yesterday.
I personally still have faith that clubs and reviews will be fixed, although I really understand the frustration (although not the meanness). The reason we don't have a timeline is probably because if it was late... well there would be this kind of nastiness times 10. People here can sometimes feel pretty entitled. And if dude wants to spend the weekend putting in overtime, going out with his girlfriend, visiting his mom or entering a pie eating contest instead of locked in a small room making things better for you - I think he's allowed.
A member has started her own review site. I'm not sure if I should post a link here; there could be some kind of bad feeling overflow.
Jenny
08-02-2008, 06:15 AM
Oh, my god. Did someone just say something . . . nice about us? Jenny, come here and hold my hand.
It did make me feel all warm inside. But I didn't want to make her feel awkward.
slims099
08-02-2008, 07:44 AM
It takes about 5 minutes to put a Paypal page up with contributions ranging from like $10 to $50 (per person) in 10 dollar increments or what have you. I just made those numbers up cause I'm not sure what it would cost to host the site.
With the amount of traffic I'd figure hosting is $50-$150 a month depending on what host account he uses. It's not that expensive usually, but this site gets a lot of traffic for sure, and people do lots of searching which takes up bandwidth.
Miss_Luscious
08-02-2008, 08:22 AM
Velvet, you were so out of line. No one said "Velvet is a horrible mod" In fact, no one said anything personally about any of the mods at all. We don't like how threads are closed and deleted but I haven't seen anything that that attacked any one mod.
We need new mods. Point blank some of the ones we have (Emily, Darcy and now Velvet) are just not out out for it. They are not held to a higher standard and talk grimey as shit to other posters. Why is that allowed? I've already complained about these people but guess what??? No response.
Yeah, I named names. Please point, ban, etc. But please also point your fellow mods who insist on saying things much much worse than I ever have on here.
*Iris*
08-02-2008, 08:27 AM
I have to agree with the mods on this one.
TigersMilk
08-02-2008, 08:35 AM
Hey thanks Iris.
Look you guys everything has been said to death now and over the years. The dead horse is dust by now from everyone beating it down.
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Did everyone take the survey? Did they say what they really wanted to say because that was the time to say it? Good, bad or straight out bitchy; it was all accepted in the survey. I don't understand why we are even having this discussion now. It's up to Pryce to fix or not fix anything he wants in any manner or time he wants.
We are not entitled to this site. I wish people would quit acting like they are. If things get fixed great and if they don't oh well. As the site stands right now it's still very useful.
Ponies and peace
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xdamage
08-02-2008, 08:39 AM
I can't help but wonder though if the reason Pryce hasn't been anxious to start a contributor system because it has already been done in the past (akak Platinum Member) and maybe he already found it is more trouble then it is worth.
It's funny because people are upset when TOO wants some recognition for giving. I don't see what the big deal is, that is us humans, we tend to want something for our altruism. Human Nature.
Contributors in the past wanted a special Platinum Member title, but did they also expect an extra degree of freedom and privilege too?
It's all to easy to see how a donation system could turn foul, into a SW caste system. Plus I predict those who give money, no matter how small, at least some will be inclined to believe this gives them extra rights to make demands on Pryce, something Pryce undoubtedly does not want.
Like always it is a matter of trade offs... all solutions come with their own negatives.
p.s. yea and for those who say it is easy/cheap to run a site like this, it's easy to say it is, but if you aren't actually doing so... well it's just words without substance. Do it! That is how to be believed.
All Good Things
08-02-2008, 09:46 AM
^ Well actually, I'm not looking for recognition. The banner is down -- it was only up there as a demo, anyway -- and it will remain so because it upset some of the dancers.
This is the first thread since the survey that I know of that has even discussed site funding, among other things, and I will only respond to those inquiries to keep the discussion accurate. That's it.
I can't unring the bell, but if I could go back to being the anonymous benefactor like I was for two years, I'd take it. Now that the cat's out of the bag, I just try to manage it. When the donor lists are published in the fundraising campaign, there will be many members on that list, so the impact of my name will be sort of washed out, so this problem will go away in the future.
Anyway....
The C&R section will be fixed. I know everybody thinks this is a simple fix. It's not. I don't think there is any point going into why this is, and I don't care how many people with similar or related experience think it's not. In the case of SW, it is. There are also other factors that make fixing it difficult. But it will be fixed.
OK, I will be brief: It's more expensive to run this site than you think. It just is. Bandwidth alone: Think of all the photos, animation, avatars, video loops, etc. that download every single time a page loads, and multiply that by the thousands of daily page views and you will understand the server muscle and bandwidth requirements to keep this site loading quickly and efficiently. There is a reason that we've had three, count them -- three -- separate server/software upgrades in the last four years. The objective is to make this site purr like a fat and happy cat, and I think that has been achieved.
An online payment system for member contributions is already in the process of being set up, as Pryce has already noted. It cannot be PayPal because they do not accept adult sites and have already rejected SW once and are not an option in the future. It will be a different payment processor.
Ads are planned for the next generation version of SW. This is the third time I've said this, after Pryce talked about it at length in the survey and on the boards, so it's not exactly news.
The objective is to make it possible for members to have a sense of ownership and to diversify the funding base. It's not so much a fear that I might get hit by a bread truck, but that the site is a community and the individuals in the community should feel that they play a role. Ads are another form of diversification.
FWIW, it's my personal opinion that SW could become not only self-sustaining, but actually profitable. But right now it's like an old, charming house that is desperately in need of a dozen different repairs. It takes time, dedication, effort and money to do this. Everybody has his or her own idea of what part of the house needs to be fixed first. The owner of the house is the guy who has to make that call.
Oh, and Pryce gets nothing in return for everything he puts into this site. Nothing. Just thought I'd mention that. It's a labor of love. Same with the mods. They are volunteers who contribute huge amounts of time with no compensation or recognition whatsoever. In fact, they usually are the target of ridicule or accusations of power-tripping. This is terribly unfortunate and unfair. If you have complaints or other problems or run-ins with the mods, they should be expressed with at least a molecule of appreciation for the volunteer job they do to hold this site together. And make no mistake about it -- that's exactly what they do.
CKXXX
08-02-2008, 09:57 AM
It takes about 5 minutes to put a Paypal page up with contributions ranging from like $10 to $50 (per person) in 10 dollar increments or what have you. I just made those numbers up cause I'm not sure what it would cost to host the site.
Paypal doesnt allow adult sites to go through them
NewMoon
08-02-2008, 09:59 AM
You could do the paypal thing if it were privately arranged. I paid for a subscription to domai.com with paypal and they just told me not to mention anything about the site in my transaction.
Unless you make it known, they have no idea what the funds are for. It could be a "contact Pryce if you want to donate" sort of thing.
Just sayin.....
britt244
08-02-2008, 10:00 AM
omg i'm bowing out now. i was just trying to get my point across. i should know better than to to post any thing from an evil mod. sorry if you think what i said is harsh but it is in fact true
again britt. how do you know no one else got points or have had posts deleted.
i dont give a flying rat's ass who else got points. the point is what you said and wow was that out of line. my question was why were you allowed to say it and someone who isnt a mod wouldnt be?
geez.. i certainly wasnt mod bashing or even really PARTICIPATING in this thread until i saw that comment. >:(
Joplin
08-02-2008, 10:07 AM
You could do the paypal thing if it were privately arranged. I paid for a subscription to domai.com with paypal and they just told me not to mention anything about the site in my transaction.
Unless you make it known, they have no idea what the funds are for. It could be a "contact Pryce if you want to donate" sort of thing.
Just sayin.....
I hear Paypal can be kind of shiesty though. If they pulled the funds and kept them I'm sure Pryce would have no way to recover them since technically they were funding something against paypals rules. Kind of risky.
I personally would love to see clubs and reviews up and running, but I don't feel like I can get heated or overtly adamant about it. It's pryces site, he can do or not do anything he wants. Hell he could shut it down tomorrow. Really it's a privilege that we get to use it so I don't think we have room to complain. The last thing he needs are people feeling like they own part of the site (by 'donating') and getting all crazy (not saying that we are now, but people already have strong opinions about how this site should be ran, just think how big those opinions will get if they are financially invested) about maintenance.
All Good Things
08-02-2008, 10:09 AM
Unless you make it known, they have no idea what the funds are for. It could be a "contact Pryce if you want to donate" sort of thing.
There are other reasons for not using PayPal. In commercial transactions, they've been known to behave in less than professional ways.
That's about the nicest way I can put that. :)
xdamage
08-02-2008, 10:10 AM
^ Well actually, I'm not looking for recognition. The banner is down -- it was only up there as a demo, anyway -- and it will remain so because it upset some of the dancers.
This is the first thread since the survey that I know of that has even discussed site funding, among other things, and I will only respond to those inquiries to keep the discussion accurate. That's it.
I can't unring the bell, but if I could go back to being the anonymous benefactor like I was for two years, I'd take it. Now that the cat's out of the bag, I just try to manage it. When the donor lists are published in the fundraising campaign, there will be many members on that list, so the impact of my name will be sort of washed out, so this problem will go away in the future.
Well the banner was a bit over the top, but I really don't see any issue with wanting a little recognition TOO. It's expensive to run a site like this, and you've given a large chunk of money to do it, so personally I see no problem with getting a little thanks for it, but interestingly enough... it raises the question. The question of, maybe there should NOT be a "donor list" - keep it anonymous. What good can come of knowing who donated? The only reason I can see is people want recognition for their donation, which is the very crime you are accused of.
loveandluxury
08-02-2008, 10:12 AM
Why don't we have "moderator elections"? We can nominate people, and the current mods are of course in it and the members can vote on the mods? I think that would greatly eliminate a lot of the problems people tend to have with some of the mods.
I personally don't have any problems with anybody, but I think certain mods are better than others and know a couple of people who do have problems with certain mods. We can set criteria like a certain length of membership on the site etc.
All Good Things
08-02-2008, 10:14 AM
^ Part of it is recognition, sure, but the larger point is that it serves to encourage others to donate. If you see your friends stepping up to the plate, it makes it easier for you to do so.
This is just my own personal observation.
britt244
08-02-2008, 10:20 AM
Why don't we have "moderator elections"? We can nominate people, and the current mods are of course in it and the members can vote on the mods? I think that would greatly eliminate a lot of the problems people tend to have with some of the mods.
I personally don't have any problems with anybody, but I think certain mods are better than others and know a couple of people who do have problems with certain mods. We can set criteria like a certain length of membership on the site etc.
i think that happened in the past and has been suggested again and pryce said no. with (as far as i know) no real explanation.. i guess the mods do the picking? TM and lexi (who i think are super fair and have been doing a great job! :)) seemed like they were out of the blue, when there were tons of people saying they wanted cameron to help paige in the lounge and she was volunteering. that was ignored. so i dont really get that.
part of the thing about elections though would be that that kind of turns it into a popularity contest. or personal vendettas. you know? some people have a hard time separating who they LIKE from who would be a good mod. i know that i was all excited about the thought of cameron becoming a mod bc i really liked her. and TM and i didnt get along so well at times before she became a mod and when she did, i thought 'oh great.. another mod who doesnt like me' but since she's been one my opinion of her has changed completely and again, i think she does a really good, fair job.
ExoticEngineer
08-02-2008, 10:21 AM
Holy-guacamole. K, IF any of you are truly curious about how hard it is to maintain and develop vBulletin forums, you should investigate it. You can also see how much it costs to start one up. Etc.
vBulletin isn't an easy forum program to change around. And nothing, I repeat NOTHING ever goes smoothly the first time when coding. So while it does suck the c&r section has been down for long...I do understand how and why it could be happening.
I think the suggestion for clearing out one of the sections (political poo I think it was) and letting the girls post there for the time being is a good idea.
I watched this thread go for so long, and honestly couldn't figure out what people were upset about, was it cliques? was it the mods? was it the c&r? was it threads being closed too soon? was it too much talk of ponies?
Whatever the reason, I personally think we forget sometimes just how many people are really on this forum. And if the Mods or Pryce were to change one thing to please those of you who complained, what about the ones who didn't complain and like it just fine the way it is? Where do they stand?
I agree, the C&R is an important section for us, a very useful tool, but as for the rest...is it really that bad? I mean...really?
And back to the C&R, let's say that it comes back up...but let's say that all the info that was in there gets wiped out (this is totally hypothetical, so don't flip out) would you all be willing to start over and fill in the info again? Start from scratch basically? I have reasons for asking that.....
?
Miss_Luscious
08-02-2008, 10:23 AM
Why don't we have "moderator elections"? We can nominate people, and the current mods are of course in it and the members can vote on the mods? I think that would greatly eliminate a lot of the problems people tend to have with some of the mods.
I personally don't have any problems with anybody, but I think certain mods are better than others and know a couple of people who do have problems with certain mods. We can set criteria like a certain length of membership on the site etc.
I think this is a good idea but there is the problem of it turning into a popularity contest. Maybe if we could agree on a set of criteria and vote based on that like you said then it could work. We need level headed, fair, don't-talk-to-other-posters-any-kind-of-way-they-want mods.
i think that happened in the past and has been suggested again and pryce said no. with (as far as i know) no real explanation.. i guess the mods do the picking? TM and lexi (who i think are super fair and have been doing a great job! :)) seemed like they were out of the blue, when there were tons of people saying they wanted cameron to help paige in the lounge and she was volunteering. that was ignored. so i dont really get that.
;) Thanks Britt.
Actually the process took some time. I did offer to moderate, I asked Pryce, I told other mods, etc. It didnt just happen right away.
But I think part of the reason why I did become a mod was because I used to Mod here a few years ago.
Thanks for thinking we are fair mods though! Its nice to hear!
Joplin
08-02-2008, 10:34 AM
I would be okay with starting C&R all over. Most of the posts are way out dated, some of the clubs don't even exist. We're used to starting a new thread in CR talking about a club so starting a review for a club really isn't too hard.
Miss_Luscious
08-02-2008, 10:36 AM
I watched this thread go for so long, and honestly couldn't figure out what people were upset about, was it cliques? was it the mods? was it the c&r? was it threads being closed too soon? was it too much talk of ponies?
Yes, all of the above. It has evolved I guess. But these are the things that are bothering people. And the ponies thing is just purposeful derailing which I believe is against the rules of the site but I could be wrong
Whatever the reason, I personally think we forget sometimes just how many people are really on this forum. And if the Mods or Pryce were to change one thing to please those of you who complained, what about the ones who didn't complain and like it just fine the way it is? Where do they stand?
I'm wondering who would be unhappy with a fixed C&R, more respect between posters, changes in mods who don't act like mods and less closure/deletion of threads that aren't "nice". Who would be put out by these changes?
And back to the C&R, let's say that it comes back up...but let's say that all the info that was in there gets wiped out (this is totally hypothetical, so don't flip out) would you all be willing to start over and fill in the info again? Start from scratch basically? I have reasons for asking that.....
Yes, I believe so. I know I would re-add the reviews I've made as well as add new ones.
BohemianSiren
08-02-2008, 10:41 AM
We continue to have these threads, yet nothing ever seems to get resolved. It seems to me that members are too busy attacking each other to address the issues at hand.
Couldn't Pryce set up a P.O. Box where we could (gasp!) mail donations? Yes, I know it's a little old-school in the age of the internet, but it would get the job done, I think.
Also, if Pryce hasn't the time he needs to work on this site, why not designate a portion of our donations to hiring additional tech support for the site?