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Optimist
08-03-2008, 06:05 AM
The kvetching, fingerpointing and mild drama aside, both "sides" have valid arguments. Now, more than ever with this shaky economy, the dancers on this site need the Clubs & Reviews resource available to them. I believe that's why they're so focused on that particular SW failing, as it goes beyond the social interaction and speaks to their careers and pocketbooks.



The crux of the issue is really communication. It was really kind of cruel of Pryce to raise the hopes of the members of this site with the Survey and then the posting of the results without offering some type of timeline ("soon" just doesn't pay the rent). The anger and antipathy from not knowing causes the members to lash out at the mods, deserved or not.

CP

HALLLELUJAH!! Spot on! My main reason for hanging out here was to make more money and finding the best clubs is vital to staying afloat.

All Good Things
08-03-2008, 09:01 AM
TOO, if you really want to help StripperWeb (as opposed to making it your personal hunting ground), I would respectfully recommend you hit whatever speed dial number you have for Curtis' cell phone and have him just make a small, brief appearance, and give the natives some type of bone, even if it isn't what we want to hear. Knowing a negative is a helluva lot better than not knowing anything at all. CP

"If I really wanted to help StripperWeb?"

Listen, I don't mind having you slap me into line now and again. God knows, I deserve it. I think your use of pictures and irony is downright brilliant. You know I've liked you from the beginning because I had a fit as a newbie when the mods jumped on you for flaming me. But if you are going to cross lines on this site, then let's be accurate and fair-minded.

StripperWeb would have disappeared over three years ago without me. Pryce has said so himself. The reason you are reading these words right now is because of me. I didn't see you reach into your pocketbook when the site was vanishing for days at a time and contribute what was necessary to keep it alive and to sustain the upgrades -- back when we could use a mailing address. Back when the appeals for money were public and constant and the site was in deep trouble. All I know is that you picked up your ball and ran home when the mods jumped on you. It was probably my fault for not being persuasive enough.

Anyway, the amusing snot-nosed 13-year-old wise ass act is amusing until the mortgage is due. I suggest that you use a little of the humility you are constantly urging on me and apply it to yourself before you climb on your self-righteous soapbox.

Regarding the "personal hunting ground" comment, a true high point for you: Answering one's PM inbox is considered good etiquette.

Your concern about the dancers' financial well being was touching. Perhaps if you were worried about the true financial well-being of the dancers on this site as much as you are about your search function on Photobucket, you would not be so inclined to make snide personal attacks on the one person who actually does do this. I mean who takes an active role in assuring the financial well-being of the dancers on this site and has for three years. Yanno what I mean?

This one time: You can take your self-righteous, self-serving comments about my public comments on my personal financial help for the dancers or for StripperWeb and stick them straight up your ass.

Finally, you don't have a clue about how much work has gone into the upgrades on the site, and haven't the slightest notion about how difficult it has been for the owner to balance the demands of this site with his own personal life. But he's still hired help, still put together the survey, did the analysis, provides the vision, developed the plan and concurrently does a dozen other things behind the scene to make this site operate. And operate it does.

I'm sorry that he has not responded quickly enough with a complete, detailed timeline for you, Sir. Please be assured that I will drop everything else I am doing right now and make a personal call to him and tell him that the free site he's provided for years at considerable cost, time and personal devotion with nothing in return has a member that demands that he meet an immediate timeline and that his treatment of the members of this site has been "cruel."

To the others: We actually use a bat signal, so I have to wait until nightfall to use it. :) But I will be sure to let him know what is going on.

That is all. I need to go cool off for a while.

TigersMilk
08-03-2008, 09:03 AM
I have read it all. *falls over*

*Iris*
08-03-2008, 09:08 AM
I would just like to say thank you to Pryce, TOO, other people who have made this website possible, and the mods because without y'all stripperweb wouldn't be here. I really like this forum which is why im here practically every day. If I didn't like it or something was bothering me I would just do something else.

stripperMBA
08-03-2008, 09:26 AM
Honestly people what is all this biting the hand that feeds you stuff. To those bashing those who run stripperweb could you honestly do any better. If you can I encourage you to start your own site. And to answer Britt question I do know this taking the site down would not be that hard to do. So why can't some be happy the site is up. Be thankful for what you have. Imagine if we all woke up oneday and stripperweb was not here. How would you feel?? If you would miss it then obviously you love this site enough to still be on it. If you would not miss it then maybe stripperweb is not for you.

britt244
08-03-2008, 09:27 AM
^ i didnt ask that.../:O

stripperMBA
08-03-2008, 09:39 AM
i dont know much about computers but how does something just stop working? like, the way around it.. how does that just not work one day?
I was refering to this question. I watched my brother take his website down once and it did not take him long. I would never want that to happen to stripperweb.

Miss_Luscious
08-03-2008, 09:48 AM
Wait wait wait...so to all the people who are saying just be grateful for what we have and what if Pryce just shut it down I'm going to add my own "What ifs":

What if various forums stopped working. What if you couldn't access Club Chat or Hustle Hut or Stripping General? Would you just go, "Oh well, at least we still have Customer Convo! Let's be thankful for that!" I mean really, what would have to stop working (and stay broken FOR YEARS) before you decided it's a problem that needs to be vocally spoken out against?

By the way, those "what if" arguments are fallacious and don't serve to further the discussion in any way, nor do they help to solve the problem. What if Pryce decides to shiut the site down is about as relevant to the conversation as "What if all the members who have complained about the site died right now". Yeah, what if? I guess with the first one the site would be gone and the second one, well, I (along with quite a few others) would be dead and I guess who ever is sick of reading our posts will be happy.

But does it matter? It is happening? Has Pryce said "Shut up with all the complaints or I'm going to shut this bitch down?" True enough, as I have said before, he doesn't HAVE To do shit. But we are talking about what SHOULD be done to keep the site at it's best which I would think Pryce would want to do since he created and has "maintained" this site with his blood sweat and tears (along with TOOs millions). If Pryce wants to shut it down, then please let those words come from him, Don't keep telling others to stop vocalizing their frustrations because of "What if" scenarios.

britt244
08-03-2008, 09:49 AM
I was refering to this question. I watched my brother take his website down once and it did not take him long. I would never want that to happen to stripperweb.

ohhh ok. i didnt mean how did somebody take down a website, i meant how come c&r worked and then it just stopped. EE explained it.. but i'm not very technical so i don't really get it.. and i'm ok with that lol.

Jenny
08-03-2008, 09:57 AM
Can I recommend that we don't make this yet another thread about TOO? People ask for what insight he has, get mad when he answers and then bring up conjecture of past behaviour, of which the full story is usually between TOO and one other party, and is honestly none of the rest of our business. People have opinions, whether they are well founded or not; that doesn't mean that every thread has to be about the dude. Whatever you might think of last year, I don't think anyone can say that in the past couple months TOO has been anything but an impeccable donor (with a single lapse that he acknowledged and apologized for).

TOO doesn't own the site. What insight he has is in his role as a principal donor, and that is information that we all have at this point. Pryce has not published a timeline for the very specific reason that he didn't want to. Having TOO call him is not going to change that and would just embarrass everyone with a ridiculous and awkward situation. If we don't want him acting like a "creepy sugar daddy" then why don't we stop insisting that he act like a "creepy sugar daddy" every time there is a problem on stripperweb?

stripperMBA
08-03-2008, 09:59 AM
[QUOTE=Miss_Luscious;1649748]Wait wait wait...so to all the people who are saying just be grateful for what we have and what if Pryce just shut it down I'm going to add my own "What ifs":

What if various forums stopped working. What if you couldn't access Club Chat or Hustle Hut or Stripping General? Would you just go, "Oh well, at least we still have Customer Convo! Let's be thankful for that!" I mean really, what would have to stop working (and stay broken FOR YEARS) before you decided it's a problem that needs to be vocally spoken out against?]]]
Then I would just find another industry related board to join. Which would not be the same as stripperweb. Because regardless of all the problems that stripperweb has it is still a good resource. I like stripperweb and all it's faults and that is why I am here. Those who do not like this site nor the person running it I wonder why are you here?

All Good Things
08-03-2008, 10:02 AM
^ Jenny, I think the thread has successfully returned to a discussion of the site situation and not about me. So let's continue in that direction.

I had planned to contact Pryce in the course of ongoing activities anyway, so there is no point in belaboring that.

stripperMBA
08-03-2008, 10:21 AM
is it me or does anyone else see the obvious?

this is the internet
this is a free site
if its so bad and awful make your own site?
make your own site and moderate it how you want.
make it a pay to join site if you want

i dont see anyone doing that....

the point im trying to make is this site cant be that bad because nobody is doing this!

and just like anythng else on the net, you have a CHOICE if you want to participate or not on it.

i dont understand why people have to attack others in there same field. you should be using this site for commeraderie >sp< , to get advise, to warn of pit falls or bad clubs. to help each other out. but it sounds like its becoming a "dick swinging" contest (sorry im male and its the only way i can describe this)
........
:yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:

Miss_Luscious
08-03-2008, 10:29 AM
Then I would just find another industry related board to join. Which would not be the same as stripperweb. Because regardless of all the problems that stripperweb has it is still a good resource. I like stripperweb and all it's faults and that is why I am here.




Exactly. We don't want t leave and we don't want SW shut down. We want things fixed that were supposd to be fixed years ago.


Those who do not like this site nor the person running it I wonder why are you here?

As far as liking Pryce, I don't know the man enough to like or dislike him. What I don't like is how he has handled things. It has nothing to do with him as a person.

Let me bold this so I can be clear:

No one has said they hate SW and think its a horrible place. No one want to leave because of the problems we have discussed here. We want SW to be the best it can be. We love it as much as the rest of you who dare not complain or "bite the hand that feeds you".

Now I'm just speaking for myself but the reason I have been so vocal is because I care. If I didn't care or didn't like SW or had another resource such as SW, then of course I would be gone. But none of that is true.

Let's say you rent a faboulous house. You've been there for years and you absolutlely love it. There are no others houses like it anywhere. However, the landlord has become increasingly absentee and things are starting to go undone for way too long. You and some of your roommates start to complain but again, you love the house and you don't want to leave. Now a few of your roommates tell you to hush up because the landlord could tear the house down any moment if he wanted to so just be quite and live with the leaks, cracks in the plaster, etc. Some of your roommates do have the ability to fix these things and have offered to do so for the landlord a no cost but they have not been taken up on the offer. So what do you do? Abandon the house you love or keep trying to get the house back in tip top shape?

I don't know about ya'll but I'm all for putting my time and money into getting shit fixed so, no, I'm not going to be quiet about this.

Jenny
08-03-2008, 10:29 AM
^^^
I actually prefer to think of it as an ovary swinging contest. You know who has the biggest, the most, the most fertile.

Miss L - when you rent a house you are paying for certain privileges. You are not paying for those privileges here. If someone gave you a house, and then went on vacation or couldn't afford to have the basement refinished and you constantly badgered them, annoyed them, went so far as to call them names because you wanted a finished basement, felt you deserved a finished basement and that you couldn't have an adequate party without a finished basement would be a better comparison. And then some of your friends, who are largely amateurs and aren't particularly qualified want to get their hands on his house and "fix it up" the way you want it because you would prefer to throw down some peel and stick tile than wait for him to finish his house the way he wants it, and he says "No. This is my house, I'm investing in it and I want the basement when it is finished to be good." So what should you do? Constantly badger him, encourage other to call names, bitch about everything else in the house until (or in case) he does what you want in this house he is letting you live in for free? That doesn't seem a little bit... self-entitled to you? Or do you think that since he has said "I will get to it when I can get to it" that maybe you could instead devote your efforts to keeping the rest of the house nice, maybe doing some dishes, giving positive participation instead of endless complaining and maybe a "Thank you for letting me live in your house (by the way, I would really like the basement finished)" just occasionally?

Miss_Luscious
08-03-2008, 10:31 AM
^^^
I actually prefer to think of it as an ovary swinging contest. You know who has the biggest, the most, the most fertile.

If that's the case, I win. I'm pretty sure I'm the most fertile woman on earth. I don't even have to have sex to get pregnant. I'm not even sure how I got pregnant this time:-\ .

stripperMBA
08-03-2008, 10:32 AM
:rotfl: :rotfl:

Jenny
08-03-2008, 10:39 AM
If that's the case, I win. I'm pretty sure I'm the most fertile woman on earth. I don't even have to have sex to get pregnant. I'm not even sure how I got pregnant this time:-\ .
Like "My ovaries are so fucking fecund.. you don't even know what you're dealing with right now."

Pryce
08-03-2008, 10:49 AM
I've read page 1 and page 17. This thread should have been closed after the first post. I don't see any thing being asked that hasn't been directly addressed in the past couple of months.