View Full Version : Whoa....this is sad
AmberHoney
07-30-2008, 09:14 AM
It's bad to be too skinny, and it's bad to be too fat.
These women are UNNATURALLY thin. Unless someone has end stage cancer, AIDS, or is a victim of famine... that can't happen naturally. Yes there are a couple girls on there who appear naturally thin and probably eat nothing but 8oz white meat chicken and 4 cups leafy green vegetables and 1 Ritz cracker with each meal to be even thinner, but that is not a 'naturally thin' look.
I have seen people who are naturally 5'5'' and 100lbs and they appear very thin but they don't have that starvation look to them. When each rib, each vertebrae, a clear outline of your entire pelvis is visible, an outline of each tooth can be seen through your cheeks...you are starving.
This website is a fetish website. Ignoring the content...it fits the profile of what a fetish is. Dead bodies, fish heads, totem poles, silk pillows, the sound of a blow dryer, buckets of lard and buckets of bones...fetishes are a sexual attraction to non sexual things.
kitana
07-30-2008, 06:15 PM
It trips me out that some of you want to look like any of the chicks on there. O.o
The brunette was the least freaky, but her legs rivaled my arms in girth. Men don't like that, and neither does your health
Apparently SOME people DO like it, and like it quite a bit.
To each their own, ya know? I am passive about the whole thing, just cause it's none of my business what they do, or who likes it.
kitana
07-30-2008, 06:17 PM
Medical studies and insurance statistics seem to support the vastly unhealthy nature of having a BMI of 16.5 or less. That is anorexia criteria thin, and it's the point at which your body starts to eat itself. It's very unhealthy, more so than being slightly overweight.
I totally disagree. 16.5% is NOT anorexia thin, by any standards. I am 16% myself, and far from Kate Moss thanks. /:O
NewMoon
07-30-2008, 06:20 PM
kitana - It's not 16.5%. It's just 16.5 and refers to BMI. How tall are you and how much do you weight?
I am 5'5 and 115 pounds. My BMI is 19.1.
To be at 16.5 I'd have to be 99 pounds. That is scary!!!
http://www.nhlbisupport.com/bmi/
lgrant98001
07-30-2008, 08:44 PM
When I first saw the warning, "****WARNING...MAY BE ED TRIGGERING****", I was thinking ED stood for Erectile Dysfunction. Then I realized it meant Eating Disorder. Then I looked at the site, and realized that my first guess was accurate, too, at least for me.
I'd much prefer looking at a figure like Darcy Foxx's (not to single her out over everyone else--I know most of you in this business have slammin' bods--but I've seen full-length pictures of her, and I haven't of most of you).
So I won't be signing up for that site....
Be well,
Lynn
Pretty_Penny
07-30-2008, 11:47 PM
kitana - It's not 16.5%. It's just 16.5 and refers to BMI. How tall are you and how much do you weight?
I am 5'5 and 115 pounds. My BMI is 19.1.
To be at 16.5 I'd have to be 99 pounds. That is scary!!!
http://www.nhlbisupport.com/bmi/
that little BMI calculator thing said mine is 19.4 ....... it says anything under 18.5 is underweight.
yeah i know, it's just an internet thingy, but i was curious.
apparently i'd have to be 15 lbs less than i am now to be 16.5.. that would be SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUPER thin.
Hatshepsut
07-31-2008, 12:38 AM
Why the fuck does Auschwitz come to mind?
Sveta
07-31-2008, 12:48 AM
Why the fuck does Auschwitz come to mind?
No idea...the lucite heels, leather thongs and fluffy french-maid outfits made that just about the last thing that would come to my mind, even for the extreme-looking girls.
Seriously though...some of the girls on there are extreme and unhealthy-looking, but others are just on the thin side of average. With nearly 2/3 of the American population overweight and 1/3 of those in the obese sub-category, big looks normal and our general perception of what's "too skinny" is skewed.
Take a trip to many Western and Eastern European countries and you'll see a LOT of girls as small as some of the brunettes on that site, and that's normal. And a lot of what we'd call "healthy" is fat elsewhere. Over here the perception's just different.
fancygirl
07-31-2008, 12:55 AM
^ you never saw "Springtime for Hitler"
Sveta
07-31-2008, 01:03 AM
^ you never saw "Springtime for Hitler"
d'oh! didn't think of that.
kitana
07-31-2008, 03:43 AM
kitana - It's not 16.5%. It's just 16.5 and refers to BMI. How tall are you and how much do you weight?
I am 5'5 and 115 pounds. My BMI is 19.1.
To be at 16.5 I'd have to be 99 pounds. That is scary!!!
http://www.nhlbisupport.com/bmi/
I don't do BMI, I do body fat %, I guess that is where I was getting things confused, lol!
I am 5'4" and 126lbs, mostly muscle.
By an online BMI mine is 21.4; but I don't go by that, since it doesn't take into account muscle to fat ratio, or natural body build.
Lysondra
07-31-2008, 04:58 AM
Yeah... piece of shit BMI.
OmgShesWild
07-31-2008, 06:19 AM
*typing this as I chow down on my massive M&M Chocochip Cookie, lol*
Those girls are so tiny, some are pretty- some look a little "weird"...personally I don't see anything wrong with the site- all body types can be attractive- its more about how you carry yourself. The skinniest people who I know eat like little piggies so I know that just because someone is thin doesn't make them anorexic. Not to mention saying "eewwwww she is so gross she is so skinny" is just as offensive and saying "ewwww she's a big fat pig" about someone heavy.
I like looking at really thin models, not as "thinspiration" cause I know I'd never get that small no matter what I do. But they have amazing lines, bones, and shape that the rest of us don't have and its artistic and pretty to look at.
NewMoon
07-31-2008, 06:31 AM
I don't do BMI, I do body fat %, I guess that is where I was getting things confused, lol!
I am 5'4" and 126lbs, mostly muscle.
By an online BMI mine is 21.4; but I don't go by that, since it doesn't take into account muscle to fat ratio, or natural body build.
The point of BMI is to give a range of healthy weight at your height. At my height, I could weigh between 111-150 pounds and still be healthy. 111 would be a person who has small frame and isn't physically active. 150 would be someone with a larger frame who does have a lot of muscle.
I agree BMI is mostly useless but I still believe it to be accurate.
PrettyCurlieQ
07-31-2008, 07:02 AM
Is this supposed to be porn or something?
Madcap
07-31-2008, 07:22 PM
Is this supposed to be porn or something?
Yes.
:yuck:
Sveta
07-31-2008, 08:39 PM
:yuck:
OK, I give up. If you get your kicks from putting people down, who am I to try and spoil your fun? ::)
Madcap
07-31-2008, 08:44 PM
Who me? I'm not putting the girls on that site down (Other than some of them need serious help), i'm putting the men who are jerking off at the models' illness down.
I'm a little offended that the converse could have even been an issue!
Madcap
07-31-2008, 09:24 PM
I made it abundantly clear in my first post in this thread what was disgusting about that site, and it wasn't the models.
but i'll tell you this: I wouldn't ask even one of them on a date. That is not hot to me.
WHY i am explaining myself i have no idea.
LoveComesFromWithin
07-31-2008, 10:02 PM
oh my gosh, lol
When I first saw the warning, "****WARNING...MAY BE ED TRIGGERING****", I was thinking ED stood for Erectile Dysfunction. Then I realized it meant Eating Disorder. Then I looked at the site, and realized that my first guess was accurate, too, at least for me.
I'd much prefer looking at a figure like Darcy Foxx's (not to single her out over everyone else--I know most of you in this business have slammin' bods--but I've seen full-length pictures of her, and I haven't of most of you).
So I won't be signing up for that site....
Be well,
Lynn
pheonixkarma
07-31-2008, 10:10 PM
Im sorry I find it disgusting that anyone finds that attractive or even worse wants to be like that. And sorry its not becaue im "bigger" that just offends me. Im 5 foot 6 inches and 115 pounds partly becaue I am built that way and partially because I eat alot of fruits and veggies hardly any white flour and I walk more then I drive. So its because I'm healthy! and guess what those girls are still unattactive the only one that is kind of pretty on there is the first brunette and thats because she has a prettier face then the rest of them and is the biggest.
I have been 105 pounds before and that was from actual starvation and it just fucking offends me that anyone would consider that elite!!! I know it is how our society is but it disgusts me that people are starving to death (and in those areas being bigger is "elite") and that people can be so fucking previleged to say ok now Im gonna make starving myself cool.
When I was that thin I could feel my boyfriends pelvic bone hit against mine, I didn't have ANY tits, my friends said my face looked like a skeleton it was NOT ATTRACTIVE!
Im not saying just being bigger is better I don't personally like they way I look when Im over 125 lbs, but thats because my body has always been thinner and my frame doesn't hold alot of weight attractively. I also have been bulemic at one point and I know EDs are not just about weight. its really about self hatred (im sure I should put it another way but thats the best way I can describe it hating yourself and trying to change it in any way possible)
being grossly over weight is not cute. being grossly underweight is not cute. Being healthy is HOT.
sorry for the rant
Pretty_Penny
07-31-2008, 11:05 PM
i aslo wanted to mention that, throughout this thread, people have been confusing disgust for the disorder with disgust for the models "as people".
i think most people in the thread who mentioned having issue with the site, have issue with the fact that some men find eating disorders to be sexually arousing. i feel like most of the "disgusted" people ITT just feel bad for the girls because they seem to have an ED.
none of the comments have seemed (to me) like attacks on the models themselves.
Sveta
07-31-2008, 11:42 PM
was going to reply, but nm. People can keep on judging, I guess. I've got to be done with this thread. :banghead:
ColetteCalahan
07-31-2008, 11:52 PM
I just want to make it blatantly freaking clear that these girls are not "small," "thin," "natural," or any of the words that denote a woman who has normal eating habits.
These girls are all pretty obviously trapped in some ED or another, and comfortable enough/proud enough to show it off. And no, I don't feel I should have to tack on, "and that's not an attack on the girls," because in a way I DO feel they are partially to blame. When you're 82 pounds and want to show off your 'achievement,' yet you KNOW it was these exact same images that helped shape your own ED and triggered your body dysmorphia in the beginning, that's when it becomes about responsibility.
When I was 89 pounds and resembled some of the girls here, I KNEW I looked like death and a part of me secretly REALLY liked it... (I was very, very sick) but I also knew I had a responsibility NOT to impose an image of myself on anyone and foster this malnourished, skeletal mess on anyone else. I didn't accept compliments when people told me I was "sooooo small, lucky!!!!!" and always hinted that maybe it wasn't so great being trapped in your own personal hell.
I have a problem with everything about that site, but more so that people on HERE are trying to say that these girls are on the spectrum of 'normal.' No, no, no, they're not. Starved, ED bodies look VERY different than naturally thin, model-type bodies.
AlexxaHex
08-01-2008, 12:46 AM
Well said, CC. I thought the site was disgusting, myself. It, and the models are obviously PROMOTING eating disorders. Anyone who wants to argue that with me must send all forms of complaint written in blood. Thanks.
Perry
08-01-2008, 12:52 AM
I've got to go with minority and say that, it think they're hot. Both of the girls I've had sex with could have been on this site. They didn't have an ED, it was just in their genes. Trust me, I watched girls like that scarf down pizza, Jimmy Johns, giant brownies and so on and so forth. It's not cool to come down on girls because they're a bit out side the "norm".
ColetteCalahan
08-01-2008, 12:54 AM
^ funny, that sounds like the same stuff I love to binge on. Did you follow them to the bathroom??? I maintain.... NOt- NoRmAl. You may like thin girls, fine, but these girls are not genetically predisposed to be 82 lbs. Gimme a break.
Dottie Rebel
08-01-2008, 02:14 AM
Omg I had to write to thank you for the lolicopter.
BUT! if you write to the people in charge of the website asking them for more representation from "ethnic minorities" I will love you forever. FOREVER: "WE NEED MORE STARVING AND NEAR-DEATH EASTERN INDIAN TITTIES ON DIS HERE WEBSITE. WHERE ARE MY STARVING BLACK LADIES AT??! I NEED TO SEE MOAR BROWN RIBS! WHERE IS JESSIE JACKSON WHEN YOU NEED HIM?!"
I am way, way late on this, but I just had to chime in. Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
I think I could just follow you around on lollerskates for the rest of my days and be perfectly happy.
CKXXX
08-01-2008, 09:41 AM
the only one that is kind of pretty on there is the first brunette and thats because she has a prettier face then the rest of them and is the biggest.
The sad thing is..that brunette was probably almost not accepted for not being thin enough. And they probably threaten her daily to lose weight or she'll be pulled. Soon you wont see her on there anymore, or you'll see her shrink before your eyes...mark my words.
This is NOT normal healthy thin. You can see it in their faces. I've known a lot of normally TINY girls and they do NOT look like that.
I'm not disgusted by the girls themselves...they obviously are sick, and having suffered from an ED myself (and at one time would have used this site as thinspiration) I know that they dont see themselves the way we do. They ALL prob think they still need to lose a few and are ELATED that they are thin enough to be chosen for this site.
I am disgusted with the people behind it who are promoting and encouraging this. Who are likely battering the girls into not gaining a single ounce(or maybe even telling them to lose a few more) to keep their little money making "fetish" site generating income. Wonder how they will feel when the girls start dying off. My guess is that they wont for a second take any responsibility for it and just replace them with more suffering sick girls.
Even the legit modeling industry wouldnt take them until they gained back to a acceptable weight.
loveandluxury
08-01-2008, 12:59 PM
I don't think the brunette with the black wrap around top thingy and the chick on the kitchen counter are "gross". They look good to me. I'm naturally small, I'm 5'6 and fluctuate between 110-115. I don't like being over 115, it just freaks me out :(
Okay, let the flaming and the "I feel sorry for you" comments begin!
ETA: I just ate an entire thing of potatoes.
UltraViolet
08-01-2008, 01:10 PM
I don't feel sorry for you at all. I just don't agree, and think it's a bit disturbing. (not you, the girls on the website, and the fact you think they're OK and normal)
AmberHoney
08-01-2008, 01:34 PM
Did anyone dig through more pages of the tour?
"Content Glamour Anorexic Girl"
"Content Glamour Anorexic Star"
That little redheaded girl seems to either be the creator or the 'original model' for the site.
There's facts...and there are opinions. The FACT is that these women are skeletal, extremely under weight, and show signs of starvation. Whether they have cholera, dysentery, a tape worm, end stage AIDS or cancer, or if they have an out of control eating disorder... the end result is the same.
ColetteCalahan
08-01-2008, 01:40 PM
^ oh for fack's sake. no one extremely ill (like cancer-ill) is going to be ballet-trained, contortionist-like, super-flexible, etc... these women are super-athletic uber-exercisers CONSISTENT WITH AN ED DIAGNOSIS.
look at the parent co's other web pages. it's half ballet/athlete related. it's no stretch of the imagination that these girls would develop hardcore ed's.
they don't have goddamn tapeworms. don't deny the obvious, please.
AmberHoney
08-01-2008, 01:45 PM
^ oh for fack's sake. no one extremely ill (like cancer-ill) is going to be ballet-trained, contortionist-like, super-flexible, etc... these women are super-athletic uber-exercisers CONSISTENT WITH AN ED DIAGNOSIS.
look at the parent co's other web pages. it's half ballet/athlete related. it's no stretch of the imagination that these girls would develop hardcore ed's.
they don't have goddamn tapeworms. don't deny the obvious, please.
You do realize that I was actually agreeing with you, right?
The girls look like former gymnasts with ED's.
All the examples are just because some people are so in denial about what starvation and impending death looks like...that they will try to justify their appearance.
I understand that you're sensitive due to your own history, and I have my own history as well...but I really think all that anger directed at me was kind of uncalled for...especially since we're basically saying the same thing in different ways. Sometimes my metaphors are all distant and foggy but they connect and they are there.
So... I'll just pretend this never happened, cuz I kind of like you and your posts.
Do you understand what I mean by that post, now?
ColetteCalahan
08-01-2008, 01:54 PM
I appreciate that you found where there was evidence of an actual ed... and yes, to an extent we were saying the same... no, i was not attacking you, but I do think you weakened your argument by making room for the possibility that the appearance could be caused by something other than an ED (and while yes, the LOOk could be achieved through illness, the poses/ways in which the models have achieved this is pretty safe to say most are former athletes of some sort). and i do see where we were in agreement... i'm sorry i over-reacted to the tapeworm comment.
also... no one has pointed out that a few of them have much wider cheeks (the contortionist, for one, and the girl at the bottom of the page with her fingers in her ribs- that one also has suspiciously reddish-looking fingers... yannow, just something i've caught onto over the years... at that weight an anorexic might have either a yellowish or purplish tinge to her limbs from cold) than they should, for those weights. swollen glands/"chipmunk cheeks" are a pretty well-known sign... they should have more sallow, drawn faces if their weight was either genetic or if they were simply starving themselves... disproportionately swollen cheeks are a pretty sure sign of purging.
AmberHoney
08-01-2008, 02:02 PM
I appreciate that you found where there was evidence of an actual ed... and yes, to an extent we were saying the same... no, i was not attacking you, but I do think you weakened your argument by making room for the possibility that the appearance could be caused by something other than an ED (and while yes, the LOOk could be achieved through illness, the poses/ways in which the models have achieved this is pretty safe to say most are former athletes of some sort). and i do see where we were in agreement... i'm sorry i over-reacted to the tapeworm comment.
also... no one has pointed out that a few of them have much wider cheeks (the contortionist, for one, and the girl at the bottom of the page with her fingers in her ribs- that one also has suspiciously reddish-looking fingers... yannow, just something i've caught onto over the years... at that weight an anorexic might have either a yellowish or purplish tinge to her limbs from cold) than they should, for those weights. swollen glands/"chipmunk cheeks" are a pretty well-known sign... they should have more sallow, drawn faces if their weight was either genetic or if they were simply starving themselves... disproportionately swollen cheeks are a pretty sure sign of purging.
*hug* it's okay.
I noticed their faces too...and their eyes. Looks like ana/mia in combination, because to get that skinny you have to starve, but to have the face, it's totally fluid retention, purging, constantly vomiting. If you look really close at the hands on the brunette chick further back in the pages, you can definitely see in her hands that she hits her teeth on them a lot.
I wonder if the tanning is to compensate for the skin color changes.
ColetteCalahan
08-01-2008, 02:10 PM
^+1000 to that. I was actually looking at ANAD to where I could report the site. Do you think Renfrew Foundation or Something Fishy or ANAD might try to get it down?? Seriously, that site should not be on the web. I'm all for free speech and freedom of expression, but there is not one thing about that site that promotes healthy ANYthing... it's pro-ana/pro-mia porn and i'd lobby my ass off to have it gone.
Pretty_Penny
08-01-2008, 02:15 PM
I don't think the brunette with the black wrap around top thingy and the chick on the kitchen counter are "gross". They look good to me. I'm naturally small, I'm 5'6 and fluctuate between 110-115. I don't like being over 115, it just freaks me out :(
Okay, let the flaming and the "I feel sorry for you" comments begin!
ETA: I just ate an entire thing of potatoes.
5ft6 110-115 is FAR from the girls on that site. i'm the same height and only 5-10 lbs heavier than you.
you'd have to be 5ft6 and maybe 90 to look like most of them.
did you see preview video?
Pretty_Penny
08-01-2008, 02:31 PM
and for those who don't want to dig around on the site.. here's some quotes
Irina in fursuit bends her long thin bonelegs and show you all details of her anorexic body
Content Glamour Anorexic Girl
Content Glamour Anorexic Star
all in the preview descriptions for sets with the redheaded girl on the front page/site owner.
and lots of the sets of her and other girls have typical anorexia-fetish stuff like showing girls with belts double-looped around their waists and stuff.
ColetteCalahan
08-01-2008, 02:42 PM
[email protected]
I just sent them a long letter. Hopefully they can get this site pulled.
:)
Samba
08-01-2008, 02:51 PM
How do they get sites pulled from the internet? I'm really curious.
CKXXX
08-01-2008, 03:11 PM
theres a ton of pro ed sites...how can they pull it unless they are breaking a law or something?(not saying I wouldnt like it gone..I just dont see how)
hell..there are even suicide support forums out there telling people how to kill themselves and telling them they should do it....just because its wrong,doesnt mean it'll get pulled.
Samba
08-01-2008, 03:14 PM
Yeah, I don't get it. Anyway, it makes me sad.
ColetteCalahan
08-01-2008, 03:14 PM
it may just apply to advertising... and it may just be national. this is the internet, and it's int'l..... but i also asked what my next step might be (like contacting google/yahoo, etc.) there really aren't a ton of ed sites anymore... most were pulled a while ago in the midst of a huge press hullaballoo. the russian host site is probably what makes it possible.
NewMoon
08-01-2008, 03:40 PM
http://www.nationaleatingdisorders.org/programs-events/media-watchdog.php
it may just apply to advertising... and it may just be national. this is the internet, and it's int'l..... but i also asked what my next step might be (like contacting google/yahoo, etc.) there really aren't a ton of ed sites anymore... most were pulled a while ago in the midst of a huge press hullaballoo. the russian host site is probably what makes it possible. Well the site is based in Germany, first of all. And contacting google and yahoo won't do much if anything at all. The way you get a site shut down is by contacting the host. BUT......
I actually support freedom of speech and freedom of expression. I don't like the site but I don't want a government to go shutting down any websites that are deemed to "promote an unhealthy lifestyle". Scary!!
NewMoon
08-01-2008, 03:43 PM
Good point, Joplin!!! If we don't take this site, the BBW sites will be next!! Scary indeed. I thank God my government is not so inclined.
ColetteCalahan
08-01-2008, 05:31 PM
Are you going to write a letter for any fat people fetish sites? They're obviously influencing people to become overweight and close to death.
... i don't think this is a good point at all, joplin & newmoon. while in THEory you may be looking at two ends of a spectrum, in reality it simply doesn't happen that way. people manifest fetish and disorder differently... at least the large percentage do.
i think it's ridiculous to argue this point. if the site got pulled, are we all gonna cry? no? then what's the big deal?? we have plenty of freedom of expression. if one thing gets censored that truly is unhealthy as opposed to the tons of othr things that shouldn't be, then boo-hoo.
Lysondra
08-01-2008, 05:36 PM
About 20 pages in they make a mockery of it by having a girl cover her ribs in BBQ sauce. :(
NewMoon
08-01-2008, 05:43 PM
CC - I'm paraphrasing "I don't agree with what you are saying, but I will defend to my death your right to say it." Same principle.
NewMoon
08-01-2008, 06:39 PM
Nicely said, Joplin! You're absolutely correct that if a government was convinced that site was "unhealthy" they could just as easily be convinced that stripperweb is "promoting an unhealthy lifestyle."