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Madcap
08-01-2008, 10:31 PM
Oh the last time I checked it's possible that a ballerina can get cancer....

Sure, but it's pretty friggin' unlikely a ballerina with cancer is going to be showing her tits on a pay-porn site. The ballerina with cancer has more important things to deal with.

I'm not interested in fighting, Joplin (so i'm not), and i don't know what is up with these girls, BUT i do know what is up with the whack job men paying for this site and i can damned well sit in judgment of them same way i can sit in judgment of a 40 year old guy ogling a 14 year old girl (happens ALL the time). It plain ain't right. Maybe some of these girls are just built that way, but no way in hell all of them are, and it's a good bet most of them have an ED. Maybe not a sure bet, but it's one I'd put my life savings on if a bookie would take it and if i was horrible enough to actually make a bet like that.

I'm with Collette. That site should go for several reasons, not just the health of the models themselves, but the girls it might trigger.

I shouldn't do this, but when i look at those pics i project thoughts on those girls, try to read their minds, and all i can think of is something along the liners of "See, i was RIGHT! I'm a model! All those people told me I was starving myself to death were all WRONG! I did the RIGHT thing!" Not the right thing for me to do but it's what i think when i look at that page.

ColetteCalahan
08-02-2008, 03:32 AM
If you don't care if the site gets pulled then why are you wasting your time trying to get it pulled.

What if if some random person decided they didn't care about strippers and decided to get this site pulled. After all people have plenty of freedom of expression. If one thing gets censored that is unhealthy, (which we can assume because all the strippers on this site are drug addicts and whores) as opposed to the ton of othr things that shouldn't be then boo-hoo.

We don't know anything about these people. I'm not saying these people aren't anorexic because I don't know if they are or aren't. While unlikely I'm not going to assume these people don't have a physical health issue. Oh the last time I checked it's possible that a ballerina can get cancer....

I'm half-assedly defending this because honestly I don't care if the site exists but your overinflated sense of entitlement is ridiculous.

My sense of entitlement?? O RLY???

I don't think I'm entitled to anything. I work my f*cking ass off for everything I have and don't expect anything to come to me easily. I have strong opinions on a few subjects with which I happen to have a lot of experience. And you read me wrong-I never said "I don't care if this site got pulled..." I DO care... hence my writing a letter.

I have no idea where you get off telling me I think I'm more deserving than anyone else. If I said "things should be this way because I think it so" than perhaps your point would be valid, but since the world doesn't operate like that and I've never once opined I'd like it to be that way, you have NO right to speak about some fake entitlement.

And NewMoon... Free speech is great... like I said... in theory. In reality there must be some limitations. If the Dean of an Ivy League school wanted to include in his graduation speech the fact that he personally believed every single minority student was there because of reverse discrimination against white students on campuses and use his address to argue the establishment of a Major in Eugenics, should he be allowed to do this??

No, of course not. It would be wrong, and horribly inappropriate for someone in his influential position to manipulate his Constitutional rights to spread hate. Theory is great, reality is different.

NewMoon
08-02-2008, 06:44 AM
And NewMoon... Free speech is great... like I said... in theory. In reality there must be some limitations. If the Dean of an Ivy League school wanted to include in his graduation speech the fact that he personally believed every single minority student was there because of reverse discrimination against white students on campuses and use his address to argue the establishment of a Major in Eugenics, should he be allowed to do this??

Maybe I'm not being clear enough. In my opinion, I would like to see this site gone and I would like to see the Dean prevented from saying such things. What concerns me is the means by which this is done. I would like to see this site shut down in a number of ways. Here are the top three ways I would like to see it shut down:

1) The people running the site are persuaded to shut it down.
2) People influencing the market by refusing to subscribe and they shut down from lack of business.
3) Persuading the host site to drop them.

What I object to is specifically the government shutting down such sites for reasons outlined in my previous post.

ColetteCalahan
08-02-2008, 07:04 AM
^ ah. that makes MUCh more sense... and yes, I did not quite understand you were drawing a line between state censorship and public reaction. I agree with this... that way bad ideas will (hopefully) be squelched by reason and public debate will continue to yield dialogue and innovation/

Sveta
08-02-2008, 10:37 AM
I know this wasn't the OP's purpose, and probably no one stopped to think of this, but... this thread just gave anyone on here that has any ED tendencies another page full of 'thinspiration'.

CKXXX
08-02-2008, 10:50 AM
I know this wasn't the OP's purpose, and probably no one stopped to think of this, but... this thread just gave anyone on here that has any ED tendencies another page full of 'thinspiration'.
yeah no kidding..thats why I put up the warning in the first post

Perry
08-02-2008, 11:07 AM
^ funny, that sounds like the same stuff I love to binge on. Did you follow them to the bathroom??? I maintain.... NOt- NoRmAl. You may like thin girls, fine, but these girls are not genetically predisposed to be 82 lbs. Gimme a break.

Yea, I did follow them to the bathroom, actually. My club didn't have a door in front of the toilette in the locker room. IMO you're taking this way too personal.

ColetteCalahan
08-02-2008, 03:35 PM
Yea, I did follow them to the bathroom, actually. My club didn't have a door in front of the toilette in the locker room. IMO you're taking this way too personal. *facetious there* i don't think i'm taking this too personally. i was simply trying to point out that there is are both girls with high metabolisms and bulimics who eat the same stuff (but perhaps 5x more) and do so under cover- and I didn't agree with the fact that these bodies were 'normal' by any medical or cultural standard. I stick by this. It's hard to know when you're looking at a bulimic, that's all. Anorexia is "easier" to spot, as long as it's in more developed stages.


I know this wasn't the OP's purpose, and probably no one stopped to think of this, but... this thread just gave anyone on here that has any ED tendencies another page full of 'thinspiration'.

if anything i think the way this discussion was contextualized (along with cam's warning) has shed a lot of light on the perception/reaction to the site. it's a pertinent issue, and framing it in a dialogue that sheds light on many factors in the argument is helpful to everyone.

Andygirl
08-02-2008, 11:37 PM
And NewMoon... Free speech is great... like I said... in theory. In reality there must be some limitations. If the Dean of an Ivy League school wanted to include in his graduation speech the fact that he personally believed every single minority student was there because of reverse discrimination against white students on campuses and use his address to argue the establishment of a Major in Eugenics, should he be allowed to do this??

I'd defend his right to say it, but I'd also defend the right of the school to put him on administrative leave or to fire him for the incident. IMO, free speech is great in more than just theory........either you believe in it or you don't.

I believe the KKK should have the right to march down the middle of a city, or that Fred Phelps and his band of fucktards should have right to protest funerals, etc. I disagree wholeheartedly with what those groups stand for, but I would absolutely die to keep the right for any of us to say whatever we want to say. I am 100% in favor of free speech in every situation that you can think of.

Censorship is a very slippery slope. If you start with one website that you disagree with, where does it end? Who makes the decisions about what stays and what goes? That is WHY we have the right to free speech, so that NO ONE can take it away from us.

Think about what's going on in China right now. They've blocked half the fucking internet so that their people can't read about human rights and news around the world. The journalists at the fucking Olympics are having to hack into systems just so they can research and do what they are hired to do. It is censorship at its ugliest, IMO. And there's no way I could ever stand up for anything like that.

Perry
08-03-2008, 12:40 AM
^^ I totally agree.

NewMoon
08-03-2008, 12:43 AM
Nicely said, Andygirl!

confrontingmydemons
08-03-2008, 07:55 AM
That scared the Hell outta me! I feel bad for those gals..

CKXXX
08-03-2008, 08:34 AM
I believe in free speech too....but I do think there should be SOME limits. I think Fred Phelps and company should be able to protest...but not AT funerals. They can protest in front of the White House or on their website..say whatever you want. But if they showed up at a funeral for someone I loved...I'd shoot to kill.

I think that protesting and intefrering with other peoples lives are two different things. I believe pro-life people should be able to protest too...but they shouldnt be able to scream at or block entrances of people going into clinics.

The KKK should be able to march. And we have the right to boo them.

NewMoon
08-03-2008, 09:31 AM
I believe in free speech too....but I do think there should be SOME limits. I think Fred Phelps and company should be able to protest...but not AT funerals. They can protest in front of the White House or on their website..say whatever you want. But if they showed up at a funeral for someone I loved...I'd shoot to kill.

I think that protesting and intefrering with other peoples lives are two different things. I believe pro-life people should be able to protest too...but they shouldnt be able to scream at or block entrances of people going into clinics.

The KKK should be able to march. And we have the right to boo them.
Nice examples! I agree with you. One of the main reasons I support no government interference with the skinny site is that everyone involved is consenting adults: the models, the administrators, and the people who view and join the site. If they were forcing these pictures down our throats, I might have a problem with it.

Another thing about freedom of speech is that limiting location is not nullifying your freedom of speech. For example, if I tell someone that they can't say racist things in my home that is my right and not an invasion of their right to freedom of speech. Why? Because I'm not restricting what they say, just saying they can't say it in my home. Now if the government said you can't ever say anything racist ever, even privately, then I would have a huge problem with it.

Andygirl
08-03-2008, 12:06 PM
I think that protesting and intefrering with other peoples lives are two different things. I believe pro-life people should be able to protest too...but they shouldnt be able to scream at or block entrances of people going into clinics.

I definitely think there is a difference between people protesting in a public place and trying to do it on private property. When it is private property, the owners should be able to keep people out of it. IMO, that's not even a free speech issue, it's just a basic issue of boundaries.

Lexi
08-03-2008, 03:52 PM
.......

AmberHoney
08-03-2008, 03:59 PM
Comparing BBW sites to this type of site is kinda invalid. Now comparing the really...really huge sites like http://www.queenraqui.com/home.htm to this is valid.

You can be 100lbs overweight and be relatively healthy (old age, regular blood pressure, no diabetes, no heart disease) if you take every other precaution in the world like walking 20 minutes a day and not eating high amounts of saturated fat and not smoking and not eating a bunch of sugar... just being fat from eating too much not a disgusting "I eat a whole pizza and 3 chocolate cakes a day" fat... but you can't be 100lbs underweight... period.

Seriously. Comparing a site like this to a site like... XL GIRLS or Scores Voluptuous... is totally REACHING far out with a social stigmata stick. Now, if you're comparing it to 800lbsOfAss.com or something...then yeah.

Athenathefabulous
10-12-2010, 11:51 PM
Ok im reviving this. I was doing a search and stumbled across this thread and clicked on the link. ugh, disturbing :(. ive seen pro- ana sites before, but this is really brutal...

4everresolutions
10-12-2010, 11:59 PM
Very sad.

I think the worst part is knowing damn right well that other women (not through SW, just other women in general) really ARE using this as thinspiration when a lot of these pictures are probably photoshopped (even though I'm sure the models are ridiculously skinny in the first place).

This body type is just not realistic OR maintainable, yet it's what a lot of women strive to be.

The hunger headaches from keeping a body like that must be insane....I get nauseous thinking about it.

KS_Stevia
10-14-2010, 07:13 AM
I will never understand.

Me neither. Its absolutely horrific. Even seeing morbidly obese women in modeling pics doesn't gross me out as much.

xGigi
10-14-2010, 07:23 AM
that's terrible :[

AngelKing
10-14-2010, 07:48 AM
Think of the craziest most bizarre shit ever, and there is going to be some wierd fuck out there jerking off to it on the internet.

tampadancer
10-14-2010, 04:53 PM
oh my god.

nicole84
10-14-2010, 07:00 PM
I think that site is disgusting.

yes, there are thin "normal" people...hell, im 5'4" 108lbs 34-24-34.5 and yes i even have an ass and trust me, i dont diet, lol.

However, people have thought i had an eating disorder. i always told them that if they thought that, then they had never seen someone who actually had one

i feel bad for the women on there and hope they all get the help they need. some of them have such pretty faces, but then you look lower and its just so sad.