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keira0304
08-18-2008, 04:28 PM
Hobbyist review of CD. You may have to sign in to see it . Apparently they no longer offer VIPs, just all dances are $35 -- and the poster claims they're pretty consistently dirty and all girls will touch on you.
http://tnaboard.com/viewtopic.php?id=33986

I actually read something similar in a Portland LJ -- someone was talking about how CD is great because the 'dancer/customer' boundary is consistently ignored.

Well, I guess it's nice that that club has a reputation.

can you copy/paste that?

anomar
08-18-2008, 04:47 PM
^^^Copy/pasted

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So, I went down for my third visit to Casa Diablo in NW Portland (industrial area near Montgomery Park) a few nights ago. Thought I would write a review, because I had a nice time and I think it has some things to recommend it. Check out their site on myspace for directions, dancer schedules, etc... Don't want him to not have enough business to stay open, so show your support if you like it too!

I'll try and make this to the point... but I have some info to impart ... I like strip clubs, so if I am too descriptive I apologize.

Things I liked:
* No cover on a Friday night plus I like location. I know a lot of people and very few of them do I want to discuss strip clubs with . I know they won't be out here! $2 Coronas and $1 PBR's every night.
* It was slow, but not so slow that there was NO one else at the rack. It can be weird to be the only guy at the rack.
* Casa D hasn't been all that popular yet so there are always empty tables even on a Fri the few times I've been there. It was one of the reasons I picked it. I wasn't in the mood for a Friday night at someplace like the Acrop that would be packed to the rafters.
* CD is NON smoking (it does have a nice covered outdoor smoking patio)
* Nice mix of girls. I got there around 11 and there were 5 girls working. One "6" kinda chunky mexican girl who made up for her looks with GREAT energy, an "8" little hispanic gal with terrific hair and a pierced clit that she had "wave" at me, A "8" gal out of Vegas, lean and tan who did a good show, a "8" caucasian gal who had a little junk in the trunk, etc.., but that also meant she had great breasts - she also had attitude and a unique and artistic look (nice tats and interesting hair), and a "7" girl with reddish brown hair who seemed cool.
* I go to a lot of strip clubs - CD is the only club where the girls have consistently - nearly EVERY girl on every dance - touched me while I am at the rack. They lean against me, put their nose to mine, or if it is a few songs in and they like you - sit in my lap and writhe around. Again this is at the rack! Now I get this from time to time at other places - especially Acrop (especially from my favorites at Acrop like Jenna), but not consistently like here. One time I came here with some friends and the girls did the same for them. The girls here are just a little dirtier at the rack than at a lot of places.
* The place is big, there is free pool, nice bartender, etc..., music I actually liked was being played (I tend to lean a little more towards electronic/dance, etc..)

A word about their private dances - they have an area called the Devil's Den filled with couches. Once upon a time they had a menu of things you could buy back there - 20 for a table, 40 for a couch, etc.. Those menus have disappeared and now there is just $35/per song couch dance that is offered up front - I didn't ask about anything else, so I don't know if the more expensive options are still around. Now, at the Acrop for example, when I pay my $20 I usually get a good lap dance in the private area with some contact - hips on my hips, maybe face, maybe hair, but no grinding or anything like that usually - this is for the $20 level here... Casa's dances work like this - $35, one song and she is naked (or mostly so) and the touching is extensive. Breasts rubbed across face repeatedly. Her lips brushing mine, her booty on my lap and pushing and grinding, kneeled down and forearm and hips slid up and between my legs with pressure a few times (it wasn't a HJ or anything she wasn't trying to make me blow, but still lots of contact). At beginning of dance she put her pussy 3" from face and fingered her self for a few seconds! Frankly, she was making sure I understood why they wanted the extra 15 bucks and they are giving a bit more to get it. Now I know this kind of thing is available on couches at the Dolphin, etc - but the girl is clothed right? And at places like Jiggles, you get the right girl on the right night and this can happen for a standard $20 fee. But it is nice to know it is available right now with no wondering at least one place in town if you don't mind the bucks.
I NEVER get a hard on during a regular lap dance. It doesn't mean i'm not having a good time, I just don't... i enjoy the hell out of them don't get me wrong... I got one last night man and it was great. I even told her that was the first time a lap dance had given me one and she seemed legitimately pleased with that info. Said she feels like she's failed if we don't get one. Girl I saw calls herself Harlow and is the girl i mention above with the artistic look. She has a poem tattooed down one side of her body.

Things I don't like:
* yeah... its a vegan strip club (only one in the world apparently!) and I'm not a vegan. I've never tried any of the food here, but the $3 burger is probably OK even if it is veggie meat, but it isn't going to be the Acrop's $3 burger.
* Bar is a little understocked = I asked for a cocktail once and they were out of Vermouth.. weird. But the Bartendar handled it really well
* On, say a Wed night - it can be really slow and if you are the only one at the rack, I don't know about you, but I feel pressure from the girl to stick and to pay, and I KNOW I'm going to get stalked for privates. But in general its a nice problem to have, because she is focusing all her attention on you.
* Very Long rack with two poles on it. For example - me and three guys are sitting at one end with no one else at the rack at all, and these dick heads go and sit at the FAR end. Dudes, songs are only 4-6 minutes long, if she is spending 20 seconds having to travel back and forth from one long end of the rack to the other she is not paying attention to us during that time. Sit a chair or two over and then we all benefit from each other's dollars - seriously share the dancers. Is anyone else annoyed by this? Sometimes if it is actually busy, I've seen them have two girls on that rack at a time.

Anyway, didn't smell like smoke when I left, spent $2 on a Corona, had a hot private dance, girls at the rack were laying on me for only $1...
I liked it there, I'll go back.

Elvia
08-18-2008, 08:29 PM
^^^ Oh dear God. So glad to be out of there.

If it's true...man, it's gotten worse. Fingering themselves for standard couch dance price?

Ugh.

trishaxxxo
10-11-2009, 02:14 AM
OK so I work at a club near casa diablo, not naming names, and tonite I went down there to check it out.

It has been dead at my club recently and the last night i worked some guys came in, layed ONE DOLLAR per song down on the rack between TWO of them, then bitched that i didnt take my panties off. When I asked them if they wanted a dance, saying i would get nude in the back, they bitched that at casa diablo girls would get off the stage and grind on them for $1 "basically a lap dance", when I wanted $20. then they left for CD

I went down there tonite and FUCKING GOD. I have NEVER seen such things in a club, it was packed and hardly any money on the stage. Girls on solo sets would get offstage and grind on each customer for $1, dude was not exaggerating.

Then the two girl show started- these girls were licking each others pussies, fingering each other on stage, then got on some guys lap and humped each other while grinding on him- he had put $3 on the stage.

I sat at the rack and tipped but left after 30 mins, I just felt sick. Those girls pretty much had sex on stage for 20 minutes and there could NOT have been more than $30 on that rack. that's $15 each. I make more than that SOLO without grinding on anyone. I don't know

I'm just upset that this is the way things are headed and ALSO don't think what is happening at CD is legal!!! how are they getting away with this? who can I complain to? I googled "oregon strip club law" and can't find anything about the 6 inch rule etc.

:O:(

Elvia
10-11-2009, 12:33 PM
OMG. It just keeps...getting...worse!

And it's really a shame to because this place had a lot of potential. When it opened up it got a ridiculous amount of coverage just for being the worlds first vegan strip club. I worked there the first couple months and it was so easy to make money. Good stage tips for a normal stage set, couch dances (one of the few places in town that sells em) the longshoremen were coming in every other day and making it rain on stage. You didn't even have to hustle, people were asking for dances as soon as you hit the floor.

Then Johnny immediately drove it into the ground!

He started encouraging the worst clientelle by offering ridiculous freebies. Free entry+free pool+free food+free beverages = cheapskate magnet. It chased off the good clientelle and that was all that was left.

Then he started letting the dirty girls get away with taking things further and further. Which chased off the clean dancers.

Not to mention the "vegan food" is the most disgusting, dead, from-a-can vegan food you can imagine.

Last I heard he had started getting scummy with the underage (18-20) dancers (his favorite type to hire) He started telling them they owed bogus fees and telling them they could pay it off in trade to him in the dance area.

He's a creep, a lunatic, an idiot, and a total piece of shit.

Elvia
10-11-2009, 12:36 PM
unfortunately, I believe the 6 inch rule is dead. There was a lawsuit and as a result the OLCC no longer regulates dancers. It was never a law, it was a OLCC violation. Lap dances are now legal in portland, though most clubs have not changed their practices. Prostitution laws are still in effect of course, but everyone knows Casa ignores those as well.

I can't warn dancers to stay away from this place strongly enough.

daniella_maria
10-11-2009, 03:29 PM
I worked in l.a. For four years, and this club sounds much worse than any club I worked at in l.a.

Athenathefabulous
10-11-2009, 04:06 PM
i worked at one place where customers would approach the stage and the norm was for the girl to get in front of him doggy style and then grind his dick till he dropped the dollar. the customers expected this and walked to the stage sometimes with hte dollar behind their back until they felt satisfied... it reminded me of people approachin their dogs with treats behind their backs or something. creepy. When i didnt do this when customers approached hte stage, i would get looks of dissapointement, and i even got a few comments from customers when i didnt do it. I tried explaining to the girls that the reason guys were not buying hte 20$ dances was probably because they were giving all this for a $... they should give the equivalent of 1/20th of a lapdance... but they looked at me blankly and didnt seem to care. ech. most girls were young... maybe in time they will realize how they are selling themselves short.

Casa diablo sounds awful! Ech! gross! Girls fingering themselves on stage? Gross. I have occasionally seen a girl be raunchy enough to let a customer stick a dollar up her coochie (one of many reasons why i do not want dollars near my coochie or mouth) but ive never been to the club where that was the norm. that makes me sad :(.

Elvia
10-11-2009, 04:15 PM
I knew a girl who used to do the two girl show at CD. I never watched what happened, but I know back then she made pretty good money at it (like around $100 a set). If it's gone downhill that much, that is truly sad. Management needs to wake up. Johnny is so concerned about giving guys the most they can get for the least in return, and it's turned it into a skanky (and not even profitable) club. It's a shame too. Being one of the only clubs in the city that offers real lap dances, they could make a killing if everyone wasn't giving so much away on stage for little or nothing. Why are guys going to pay $35 for a lap dance when they can grope girls on stage, or have someone jump into their lap and start riding them, for a dollar or less?

It's hilarious that before it opened Johnny was on this site constantly saying it was going to be the "best club in town." Now it's widely regarded as the worst. Whenever people ask me where I've worked and I mention CD, they crinkle their nose and say "isn't that a whorehouse?"

trishaxxxo
10-11-2009, 06:21 PM
I heard the six inch rule was no longer being regulated but I just can't believe what goes on in there is legal and I wish I knew what public office/official to contact with questions about what exactly the laws are now in oregon- it seems like such a grey area and I keep hearing diff things from dancers, managers, and club owners.

The two girl show one of them at least put on a dental dam but the other did not, there was def cunnilingus both ways, at one point in a customers lap, a lot of hard humping, and finger penetration. Maybe those girls make big money some shows, but they seemed pretty wasted and crazy for how much money i saw up there. seriously at least 50 people in the room watching and $40 on the rack at most.

and RE: not selling lapdances b/c they give so much away at the rack- I danced at a diff club with a few girls from casa, this was around 2 months ago, and they both told me they usually make $100-200 a shift. which is ok for portland but I still make that much/MORE without doing what they do....both of them behaved pretty scandalously at the club we danced at together and got a lot of warnings from the bouncers for getting wild on stage

Christyismyalias
10-11-2009, 07:15 PM
It is SO frustrating. And very common. It's also getting worse and worse...
On one hand, I try to always work hard for my money. I hate the girls that just take the money and turn away.. When guys tip I try to get them a good show (NoT a slutty show, but a show). But there is definitely a difference between spreading your legs and touching your vag, and giving a coy dance for a tip. Girls definitely do WAY too much for WAY too little. And they don't even realize they are making it harder on themselves and everyone else!
I hate when I follow the girls who do all sorts of nasty shit on stage. I am a stage girl, I love performing for the crowd. But when I get up there and people are telling me to "work for it" and "spread that shit" and all this talking to me however they please and being rude... I get so frustrated b/c I do work hard.. but I will not be nasty for them--They don't deserve it!! It's a shame but that's the business..
My whole thing is- We have the power here! We are in charge here. But these girls are letting the men have the power. By giving them what they want and more, they are winning. If girls would just chill out, work SMARTER, and quit being such whore's, it would be better for us all.