View Full Version : Wish lists in siggys
Jenny
08-22-2008, 08:19 PM
There are GOOD things that can come of gift giving and I don't see why people can't grasp that.I don't see that as being a problem. I mean, I don't think anyone is saying "Nobody is made happy by the presence of wishlists". I think the argument is that it has contributed to an environment of open shilling, panhandling, begging and hustling that really doesn't belong here.
At one time, yes, it was mere diversion. Then, due to the ill judgment of quite a few members (as in: not just one) here it became a bigger problem, absorbing everything in its path. Members became bolder; requests became balder - and it just starts getting a little bit nauseating and starts detracting from the real purpose of stripperweb - which is not, after all, to get stuff.
Sophia_Ashley
08-22-2008, 08:46 PM
^ Gotcha and I agree.
RoseLeigh
08-23-2008, 12:00 AM
Eh, I just like reading people's to see what kind if stuff they read/want/etc. I buy stuff off (non-SW) friend's wishlists for birthdays and stuff. I have my own because otherwise my fam would either forget or buy me socks. And I just find it kind of humorous.
iambonbon05
08-23-2008, 12:11 AM
I never noticed them, and I'm on here quite a bit.
MsQwerty
08-23-2008, 12:31 AM
I'm really not into the whole "come to stripperweb and beg for stuff" trend. It seems undignified and kind of counter to the absolutely true mandate that we keep hammering here that stripperweb is a support site for dancers and customers are guests.
Same - I feel like Ive stepped into charityweb.com lately.
NinaDaisy
08-23-2008, 12:37 AM
I choose to not have a wishlist.
And people can choose to not buy for those who have them.
My wishlist requests likely wouldn't appeal to the typical PL on here anyway. As in "please donate to my favorite charity". And I don't mean the "buy NinaDaisy some Louboutins" fund either.
But to each their own. I've always said it never hurts to ask. Some folks just have a different way of doing it.
Cherry Valence
08-23-2008, 12:40 AM
And to think. What we know is just the tip of the iceberg.
NinaDaisy
08-23-2008, 12:42 AM
And to think. What we know is just the tip of the iceberg.
True.
It's been said the first step to real wisdom is admitting you know nothing. Therefore, since I don't think I know much, I must be rather wise.
On the other hand, is it our business anyway?
doc-catfish
08-23-2008, 05:19 AM
Some of you have wishlists in your sigs? I wouldn't know. I turned the signature feature off more than a year ago because I got sick of seeing posts with a pointless 4" signature attached.
Hell, I don't even know what mine says anymore.
i.breathe.in
08-23-2008, 06:29 AM
Some of you have wishlists in your sigs? I wouldn't know. I turned the signature feature off more than a year ago because I got sick of seeing posts with a pointless 4" signature attached.
Hell, I don't even know what mine says anymore.
exactly you can hide them people.
loveandluxury
08-23-2008, 06:45 AM
I don't have a problem with the wishlists.. I had one for about 12 hours the other day but I didn't do the link right so I just took it off. I'm not going to put it back up because meh.. I don't care about it that much. If you don't want to see them, then don't click or turn siggys off.
I think they can be nice when we're doing gift exchanges or for birthdays etc. I didn't know there would be so much controversy when I started this thread.
pookie
08-23-2008, 06:48 AM
^^^ i think for gift exchanges and b-days is a good reason to have one
jasmine
08-23-2008, 06:55 AM
I don't see that as being a problem. I mean, I don't think anyone is saying "Nobody is made happy by the presence of wishlists". I think the argument is that it has contributed to an environment of open shilling, panhandling, begging and hustling that really doesn't belong here.
At one time, yes, it was mere diversion. Then, due to the ill judgment of quite a few members (as in: not just one) here it became a bigger problem, absorbing everything in its path. Members became bolder; requests became balder - and it just starts getting a little bit nauseating and starts detracting from the real purpose of stripperweb - which is not, after all, to get stuff.
Oh yeah! I vividly remember a certain shoe request and the entire response drama that lowered both members involved to the point I could barely contain the juvenile urge to roll my eyes every time I saw a post from either member for months.
The wishlists around gift exchange time and the cries for help don't bother me, but "Help, I've fallen and I can't get up!" seems to quickly morph into "Help, I've fallen and I need more Lush!"
TarsTone
08-23-2008, 07:38 AM
I never thought I'd agree with Jenny, but I guess there is a first time for everything.
Yeah, yeah....Turn off the siggies if you don't like them and all that, but this thread is about opinions on the subject and here's mine.
When I was in college, one of my frat brothers was about to get evicted from his studio apartment. The guy worked hard but was going through rough times. I and a couple of other brothers collected a few bucks from each member and helped bail him out. But if the same guy had asked me to buy him some cool Lakers jacket he was eyeing, I would have told him to get lost.
Putting a wishlist in your signature cannot be compared to hustling at the club. At the club, you are offering a service (entertainment) in exchange for the money received. Here, you're just asking people on the web to buy you shoes and lush! And no, kissing ass does not count as a "service". This is not hustling, it is begging. If you're comfortable with it, knock yourself out. But I also have a right to think you need some dignity.
i.breathe.in
08-23-2008, 09:59 AM
Putting a wishlist in your signature cannot be compared to hustling at the club. At the club, you are offering a service (entertainment) in exchange for the money received. Here, you're just asking people on the web to buy you shoes and lush! And no, kissing ass does not count as a "service". This is not hustling, it is begging. If you're comfortable with it, knock yourself out. But I also have a right to think you need some dignity.
its begging? well then most people i know is a begger they have them on myspace facebook blogger etc. its not begging because no one is asking its just there.
when did it become bad to be able to give people gifts. i enjoy giving people gifts.
jasmine
08-23-2008, 10:14 AM
its begging? well then most people i know is a begger they have them on myspace facebook blogger etc. its not begging because no one is asking its just there.
when did it become bad to be able to give people gifts. i enjoy giving people gifts.
Don't you think they are pathetic when they have those on myspace and such though? My cousins kids are the only people I know of who do that and they are 9 and 11. If any of my adult friends did....Well, it would definitely change how I view them and lower my respect.
Now, I'm gonna have to go check in the next few days... Damn it! I hate myspace and all that shit.
Pretty_Penny
08-23-2008, 10:15 AM
i don't have one linked here. i -have- one, but it's mostly just a reminder for me/motivation for things i need to save up for. i don't have a problem with anyone else having one or with people accepting help from other members. i never have and have never asked (aside from asking for advice). but i -would- ask for/accept an offer for financial help if i absolutely 100% had no other options.
i just think those cases are rare, but it's not my place to judge the validity of someone's needs.
Pretty_Penny
08-23-2008, 10:17 AM
oh i forgot... i -do- use my elfster one on here for gift exchanges, but i think that's different. obviously.
i.breathe.in
08-23-2008, 10:38 AM
wow im amazed so many people think wishlists are pathetic....very interesting to put it nicely.
CKXXX
08-23-2008, 11:00 AM
Don't you think they are pathetic when they have those on myspace and such though? My cousins kids are the only people I know of who do that and they are 9 and 11. If any of my adult friends did....Well, it would definitely change how I view them and lower my respect.
Now, I'm gonna have to go check in the next few days... Damn it! I hate myspace and all that shit.
I put one on my work myspace because fans would ask me what I wanted for my b-day and such..never got anything off it(yet!LOL) but figured WTF. If someone wants to buy me something I like I'm certainly not going to stop them!
I dont see how its a problem...people like to know what others want and need for gift exchanges, b-days,etc...why should anyone have an issue with it unless they start asking for stuff? If its just sitting there in case anyone wants to look...whats the big deal?
Jenny
08-23-2008, 11:23 AM
I put one on my work myspace because fans would ask me what I wanted for my b-day and such..never got anything off it(yet!LOL) but figured WTF. If someone wants to buy me something I like I'm certainly not going to stop them!
I dont see how its a problem...people like to know what others want and need for gift exchanges, b-days,etc...why should anyone have an issue with it unless they start asking for stuff? If its just sitting there in case anyone wants to look...whats the big deal?
If I had a little "jenny the stripper" myspace fansite, then yes a wishlist would be appropriate there. This site is not really meant to be a stripper fan site or for that matter a marketing site; and when girls treat it that way, it can hardly be surprising when we wind up in fights with the guys about treating it that way too, you know? I would hesitate to call it "pathetic"; but I do think there is something a little undignified about saying this is our professional support site, but hey boys, I'm sexy, please buy me presents/buy my underwear/pay my rent. A little different from a fansite that is designed for "hey boys I'm sexy come to my club and go on ahead and buy me something frilly." And... geesh, I mean, if any segment of this website was capable of doing this without unpleasant spectacle well, it would never have been an issue in the first place, you know?
And as for gift exchanges being so lovely - leaving aside all the people who just flaked, and the unpleasantness that ensued - there have been cases of severely hurt feelings because some people had the grace and good judgment to say either publicly or privately "Your gift just sucked; I got ripped off by your crappy gift." It's not all good feelings. Maybe it's just too many people too used to seeing life as a constant hustle, but it is not really a sustainable system here.
Andygirl
08-23-2008, 11:28 AM
I honestly never noticed people having wishlists in their sig lines until this thread. Yeah, I do think some of the gift exchange, excessive favor stuff is ridiculous, but I don't see a problem with people putting a simple link in their signature. The other begging on this site is waaay more obvious.
britt244
08-23-2008, 11:29 AM
^ :yes: i rarely even notice people's wishlists if they have them, and so what? same as i dont click on a blog in someone's sig if i don't want to read it. or their amazon/etsy/whatever store, or anything else. but some of the other blatent mentions of gift giving, or asking, or whatever.. that irritates me. but i've said that already.
Perry
08-23-2008, 06:50 PM
I've personally never felt inclined to take SW to my home address in the form of a gift. Anyone who does is a good deal more trusting of the interweb than I. But, yeah, I can't even leave my pics up for more than a few days without getting nervouse. I guess I just like my privacy.
I don't notice gift sig's, or any sigs, unless they're particularly captivating or odd. The odd ones do make me think.